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Message ID: 8031
Date: Wed Oct 6 18:19:40 BST 1999
Author: David Knadler
Subject: RE: Bardic deaths


I have a couple of suggestions (some of which you may have been already
doing).

You and one of the tanks should probably pull. The rest of the group should
be positioned a good ways off. Using your "Lugubrious Lament" (lvl 8) song,
you should be able to "sadden" two of the bandits (this will be two less
that you have to deal with during the actual pull). As soon as you've
saddened the 2nd bandit, give a message to your tank buddy (preferably
someone with a ranged attack). They can then shoot their bow to pull the
rest of the bandits. If the pull goes bad, or if one of them resists your
Lament and you end up pulling the whole camp, fire up accelerando and lead
the whole troupe back to the zone (preferably away from your group). This
is much more time efficient that getting yourself and/or others in your
group killed.

Assuming you get a respectable pull (i.e. an amount of bandits that your
group can handle - you should have a pretty good idea of what you're capable
of), you and your tank buddy then lead them back to the waiting group. At
this point everyone in your group should /assist the primary puller. This
is very important. If there are a lot of extra MOBs, refrain from singing
songs that will attract unwanted attention to yourself (even if that means
you sing nothing until a couple of the bandits are dead). If you should
happen to get a lot of bandits on you, and it's apparent you won't live
through their onslaught, simply fire up accelerando and get the heck out of
there. Heck, just around in a large circle until the rest of the group is
ready to deal with the others.

I hope this helps

Desmei Sightblinder
Lvl 28 Bard (Povar)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie Furtner [mailto:jfurtner@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 4:32 PM
To: eqbards@onelist.com
Subject: [eqbards] Bardic deaths


From: Jamie Furtner <jfurtner@...>

I recently played with a party of six in West Karana, and we tried
to kill some bandits in the bandit camp. I'm interested in input
for how I can allow my more of party to survive a battle, including
myself.

Most of us were 11th Level, except for the Warrior, and the party
was comprised of:
2x Rangers
2x Bards (myself and another)
a Druid
A Warrior

We tried the camp a total of three times, some of us dying every time.
There were(I think) 5 bandits, all blue, except for one, which was yellow.
The first time I had the misfortune to be playing Hymn twisted with Anthem
from the beginning of the fight, and I ended up with three bandits on me
due, I
think to Hymn. Needless to say, I died. It was a fun run of shame back to
my body...

The second time we tried it, we were actually jumped -- a pair of
bandits running by started the fray, and the five from the camp
joined the fun. This time the other Bard was killed; he was playing
Hymn. When I noticed his health dropping rapidly, I told him to back
off, and he did, but the bandits didn't stop. Is there anything I could
have done to pull them off of him?

The third time, again there were 7 bandits. A ranger shot at a bandit
in the camp and those 5 ran at us, and two more running by at the same
time joined the fray. This time, I decided to use Discord, rather then Hymn
to try to do extra damage. I liked seeing 7 messages "a bandit winces"! But
once again, I managed to get the attention of a pair of bandits, and died.
I'd
asked the other Bard to play Elemental Rhythms, as there was a yellow bandit
caster in the camp. He died also, I'm really not sure why.

This time I grabbed my spare drum to make the run back a little faster.

Does anybody have any suggestions of how I could have survived the first and
last fight, and kept the rest of the party alive also?

Keep in mind that I'm only level 11 -- so I'm really not interested in
hearing about
songs that are higher levels(at least until I get there :).

All in all, I had fun, but it was a loosing night for me and experience.

Thank you
Jamie Furtner

Quies, 11th Song, Karana
-- Jamie Furtner jfurtner@...