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Message ID: 6913
Date: Wed Sep 22 08:26:47 BST 1999
Author: hho@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx
Subject: RE: Petiton to replace level 14 song (Replied via digest)


I have to say that I mostly agree with Elwyn on this one.
Bards are in my oppinion pretty well balanced.

I do have some comments to what he think is important:

Message: 24
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:07:25 -0400
From: Greg Gillan <GGillan@...>
Subject: RE: Petiton to replace level 14 song

**SNIPPED some**

>If we were to generate a petition, I think more important issues should be
>covered:
>
>1) Where the hell are our missing songs?!

Heh ok no comment on that one. Since I havent missed any yet.

>2) Why do half our skills cap at such a ridiculously low level that they
>aren't even worth using?

I am unsure what skills youre talking about, but Forage, hide and sneak comes to
mind.
Forage - Imo it is working okay. It might be a bit tedius to keep hitting that
button, but if I do I am able to forage plenty of food and almost enough water.
I must admit that I dont do it anymore, but tend to buy my food. Maybe they
should change the forage skill so it have a even longer delay, but a higher
succes rate?
To sum it up. The amount of food you can forage seems ok to me, but the process
is a bit tedius.

Hide - Well this one you need another person around to use for anything. If you
do have one around its ok when going afk.

Sneak- IMO its useless. I havent spent much time using it for real. Because I
have a hard time finding out how it works
1. When I move slower is that a gurantee that it works?
2. Is the duration limited?
3. Is there mobs who can see through it.

Well I am more confident using invisio or fight my way through.

>3) Is our level 22 song Alenias Disenchanting Melody broken? If not, what
>the hell is it supposed to do?

Wasent that the one that you needed to target the mob to get the effect?

>4) Why do certain of our songs (Lullaby, Pixie Strike) work find against
>monsters, but have absolutely no effects verses players in duels?

IMO they should work in duels!

>5) Why do our songs get stuck due to lag, or when magical effects wear off
>(i.e. Guise of the Deciever)

I havent had this for a while, but when it did happen I just pressed a song
hotkey repeatly and it became unstuck rather fast.

>6) Why the $#%@#$ does my drum still look like a small wooden twig? And why
>does a mino horn now look like a small burlap sack?

Yeah!! FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT

>7) How about some high level bard quests?
>
>I'm sorry if this sounds a little harsh, but I'm sick and tired of seeing
>petition after petition saying "my monk should get bind" or "my wizard
>should be able to wear plate armor". In my opinion, Bards are the most
>versitile class in the game, and the most fun to play. We have more
>abilities than anyone else, and we get to use one of the widest ranges of
>equipment in the game. Please stop trying to make this class into something
>it was never meant to be, and play your bard as it was meant to be played.
>

Yes. I am getting tired of all the bitching about classes being unbalanced.
Every class is doing this, but IMO the only ones who can be somewhat justified
are rogues and as poison skills and more locks, traps and stuff are implemented
their arguments are falling as well.
Some of the things i would like to see is some class related quests and
equipment. I know that this is something that every class wants more of nomatter
what there is availible allready. I do however think that bards are lacking some
weapons esp. if the rumors about some bard/rougue items going rogue only now are
true.
Then I htink it would be very nice (and appropiate) with something like "Kelin's
stringed dagger" (The piercing mandoline) or "Selo's warhammer of drumming".
These could very well be implemented as rewards for quests?

Musiker Silverdrum, Bertox (21st werse)

P.S. Excuse my less than perfect english skills, but english is a second
language... and i am in bit of a rush to get this out

>
>Elwyn Heartstring
>Level 40 Bard
>Erollisi Marr