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Message ID: 24016
Date: Mon Feb 26 22:40:51 GMT 2001
Author: Kenneth E. Bachman
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Re: Bard% was (Patch message)


The level 24 song is ultravision/see invis. This song was relatively but not entirely useless until
Verant modified level 19 to be not just invis but invis/see invis. At which point, they never bothered to
address the fact that this made level 24 pointless. So looking at the weakness of 24 to justify the
weakness of DDD isn't a good comparison. Particularly since Verant just explicitly modified DDD to make
it "good" in their way of thinking.

Also, Verant has never in any way indicated that DDD was tuned with PvP in mind. In general, their
approach is to make songs/spells work differently on blue and red servers in order to balance for PvP. In
the absence of any other information, I am forced to assume that they believe that this song is balanced
for blue server play. I couldn't disagree with them more.

Kenross Cantoforjado, 57 songs, Innoruuk



Jeffrey Sue wrote:

> well, for all the wood elf and half elf bards or bards with mask of deception or
> guise of the deceiver, they don't get a song at level 24 then (ultravision song).
> how about if we compare the ratio of human bards with no mask to the total
> number of bards with the ratio of pvp players to non pvp players?