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Message ID: 7217
Date: Mon Sep 27 18:07:02 BST 1999
Author: Eric Cathell
Subject: Re: Unearned Faction


DID YOU BUG IT? if you dont bug it your shooting yourself in the foot. BUG
IT EVERY time you play.

Cethan
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Honeyman <slasher@...>
To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Unearned Faction


> From: Ryan Honeyman <slasher@...>
>
> >I think this Verant's punishment/reward for passive neglect...
> >you were there when a poor knoll pup was cruelly killed and did
> >not try to stop the attack, therefore you are as guilty as the
> >actual murder.
>
> What am I supposed to do? Taunt the player off the pup?
> You cannot directly affect any NPCs in the game, so standing
> by without taking action is your only recourse. Unless you
> want to duel the person over it.
>
> Here is the problem. I'm getting really tired of eating other
> people's faction. And I'm not talking about gnolls. Yesterday
> some idiot necromancer kited one of those Barbarian Villagers
> by my party near T3. I'm singing Clarity, so somehow I must be
> helping someone, somewhere. I take faction hits from that kiter's
> kill. I really like Halas, and I never kill barbarians. So I
> immediately cruised into Blackburrow for a stack of gnoll teeth
> to turn into the Pit of Doom.
>
> People don't realize that faction adjustments are a _HUGE_ part
> of what you can and cannot do in this game. For example, if you
> are ever considering wiping out Holly Windstalker or Cros Treewind
> because they /con blue and you are bored, you had beter think again.
> The faction adjustments those two carry alone, will make you KOS
> in 3 or 4 cities... instantly, one kill, and blam.
>
> For those of you in beta that saw the numeric adjustments, you know
> what I mean. In beta, if you kill a gnoll pup you got +1 to the
> guards of qeynos. However, if you killed a good guard you got -50
> to the guards of qeynos. You would have to kill 50 gnolls to make
> up for one qeynos guard. So factions vary in intensity everywhere,
> which doesn't click with a lot of people. They see one message, and
> think they've taken -1 or +1 hit.
>
> I'm still not sure how we get unearned faction, when clearly we
> havent assisted another player in any other way. This ties in
> with 'Bard Hate' if you think about it. The game must have thought
> I did something to earn the faction, thus I must have triggered
> something in the monster to irritate them. If this was a real
> monster, and not a Barbarian NPC, I bet it would have turned on me.
>
> Harmonic Distortion, 37th 'You have slain an ice giant'.
> League of Antonican Bards, The Wind Spirit's Song
> < Keepers of Norrath > Innoruuk
>
>