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Message ID: 3144
Date: Thu Jul 8 21:44:47 BST 1999
Author: Mike Roach
Subject: Re: New term for "Twisting"


Here is my 2 coppers since we are splitting hairs and most of us are just
trying to find something to do while we are sitting at work and killing time
while we wait to get home so that we can do what we really want to
do...which is play EQ.

To me, while "Weaving" is justifiable and makes a lot of sense, it makes
more sense in the context of "Songweaving." Songweaving is definitely too
long and would never catch on as a quick method to describe the activity in
question. Calling it "Weaving" for short seems too weak, and too close to
sounding like some sissy skill like "Tailoring" - i.e., "oooooh, I am good
at weaving tonight."

Medley, (if you will pardon my bluntness) is completely out of the question
and should not be brought up again. I don't feel a justification for my
opinion on this is necessary.

Juggling seems the best candidate I have contemplated thus far partly for
the same reasons given by Jyzan below. I feel like I am juggling when I am
performing the activity of keeping several song affects active at once.
Examine the following definition of the word "juggle" as it is derived from
Webster's dictionary:

Main Entry: 1jug´┐¢gle
Pronunciation: 'j&-g&l
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): jug´┐¢gled; jug´┐¢gling /-g(&-)li[ng]/
Etymology: Middle English jogelen, from Middle French jogler to joke, from
Latin joculari, from joculus, diminutive of jocus joke
Date: 15th century
intransitive senses
1 : to perform the tricks of a juggler
2 : to engage in manipulation especially in order to achieve a desired end
transitive senses
1 a : to practice deceit or trickery on : BEGUILE b : to manipulate or
rearrange especially in order to achieve a desired end <juggle an account to
hide a loss>
2 a : to toss in the manner of a juggler b : to hold or balance precariously
3 : to handle or deal with usually several things (as obligations) at one
time so as to satisfy often competing requirements <juggle the
responsibilities of family life and full-time job -- Jane S. Gould>


Now take a look at the definition for "Weave" and tell me which one you
think suits this unique ability we Bards have better:

Main Entry: 1weave
Pronunciation: 'wEv
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): wove /'wOv/; or weaved; wo´┐¢ven /'wO-v&n/; or weaved;
weav´┐¢ing
Etymology: Middle English weven, from Old English wefan; akin to Old High
German weban to weave, Greek hyphainein to weave, hyphos web
Date: before 12th century
transitive senses
1 a : to form (cloth) by interlacing strands (as of yarn); specifically : to
make (cloth) on a loom by interlacing warp and filling threads b : to
interlace (as threads) into cloth c : to make (as a basket) by intertwining
2 : SPIN 2 -- used of spiders and insects
3 : to interlace especially to form a texture, fabric, or design
4 a : to produce by elaborately combining elements : CONTRIVE b : to unite
in a coherent whole c : to introduce as an appropriate element : work in --
usually used with in or into
5 : to direct (as the body) in a winding or zigzag course especially to
avoid obstacles
intransitive senses
1 : to work at weaving : make cloth
2 : to move in a devious, winding, or zigzag course especially to avoid
obstacles

Faras of Qeynos
Half-Elf Bard of the 19th song
E'ci Server

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Robertson [mailto:johnr@...]
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 3:33 PM
> To: eqbards@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] New term for "Twisting"
>
>
> From: John Robertson <johnr@...>
>
>
>
> Bob Stewart wrote:
>
> > From: Bob Stewart <dreambard@...>
> >
> > At 01:54 PM 7/8/99 -0400, John Robertson wrote:
> > >Well, I don't mean to seem non-democratic, but I'm always
> going to refer to
> > >it as "juggling", since that is what I've always called
> it, and what it
> > >really feels like I'm doing while playing.
> >
> > So either we go along with you or continue to use different words.
> >
> > I had hoped we could perhaps come to agreement on this
> topic. If we have a
> > groundswell for "juggling" I'll concede, in the interest of
> picking one word.
> >
> > Other than being used to it, do you have a reason to prefer
> "juggling" over
> > "weaving?" I'd really rather be persuaded by compelling
> argument instead
> > of ultimatum.
>
> Don't be disappointed if I don't use the term, there's
> hundreds of bards who
> aren't even on the list who won't even know what we're talking about.
>
> The main reason I call it juggling is that that's what it
> feels like I'm doing,
> clicking buttons left and right, trying to keep all the
> effects happening.
> Weaving sounds like too placid a term for such a hectic activity. :)
>
> Jyzan
>
>
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