Okay - I've been following this thread for a couple days and I'm pretty
confused as to what Whee is really arguing about. It mostly seems to be
rhetorical debate; or perhaps the comment that people are exaggerating too
much. Keep in mind that - like analogies exaggerating the opposite of what
you are arguing is also a rhetorical device.

I don't mean this as a flame to Whee, (by singling him out); but the
argument (if I'm not following it correctly I apologize in advance) seems to
be that the thread is Whee one side and everyone else (who participating in
the thread) on the other.

1) DDD - are you saying that this IS a useful song? That 99 pct of the
Bards are wrong - that it is VERY useful; or simply that it is very slightly
useful and we are "ridiculously exaggerating" by saying something is
"completely" useless instead of "very marginally" useless. Not MUCH of an
exaggeration there if you ask me.

2) The PvP thing was argued a bit - but someone pointed out how Verant has
made it very clear they claim they are specifically tuning this song to
balance bards across the board. There has been no indication that this is a
PVP. While it could be a "stealth component" of the tuning a) I doubt it
and b) it's not taking the issue at face value especially considering the
whole "Class Balance" threads

3) Bards are over powered. You haven't really spent much time arguing
that - and I'm not quite clear on your argument for that. Perhaps it is
due to soloing ability. I despise soloing and never do it. Personally - if
you were to judge EQ as a solo game; it is VERY poor. Any single-player RPG
game rings around EQ as a single-player game. If I felt like single-player
gaming I'd play BG2.

A lot of the argument was spent on time arguing percentages - but that was
pretty much arguing 1+2 I guess...

The thread kind of reminds me of the Monty Python Argument sketch - the
argument SEEMS to be going nowhere just argument for arguments sake (that's
an exaggeration too by the way)

Again - I don't mean this as a flame - or even negative in any way - I'm
just intellectually both intrigued and very confused at the same time as to
what is REALLY being argued...

Slyde