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Message ID: 5555
Date: Wed Aug 25 08:22:50 BST 1999
Author: Jesse
Subject: Re: Mid-level songs


> > Lately, I've been grouping with druids who get pissed off when
> > I've chained and they can't snare, or when my chains break their
> > snare, so I'm thinking of reviving this one. As for the attack
> > speed and AC adjustments, I've never noticed any tangible
> > benefits. Currently never memorized.
>
> Bah - as long as you keep it Chained, why should they
> complain? Chain is superior to snare because it slows down
> attack speed. It's also a pretty good taunt, and ask any
> healer - they'd rather the bard in banded/plate be taking
> damage, not the druid in leather.

Unfortunately, a bard cannot be trusted to keep something chained. Things
sometimes resist (just once) and boom, they're around the corner.

If you have a snarer in the group, the bard should /not/ be using chains
unless you don't mind runners. Where I adventure, one runner means evac or
death.

Additionally, the chains act as a major taunt, which is sometimes good but
not always. A snare is a very weak taunt. A ranger/druid can snare a mob
and never have it aggro on him very easily. Additioanly, snare (NOT
ensnare) last a guaranteed, set time varying with level. Once they're
snared, there's no chance of that mob breaking free until that set time
has passed.

> > 23 -- Selo's Consonant Chain. Great "taunt" and as a bonus, it can be
> > used to snare runners if you don't have a snare caster in the
>
> It's better than relying on casters to snare/root because you
> can chase mobs while singing this song - they can't while
> casting snare/root.

No, it's MUCH better to rely on casters to snare. Why? Because chains has
to be cast while the runner is trying to run -- one failure and it's time
to evac. Snare can be cast on all the mobs at the beginning of the battle,
without making the mobs attack the snarer. You then no longer have to
worry about mobs escaping.

So, to summarize.. snare can be cast /before/ mobs try to run, without
getting the attention of an engaged mob and is reliable.

Chains must be used while the mob is trying to run and has multiple
chances at resist. One resist and it's evac time.

Of course, if there's nobody who can snare in the group (rooters only),
then chain away. =)

But a bard who chains snared mobs is likely to get kicked out of many
groups after getting them all killed a few times.