I'd even put the Shin Gauntlets above the elf-hide gloves, but only if your
agility and dexterity are already over 101 like mine. I thought I posted
the test results on Dodge that I did to the list, but will see if I still
have them at home. Basically increases in agility showed definite increases
in successful Dodges up to 101, after that the rate of obvious change slowed
from 5 point breaks to 10-20 point breaks. I only tested from 70 - 145
agility values as that was the range I had access to at the time. The tests
on Parry and riposte were not helpful to us but showed similar tendencies.
There was overall a 30% difference between 101 and 70 agility in successful
dodges as I recall from memory. 145 showed only a further increase of 15%
over 101. There was a point in there where the agility multiplier for ac
went up significantly after 101, but it was fairly high, 131 I think.

Kitasi

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Musson [mailto:oblivious_the_mighty_confused@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 1:53 PM
To: eqbards@onelist.com
Subject: [eqbards] Re: AC Dilemma

From: Chris Musson <oblivious_the_mighty_confused@...>

As far as getting the lambent components, I try to group with people higher
lvl
than me (as i can still be useful for buffing and minor melee damage) if
they
have an opening. Or, yes, just hang out and try to get to loot someone
eles's
kill. (i got the black silk gloves myself, but i was grouped with people
higher lvl than me. 28, 28, 27, 25, 24, and then me at 23)

As far as the gloves go:
Snakeskin Gloves: AC 4, +3 Dex
Elf Hide Gloves: AC 4, +5 Dex, +5 Agi.
Lambent Gauntlets: AC 12, +5 Dex, +1 Cha

[I apologize in advance for bringing up the dreaded Agility argument...]
Obviously, the Elf Hide are better than Snakeskin, but based on the
statistical
evidence i have seen, they are not ALOT better (this is subjective, mind
you)
and VASTLY inferior to the Lambent. The only effect that agility has, based
on
the tests i have seen, is a minor increase in AC (1 AC for every 5 AGI
roughly,
though there are breakpoints [notably, agi 74 to agi 75] where it can do
more)
There have been rumors that Agility effects dodge, parry, riposte, etc, but
I
have never seen any hard evidence of this. Based on the evidence I have
seen,
the Elf Hide gloves could just as easily say: AC 5, +5 Dex (while this is
better than Snakeskin, it may or may not be worth the associated cost...I do
not have a single plat that i can throw away, so the Elf Hide are just not
worth it.). If anyone has any _HARD_NUMERICAL_EVIDENCE_ showing what effect
Agility has besides 1 ac from 5 agility I would love to see it.

Kaleid (err...still no last name)
23rd Song
Fighting tombstones in Mistmoore
<Wave of the Dark Tide>
Prexus

PS- I actually saw someone trying to KITE in Mistmoore. (around the lake in
the first courtyard) It was one of the scariest/dumbest things i have ever
seen. They died.

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adultery. Don't eat pork."
I'm sorry, what was that last one? Don't eat pork? God has spoken. Is that
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