--- title: Hiring and judging character #feed_description: author: Issa Rice creation_date: 2015-06-21 last_major_revision_date: 2015-06-21 language: English status: notes # accepts "CC0", "CC-BY", or "CC-BY-SA" license: CC-BY tags: judging, character, hiring, Yishan Wong, talent #aliases: --- - [We Can’t \(Simply\) Buy Capacity](http://blog.givewell.org/2013/08/29/we-cant-simply-buy-capacity/) - the connection between hiring people for a job and judging the character of people fascinates me (e.g. for finding good friends, or for romantic relationships). - both are clearly important: you need to hire people to get tasks done, and you want to find good friends/partner(s) - both can take quite a bit of commitment to accurately judge - both can end disastrously (due diligence) - in both scenarios, there can be multiple people doing the judging, so there can be some gossip among those "in the know" - sometimes it can be *really hard* to tell the difference between someone who is an *extremely* good fit, and someone who is a terrible fit. - [How do you distinguish 10X software engineers from the rest?](https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-distinguish-10X-software-engineers-from-the-rest) - Yishan Wong: > Look to referrals of referrals. Look for the best person > according to the best person according to the best person you > know (yes, that's two levels). If there is consensus among > several of your best people, this is a fairly reliable > indicator. It is difficult to go more than 3x per "link" > though - people are typically unable to discern the difference > between someone 9x as good as they are from someone who is 3x > as good as they are; this is why you have to do the "best > person you know" referral twice. First, you hire all the best > people you know, work with them for awhile to find the best > amongst them, and then find all the best people *they* know. > It is a multiple-stage approach; many people don't know this, > and just assume that "refer the best people you know" is the > end of it. Similarly, stalking someone's friends might be useful if you want to determine their character. - many more Quora questions about judging character (many by Alex): - [How to evaluate someone's ability to be an exceptional judge of character](https://www.quora.com/Judging-Character/How-do-you-evaluate-someones-ability-to-be-an-exceptional-judge-of-character) - [Is Elon Musk an exceptional judge of character/talent?](https://www.quora.com/Is-Elon-Musk-an-exceptional-judge-of-character-talent) - [How can you become a good judge of character?](https://www.quora.com/How-can-you-become-a-good-judge-of-character) - [How do you judge people's character?](https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-judge-peoples-character) - decent answer: [Sridatta Thatipamala's answer to How can you become a good judge of character?](https://www.quora.com/How-can-you-become-a-good-judge-of-character/answer/Sridatta-Thatipamala) - [How do I judge the character of a lady/girl?](https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-judge-the-character-of-a-lady-girl) - observing ppl under stress might be important - one important question: does the person have the same life goals as me? - "Are you at peace with your past romantic partners? Do you feel at peace with their joys though the joys may be mutually shared no longer?" ([source](https://www.quora.com/What-single-question-would-you-ask-someone-if-you-were-trying-to-find-out-if-they-are-a-good-person/answer/Chantal-Murthy-1)) - Yishan Wong([source](https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-way-to-indicate-in-a-job-posting-that-youre-looking-for-10x-or-ninja-type-people/answer/Yishan-Wong)): > the lesson here is that sometimes "10x people" are so good that > they don't really look for jobs in the same way other people do, > so you kind of have to find them via unorthodox means [...] [Y]ou > often have to make your job posting indicate a bit of quirkiness > in just the right way so that it happens to stick out to them when > they're casual perusing job ads > > [...] > > the main idea is to visualize the personality and character of the > type of people you want to hire, and then put a message out > publicly that only those types of people will respond to or > provide a correct answer to. - GiveWell has [The process of hiring our first cause-specific Program Officer](http://blog.givewell.org/2015/09/03/the-process-of-hiring-our-first-cause-specific-program-officer/). Talking about senior hiring, they list some general principles: > - The best way to evaluate someone is to work with them. The ideal way > to make a senior hire would be to have a longstanding relationship > with someone, perhaps as a part-time consulting arrangement. > - Interviews are highly unreliable. The evaluation process should be > designed as much as possible to mimic working together. > - References are extremely important, and it can be useful to talk to > many people about the candidate (including people who weren’t > specifically offered as references). Also: > When a candidate didn’t mention a major aspect of the criminal > justice reform field, we would ask about it and see whether they > were omitting it because they (a) had strong knowledge of it and > were making a considered decision to de-prioritize this aspect of > the field; (b) didn’t have much experience or knowledge of this > area of the field. (So the general lesson here might be "do your homework" before trying to hire people.) - [Why Not To Break Up With Friends](http://www.jimterry.net/blog/why-not-to-break-up-with-friends/)