of course it depends on the group. but you will eventually run into this,
and i think we are just trying to give you a heads up of what to expect. i
have never had one chain last a whole fight. it can last several seconds,
but even on greens it won't last nearly as long as snare. if you have a
ranger or druid in the group, and they are doing a consistently good job of
snaring, you should loet them. it is superior to chain if they are doing
their job. if they are doing poorly, tell them to start doing their job or
you will do it for them. i have been in groups with rangers/druids where
this is done well, and others where it is not. hell i even forget or don't
chain in time because the mob's health bar is lagged to me. bottom line: if
those snaring are doing their job, then snare is better for keeping the mobs
from running, it lasts longer and is broken out of less. and yes i have
gotten my bard past level 23.
Shada D'ukal, Level 50 Bard, Mithaniel Marr
Erisi Dlarit, Level 21 Paladin, Mithaniel Marr
>
> From: Ryan Honeyman <slasher@...>
>
> >Hopefully you'll learn to do otherwise. If you don't, I can
> >guarantee you'll have a very difficult time getting groups
> >as you advance.
>
> Well, because I disagree with you and then you rattle off a
> comment like above will make me say this. I am one of the
> more popular 2nd wave bards on our server. No one has ever
> questioned my tactics, and I have people immediately asking
> me to join up with them. Druids and rangers are NOT typically
> extremely intelligent people, and either like to pure melee
> or pure burn/heal. The bard has always been stuck with making
> many songs work to their advantage, where other classes specialize
> in one or two areas.
>
> 1) Druids don't group much. They solo anything they can.
> I've been in group with druids about 5% of the time I
> play EQ. And half of that 5% was with you.
>
> 2) Rangers are melee people. Their spells are for the extra
> utility perks. They are not the best casters, I often see
> the snare spell cast (the green/yellow flying circles) and
> almost always see a full resist. (ie: no snare message)
> I don't have time to wait for the snare to kick in. I
> do not get resisted that often on chains. I miss more notes,
> than I get resists.
>
> 3) In the last two weeks, my steady group DOES NOT have a
> druid or ranger. Tactics change based on the group.
>
> ...and all this speculation about breaking out of chains,
> I think you should get your bard to level 23 and then come
> back to the table, J.
>
> In cazicthule, I can chain blue defenders/sentinels and it lasts
> the whole battle (~20 secs), without reapplication. Yellow/Red
> zealots, judicators... different story... however, once I chain
> them near the end of the battle - they do not move. This may
> takes four or fives resists, but the end goal is to stop runners.
> And I accomplish this without ANY problems.
>
> Harmonic Distortion, 30th drummer.
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