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Message ID: 7040
Date: Thu Sep 23 14:41:49 BST 1999
Author: Wayne Sheppard
Subject: Bards vs Clerics in melee


Responses to two messages below:

> From: <kim@...>
>
> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Wayne Sheppard wrote:
> >
> >
> > And Bards have much better battle skills than a cleric. It isn't even
> > close. Bards are much closer to Rangers than Clerics in combat
abilities.
>
> Clerics are almost our
> defensive equivalent. Their melee skill is weaker (4 pts/lvl
> vs our 5 pts/lvl + dual wield), but their magical offensive
> capabilities more than make up for it.

We were talking melee capabilities, not magical. Otherwise you could argue
that a wizard was just as good in melee.


> My L31 cleric friend
> is easily able to solo battles using wrath, root, melee, and
> heal that I wouldn't stand a chance in at L35 (aside from
> using charm).

Why not use charm? Or why not kite it instead. Root and shoot is just like
kiting, except more dangerous. And low 30s Clerics are an aberation. They
get Wraith at 29 but not another DD spell until 44. Wait until the lvl 31
cleric is lvl 40 using that same Wrath spell and they can't solo anything.

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> From: Mike.Langlois@...
> Subject: Re: Re: Petiton to replace level 14 song


> >And Bards have much better battle skills than a cleric. It isn't even
> >close. Bards are much closer to Rangers than Clerics in combat
abilities.
>
> I must defer to you in this, as I'm only 13th level with my Bard, so I
don't
> know what kind of divergence occurs later. However, at my level, the
cleric I
> party with is just as effective in melee as I am, and with a higher AC.
Happens
> to be better right now, because she's using a cleric only magic weapon
that is
> pretty nice...but that's beside the point :)

At low levels Clerics are decent in combat. But the higher they get, the
more they drop off.

Why does the Cleric have a better AC than you? You both can wear the same
armor. You should have very similar AC, unless the Cleric has been tweaked
up.

What magical weapon is the Cleric using? The only Cleric-only weapon would
be his summoned Hammer (6/32). A bard of your level could be using a
Combine LongSword (6/28) or even a Dirk. Either of these weapons are better
than the hammer.



Wayne