From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 06:38:04 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F01648C.17B8F9EB@rcn.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1057055885 33966512 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 1208 Lines: 42 "WB3FUP (Mike Hall)" wrote: > > Proof that men are sensitive > > A woman meets a gorgeous man in a bar. They talk, > they connect, and they > end up leaving together. > > They get back to his place, and as he shows her > around his apartment, > she notices that his bedroom is completely packed > with sweet cuddly > teddy bears. Hundreds of cute small bears on a > shelf all the way along the > floor, cuddly medium sized ones on a shelf a > little higher, and HUGE enormous bears on the top > shelf along the wall. > > The woman is surprised that this guy would have a > collection of teddy > bears, especially one that is so extensive, but > she decides not to > mention this to him, & is actually quite impressed > by his sensitive side. She turns to him... they > kiss......... > and then rip each others clothes off and make > hot steamy love. > > After an intense night of passion with this > sensitive guy, they are > lying there together in the afterglow, the woman > rolls over and asks smiling, > > "Well, how was it?" > The guy says:... > "Help yourself to any prize from the bottom > shelf". > Oh, that is bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Jean B., 12 miles west of Boston, Massachusetts, USA From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Bigbazza" Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus References: Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:41:17 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.164.51.236 X-Trace: 1057056082 5434 203.164.51.236 Status: O Content-Length: 1316 Lines: 54 "WB3FUP (Mike Hall)" wrote in message news:bdrmi0$v93ht$1@ID-134747.news.dfncis.de... > Proof that men are sensitive > > A woman meets a gorgeous man in a bar. They talk, > they connect, and they > end up leaving together. > > They get back to his place, and as he shows her > around his apartment, > she notices that his bedroom is completely packed > with sweet cuddly > teddy bears. Hundreds of cute small bears on a > shelf all the way along the > floor, cuddly medium sized ones on a shelf a > little higher, and HUGE enormous bears on the top > shelf along the wall. > > The woman is surprised that this guy would have a > collection of teddy > bears, especially one that is so extensive, but > she decides not to > mention this to him, & is actually quite impressed > by his sensitive side. She turns to him... they > kiss......... > and then rip each others clothes off and make > hot steamy love. > > After an intense night of passion with this > sensitive guy, they are > lying there together in the afterglow, the woman > rolls over and asks smiling, > > "Well, how was it?" > The guy says:... > "Help yourself to any prize from the bottom > shelf". > > > > -- > 73 es cul > > wb3fup > a Salty Bear Now THIS should bring SOME comment from the Ladies........ Bigbazza(Barry) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Cybe R. Wizard" Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:46:45 -0500 Organization: Interdementia-al Consortium of Wizardly Dudes Message-ID: <20030701124645.59b8ca48.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ab.4b.e7.a5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 1 Jul 2003 17:43:43 GMT X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.0claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) User-Agent: Sylpheed-claws Status: O Content-Length: 1847 Lines: 64 On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:18:33 GMT Wolfie wrote: > In article <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, no spam > says... > > > > > >"WB3FUP (Mike Hall)" wrote in message > >news:bdrmi0$v93ht$1@ID-134747.news.dfncis.de... > >> Proof that men are sensitive > >> > >> A woman meets a gorgeous man in a bar. They talk, > >> they connect, and they > >> end up leaving together. > >> > >> They get back to his place, and as he shows her > >> around his apartment, > >> she notices that his bedroom is completely packed > >> with sweet cuddly > >> teddy bears. Hundreds of cute small bears on a > >> shelf all the way along the > >> floor, cuddly medium sized ones on a shelf a > >> little higher, and HUGE enormous bears on the top > >> shelf along the wall. > >> > >> The woman is surprised that this guy would have a > >> collection of teddy > >> bears, especially one that is so extensive, but > >> she decides not to > >> mention this to him, & is actually quite impressed > >> by his sensitive side. She turns to him... they > >> kiss......... > >> and then rip each others clothes off and make > >> hot steamy love. > >> > >> After an intense night of passion with this > >> sensitive guy, they are > >> lying there together in the afterglow, the woman > >> rolls over and asks smiling, > >> > >> "Well, how was it?" > >> The guy says:... > >> "Help yourself to any prize from the bottom > >> shelf". > > > >Now THIS should bring SOME comment from the Ladies........ > > > >Bigbazza(Barry) > > > > > > > Sure...AFTER the customary explanations. > > Peace, Wolfie > Betcha there's no comments from the /top/ shelf ladies! Cybe R. Wizard -- Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P. Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P. "Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y. Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus From: Wolfie References: <20030701124645.59b8ca48.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 17:07:59 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 21:07:59 GMT Status: O Content-Length: 1569 Lines: 49 In article <20030701124645.59b8ca48.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com>, Cybe R. Wizard says... Proof that men are sensitive A woman meets a gorgeous man in a bar. They talk, they connect, and they end up leaving together. They get back to his place, and as he shows her around his apartment, she notices that his bedroom is completely packed with sweet cuddly teddy bears. Hundreds of cute small bears on a shelf all the way along the floor, cuddly medium sized ones on a shelf a little higher, and HUGE enormous bears on the top shelf along the wall. The woman is surprised that this guy would have a collection of teddy bears, especially one that is so extensive, but she decides not to mention this to him, & is actually quite impressed by his sensitive side. She turns to him... they kiss......... and then rip each others clothes off and make hot steamy love. After an intense night of passion with this sensitive guy, they are lying there together in the afterglow, the woman rolls over and asks smiling, "Well, how was it?" The guy says:... "Help yourself to any prize from the bottom shelf". Now THIS should bring SOME comment from the Ladies........ Bigbazza(Barry) Sure...AFTER the customary explanations. Peace, Wolfie Betcha there's no comments from the /top/ shelf ladies! Cybe R. Wizard -- Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P. Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P. "Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y. Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L Should be at least an "Oh MY GOD!!" if you give as good as you get. Peace, B.B.(Oh MY GOD!!) Wolfe From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 03:02:17 GMT Message-ID: <3f024b24.6490266@news.cis.dfn.de> References: <3F01648C.17B8F9EB@rcn.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.87.45.117 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1057114939 34377116 203.87.45.117 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1356 Lines: 47 On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 06:38:04 -0400, "Jean B." wrote: >"WB3FUP (Mike Hall)" wrote: >> >> Proof that men are sensitive >> >> A woman meets a gorgeous man in a bar. They talk, >> they connect, and they >> end up leaving together. >> >> They get back to his place, and as he shows her >> around his apartment, >> she notices that his bedroom is completely packed >> with sweet cuddly >> teddy bears. Hundreds of cute small bears on a >> shelf all the way along the >> floor, cuddly medium sized ones on a shelf a >> little higher, and HUGE enormous bears on the top >> shelf along the wall. >> >> The woman is surprised that this guy would have a >> collection of teddy >> bears, especially one that is so extensive, but >> she decides not to >> mention this to him, & is actually quite impressed >> by his sensitive side. She turns to him... they >> kiss......... >> and then rip each others clothes off and make >> hot steamy love. >> >> After an intense night of passion with this >> sensitive guy, they are >> lying there together in the afterglow, the woman >> rolls over and asks smiling, >> >> "Well, how was it?" >> The guy says:... >> "Help yourself to any prize from the bottom >> shelf". >> >Oh, that is bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But veeeeerrrry interesting >-- >Jean B., 12 miles west of Boston, Massachusetts, USA From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Buff" Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.220.206.68 Message-ID: <3f02609e@news.comindico.com.au> X-Original-Trace: 2 Jul 2003 14:33:34 +1000, 203.220.206.68 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 04:33:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.194.27.1 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comindico.com.au X-Trace: news.optus.net.au 1057120416 203.194.27.1 (Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:33:36 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:33:36 EST Organization: Comindico Australia - reports relating to abuse should be sent to abuse@comindico.com.au Status: O Content-Length: 1847 Lines: 73 "Wolfie" wrote in message news:t_eMa.6008$cJ5.560@www.newsranger.com... > In article <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, no spam says... > > > > > >"WB3FUP (Mike Hall)" wrote in message > >news:bdrmi0$v93ht$1@ID-134747.news.dfncis.de... > >> Proof that men are sensitive > >> > >> A woman meets a gorgeous man in a bar. They talk, > >> they connect, and they > >> end up leaving together. > >> > >> They get back to his place, and as he shows her > >> around his apartment, > >> she notices that his bedroom is completely packed > >> with sweet cuddly > >> teddy bears. Hundreds of cute small bears on a > >> shelf all the way along the > >> floor, cuddly medium sized ones on a shelf a > >> little higher, and HUGE enormous bears on the top > >> shelf along the wall. > >> > >> The woman is surprised that this guy would have a > >> collection of teddy > >> bears, especially one that is so extensive, but > >> she decides not to > >> mention this to him, & is actually quite impressed > >> by his sensitive side. She turns to him... they > >> kiss......... > >> and then rip each others clothes off and make > >> hot steamy love. > >> > >> After an intense night of passion with this > >> sensitive guy, they are > >> lying there together in the afterglow, the woman > >> rolls over and asks smiling, > >> > >> "Well, how was it?" > >> The guy says:... > >> "Help yourself to any prize from the bottom > >> shelf". > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> 73 es cul > >> > >> wb3fup > >> a Salty Bear > > > > > >Now THIS should bring SOME comment from the Ladies........ > > > >Bigbazza(Barry) > > > > > > > Sure...AFTER the customary explanations. > > Peace, Wolfie BLAAAAAHHHHTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Buff - buffmcmenis@dodo.com.au http://www.angelfire.com/folk/buff buff646@hotmail.com From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Cybe R. Wizard" Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 07:37:15 -0500 Organization: Interdementia-al Consortium of Wizardly Dudes Message-ID: <20030703073715.7b35ccca.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> References: <3t68gvs2sq85dso2eqeqkqlpf8itq922hk@4ax.com> <3f041fd9$1@news.comindico.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 43.1c.58.67 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 3 Jul 2003 12:33:20 GMT X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.0claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) User-Agent: Sylpheed-claws Status: O Content-Length: 816 Lines: 35 On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:21:46 GMT "Buff" wrote: > Bob wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 06:07:57 -0400, "WB3FUP \(Mike Hall\)" > > wrote: snip > >> > >> "Well, how was it?" > >> The guy says:... > >> "Help yourself to any prize from the bottom > >> shelf". > > > > > > My wife's got a collection of Teddy Bears .. quite a large > > collection.. didn't give her any of them ... > > > > Bob > > Now, I think I'd be raising my eyebrows a little ... just a weeny > little bit... about where she got those bears if'n I'd read that post > ... > > Buff - I was going to pointedly ignore it. Cybe R. Wizard -- Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P. Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P. "Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y. Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-jensen,alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Ever wonder how to keep an idiot busy, Bob? Try this. Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 09:01:54 -0500 Message-ID: <38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66-90-145-216.grandecom.net (66.90.145.216) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1057413712 1877668 66.90.145.216 (16 [4412]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Status: O Content-Length: 360 Lines: 14 I got this over on alt.misc.friends. They have lots more if you would like to come by and say hello. http://www.pagetutor.com/idiot/idiot.html Keep me busy for some time but then Rosa said I had to go out and mow the lawn anyway. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: gina39d@yahoo.com (toci) Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-jensen,alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ever wonder how to keep an idiot busy, Bob? Try this. Date: 5 Jul 2003 14:17:15 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <52a6abdc.0307051317.4ab50b00@posting.google.com> References: <38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.109.220.93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1057439836 26100 127.0.0.1 (5 Jul 2003 21:17:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jul 2003 21:17:16 GMT Status: O Content-Length: 555 Lines: 16 Eugene A. Calame wrote in message news:<38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com>... > I got this over on alt.misc.friends. They have lots more if you would like to > come by and say hello. > > http://www.pagetutor.com/idiot/idiot.html > > Keep me busy for some time but then Rosa said I had to go out and mow the lawn > anyway. > > > -- > Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com > Austin, Texas USA > > Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends Moron here. I only went about five seconds. Toci From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Oh Well" Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-jensen,alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ever wonder how to keep an idiot busy, Bob? Try this. Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 05:20:27 -0500 Organization: Sprint Advanced Network Services Message-ID: References: <38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.109.105.54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.utelfla.com 1057486855 12863 63.109.105.54 (6 Jul 2003 10:20:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.utelfla.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 10:20:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Status: O Content-Length: 535 Lines: 21 Worked for me : ) Eugene A. Calame wrote in message = news:38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com... | I got this over on alt.misc.friends. They have lots more if you would = like to | come by and say hello. |=20 | http://www.pagetutor.com/idiot/idiot.html |=20 | Keep me busy for some time but then Rosa said I had to go out and mow = the lawn | anyway. |=20 |=20 | -- =20 | Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com | Austin, Texas USA =20 |=20 | Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Robert Thomas" From: "Robert Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-jensen,alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus References: <38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Ever wonder how to keep an idiot busy, Bob? Try this. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 12:55:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.4.25.240 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1057496113 67.4.25.240 (Sun, 06 Jul 2003 05:55:13 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 05:55:13 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 322 Lines: 16 "Eugene A. Calame" wrote in message news:38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com... > I got this over on alt.misc.friends. They have lots more if you would like to > come by and say hello. > > http://www.pagetutor.com/idiot/idiot.html > I'd've responded sooner, but I've been busy. grin bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F084001.50956E8B@bellsouth.net> From: Shirley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-jensen,alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ever wonder how to keep an idiot busy, Bob? Try this. References: <38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 11:28:11 EDT Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 11:28:01 -0400 Status: O Content-Length: 457 Lines: 22 "Eugene A. Calame" wrote: > I got this over on alt.misc.friends. They have lots more if you would like to > come by and say hello. > > http://www.pagetutor.com/idiot/idiot.html > > Keep me busy for some time but then Rosa said I had to go out and mow the lawn > anyway. > > -- > Eugene A. 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References: <38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:24:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.66.94.143 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1058045099 24.66.94.143 (Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:24:59 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:24:59 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Status: O Content-Length: 608 Lines: 24 Hello, Oh Well. Nice to meet you. L.B. Oh Well wrote: > Worked for me : ) > > Eugene A. Calame wrote in message news:38mdgv8fu5j6fljhgsm89vbvur3a1gc9ov@4ax.com... > | I got this over on alt.misc.friends. They have lots more if you would like to > | come by and say hello. > | > | http://www.pagetutor.com/idiot/idiot.html > | > | Keep me busy for some time but then Rosa said I had to go out and mow the lawn > | anyway. > | > | > | -- > | Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com > | Austin, Texas USA > | > | Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Old Codger" Newsgroups: alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Away we go! Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:01:18 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1989 Lines: 40 My bitter-half is busy packing a few bags and selecting clothes I'm to hang in the back of the Suburban in awhile as we prepare to depart early tomorrow morning for Nashville, TN. One of our ex-son-in-laws is driving from Winston-Salem, NC to Nashville to deliver our baby grand-daughter to us Saturday. She was 16 years old last month (going on 25) and we invited her to spend about ten days with us. Her four siblings are all gone from home now so we figured she could use some spoiling this summer, her first without siblings. We're then going IL to visit a friend who has two days of antiquing planned for us. Usually we try to visit him in the Fall when it's cooler to do some antiquing and visit wineries in both IL and MO. This time, we'll visit the MO winery w/o him but suspect he'll ask us to tote a case or two to TX for him. We'll antique our way across MO and then drop south just inside OK and then antique our way home to North Central Texas. Hopefully, the teenager won't be too bored. When we get home, our grand-urchins in Foat Wuth will also come to our house (girl 17; boy 13). The two girls are going to join their Gma and torment me and the grandson endlessly I'm sure. I've promised to have them at Six Flags in Arlington, TX one day when it opens and pick them up when it closes. It's a long drive for us to Six Flags but we need to spoil them! Of course, the peace and quiet while they're at Six Flags is a reward unto itself... We'll fly the 16 year old home the end of the month. If we're recovered by then, we have 6 and 16 year old grandsons in NM we'll visit in August. The older five grandkids are on their own now so we see them when they come to visit us at our home. My bitter-half and I both use canes now so packing and toting bags can be an adventure! Old age ain't for sissies! We're determined to wear out rather than rust out! Old Codger = = = Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened! = = = From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F184959.1030905@aol.com> From: Dar Reply-To: d1simpson@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Away we go! