Thanks Zend, thats actually the type of answer that I was looking for. I
knew I was missing something, but I just didn't know what it was. The
complaining about everything under the sun was a little misdirected,
however. Like the majority of my post said, I am happy with Verant.
The expansion pack does still annoy me a little, but then again, I'm only 17
year old cynic. I'm not content with the way buisiness is done, but thats
how it HAS to be done, and so its up to me to deal with it. Thanks for
pointing out the timing issues, however:
>"LONG after the current bugs are fixed people would be complaining there
were no MAJOR updates cuz the >expansion would still be a year down the
road. "
Right, so I guess they DO need to work on it now. I'll just have to hope
they keep enough staff on the current product to keep it in good order.
Gabriel
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Naugle <
zendarin@...>
To:
eqbards@onelist.com <
eqbards@onelist.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 2:56 PM
Subject: [eqbards] Re: Reply to accusation that Verant isn't effective.
>From: "Jack Naugle" <zendarin@...>
>
>Whoa. Ease up there Gabriel. Take a look at how many years it takes
>to develop a game like this. Of course they are working on an
>expansion. Otherwise, LONG after the current bugs are fixed people
>would be complaining there were no MAJOR updates cuz the expansion
>would still be a year down the road. Just because they are looking
>ahead and planning expansions to the game doesn't mean they have
>stopped working on the current issues, they are announcing fixes to
>existing problems every week on EQ vault and EQ Stratics.
>Let's stop complaining about everything under the sun and give Verant
>some credit for designing the most awesome online game to ever come
>along.
>
>Zendarin
>The Wandering Minstrel
>
>>From: "Gabriel" <gdiaz@...>
>>
>>(I'm 17, and not really into economics, or buisiness, so the
>following is
>>all limited speculation on my behalf. Read at your own discretion,
>and
>>correct me if you may. Friendly opinions welcomed too.)
>>
>>Well, personally I feel that we may be demanding too much out of the
>company
>>right now. Yes, it was realeased as only a portion of what it
>SHOULD be,
>>but the entire process...hiring all the help, setting up servers,
>beta
>>testing, and everything else, must have cost a FORTUNE compared to
>what your
>>average game would cost to produce (Avg game = Anything not
>promising lots
>>of future patches or an evolving world, etc.).
>>For ANY company, even a subdivision of the super-rich Sony Corp, to
>invest
>>enough time and cash into a game like this to get rid of ALL
>significant
>>bugs etc. would be an incredible risk for the company.
>>
>>Well, it took god 6 days to create the world...and on the seventh
>day he
>>rested. Give Brad and the team a break, they are only
>humans...humans under
>>the confines of a Sony controlled company, which does have to be
>careful how
>>they invest their money.
>>
>>The only thing that bugs me is that an expansion was already hinted
>at being
>>in the works by a Verant employee, and they still have bards
>strumming a
>>stick when playing the drums. Don't even get me started on the
>other holes,
>>you all know what I'm talking about. If they ARE building an
>expansion now,
>>I would stop playing immediatly. A company that would think of
>money from
>>an expansion before bringing quality promised to an existing product
>has its
>>priorities WAY off base.
>>
>>Heres why I think they are working on expansions:
>>
>>"How much? I can't get into anything like that because we haven't
>even
>>really officially announced anything about expansions."
>>
>>This was said by Brad McQuaid in response to questions concerning
>the price
>>of future expansions. It definately hints at something going on,
>but of
>>course there are no official announcements yet.
>>
>>"There will be announcements soon about what to expect (well, more
>like
>>teasers). I really do wish I could tell you more, because there's
>some
>>really cool stuff, but I am not the keeper of PR."
>>
>>This was said by Rick Schmitz, artist at Verant, in response to the
>question
>>of the possability of an expansion. It definately hints at it.
>>
>>Oh well, I'll deal with it when the official announcements are
>made. Expect
>>cussing.
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Gabriel
>>
>>
>>
>>To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
>>Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:32 PM
>>Subject: [eqbards] Re: Kiting - Is it bad?
>>
>>
>>>From: Rodney Morris <rodmorris@...>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"King, Darrin" wrote:
>>>> Check this quote about exploits:
>>>> Farming - using broken spells or specific spell effects to kill,
>drag, or
>>>> lure monsters, thus gaining experience/loot from them.
>>>
>>>Talk about your vague statements!
>>>Does that mean that when I die in North Karanas, and I run around
>>>the newbie zone singing Dissonance, killing everything withing
>sight,
>>>to get some gold to buy food for the trip back, that I am farming?
>>>My friend consistenly lures monsters our way with spells, to save
>>>us the hassle of chasing it down. Is this farming?
>>>
>>>Here come some more, from the web site:
>>> Price Gouging ´┐¢ finding items that have anomalous pricing and
>>>abusing them, such as items that sell for more than they cost to
>buy.
>>>
>>>OK, this one seems to make some sense. If an NPC has lost his mind
>>>and is selling fine steel swords for 1gp, and buys it back off you
>for
>>>1pp.
>>>
>>> PvP Switch Avoidance ´┐¢ Using in-game methods to work around
>the PvP
>>>switch and allowing non-PvP players to kill other players,
>>> such as hall blocking, dumping of monsters, or spell effects
>that
>>>cross that boundary due to a bug.
>>>
>>>Dumping of monsters?! I'd like someone to prove that I was
>>>intentionally dumping the monster, and not just running for the
>guard.
>>>But I guess that's the point, isn't it? Verant don't have to prove
>>>anything, do they?
>>>
>>>I think there is a larger issue here. In a word, it is 'Verant'.
>>>I am impressed with the game, but unimpressed with Verant, on so
>>>many levels. I have come close to cancelling my account once
>already.
>>>
>>>Rod
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