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<b>Message ID:</b> 9059 <br/>
<b>Date:</b> Mon Oct 25 19:19:59 BST 1999 <br/>
<b>Author:</b> Kimes, Dean W. <br/>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Re: Re: BARD HATE <br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1709472552">A good thought, but unfortunately this will not prevent bard-hate.  I have<br/>
several times been attacked when our ranger pulled and I was singing no<br/>
songs, making no attacks.  The mob would just rush past the ranger and the<br/>
other group members and smack me.  This was back when we were attempting to<br/>
prevent my being the main focus of mobs.  Nowadays the cleric loves it when<br/>
I am around.  Normally he has to keep switching targets between the other<br/>
three tanks he groups with regularly because they take turns getting the<br/>
heck beat out of them.  When I&#39;m around he can just target me and happily<br/>
cast away.  None of the other tanks ever get below 2 bubbles despite being<br/>
lower level with armor classes 100 points lower.  I usually end up with all<br/>
the mobs concentrating on me.<br/>
<br/>
I have a new good example of bard hate.  I am standing still with a trade<br/>
window open singing no songs on the hill near the derv camp.  A ranger<br/>
shoots the lead derv with his bow from out in the plains area.  The derv<br/>
rushes forward, stops and runs over and backstabs me despite my not even<br/>
being in the rangers group, nor in the mobs aggro radius.  If someone can<br/>
explain that away to normal mob dynamics I&#39;d love to hear it.<br/>
<br/>
	Kitasi<br/>
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-----Original Message-----<br/>
From: David Knadler [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:dknadler@...">dknadler@...</a>]<br/>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 12:11 PM<br/>
To: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:eqbards@onelist.com">eqbards@onelist.com</a><br/>
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Re: Re: BARD HATE<br/>
Importance: Low<br/>
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From: David Knadler &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:dknadler@...">dknadler@...</a>&gt;<br/>
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[snip]<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; The main reason the Hag went for you was not because you were <br/>
&gt; a Bard, but<br/>
&gt; because you were buffing everyone in your party.<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>Yes.. this is precisely what is causing it.   The reason bards seem to be in<br/>
a lot of these situations is because they&#39;re usually constantly buffing<br/>
everyone all the time.  For an experiment, pull something w/o singing any<br/>
songs.  Have any nearby caster buff anyone in the party just as the MOB is<br/>
coming into range.  Chances are the MOB will bee-line towards the caster (I<br/>
just saw this multiple times lastnight when a druid would buff damage<br/>
shields at the beginning of a pull - the MOB invariably went straight at the<br/>
druid)<br/>
<br/>
Desmei Sightblinder<br/>
Lvl 30 (still) Bard [Povar]<br/>
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