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Message ID: 4908
Date: Thu Aug 5 00:12:04 BST 1999
Author: RON_TALBOT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx.xxx
Subject: Re: Bard Petition


I agree with many of these suggestions especially the 'fix the Z axis
bug' one. I have one of my own

1. Since Verant rants about how this game is designed for parting
they need to improve the desirability of haveing a bard in a party.
Now that I have learned about the enchanter speed spell line I now
understand why it is sometimes very difficult to find a party that
wants a bard when you go to a new zone where your not known. I
personally felt that the attack speed buff we provided from anthem,
celerity etc should be one of our main attractions. Since the
enchanter buffs are better this is no longer the case. (

SO... replace one the of late teens/early twenties songs with a toned
downed version of the 32 level mana song. Maybe half as effective as
the 32 level song. This would definitely solve the, what good are
bards for, problem between about 15th and 32 level.

Bujold
19th level
Xegony


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Subject: [eqbards] Bard Petition
Author: Non-HP-JudsonSapp (JudsonSapp@...) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw5
Date: 8/4/99 9:32 AM


From: "Judson Sapp" <JudsonSapp@...>

I read a post about starting back up the bard petition. I for one do not
like petitions but for some strange reason that seems to be the way to get
things fixed with this game. So I wrote the original writer of the Bard
petition and he wrote me back saying "If you rally some people to make new
comments, I will overhaul it and submit it to Brad". The ball is in our
court so I was hoping to see a bunch of new comments on things we would like
to have fixed or changed with the class.

On a personal note my Bard character is my favorite to play, and believe it
or not on the Magician mailing list everyone there complained a lot more
about there class. I have to say though that my Mage character was a lot
more balanced than my bard. And yet they keep helping the Mages out by
fixing their complaints. Maybe the squeaky wheel does get oil.

Suggestions: As my bard is still new I can offer only a few ideas to get
the ball rolling.

1. Some of our songs seem to do just about the same thing. My idea is
change the higher level song to do more. Ex. Chant seems to me (Stats
might be the factor) to be the better song to use over Warsong and Anthem.
I have seen a lot of debate over this but here is my point, there should be
no debate. The higher song should be better.
2. I love the idea of a harmony skill.
3. I think we should get a message if we succeed in hiding like the rouges
do.
4. As far as binding goes, I am indifferent. From a role-playing stand
point it seems logical, but I can see why we do not have it also, so flip a
coin.
5. Have you ever played a Role Playing Game where a bard was not using a
crossbow or bow?
6. I love the idea about having a couple of Bard only weapons that can be
used as an instrument also. (Singing Sword to increase the affect of
singing songs, Or a whistling sword for wind) Who knows, a lot of ideas
here would help.


I hope this gets the ball rolling and as viewed as a constructive way to
help solve some bard issues.

Fair thee well friends!


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