I will not repeat this particular message. I would remind folks to re read the list FAQ. There is ZERO excuse to get down into personal attacks, and even less for the language used. This is after all a bard list if you feel you MUST insult someone at least use a bit of wit. This should be a "family" oriented list.

As far as the comments about someone raising to level 12 and complaining about being underpowered. I've actually seen complaints from just about all levels, folks have different views. There are serious concerns about being a primary melee class unable to really melee well, there are issues of being a caster but being unable to do more then minimal damage to a large area thereby drawing more attention. As most of us have said and know, being in a good group reading this list and practicing cancels many of our weaknesses out. But they do remain issues try and respect that.

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Adon Draigcanwyr