This is the most overly-semantic, nitpicky thread I've ever read here. :) Oh
well.
I'm just gonna quote people w/out names, so it's gonna be kinda random. My
opinions:
>well it started out by someone saying dirge was useless due to recast time
>and
>resists. i said what resist problem, i never have any, and it is useful in
>some
>situations including pvp.
I wouldn't call it useless, but I would call it not very useful. *shrug* I
definitely agree with Shada on the resist rates - they further reducing the
already LOW chance that this would ever take up one of my spell slots.
>they are useless). the song has been compared to harm touch, and i think
>it compares
>favorably to harmtouch with respect to damage/refresh time.
I don't know why. With Dirge I can hit multiple targets for 450ish damage
once every 30-40 minutes or so. It is 100% useless on raid-level mobs that
require lure-level spells (which is a mostly what I see daily). HT is a free
ability, doesn't take any mana or spell slots, drops a sizeable nuke on a
target at lure-level resistance when paired with discipline. I guess in
terms of regular xp-ing dirge might seem more useful. Not using it won't
make you less of a bard though, thx.
>I have never fought what is now an "uber mob". However, according to >
>people
>on this list (and others) they take in the range of 10 minutes to kill.
>Which means med times matter. SO why wouldn't having a bard in the >
>wizard
>group be useful?
Pre-Velious mobs take anywhere from 30 seconds to 3 or 4 minutes to kill
depending on which mob, how many people are engaging it, and how well they
survive. Velious mobs can take upwards of 15 minutes.
>I am assuming that resist rates are useless on these mobs...
If you're talking about dirge, you are correct.
>So, now that we all (except whee) agree it's worthless to mem, what changes
>would need to be made to make it worth memming in place of some other song?
Take it out of the game and replace it with a mem-wipe song. :) So solly
PVPers.
About what classes are good for raiding:
I still feel that I have my place on raids, and I NEVER have any "your class
is useless" stigma hanging over my head from my guildmates. This goes for
every member in my guild. You can get through this entire game and kill just
about every mob in the game using just clerics, warriors, rogues, and
enchanters. Thankfully, my guild hasn't devolved to this point like I know
one prominent guild on my server (Veeshan) has.
I totally agree with the single-shaman stress syndrome. You only NEED 1
active, but I'd never want to be in his shoes. :)
Sartori D'Elsiraad{Legion}
59 Bard (I will get 60 oh yes I will...after this next raid)
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