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.211.19.119 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1058556249 12.211.19.119 (Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:24:09 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:24:09 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:24:09 GMT Status: O Content-Length: 2458 Lines: 54 I envy you the antiquing! Haven't done that on any big scale since my husband passed away. Not as much fun alone! As to having the grandkids ... hope they don't wear you out! My 14 year old g'son lives next door and that's fun ... I can send him home if he gets too rambunctious! :) Old Codger wrote: > My bitter-half is busy packing a few bags and selecting clothes I'm to hang > in the back of the Suburban in awhile as we prepare to depart early tomorrow > morning for Nashville, TN. One of our ex-son-in-laws is driving from > Winston-Salem, NC to Nashville to deliver our baby grand-daughter to us > Saturday. She was 16 years old last month (going on 25) and we invited her > to spend about ten days with us. Her four siblings are all gone from home > now so we figured she could use some spoiling this summer, her first without > siblings. > > We're then going IL to visit a friend who has two days of antiquing planned > for us. Usually we try to visit him in the Fall when it's cooler to do some > antiquing and visit wineries in both IL and MO. This time, we'll visit the > MO winery w/o him but suspect he'll ask us to tote a case or two to TX for > him. We'll antique our way across MO and then drop south just inside OK and > then antique our way home to North Central Texas. Hopefully, the teenager > won't be too bored. > > When we get home, our grand-urchins in Foat Wuth will also come to our house > (girl 17; boy 13). The two girls are going to join their Gma and torment me > and the grandson endlessly I'm sure. I've promised to have them at Six > Flags in Arlington, TX one day when it opens and pick them up when it > closes. It's a long drive for us to Six Flags but we need to spoil them! > Of course, the peace and quiet while they're at Six Flags is a reward unto > itself... We'll fly the 16 year old home the end of the month. > > If we're recovered by then, we have 6 and 16 year old grandsons in NM we'll > visit in August. The older five grandkids are on their own now so we see > them when they come to visit us at our home. > > My bitter-half and I both use canes now so packing and toting bags can be an > adventure! Old age ain't for sissies! We're determined to wear out rather > than rust out! > > Old Codger > = = = > Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened! > = = = > > > -- ______________________________________________________ Dar -- Vancouver, WA From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.66.53.97 Message-ID: <3F184DF4.9000305@shaw.ca> From: g beaudin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Away we go! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:40:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.66.94.143 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1058557242 24.66.94.143 (Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:40:42 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:40:42 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Status: O Content-Length: 2126 Lines: 46 Hope you have a good time, OC! L.B. Old Codger wrote: > My bitter-half is busy packing a few bags and selecting clothes I'm to hang > in the back of the Suburban in awhile as we prepare to depart early tomorrow > morning for Nashville, TN. One of our ex-son-in-laws is driving from > Winston-Salem, NC to Nashville to deliver our baby grand-daughter to us > Saturday. She was 16 years old last month (going on 25) and we invited her > to spend about ten days with us. Her four siblings are all gone from home > now so we figured she could use some spoiling this summer, her first without > siblings. > > We're then going IL to visit a friend who has two days of antiquing planned > for us. Usually we try to visit him in the Fall when it's cooler to do some > antiquing and visit wineries in both IL and MO. This time, we'll visit the > MO winery w/o him but suspect he'll ask us to tote a case or two to TX for > him. We'll antique our way across MO and then drop south just inside OK and > then antique our way home to North Central Texas. Hopefully, the teenager > won't be too bored. > > When we get home, our grand-urchins in Foat Wuth will also come to our house > (girl 17; boy 13). The two girls are going to join their Gma and torment me > and the grandson endlessly I'm sure. I've promised to have them at Six > Flags in Arlington, TX one day when it opens and pick them up when it > closes. It's a long drive for us to Six Flags but we need to spoil them! > Of course, the peace and quiet while they're at Six Flags is a reward unto > itself... We'll fly the 16 year old home the end of the month. > > If we're recovered by then, we have 6 and 16 year old grandsons in NM we'll > visit in August. The older five grandkids are on their own now so we see > them when they come to visit us at our home. > > My bitter-half and I both use canes now so packing and toting bags can be an > adventure! Old age ain't for sissies! We're determined to wear out rather > than rust out! > > Old Codger > = = = > Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened! > = = = > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "WB3FUP \(Mike Hall\)" Newsgroups: alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Away we go! Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:25:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3F184959.1030905@aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.24.217.132.dial1.philadelphia1.level3.net (67.24.217.132) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1058574309 13286450 67.24.217.132 (16 [134747]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 3136 Lines: 105 Just remember boy children age 13 and above have the brain switch moved from "on" to "OFF". I have not figured out why God does this, but She does. Have been involved in scouting for many years, and without exception at age 13, give or take a month or two, God reaches down inside the youthful head and moves the switch. My ex, who was also very active in scouting, agrees with me on the action and the age. Her only comment is, "It never seems to move back to on." -- 73 es cul wb3fup a Salty Bear "Dar" wrote in message news:3F184959.1030905@aol.com... > I envy you the antiquing! Haven't done that on any big scale since my > husband passed away. Not as much fun alone! > > As to having the grandkids ... hope they don't wear you out! My 14 year > old g'son lives next door and that's fun ... I can send him home if he > gets too rambunctious! :) > > Old Codger wrote: > > My bitter-half is busy packing a few bags and selecting clothes I'm to hang > > in the back of the Suburban in awhile as we prepare to depart early tomorrow > > morning for Nashville, TN. One of our ex-son-in-laws is driving from > > Winston-Salem, NC to Nashville to deliver our baby grand-daughter to us > > Saturday. She was 16 years old last month (going on 25) and we invited her > > to spend about ten days with us. Her four siblings are all gone from home > > now so we figured she could use some spoiling this summer, her first without > > siblings. > > > > We're then going IL to visit a friend who has two days of antiquing planned > > for us. Usually we try to visit him in the Fall when it's cooler to do some > > antiquing and visit wineries in both IL and MO. This time, we'll visit the > > MO winery w/o him but suspect he'll ask us to tote a case or two to TX for > > him. We'll antique our way across MO and then drop south just inside OK and > > then antique our way home to North Central Texas. Hopefully, the teenager > > won't be too bored. > > > > When we get home, our grand-urchins in Foat Wuth will also come to our house > > (girl 17; boy 13). The two girls are going to join their Gma and torment me > > and the grandson endlessly I'm sure. I've promised to have them at Six > > Flags in Arlington, TX one day when it opens and pick them up when it > > closes. It's a long drive for us to Six Flags but we need to spoil them! > > Of course, the peace and quiet while they're at Six Flags is a reward unto > > itself... We'll fly the 16 year old home the end of the month. > > > > If we're recovered by then, we have 6 and 16 year old grandsons in NM we'll > > visit in August. The older five grandkids are on their own now so we see > > them when they come to visit us at our home. > > > > My bitter-half and I both use canes now so packing and toting bags can be an > > adventure! Old age ain't for sissies! We're determined to wear out rather > > than rust out! > > > > Old Codger > > = = = > > Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened! > > = = = > > > > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ ____ > Dar -- Vancouver, WA > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:35:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3F1A0E16.C4C9A6E6@null.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:35:50 -0400 From: The Wizard of Oz Reply-To: wiz301@null.net Organization: abuse@wiz.mailshell.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.friends,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Away we go! