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Message ID: 3320
Date: Mon Jul 12 21:22:02 BST 1999
Author: Schafer, Timothy L 1425
Subject: RE: Max damage?


This actually would not surprise me if it's something Verant added recently,
since Twisting can somewhat be considered an exploit, even tho Verant has
not announced this, it wouldn't surprise me to see that they added the extra
damage to make up for the added bonuses of twisting. This way they are
happy, and us the unknowing are not getting as much benefit as we thought.

I personally don't twist, I may switch up songs in battle if the needs
arise, but I have never found twisting to be that big a benefit. At 17th
level the healing song only restores 7hp/tick while standing, and the
average monster is hitting for 20-50 pts per hit, so the heal isn't worth
it, when if I play anthem and it doesn't ever quit they get a more increased
attack rate, so therefore they do more damage.

I just don't think twisting is worth it. The closest I come is while
bellowing, as soon as I see the damage message, I stop and restart the song.
This decreases the times between bellows almost in half. I actually felt
guilty about this at first, but without doing this, I would have problems
fighting some of the black/white creatures that I tend to solo.

I know that most bards do twist, and I do not hold this against you in any
ways, but are you wanting me to believe that the game was designed to do
this? I don't believe it was, I think the reasons the songs don't stop
immediately is so that if you get bashed or stunned, that you can restart
the song without losing the effect of whichever song you were playing.

This is just my 2cp.

Wenaddar 17th level bard of Cazic-Thule


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> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Max damage?
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> From: RON_TALBOT@...
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>
> Treilanin said:
>
> Now my other observation has anyone noticed that if a mob hits you while
> you are starting up a song he seems to be hit for max damage? I noticed
> the difference awhile ago when I picked up bellow. I used to play one
> song during combat. Once I got bellow I noticed that hits that landed
> just as I started a song resulted in greater damage. This is something
> that I have seen while playing my mage character over the last few days.
> If I am hit while casting death beetles almost always hit for 26 or so.
> Can anyone else confirm it? When I saw it I just thought I was seeing
> things.
>
> OUCH! If this is true then Weaving songs may not be the best of
> ideas. More chances for a full damage hit. Anyone else notice this?
>
> I will watch closely from now on but my general impression is that he
>
> might be right... Makes being a support bard make much more sense.
> If this is true (shudder) then this could change the whole
> methodology
> behind running a bard character.
>
> Bujold 17th (finally)
> Xegony
>
>
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