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Message ID: 25833
Date: Thu Feb 14 19:24:40 GMT 2002
Author: John Grady
Subject: RE: [eqbards] twisting 5, added note


This is funny. I can remember every once in awhile someone in my guild would say; "I grouped with
so-and-so and s/he can twist 4+ plus songs, can you?" So I'd explain how it ensures that resists
will be off a percentage of the time, I won't be able to talk or see messages fly by, etc., etc.
I'm mostly retired now, but once I explained it to them, my guild never went with this marketing
pitch.

If someone wants a key mashing job, I suppose they have every right to market themselves. In all
honesty, I think is the only time I've twisted four was to impress a new group. And in reality, it
always seems like they think its 4 but I know its only 3.5.

Tzeetch, Troubador of Tunes
The Commune, Xegony

Asmerelda, 39th Healer
The Dark Order, Lancelot

P.S. This is the most activity I've seen on this list in months. Good topic.

--- Christopher Sanders <christopher.sanders@...> wrote:

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Quite frankly, I find it hard to believe that a person is actually<BR>
"twisting" 5 songs.  Factor in cast times, and song duration after it ends,<BR>
and when twisting 4 songs, almost always, the first effect will drop before<BR>
you get back to it.  You can add amplification to a 4 song twist, and call<BR>
it 5, but when it comes time to refresh amplification, you'll probably lose<BR>
an effect just as you're trying to twist it back in, resulting in a catch up<BR>
effect where a song wears off a pulse or two before it can be refreshed, all<BR>
the way through the twist, so you've only got 3 songs active anyway, not<BR>
counting amplification.<BR>
<BR>
I'm not sure if anyone ever actually defined "twisting".  To me, it is the<BR>
ability to keep the effects of multiple songs **active** on my group, or on<BR>
the mob, at ALL times.  A 3 song twist is common among high level bards (am<BR>
I a high level bard now?  :P ).  Why?  Because we've been playing the class<BR>
long enough to realize that, under most circumstances, it is the best twist.<BR>
Some song lineups, and situations make a 4 song twist desired, and while<BR>
possible, it's a lot harder, and is only practical when the occassional<BR>
dropped effect isn't that big a deal.  Like manasong, which is a shot of<BR>
mana when pulsed, and not a regen effect.<BR>
<BR>
But when you're talking a song effect dropping for a duration of time, which<BR>
is what would happen in a 5 song twist...well, it's not really a twist.<BR>
<BR>
If you insist it is, then I'd like to be the first to introduce myself as<BR>
the best bard in EQ, because I can twist 8.<BR>
<BR>
/bow<BR>
<BR>
Atonal<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: KAZ [mailto:kazvorpal@...]<BR>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 8:17 AM<BR>
To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com<BR>
Subject: RE: [eqbards] twisting 5, added note<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
--- Michael Roach <MikeRoach@...> wrote:<BR>
> A great bard does not need to twist 5 songs.  A bard who twists 3 or more<BR>
> songs knows what he is doing and is playing his character well.  Playing<BR>
> your character well has nothing to do with how much expensive computer<BR>
> equipment you can afford or how good your equipment is.<BR>
<BR>
As utopian and egalitarian as this sounds, it doesn't make any sense.<BR>
<BR>
One who twists three may be ROLE playing well, but logically one who twists<BR>
five is, obviously, contributing /more/ to the group. Period. One plus one<BR>
equals two, no matter how embarassing it may be to those with only one.<BR>
<BR>
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