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.59.241.118 X-Trace: sv3-kxmoDoZN8lTxVL0P57AqutF6PSNTGNjPkK/Mb75GEANVJxCVy2lgqttQcBJGAAoS+lpeYkJHrfWSbW+!SJg5FT2zc0Anu2ptduR8nCA8UuHDd9zTdrAWjt2gfDeeVUEct7o= X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Status: O Content-Length: 3831 Lines: 75 Man oh man, I wish I'd known about that a little earlier, I live only 2.5 hours from Nashville, and could have driven up to meet you, also. Sounds like quite an excursion ahead of you! My mom has taken her life by the horns as well, now. She had my younger brother's son down for a week to attend a local tennis camp a couple of weeks ago. They live just outside of Nashville, so it isn't too far to go to send him home if it gets to be much trouble, but he's always a perfect gentleman around us, even calling me "Sir!" (Now *THAT"S* scary!) She is taking "Aerobics for Seniors" at a local seniors club 3 times a week, and quilting on Tuesdays. On Thursdays, she has a lady come in to clean house for her, and on Sundays she gets up early to be at church at 8am with me, so she only gets to sleep in on Saturday mornings, getting up at the late hour of 8am! She usually has me come over at 9am on Saturdays for breakfast, then yard work, during which she keeps me supplied with cold water and lemonade. She may do some traveling after she gets all the paperwork caught up on the death of my father, but it seems to be never-ending! More forms in the mail every day! Age is just a state of mind, she says, and she's as active as a woman 20 years younger than her 80 years. Just 7 months ago she was in a wheelchair, unable to walk without pain, after messing up one of her hips trying to push my dad in a wheel chair on the thick carpeting in their house. Now she's going strong, and getting better every day. Keep it up, OC, and you and the missus will out live your kids! Old Codger wrote: > > My bitter-half is busy packing a few bags and selecting clothes I'm to hang > in the back of the Suburban in awhile as we prepare to depart early tomorrow > morning for Nashville, TN. One of our ex-son-in-laws is driving from > Winston-Salem, NC to Nashville to deliver our baby grand-daughter to us > Saturday. She was 16 years old last month (going on 25) and we invited her > to spend about ten days with us. Her four siblings are all gone from home > now so we figured she could use some spoiling this summer, her first without > siblings. > > We're then going IL to visit a friend who has two days of antiquing planned > for us. Usually we try to visit him in the Fall when it's cooler to do some > antiquing and visit wineries in both IL and MO. This time, we'll visit the > MO winery w/o him but suspect he'll ask us to tote a case or two to TX for > him. We'll antique our way across MO and then drop south just inside OK and > then antique our way home to North Central Texas. Hopefully, the teenager > won't be too bored. > > When we get home, our grand-urchins in Foat Wuth will also come to our house > (girl 17; boy 13). The two girls are going to join their Gma and torment me > and the grandson endlessly I'm sure. I've promised to have them at Six > Flags in Arlington, TX one day when it opens and pick them up when it > closes. It's a long drive for us to Six Flags but we need to spoil them! > Of course, the peace and quiet while they're at Six Flags is a reward unto > itself... We'll fly the 16 year old home the end of the month. > > If we're recovered by then, we have 6 and 16 year old grandsons in NM we'll > visit in August. The older five grandkids are on their own now so we see > them when they come to visit us at our home. > > My bitter-half and I both use canes now so packing and toting bags can be an > adventure! Old age ain't for sissies! We're determined to wear out rather > than rust out! > > Old Codger > = = = > Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened! > = = = -- Regards, Wiz ICQ# 25567613 Yahoo!# wiz3012002 "The world is a comedy to those who think, And a tragedy to those who feel." .....Horace Walpole..... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:41:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059136899 18976665 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 225 Lines: 10 "Wolfie" wrote > Sure...AFTER the customary explanations. > Peace, Wolfie Wolfie, You just cross-posted into alt.sixtyplus. (I *thought* your name looked familiar. ) ---Sea, at 60+ ng From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:43:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20030725081017.1477c569.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059140613 19015522 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 615 Lines: 21 "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote > On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:41:23 -0400 > "~~seadancer~~" wrote: > > "Wolfie" wrote > > > Sure...AFTER the customary explanations. > > > Peace, Wolfie > > > > Wolfie, > > You just cross-posted into alt.sixtyplus. > > (I *thought* your name looked familiar. ) > > ---Sea, at 60+ ng > > > You sixtyplusers best start getting ready now. I'm getting older every > day... > Cybe R. Wizard I'm ready for ya, Cybe! LOL A-a-a-a-a-oooooooooo! ---Sea, at 60+ ng, howling for Wolfie, the Cyber Wizard... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:56:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3F21372F.B33F8F16@Anet-STL.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:57:03 -0500 From: Jim Everman Organization: OK... X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Followup-To: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20030725081017.1477c569.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.206.136.48 X-Trace: sv3-42rty61/+kS8YHQfr0qzE/z1/UO4VzjJCocmtz2IQSCSsrkqlY7YbL3ELq6KIiK1K2cn3UIbYeZrYMi!yiz/Tpo0q48c10qvsOXFOTz87ulAeX9d0II/qReaXkV20RWP2Go3fGBP3Z1WG0MLgfxW8eKM X-Complaints-To: abuse@accessus.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@accessus.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Status: O Content-Length: 249 Lines: 7 > ---Sea, at 60+ ng, howling for Wolfie, the Cyber Wizard... It would be courteous to set the follow-up to the group you read... -- Jim Everman mailto:everman@Anet-STL.com http://webusers.Anet-STL.com/~everman/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Cybe R. Wizard" Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:32:51 -0500 Organization: Interdementia-al Consortium of Wizardly Dudes Message-ID: <20030725093251.6ba0a73c.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20030725081017.1477c569.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ab.4b.e7.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 25 Jul 2003 14:32:04 GMT X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) User-Agent: Sylpheed-claws Status: O Content-Length: 844 Lines: 31 On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:43:16 -0400 "~~seadancer~~" wrote: > "Cybe wrote > > "~~seadancer~~" wrote: > > > "Wolfie" wrote > > > > Sure...AFTER the customary explanations. > > > > Peace, Wolfie > > > > > > Wolfie, > > > You just cross-posted into alt.sixtyplus. > > > (I *thought* your name looked familiar. ) > > > ---Sea, at 60+ ng > > > > > You sixtyplusers best start getting ready now. I'm getting older > > every day... > > Cybe R. Wizard > > I'm ready for ya, Cybe! LOL > A-a-a-a-a-oooooooooo! > ---Sea, at 60+ ng, howling for Wolfie, the Cyber Wizard... > >Wait, now. That Wolf is somebody completely different. Hey, Google me up. Cybe R. Wizard -internetionally infamous -- Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P. Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P. "Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y. Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus From: Wolfie References: <20030725093251.6ba0a73c.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:38:16 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:38:16 GMT Status: O Content-Length: 641 Lines: 28 In article <20030725093251.6ba0a73c.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com>, Cybe R. Wizard says... >> I'm ready for ya, Cybe! LOL >> A-a-a-a-a-oooooooooo! >> ---Sea, at 60+ ng, howling for Wolfie, the Cyber Wizard... >> >>Wait, now. That Wolf is somebody completely different. >Hey, Google me up. > >Cybe R. Wizard -internetionally infamous >-- >Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P. >Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P. >"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y. >Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L > Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Gasp...wheeze...gasp Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! Oh, too, too rich! Peace, Wolfie (completely different) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Allen Wolverton" Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:38:21 -0700 Organization: SnowCrest.net Message-ID: References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20030725081017.1477c569.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> <3F214474.F4B5D16D@bellsouth.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ds3e204.snowcrest.net X-Trace: news.snowcrest.net 1059160661 22063 65.215.244.204 (25 Jul 2003 19:17:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.snowcrest.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Jul 2003 19:17:41 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Status: O Content-Length: 922 Lines: 41 The Golden Years have plenty of brown streaks -barfington Shirley wrote in message news:3F214474.F4B5D16D@bellsouth.net... > > > "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:41:23 -0400 > > "~~seadancer~~" wrote: > > > > > "Wolfie" wrote > > > > Sure...AFTER the customary explanations. > > > > Peace, Wolfie > > > > > > Wolfie, > > > You just cross-posted into alt.sixtyplus. > > > (I *thought* your name looked familiar. ) > > > ---Sea, at 60+ ng > > > > > You sixtyplusers best start getting ready now. I'm getting older every > > day... > > > > Cybe R. Wizard > > > > > We don't go by how old we are... > > We go by are first memory lose... > > Have you walked from one room to the next and then stopped because you > couldn't remember what you were after? > > Welcome my friend....to the golden years.... :o} > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F21A272.45E4CC46@bellsouth.net> From: Shirley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20030725081017.1477c569.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> <3F214474.F4B5D16D@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:18:07 EDT Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:34:43 -0400 Status: O Content-Length: 1139 Lines: 46 I guess that depends intirely on how much tarnish you have accumulated by the time the golden years have arrived? Allen Wolverton wrote: > The Golden Years have plenty of brown streaks > -barfington > > Shirley wrote in message > news:3F214474.F4B5D16D@bellsouth.net... > > > > > > "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:41:23 -0400 > > > "~~seadancer~~" wrote: > > > > > > > "Wolfie" wrote > > > > > Sure...AFTER the customary explanations. > > > > > Peace, Wolfie > > > > > > > > Wolfie, > > > > You just cross-posted into alt.sixtyplus. > > > > (I *thought* your name looked familiar. ) > > > > ---Sea, at 60+ ng > > > > > > > You sixtyplusers best start getting ready now. I'm getting older every > > > day... > > > > > > Cybe R. Wizard > > > > > > > > > > We don't go by how old we are... > > > > We go by are first memory lose... > > > > Have you walked from one room to the next and then stopped because you > > couldn't remember what you were after? > > > > Welcome my friend....to the golden years.... :o} > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: **Dalin** Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:08:29 GMT Message-ID: <3f38b830.44509806@news.individual.net> References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20030725081017.1477c569.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> <3F214474.F4B5D16D@bellsouth.