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Message ID: 24948
Date: Fri Jun 1 17:12:20 BST 2001
Author: Christopher Sanders
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message


November 1999 - Level 32 and 3/5ths. :) I actually got a blue and a half
last night...heh.

Atonal

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:04 PM
To: 'eqbards@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message


That's okay Musiker, I've been playing since March 31, 1999 and I'm just
about to hit 40...

Kitasi

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Holm [mailto:HEH@...]
Sent: Thursday, 31 May, 2001 12:04 AM
To: 'eqbards@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message


Ups returned to work and saw 25 messages in the bards list.. Thought they
REALLY did screw something up.. And then it was my little bad joke that gave
reason to some of these messages ;)
Btw. Ive been playing my bard since april 2 1999. So he must qualify as an
old bard, hehe. Im just a casual player so Im still only 48th level, but Ive
been on this list for a loonnnnggg time. I remember when the guy from verant
and the tester roamed around. Those where the days with lots of good info
and communications bards around norrath, forgotten their names though.

Musiker, bertox


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: 31. maj 2001 06:40
> To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message
>
>
> Guess I'm not the only one who was humor-challenged today <g>...
>
> Slyde
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nygaardr, FC3 [mailto:nygaardr@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:18 PM
> To: 'eqbards@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message
>
>
> Yes, and enchanters need an unresistable indefinite duration
> mez too that
> costs 50% of thier mana, sound fair?
>
> Mu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:05 PM
> To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message
>
>
> Hehe - man I need to learn not to respond to the list before
> my first cup of
> coffee in the morning...
>
> I like the Spit Valve of Doom - and there will be different values - a
> trumpet gives smallest affect while a tuba the biggest!
>
> BTW - not to get into another debate on mino horns - but the
> trombone is a
> Brass Inst not a Wind Inst.
>
> Also - I think there should be Wind Instrument "Sax of
> Gorelick" which has a
> negative affect on all wind songs EXCEPT mez songs - in which
> case the mez
> is never resisted and has an indefinite duration...
>
>
> Slyde
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Windleaf Mistsong [mailto:windleaf@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:28 PM
> To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com; eqbards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Patch Message
>
>
> That's ok, to make it up to Slyde, Verant has included in this patch a
> trombone. It enhances wind songs and they've added a special
> disorienting
> attack called "Spit Valve of Doom" which causes all mobs that
> chase a bard
> to slip and slide.
>
> ---Windleaf "cleated shoes" Mistsong
>
> At 06:16 PM 5/30/01 +0000, firehawk@... wrote:
> >Slyde ole brother of song.. the lad was making a jest. :)
> >Actually the reason for the deaths had nothing to do with
> aria. It was
> >part of a series of "fixes" to prevent chain and over
> casting that broke
> >bards. All bard songs were effected Aria was the only one
> that got people
> >killed. No bard songs would refresh so you got one pulse
> had to stop the
> >song and then had to restart it. Aria at the time had about
> 4 seconds of
> >duration beyond the pulse just enough to get you out of
> safty and into a
> >long drop :)
> >The next batch which fixed that problem then made it that
> weapons would
> >not proc while bard song was active. That took them about a
> week or so to
> >fix. The lists go on.
> >
> >Our Aria still will allow us to gain altitude and so does caster
> >recasting. However there is now a "glass celling" that
> dictates how high
> >you can go in a specific area.
> >
> >On Wed, 30 May 2001 10:50:11 -0500 eqbards@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > > The problem we old bards are talking about has nothing to
> do with Selos
> and
> > > Arie of Eagles stacking.
> > >
> > > At one time non bards could cast their levitate spells
> before they ran
> out;
> > > which made the levitate higher - so they could use
> multiple casts to
> > > "Climb". Verant nerfed it by requiring it to completely
> end before
> > > recasting.
> > >
> > > This broke our levitate song. The second and subsequent
> pulse of AOE
> > (and I
> > > assume Selo's Traveling - didn't have it then) wouldn't
> work until it
> ran
> > > out and you fell. The unlucky bards who found this out
> the hard way -
> and
> > > used the song THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED TO WORK often fell
> to their death.
> > >
> > > It was clear that Verant made a change to the spell
> system without doing
> > > ANY testing on the bard class. Literally 19
> seconds of testing
> > would have
> > > caught this bug.
> > >
> > > Similarly - they made a change to speed where Drums
> didn't add to the
> > > affect of Selo's. Again - many bards died expecting their
> songs to work
> > > they way they were designed (i.e. running away from mobs
> etc). In this
> case
> > > - 3 seconds of testing would have caught it. They
> admitted it was a
> bug -
> > > but refused to fix it until the next patch went in. They
> said it wasn't
> > > critical enough (we were upset about this wondering the
> reaction from
> the
> > > player base is SOW was broken...)
> > >
> > > I'm sure other old-timers could probably come up with a
> half-dozen or
> more
> > > bugs caused by changes to the spell system not intending
> to affect Bards
> > > that were introduced into the live servers because the
> most trivial
> level
> > > of testing the bard class wasn't done by Verant.
> > >
> > > Heck the Selo's speed bug was even discovered on Test by
> players and
> > > reported to Verant - and they missed it...
> > >
> > > Slyde
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Henrik Holm [mailto:HEH@...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:01 AM
> > > To: 'eqbards@yahoogroups.com'
> > > Subject: RE: [eqbards] Patch Message
> > >
> > >
> > > Selo and arie of eagles do not stack, this was a
> nessesary nerf because
> > > bards would outrun guides and make fun of them. Now the
> will plummet to
> > > their death in many areas
> > >
> > > Musiker ;)
> > >
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