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Message ID: 24926
Date: Wed May 30 20:05:02 BST 2001
Author: Daniel Sniderman
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message


Hehe - man I need to learn not to respond to the list before my first cup of
coffee in the morning...

I like the Spit Valve of Doom - and there will be different values - a
trumpet gives smallest affect while a tuba the biggest!

BTW - not to get into another debate on mino horns - but the trombone is a
Brass Inst not a Wind Inst.

Also - I think there should be Wind Instrument "Sax of Gorelick" which has a
negative affect on all wind songs EXCEPT mez songs - in which case the mez
is never resisted and has an indefinite duration...


Slyde

-----Original Message-----
From: Windleaf Mistsong [mailto:windleaf@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:28 PM
To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com; eqbards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Patch Message


That's ok, to make it up to Slyde, Verant has included in this patch a
trombone. It enhances wind songs and they've added a special disorienting
attack called "Spit Valve of Doom" which causes all mobs that chase a bard
to slip and slide.

---Windleaf "cleated shoes" Mistsong

At 06:16 PM 5/30/01 +0000, firehawk@... wrote:
>Slyde ole brother of song.. the lad was making a jest. :)
>Actually the reason for the deaths had nothing to do with aria. It was
>part of a series of "fixes" to prevent chain and over casting that broke
>bards. All bard songs were effected Aria was the only one that got people
>killed. No bard songs would refresh so you got one pulse had to stop the
>song and then had to restart it. Aria at the time had about 4 seconds of
>duration beyond the pulse just enough to get you out of safty and into a
>long drop :)
>The next batch which fixed that problem then made it that weapons would
>not proc while bard song was active. That took them about a week or so to
>fix. The lists go on.
>
>Our Aria still will allow us to gain altitude and so does caster
>recasting. However there is now a "glass celling" that dictates how high
>you can go in a specific area.
>
>On Wed, 30 May 2001 10:50:11 -0500 eqbards@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > The problem we old bards are talking about has nothing to do with Selos
and
> > Arie of Eagles stacking.
> >
> > At one time non bards could cast their levitate spells before they ran
out;
> > which made the levitate higher - so they could use multiple casts to
> > "Climb". Verant nerfed it by requiring it to completely end before
> > recasting.
> >
> > This broke our levitate song. The second and subsequent pulse of AOE
> (and I
> > assume Selo's Traveling - didn't have it then) wouldn't work until it
ran
> > out and you fell. The unlucky bards who found this out the hard way -
and
> > used the song THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED TO WORK often fell to their death.
> >
> > It was clear that Verant made a change to the spell system without doing
> > ANY testing on the bard class. Literally 19 seconds of testing
> would have
> > caught this bug.
> >
> > Similarly - they made a change to speed where Drums didn't add to the
> > affect of Selo's. Again - many bards died expecting their songs to work
> > they way they were designed (i.e. running away from mobs etc). In this
case
> > - 3 seconds of testing would have caught it. They admitted it was a
bug -
> > but refused to fix it until the next patch went in. They said it wasn't
> > critical enough (we were upset about this wondering the reaction from
the
> > player base is SOW was broken...)
> >
> > I'm sure other old-timers could probably come up with a half-dozen or
more
> > bugs caused by changes to the spell system not intending to affect Bards
> > that were introduced into the live servers because the most trivial
level
> > of testing the bard class wasn't done by Verant.
> >
> > Heck the Selo's speed bug was even discovered on Test by players and
> > reported to Verant - and they missed it...
> >
> > Slyde
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henrik Holm [mailto:HEH@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:01 AM
> > To: 'eqbards@yahoogroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message
> >
> >
> > Selo and arie of eagles do not stack, this was a nessesary nerf because
> > bards would outrun guides and make fun of them. Now the will plummet to
> > their death in many areas
> >
> > Musiker ;)
> >
> >
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