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10bj443.cable.mindspring.com (64.185.144.131) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059174497 19214411 64.185.144.131 (16 [122264]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Status: O Content-Length: 220 Lines: 11 On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:43:33 +0800, Ærchie wrote: >> >Hey - I walk into one newsgroup and forget what I was going to say - -> > >Ærchie Maybe because you're posting in four of them? Dalin > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "WB3FUP \(Mike Hall\)" Newsgroups: alt.fiftyplus,alt.fifty-plus.friends,alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs,alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Proof Men are Sensitive? Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:17:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f016551$0$5434$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20030725081017.1477c569.cyber_wizard@mindspring.com> <3F214474.F4B5D16D@bellsouth.net> <3f38b830.44509806@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.26.113.89.dial1.philadelphia1.level3.net (67.26.113.89) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1059175066 19494377 67.26.113.89 (16 [134747]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 389 Lines: 26 I am not alone? -- 73 es cul wb3fup a Salty Bear "**Dalin**" wrote in message news:3f38b830.44509806@news.individual.net... > On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 05:43:33 +0800, Ærchie wrote: > >> > >Hey - I walk into one newsgroup and forget what I was going to say - -> > > > >Ærchie > > Maybe because you're posting in four of them? > > Dalin > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ooxfxs@hornysex.com Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus,alt.skanky.slut.mariah-carey,alt.skate Subject: ()()()()()()()FREE PHONESEX -- girls call this service free 50cents for guys 3246 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse-news@frontiernet.net X-Trace: 52616e646f6d4956b9dcf3c838f3356b55a65d4e709ba9a150fc141e52c01b6657e20478f9ab6002c3187a50e81e44d487c839fc2e90fca76739cab70ac2985ad7b8944d35c71fb710cc20a9c7b7aee41566e422f0a658df690e174352ce245a153b0ce35d90be4ea0f4b8007c48d854 X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward ALL headers so that we may process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:25:05 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:25:05 GMT Status: O Content-Length: 96 Lines: 6 Live Phone Dating - Call Now: 1-800-418-CHIC vnimsmvzgiqdsjwfcunsrukbgwcnjuqzqkybvuvenywo From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:03:44 -0500 (CDT) Newsgroups: uk.local.yorkshire,uk.people.silversurfers,alt.sixtyplus,alt.karoo.local.unmoderated,free.uk.talk.sheffield,alt.music.white-power,uk.people.parents,uk.politics.drugs X-Abuse-To: abuse@cotse.com X-No-Archive: yes Subject: I like to push drugs From: "White Rose" X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: www.cotse.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@dizum.com Organization: mail2news@dizum.com Path: not-for-mail Status: O Content-Length: 168 Lines: 7 I go to school play grounds, and get little children hooked on drugs like cocaine and amphentamines. I'm so proud of myself :-))))) -- White Rose-Yorkshire Proud From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "POSI!!" Newsgroups: uk.local.yorkshire,uk.people.silversurfers,alt.sixtyplus,alt.karoo.local.unmoderated,free.uk.talk.sheffield,alt.music.white-power,uk.people.parents,uk.politics.drugs References: Subject: Re: I like to push drugs X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:54:29 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.3.231.12 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net 1061243669 80.3.231.12 (Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:54:29 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:54:29 BST Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Status: O Content-Length: 333 Lines: 16 our thay maid by haribo? posi "White Rose" wrote in message news:a2NvbQ==.1bed53b3060ef14d4cd7c086dbcd3b2a@1061219024.cotse.net... > I go to school play grounds, and get little children hooked on drugs like > cocaine and amphentamines. I'm so proud of myself :-))))) > > > -- > White Rose-Yorkshire Proud > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Screamingwitch. Newsgroups: uk.local.yorkshire,uk.people.silversurfers,alt.sixtyplus,alt.karoo.local.unmoderated,free.uk.talk.sheffield,alt.music.white-power,uk.people.parents,uk.politics.drugs Subject: Re: I like to push drugs Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:16:00 +0100 Organization: Mind yo Business ya F00kin NetKKKop. Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Uncon-Troll-able Laughter. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 550 Lines: 22 On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:54:29 +0100, "POSI!!" cacked this treat out!! >our thay maid by haribo? if i give my 3 year old sweets like that ,m&m's dr pepper cola or anythink like it ,hes hyper for hours > >posi > > >"White Rose" wrote in message >news:a2NvbQ==.1bed53b3060ef14d4cd7c086dbcd3b2a@1061219024.cotse.net... >> I go to school play grounds, and get little children hooked on drugs like >> cocaine and amphentamines. I'm so proud of myself :-))))) >> >> >> -- >> White Rose-Yorkshire Proud >> > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: DisiLLusioneD Newsgroups: uk.local.yorkshire,uk.people.silversurfers,alt.sixtyplus,alt.karoo.local.unmoderated,free.uk.talk.sheffield,alt.music.white-power,uk.people.parents,uk.politics.drugs Subject: Re: I like to push drugs Organization: Hardly. Reply-To: amw-p@use.net Message-ID: <7si6kv802sjt3cacg2jju46bqkahjsl8dj@4ax.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:21:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.134.231.244 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1061374899 144.134.231.244 (Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:21:39 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:21:39 EST Status: O Content-Length: 849 Lines: 35 In alt.music.white-power, Screamingwitch. typed: >On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:54:29 +0100, "POSI!!" >cacked this treat out!! > >>our thay maid by haribo? > >if i give my 3 year old sweets like that ,m&m's dr pepper cola or >anythink like it ,hes hyper for hours play him some skrewdrivers & he'll be ready to join us on teh internet >> >>posi >> >> >>"White Rose" wrote in message >>news:a2NvbQ==.1bed53b3060ef14d4cd7c086dbcd3b2a@1061219024.cotse.net... >>> I go to school play grounds, and get little children hooked on drugs like >>> cocaine and amphentamines. I'm so proud of myself :-))))) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> White Rose-Yorkshire Proud >>> >> -- Mr Riff AMW-P regiment. http://www.stpwood.karoo.net - teh bestest room on teh internet ! http://tinyurl.com/bch0 .mheh. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: DisiLLusioneD Newsgroups: uk.local.yorkshire,uk.people.silversurfers,alt.sixtyplus,alt.karoo.local.unmoderated,free.uk.talk.sheffield,alt.music.white-power,uk.people.parents,uk.politics.drugs Subject: Re: I like to push drugs Organization: Hardly. Reply-To: amw-p@use.net Message-ID: References: <7si6kv802sjt3cacg2jju46bqkahjsl8dj@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:30:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.134.231.244 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1061375423 144.134.231.244 (Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:30:23 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:30:23 EST Status: O Content-Length: 1258 Lines: 48 In alt.music.white-power, Screamingwitch. typed: >On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:21:39 GMT, DisiLLusioneD >cacked this treat out!! > >>In alt.music.white-power, Screamingwitch. >>typed: >> >>>On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:54:29 +0100, "POSI!!" >>>cacked this treat out!! >>> >>>>our thay maid by haribo? >>> >>>if i give my 3 year old sweets like that ,m&m's dr pepper cola or >>>anythink like it ,hes hyper for hours >> >>play him some skrewdrivers & he'll be ready to join us on teh internet > >hehhehe hes 4 tommorow going on 14 so i may introduce him to >Skrewdriver first thing in the morning :) ahhhh happy berfdee to witchie junior then ! >> >> >>>> >>>>posi >>>> >>>> >>>>"White Rose" wrote in message >>>>news:a2NvbQ==.1bed53b3060ef14d4cd7c086dbcd3b2a@1061219024.cotse.net... >>>>> I go to school play grounds, and get little children hooked on drugs like >>>>> cocaine and amphentamines. I'm so proud of myself :-))))) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> White Rose-Yorkshire Proud >>>>> >>>> -- Mr Riff AMW-P regiment. http://www.stpwood.karoo.net - teh bestest room on teh internet ! http://tinyurl.com/bch0 .mheh. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "ACGIBSON" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus,alt.skanky.slut.mariah-carey,alt.skate,alt.skate-board,alt.skate.figure,alt.skateboard,alt.skeezewockers,alt.skeptic.magazine,alt.skeptic.society,alt.skiing References: Subject: Re: Important Newsgroup Virus Information X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <2Zc5b.9519$su.309855@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 23:11:04 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.228.151.29 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1062558654 64.228.151.29 (Tue, 02 Sep 2003 23:10:54 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 23:10:54 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 344 Lines: 12 Stop talkin crap and pushin your bullshit site!!!!!!!!!! wrote in message news:zt15b.116200$yg.33689739@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net... > There have been numerous reports about a new virus circulating the newsgroups. Please click here for more information. Thank you. > > http://www.iwars.net/dmxdvc.html > > Regards > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.79.171.47 From: "T.L.F." Newsgroups: alt.silly.little.newsgroup,alt.siplist,alt.sixtyplus,alt.skate,alt.skate.commentary,alt.skate.figure,alt.skate.figure.oksana-bayul,alt.skateboard,alt.skate-board Subject: Turn $6 into $60,000 in 90 days, GUARANTEED X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:14:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.66.94.143 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news2.calgary.shaw.ca 1063847695 24.66.94.143 (Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:14:55 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:14:55 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Status: O Content-Length: 10711 Lines: 256 Turn $6 into $60,000 in 90 days, GUARANTEED Postal lottery: Turn $6 into $60,000 in 90 days, GUARANTEED I found this in a news group and decided to try it. A little while back, I was browsing through news groups, just like you are now and came across a message just like this, that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00!!! So I thought yeah right, this must be a scam!!! But like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and addresses stated in the message. You then place your own name and address at the bottom of the list at #6 and post the message in at least 200 news groups. (There are thousands). No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first. I thought about trying it. I figured, what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right? So I invested the measly $6.00!!! Guess what? Within 7 days I started getting money in the mail!!! I was shocked!!! