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Message ID: 4170
Date: Thu Jul 22 19:31:41 BST 1999
Author: John Kim
Subject: Re: Blackened Iron Armor *SPOILER* (OT)


On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Jesse wrote:
> >
> > > I think it's quite clear that simply twinking a character and CAMPING for
> > > items to twink another char are quite different.
> >
> > But these are indistinguishable. Given a symptom that has a
> > neutral cause and a negative cause, you are going to share in
> > the misery handed out by those bitter about the negative
> > cause.
>
> They're indistinguishable to you. What business is it of yours? None.

I've stated over and over how twinking can negatively impact
the gameplay of non-twinkers. That makes it my business. If
all of a sudden your pay was cut by 25%, but you were unable
to determine exactly who was responsible for the decision,
wouldn't you say it's your business?

> If there's a symptom of something that has a GOOD cause (prevents me from
> going and camping with my new character all over again) and a negative
> cause, YOU may share in the misery, but I won't. Not once have I felt any
> pain due to a twinked person.

Most everyone agrees the servers are overcrowded. If 20% of
the players are twinked, and they clear out 30% of the mobs in
an area because they are more effective, that leaves 70% of
the mobs for the other 80% of players. See the pain?

> > I've had friends do the same thing as you. But I daresay,
> > most twinked characters are secondary (or third, or fourth,
> > etc) characters made by players who want to build up a
> > different class/character quickly, with little regard for all
> > the toes they'll be stepping on on the way.
>
> Oh yes, look at all those toes I stepped on by not camping for tomahawks..
> oh my god. I guess I better go camp those items (with my new char), making
> everyone wait longer and the game less and less fun for everyone.

Reread the first line in my message you're quoting. I have no
problem with giving equipment to other characters when you're
done using it. All I was saying is that that sort of twinking
is indistinguishable from the evil sort, and as such you are
going to catch some of the flak aimed at the evil kind.

> The alternative is to stop crying and whining over things that are most
> likely not hurting you and most likely do more good than harm.
>
> Your choice seems to be to shoot all the innocents just in case there's a
> bad guy in there. What an honorable decision, yes, you shot the bad guys..
> nevermind those people who are actually making the situation better.

I find it odd that you're so upset about this. If you're one
of these innocents, the *only* problem you'll have which can't
be handled by the /ignore command is people withholding help
from you. Why should people be obligated to help you? I
sense a double-standard - twinkers should be free to play the
game the way they choose, but other players shouldn't be free
to withhold help from twinkers?

And if it bothers you this much, you can stop it immediately -
put away your twinked items until they're appropriate for your
level.

--
John H. Kim
kim@...