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Message ID: 23912
Date: Wed Feb 21 19:35:27 GMT 2001
Author: Adam Wasserman
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message


I honestly don't know what I advocate, but here's what I think...
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Scenario A
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High level bards should be forced to choose between melee or songs more
often. Then Verant could scale our melee properly without having to worry
about our song effects and vice versa.

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Scenario B
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Make bard haste stack like all of our other songs do. Scale the haste back
to be appropriate. 5% is way too low for stacking haste, particularly if we
lose our ability to melee at the same time. I'm easily doing more damage
swinging than increasing the other tanks.

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Scenario C
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Fix the resist soft caps.

Draelon


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Sue [mailto:jsue@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:46 PM
To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message


At 02:04 PM 2/21/01 -0500, you wrote:
>You should read Thott's article on power curves. (www.afterlifeguild.org)
It
>demonstrates that post 50, all classes increase in power exponentially
>except for bards. The reason that all other classes scale that way is
>because of the way the mobs increase in power post 50. Bards however
>progress in power linearly. An argument can be made that we give some power
>for our wealth of abilities, but if you look at the very highest levels, we
>lose all of those additional abilities. Fear caps at 51, Charm caps at 53
>and Mez caps at 55. That means that a level 60 bard fighting level 55+ mobs
>is a liability to the party instead of an asset. We can no longer crowd
>control, our haste and slow is vastly inferior to enchanters and shamen,
our
>melee is pathetic (to say the least). Our only role at that point is mana
>battery.

the problem that people don't realize is that the bard pretty much increases
the
effectivity of other people in his/her party. if our increases also went
exponentially
and they affected the other class's exponential curves exponentially, you
don't see
this as being a problem?


>Bards used to be useful in large raids for their ability to provide
resists,
>but given the influx of uber gear it is not difficult to obtain unbuffed
>resists in the 150s in multiple areas. Add to that the soft cap on resists
>and the fact that even with maxed resists many, many spells land anyway and
>bards have little to no use in a raid. We can't provide our primary ability
>(resists) and we don't do damage, so why bring us along?

which is why i was advocating making resists scale to 255 instead of 175.
any other
change would severely overbalance us in all other aspects of the game.


>Draelon Stormsong



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