I will disagree with you on allowing Dark elves to be bards. Bards, for the
most part, tend to be of neutral (I'll use the word alignment as most people
can relate to this better than faction) and are accepted almost in every
cultural environment (that is not to say in Norrath they are neutral, you
can select an evil god to worship). Why? All cultures enjoy music to an
extent. So allowing Dark Elves to be bards, you are allowing them to be
accepted in each cultural area without the rigors of increasing your
faction. That is something else I disagree with in the game, allowing evil
races to improve their faction so drastically with the good races. There
should be a limit as to how far you can improve your faction - my feelings
are we already have too man 'Drizzt' in the game anyway. Sorry I got off on
a tangent. But if we are not going to limit them from being bards, why
limit them in anything? Or any other race for that matter? You used the
three large races as an example. Sorry but any race that have intelligence
to cast spells like a shaman can WILL be able to play music. It doesn't
take someone of genius caliber. Even the aborigines beat on drums for
different ceremonies, whether it be a wedding or war. And what is the
definition of civilized in the game? It depends on your race. The elves
of Felwithe think all other races are inferior and uncivilized. I've never
really considered dark elves civilized, even though they live in a vast city
underground. Their nature is more of chaotic mayhem than anything.
Another thing, Bards LOVE their music. My idea of a dark elf is they can
not love anything but themselves.
Cwelenas, Minstrel of the 6th Chord
Angarth Bladedancer, Warrior of the 21st Tier
"Periissem ni periisem"
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> From: Kevikazzam@...[SMTP:Kevikazzam@...]
> Reply To: eqbards@onelist.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 6:00 AM
> To: eqbards@onelist.com
> Subject: [eqbards] A rant - but bard related - for the most part
>
> From: Kevikazzam@...
>
> Hello all ,
> Its been a while since i've posted on this list , but i'll just jump
>
> right in.
>
> 1) I feel that dark elves should have the bard class open to them. The
> evil
> races in themselves are very limited in the classes allowed to them. I
> mean
> whats really the big difference between ogres and trolls. yes they look
> different , and yes they have different cultures and starting locations,
> but
> what really seperates them from each other? what makes an ogre stand out
> from
> a troll ? nothing when it comes deep down to it. Dark elves have more
> classes open to them , but it still doesn't measure up to non evil races.
> This is going to be a big thing on the upcoming race war server.
> Now , why should dark elfs be bards. They are intelligent ,
> civilized
> ( evil but civilized) , and have a rich history. so they may sing evil
> songs
> , or chant drums to evil ceremonies. big deal, doesn't take away from the
> fact that it is song , and it is history. Now why should dark elfs be
> allowed
> to be bards and not other races. Ok here goes Ogres- uncivilized and
> stupid ,
> same as trolls. Gnomes , they're all into their gadgets and don' seem to
> impressed with song. Barbarians and haflings - earthy barbarians i
> wouldn't
> exactly called civilized , their brains are bigger and their bodies are
> smaller than trolls. but they still live in cold shacks in the ice and
> aren't
> that smart. For them its pretty much the stronger you are the better.
> halflings seem like a racethat is in touch with nature, , to be honest
> they
> just don't strike me as a race that would want to have bards. they seem
> more
> like a race that is in touch with their surroundings ( nature , animals)
> than
> they are with music and keeping history. Dwarves are all about work much
> like
> gnomes, they are a rugged gruff race. and heck they already have a bunch
> of
> classes open to them. ( struggling a bit there ) In any case i'm
> interested
> in seeing what others think of this , thats many why i posted it , so feel
>
> free to disagree , and post it :)
>
> Also , i can't seem to find an effective way to twist bellow with
> others songs. i've been trying to twist with heal or chords. but i know
> in
> the time i take to twist i could have already casted bellow twice. least
> thats what it seems like.
>
> And as far as bards having the ability to be bound anywhere. I agree
>
> that it should be something like that. personally i feel most if not all
> ahould be allowed to too. Of course if this was implemented i would it put
> in
> a certain way. This is my possible solutions . 1 - put in more specific
> spots
> that people can be bound at. not just the entrance to a dungeon or a city.
>
> but a certain house , or landmark or something where you can be bound.
> Also
> with this i would put level restrictions on it. when you get to a certain
> level you can be bound at those spots , but not until then. And as you
> progress more bound areas become open to you. or perhaps once you
> accompish a
> certain task for a gate keeper at the area of the bound spot before he
> lets
> you in. something , anything is better than running 5 zones to get your
> corpse back. I know its in an attempt at equality and in roleplaying. but
> it
> isn't much fun, and it is time consuming.
>
> Ok if you've made it this far - woohoo i'm surprised
> All replies are good replies - thanks
>
> Ulaien Firesong
> Lvl 30 bard of tunare
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