> Your group is going to regret this decision at later levels.

Here we are again with the "later level" comments.

To me, anything over 20 *is* the later levels. If I
don't like a class by that point, I'm outta there. It
takes the average player a long time to get to 20 or
above. Why should they spend months unhappy just to
hope that one day things might be better? You don't
do it in real life given a choice, nor should you have
to in a game you're supposed to be playing to HAVE FUN
in.

If someone hates the way something works, very rarely
does "wait, it will get better" offer them any comfort
or reason to continue.

> change in the 30s.

Personally speaking, I'll have given up my bard long
before I ever come close to that level. It's already
starting to lose it's luster to me at 18. I keep,
believe it or not, 5 characters active. I've got a
bard, cleric, 2 shamen and a wizard. The bard was
the main one I used a while ago. See the trend after
that? All the other players I play have bind. If I
remember correctly, wasn't it you John that said (awhile
ago on this list) that if you started over you'd never
play a non-binding class again? (grin)

Anyway. I look at the spells that my binding classes
are going to get at the "later levels" and then I
look at the songs my non-binding bard is going to get
at those "later levels" and personally I'm not
impressed. Maybe it's just because I've never used
them before. *shrug* But that combined with not being
able to bind make the class that less interesting.