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<b>Message ID:</b> 2618 <br/>
<b>Date:</b> Tue Jun 29 17:19:29 BST 1999 <br/>
<b>Author:</b> John Kim <br/>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: does Bard need charisma? <br/>
<br/><br/>
<div id="ygrps-yiv-1501690311">On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, G2 Dan wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; Will the song, Cinda`s Charismatic Carillon aid you in getting better prices<br/>
&gt; for selling/buying items?  Even if it just a few copper.  I wonder.<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>Prices seem to be determined by charisma, faction, and<br/>
something else - possibly race and/or diety.  In general, when<br/>
I started the game at 110 charisma, I got the best possible<br/>
prices at all merchants who were indifferent or higher.<br/>
<br/>
As I&#39;ve played, I&#39;ve noticed that several friends with<br/>
charisma around 90 were getting the same prices as me (or<br/>
close to) from merchants who were amiable or higher.  There<br/>
are other instances which I haven&#39;t quite figured out yet<br/>
which I&#39;m chalking up to race or diety for now.  But in<br/>
general, especially with the Charisma song, a chr of 90 or so<br/>
should be sufficient to get you the best prices from most any<br/>
merchant.  (For reference, best selling prices are: minotaur<br/>
axe 3.33pp, greater lightstone 4.3?pp, bronze 2H sword 4pp,<br/>
combine rapier/longsword 47.621pp; best buying prices are:<br/>
combine rapier/longsword 52.5pp)<br/>
<br/>
Charisma definitely affects the duration of charm type songs<br/>
(Lament, Charisma, etc).  Other people here seem to complain<br/>
about the effect not lasting long enough for them to finish<br/>
lamenting all the mobs, or for them to buy/sell an item.  My<br/>
experience with 110 (120 now) charisma has been that the<br/>
effects of these songs last several minutes, even when played<br/>
without an instrument.<br/>
<br/>
Charisma is also rumored to affect the chance of certain songs<br/>
being resisted.  I&#39;ve seen no evidence to back this up, other<br/>
than a general observation that I find the Lullaby to be a<br/>
great song to use, while others seem to feel it gets resisted<br/>
too often.  Several enchanters also swear that charisma<br/>
decreases their resist rate, while others swear that it<br/>
doesn&#39;t.<br/>
<br/>
In short, if I were starting a new bard knowing what I know<br/>
now, I&#39;d probably distribute my points equally between str,<br/>
dex, chr, and maybe agi.  I hadn&#39;t really intended to play a<br/>
bard full-time, and just thought it would be a good class with<br/>
which to get a feel for the game.  So I put all my points into<br/>
chr to test its effect on prices.  Little did I know I&#39;d end<br/>
up hooked on playing a bard...  :-)<br/>
<br/>
--<br/>
John H. Kim<br/>
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