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in!!! In my first week, I had made about $25.00. By the end of the second week, I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!! In the third week, I had over $10,000.00 and it is still growing!!! This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it is still coming in rapidly!!! It's certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!!! I have spent more than that on the Lottery!!! Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works!!! Also, make sure you print a copy of this message now. So you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy!!! Suggestion: Read this entire message carefully!!! (Print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in!!! It's easy!!! It's legal!!! Your investment is only $6.00 (plus postage). IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off!!! It is not illegal!!! ? It is almost entirely risk free and it really works!!! If all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends!!! Please note: Follow these directions EXACTLY, and $60,000.00 or more can be yours in 20 to 90 days!!! This program remains successful because of the honesty and the integrity of the participants!!! Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the mail order business. In this business your product is not solid or tangible, it is a service. You are in the business of developing mailing lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the money made from a mailing list is secondary to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included on your mailing list!!! Here are the 4 easy steps to success: Step 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper. PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST Now get 6 U.S. dollar bills and place ONE inside each of the 6 pieces of paper so the bills will not be seen through the envelopes (to prevent mail theft). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them, you should now have 6 sealed envelopes. Each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!!! YOU ARE REQUESTING A LEGITIMATE SERVICE AND YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT!!! Like most of us, I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspect of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Postal Service and they confirmed that it is indeed legal!!! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: S.C.B. 28 Dalrymple Green N.W. Calgary, A.B. T3A-1Y2 Canada M. Velazquez 5864 S.W. 8th Place Gainesville, FL 32607 USA S.N. Chicago 1070 W.64th St. # 11 LaGrange, Illinois 60525 J. Martin 74 Newbury Dr. Newmarket, Ontario L3Y 4R3 Canada C. Rogozinsky 167 Whitecap Place Saskatoon, SK S7M 5C8 Canada T. Friesen 478 Stalker Bay Winnipeg, Mb R2G 0C8 Canada Step 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc.) and add your name as number 6 on the list. Step 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this message as close to what you see as possible. Now, post your amended message to at least 200 news groups. I think there are close to 24,000 groups!!! All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make!!! This is perfectly legal!! If you have any doubts, refer to Title18 sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and whenever you need money, you can use it again. Please remember that this program remains successful because of the honesty and the integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions!!! Look at it this way. If you are of integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many others have received will come your way!!! Note: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on your computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This verifies that you are truly providing a service. Also, it might be a good Idea to wrap the $1 bills in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft. So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a list developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position, you will be receiving thousands of dollars in cash!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00!!! ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above). Send it now, add your own name to the list and your in business!!! DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO POST TO A NEWS GROUP!!! Step 1: You do not need to re-type this entire message to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this message and drag your cursor to the bottom of this message and select copy from the edit menu. This will copy the entire message into the computer memory. Step 2: Open a blank note pad file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the edit menu select paste. This will paste a copy of the message into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. Step 3: Save your new notepad file as a txt file. If you want to do your posting in a different setting, you'll always have this file to go back to. Step 4: Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and try searching for various news groups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions, etc.) Step 5: Visit these message boards and post this message as a new message by highlighting the text of this message from your notepad and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be the header that everybody sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group. Click the post message button. You've done your first one! Congratulations!!! All You have to do is jump to different news groups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each news group! REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWS GROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!!!! (But you have to post a minimum of 200). That's it!!! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days!!! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT!!! Now the why part. Out of 200 postings, say you receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then you made $5.00 with your name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who sent you $1.00 make the minimum 200 postings, each with your name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for you. Now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with your name at #4 and only 5 replies each, you will bring in an additional $125.00!!!! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the minimum 200 with your name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, you will make an additional $625.00!!! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a minimum 200 messages with your name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made you $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 news groups, If just 5 more reply you will receive $15,625.00!!! All with an original investment of only $6.00!!! Amazing isn't it!!!! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the news groups and send out another $6.00 to the names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. You must realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these messages every day!!! Just like you are now!!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works? I'm glad I did!!! People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money?" So what!!! What are the chances of that happening, when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and news groups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day!!! REMEMBER PLAY HONESTLY AND FAIRLY AND THIS WILL REALLY WORK!!! --comments/feedback(please post your feedback/experiences here)--- Not bad for 1 hr's work....made me around $5320 in roughly 35 days Anthony M Texas Hello, I rcvd 269 bucks in the post in 2 weeks. Dan Miami, FL I had to wait around 10 days before I had any results - $13,450 as of 3rd Jan 2003 to date(14th Feb 2003).Am going to re-post it again for more money!! Del from Alberta - Canada Only received around $588 in the post the last 2 months since I started the program but I'd posted to approx. 100 newsgroups. James P Manchester UK cool....didn't expect much out of this "scam" initially but I have pay my credit card bill Mustafa , Jordan I have received money from people all over the world...here in China it is very good money and I buy new computer last month Zhong Wen ...Guangxi CHina For $6,I made $246 in 2 weeks --ROMEO2326 little rock,AR US of A Hey, just dropping a line to say that after posting to well over 820 newsgroups on google and my ISP newsgroup server over a period of 4 1/2 months ,I've raked in $54280 . Mucho dinero baby!!!! Peace, Drew Dallas TX I hope whom ever receives my envelopes enjoys the crispy new dollar bills. Great program, I just started receiving cash. S.C.B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:24:38 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20031014103345.13877.00000329@mb-m29.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155002 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 870 Lines: 26 Marian wrote >>>> Do you think it was their slightly British accents? >>>> Somehow, some British accents sound so posh. >>>> T'isn't fair, is it. >>>> After all, it's only an accent like any other accent. >>>> Why should we prefer it? >>>> ---Sea, who thinks about things like this... >>>================ >>>Depends on the English accent. There's a huge difference >>>in them. Cockney doesn't sound so posh, for example. >>> >>>Bobbie >>> >>I could never stand to watch Eastenders. The accents are absolutely >>ghaaaaastly my dear! :-) >>-- >>Gordon > >I keep up with Eastenders here. We're in 1999... Anyone else watch this? Brits? >What's going on there currently? > Dirty Den is back. That's all I know, never watched it. The bad news is - you are going to lose Eastenders. Didn't you know? My daughter is furious....... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:28:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4bnm9FB8ibi$EwjS@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20031014111633.13877.00000337@mb-m29.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155003 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 949 Lines: 25 Marian wrote >>>Well, Gordon, some people are afraid of sex. >>>They're even afraid to talk about it. LOL >>>Actually, I think it's a very funny subject. >>>I think that Nature played a trick on the animals, >>>making them experience Le Petit Mort*, losing >>>all control of themselves and often looking >>>quite foolish at the same time. A wonderful >>>source of humor, if done right and with some >>>sophistication. (I was referring to humor there, >>>but I guess those words might apply to s** too. ) >>>---Sea, afraid to say the word, s**, out loud too often... >>>* > http://avocadia.net/viewnode.php?op=nid=247 >>> >>You display a nice healthy attitude towards the subject. >>It is a ridiculous posture to be caught in, isn't it? >>-- >>Gordon > >[Great page, Sea!] Reminds me to wonder where did the phrase, "Creature with >two backs" come from? > "Beast with two backs" is more alliterative. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What does QC mean? Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:34:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8b4664$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be853$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155005 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 821 Lines: 35 Barbara Christian wrote >> >> [Sea wrote] >> >> > >Have you made up your mind yet? LOL >> >> > >---Sea >> >> >> >> > Yes. >> >> > If you are still breathing and have a pulse, >> >> > I'm ready, how about you? >> >> > Gordon >> >> >> >> LOL! >> >> Gordon, I'm always ready. >> >> But are you able? LOL >> >> ---Sea >> >========= >> >Brewer's droop, you reckon? >> >Bobbie >> > >> I'm nearly tea-total! >> >> Naaah, the lack of mental stimulation, the right woman, (preferably >> wealthy - that's stimulating). I'm ok when I'm on my own. ;-) >> -- >> Gordon >======== >Got yourself well in hand, do you? >Bobbie > Only if I can't get someone else . . . 'Tis said that men are either walkers or liars. Women open the Yellow Page and let their fingers do the walking... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What does QC mean? Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:38:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8a442a$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031013140651.29144.00000335@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8be912$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155007 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 647 Lines: 23 Barbara Christian wrote >> > >> >And dogs bark. >> > >> That's what they are for. >> >> The stupid ones bark at nothing, and they should be shot. >> -- >I agree with that. Sasha doesn't bark unless someone she knows >is on her property. Then all hell breaks loose. Aside from that >she talks to me with these funny noises, sort of like Mmmmm >up and down the scale. I trained her to only bark as a warning. >Bobbie > Sasha? Somehow that sounds like a dog I wouldn't get past. :-( I'd soon kick Sea's pooch through the window, but Sasha? Sounds like a German Shep, somehow.... -- Gordon (Preparing to fend off Sea) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Message-ID: References: <$rfnxnBftbi$EwBO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:25 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.119.181 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066153526 64.231.119.181 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 4252 Lines: 96 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:38:37 +0100, Aries wrote: >On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:25:41 -0400, Jan scrawled: > >> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:43:47 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" >> wrote: > >> >>>[Val wrote] >>>> Encyclopedia article (Oggy Oggy Oggy) >>>> The Oggy Oggy Oggy (or possibly Oggie Oggie Oggie) chant and its numerous >>>> variations are often heard at sporting events, political rallies and >>>around boy scout and girl guide campfires. >>>> The usual form of the chant consists of two groups, one shouting the word >>>> "Oggy!" and the other group shouting the word "Oi!" Often a single >>>> individual will shout "Oggy"... >>>> val at copelands.co.uk >>> >>>Thanks, Val! >>>What fun! I've been in scouting, but I've never >>>heard those expressions. >>>I've done some further research because I was >>>curious about it. I found: >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>"One possible theory for the origin of the chant stems >>> from Cornwall. An Oggy is a slang term for a Cornish >>> pasty and the tin miner's wives would shout "Oggy >>> Oggy Oggy" when delivering pasties to their husbands. >>> In the 1970s the Welsh folk singer and commedian Max >>> Boyce popularised the chant in order to excite the crowd >>> at his concerts. It then began to be adopted by Welsh >>> Rugby crowds at international matches. Soon it spread >>> to rugby crowds at club level and eventually to many >>> other sporting occasions at all levels. When Margaret >>> Thatcher came to power in Britain in 1979 a variation >>> of the chant ("Maggie Maggie Maggie , Out Out Out!") >>> was adopted by some of her opponents. The chant has >>> also spawned a variation used by Australian sporting >>> crowds ("Aussie Aussie Aussie , Oi! Oi! Oi!")." >>>> http://www.4reference.net/encyclopedias/wikipedia/Oggy_Oggy_Oggy.html >>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>---Sea, fascinated by this... I like the idea! >>> Oggy Oggy Oggy! >>> > >> All this oggy, oggy, oggy, reminds me of my days in the RN based in >> Devonport. A popular ditty, known as "The Oggie Song" was: > >> "Half a pound of flour and lard makes lovely clacker. >> Just enough for you and me, oh, bugger Jacker. >> Oh how happy us will be, when us gets to the West Country, >> Where the oggies grow on trees. >> Oh, bugger Janner. >> You make fast, I'll make fast, make fast the dinghy, make fast the >> dinghy, make fast the dinghy, then we'll all go back to Oggie Land, to >> Oggie Land, to Oggie Land, then we'll all go back to Oggie Land where >> they can't tell sugar from tissue paper, tissue paper, marmalade and >> jam. Oi" > >> A run ashore in Devonport was just not complete without buying a pint >> of milk and an oggie on the way back to the ship. Usually consumed >> while wandering through the dock-yard, carefully avoiding the >> dry-docks. > >> Translation of some of the above words: >> Clacker = pastry >> Jacker = slang term for Jack Tar (sailor) >> Janner = slang term for resident of the West Country, shortened to Jan >> as a nick-name. Hence my sig. >> Oggie Land = Devonport where the oggies were in profusion, though the >> best ones I've ever had, (other than the ones made by an elderly >> cornish lady I knew), came from a bakers in Penzance. > >> Jan > >> "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" > >When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often and great >favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious I >hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( >Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! Health conscious? There is nothing healthier than a good oggie, a meal in a bag. Hang your head in shame. To deny your family the delights of the oggie is unjust and unreasonable punishment. I can become more indignant about not producing oggies than I can about the Iraq fiasco. Saying Ahhhhhh does not reduce your culpability in denying your family's favourites. Consider yourself told off. Do you realise that in a more sensible age than the present, this would have been worthy of a 'Letter to the Times'. Jan (Suitably indignant) "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Message-ID: References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.119.181 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066153527 64.231.119.181 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:27 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 2791 Lines: 56 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:34:13 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Barbara Christian wrote >>> Do you think it was their slightly British accents? >>> Somehow, some British accents sound so posh. >>> T'isn't fair, is it. >>> After all, it's only an accent like any other accent. >>> Why should we prefer it? >>> ---Sea, who thinks about things like this... >>================ >>Depends on the English accent. There's a huge difference >>in them. Cockney doesn't sound so posh, for example. >> >>Bobbie >> >I could never stand to watch Eastenders. The accents are absolutely >ghaaaaastly my dear! :-) Gordon and Val, The first time Eastenders was shown here, my youngest son wanted to watch it. So, like a dutiful father I sat through it with him. Once it was over, his comment was, "That looks like a good show, what the hell were they saying?" Dad had to move into translation mode. To side-track a little. On my last visit to England, I noticed that regional accents were fading away and being replaced with some sort of pseudo South Coast accent. The older people still had the West Country burr but the kids seemed to be losing it. Is this general? A very good friend of mine, a genuine Devon Dumpling maid told me that her husband had never heard a Cornish accent. She took him to a place that she remembered well from her child-hood, which was Marazion. They went on a tour of St. Michael's Mount, the home of Lord St.Levan. St. Michael's Mount used to be a small fishing village separated from the main-land at high tide, and the tours were conducted by men and women from the village, so the Cornish accent was very much in evidence. To her horror, and as she described it, "The tours are now done by toffee-nosed kids with Oxford accents who don't know anything about the area." She felt the guide assigned to her party was particularly obnoxious and over-bearing so decided to have some fun. During the tour, the name of a famous West Country smuggler was mentioned. She raised her hand, and when she was acknowledged, commented in the broad Devon accent she can use on occasion, "I knows ee. Ee were my great-great-grand-father", which he was. Strangely she said, the guide was not impressed and merely said, "Quite, madam". Following the tour, she cornered one of the guides and asked if John was home. When they asked who John was, she told them it was Lord St. Leven, and as a child she went out in the race committee boat with him on regatta nights, knew him quite well and would like to visit if he was home. She said the expressions on their faces were a sight to behold. Unfortunately they had no luck at hearing the true Cornish accent there. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Message-ID: <7j7oov8ua604pe8cj3k2h6uenkuct1uvp5@4ax.com> References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.119.181 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066153527 64.231.119.181 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:27 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 896 Lines: 26 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:46:00 +1000, "Barbara Christian" wrote: > > When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often and >great >> favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious I >> hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( >> Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! >> -- >> val >========== >I lashed out today and had a proper Cornish pastie. I'll be good for the >next month and then will lash out again. > >Bobbie > Bobbie, I would question the phrase 'proper' Cornish pastie. I say this because I've never found one outside of Cornwall or Devon. I've seen many advertised, but were never the real thing. Tell me, what are the dimensions of your Cornish pasties, and what are the ingredients? Jan (A purist when it comes to oggies) "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Message-ID: References: <$rfnxnBftbi$EwBO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.119.181 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066153527 64.231.119.181 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:27 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 3285 Lines: 72 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:33:40 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Jan wrote >> >>All this oggy, oggy, oggy, reminds me of my days in the RN based in >>Devonport. A popular ditty, known as "The Oggie Song" was: >> >>"Half a pound of flour and lard makes lovely clacker. >>Just enough for you and me, oh, bugger Jacker. >>Oh how happy us will be, when us gets to the West Country, >>Where the oggies grow on trees. >>Oh, bugger Janner. >>You make fast, I'll make fast, make fast the dinghy, make fast the >>dinghy, make fast the dinghy, then we'll all go back to Oggie Land, to >>Oggie Land, to Oggie Land, then we'll all go back to Oggie Land where >>they can't tell sugar from tissue paper, tissue paper, marmalade and >>jam. Oi" >> >>A run ashore in Devonport was just not complete without buying a pint >>of milk and an oggie on the way back to the ship. Usually consumed >>while wandering through the dock-yard, carefully avoiding the >>dry-docks. >> >>Translation of some of the above words: >>Clacker = pastry >>Jacker = slang term for Jack Tar (sailor) >>Janner = slang term for resident of the West Country, shortened to Jan >>as a nick-name. Hence my sig. >>Oggie Land = Devonport where the oggies were in profusion, though the >>best ones I've ever had, (other than the ones made by an elderly >>cornish lady I knew), came from a bakers in Penzance. >> >>Jan >> >>"If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" > >I had a holiday at Plymouth about 7 years ago with my ex g/f, and we >took a cruise round the harbour and past the Navy ships as far as the >bridge and back. We saw one of the Falklands supply ships, a few >frigates and stuff, and a sub being escorted out to sea by a tug. > >I have a book with an illustration of a painting of part of the >Devonport dockyard (No 1 Slip) by my favourite artist, William Russell- >Flint. Lovely sepia tones. >He painted lovely women too...... ;-) Hi Gordon, Yes, I know the area well. I've sailed across the Sound on many occasions. I hope you didn't wave at the sailors. The reason I mention this is that in my politically incorrect day someone would have called out, (knowing they wouldn't be heard), "All the women not wearing knickers wave". Then of course we would wave and see the response. Of course there was no TV on the ships so we made our own entertainment, even if juvenile. I don't think I should mention how the sea-gulls came into the entertainment, suffice to say we hated them with a vengeance. Did you get up to the Hoe to see where Drake farted around when the Spanish were running their first tourist cruise to England? Is the Barbican still there? Cross over to Cornwall on the Torpoint ferry, or is that all history now? One watering hole was what we called the 'Long Bar', I can't remember the street name now as it was so many years ago, but I still have photos of a drunken night there with some of my oppos I think I may have seen some paintings of the old dock-yard. Those were the days, as an old Chief Petty Officer used to remark, "When the ships were wood and the men were steel. To-day we seem to have reversed the process." Jan (In reminiscing mode) "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Message-ID: References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.119.181 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066153527 64.231.119.181 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:27 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1253 Lines: 34 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:21:36 +0100, Aries wrote: >On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:46:00 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: > >> > When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often and >> great >>> favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious I >>> hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( >>> Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! >>> -- >>> val >> ========== >> I lashed out today and had a proper Cornish pastie. I'll be good for the >> next month and then will lash out again. > >> Bobbie > >My fave lash out is fish and chips - mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Val, On my infrequent trips to the UK there are a few things I always attempt to sample once again. Clotted cream, Oggies, Scrumpy, draft bitter and fish and chips. Other than the oggies which I make myself, the others are not quite the same in Canada, although I can get most of them. The best fish and chips I've had here were from a store run by a man from Afghanistan who told me he had worked in a fish and chip shop in England before leaving for Canada. I've just discovered a source here for Mamade, wow, does that ever make good marmalade. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:46:51 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <88Gib.176660$0v4.13610391@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3F8B3432.BF2A603B@rcn.com> <3f8be66e$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155009 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1162 Lines: 35 Barbara Christian wrote > >> >Yoj wrote: >> >> >> >> You iron? Okay, there's one thing we don't have in common. I don't >> >> even own an iron. >> >> >> >You have heard me say this before, but when my daughter was in >> >kindergarten, she asked the teacher what an iron was.... >> > >> I iron only the shirts which need ironing. >> >> I don't brag about it though.... >> -- >> Gordon >======= >You mean you haven't been able to talk one of your girlie-girls into >ironing them for you? Hope you're not losing your technique. > >Bobbie > One of? I don't fool around. Mavis did ask me once if I wanted her to iron my shirts which were hanging up in the lounge. I declined. I could have a life of ease if I brought her here from her rented house and married her, and I know she would help to decorate and brighten up the place. She would lose her pension supplement and her housing benefit and I would pay over £200 more Council tax. I could put half my savings in her name and save a little income tax. She would get half my Company pension when I died. Sounds like a good deal for one of us... ;-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:49:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B32DD.4E4C7827@rcn.com> <3f8b55d3$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0227.3AA6FFE6@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155011 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 433 Lines: 13 Jean B. wrote > >How much of a job is that? If it were easy, I suppose Leah's dad >might have tackled that, since he is an EE, among other things. I use to put my own sockets in and it's no big deal for an EE, but teh regulations have to be known, and adhered to. I had my house re-wired a couple of years ago and paid an electrician (who was a neighbour), to do it. I had 40 additional sockets put in! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:51:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b58f0$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be6bf$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155012 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 843 Lines: 24 Barbara Christian wrote > >> My wife used to say that clothes needed to blow in the open air to dry >> soft and fresh. I bought a tumble dryer a few months ago and now I >> know different. When M**** first came to my house I had difficulty >> finding towels she regarded as 'soft'. >> I nearly always dry them in the dryer now, and they are softer than they >> ever were. Leave them out on a sunny day and they dry like boards... >> >> Even the best conditions - a lively breeze and dry cloudy day, doesn't >> get them as soft as the dryer. >> -- >> Gordon >========= >I'd rather have crispy towels which have that wonderful sun-dried >smell. Besides, it doesn't use any electricity. > >Bobbie > Want a dry rub down? Ooooh Look - you're all pink! I have noticed no difference in my leccy bill. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:54:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be753$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155014 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1606 Lines: 50 Barbara Christian wrote > >> >> [sea wrote] [...] >> >> > > Joy - It's true that we women are not forced to dress up. >> >> > > However, if I hadn't dressed a certain way when I was >> >> > > younger, my husband wouldn't have given me a tumble. >> >> > > And I like to tumble. LOL [...] >> >> >> >> > I met my husband on a church retreat, where we all slept in bunks, >had >> >> > breakfast together, and spent most of the day outdoors. He didn't >have >> >> > any unpleasant surprises when we got married, because he already knew >> >> > the worst. Nowadays, I take my motto from Flip Wilson's Geraldine - >> >> > What you see is what you get! >> >> > Joy >> >> >> >> At least that's honest. >> >> But some people (like myself) need all the help we can get >> >> in the appearance department. >> >> ---Sea >> >============= >> >> >To me you're beautiful.....it's the inner beauty which counts. >> > >> >Bobbie >> > >> She's OK. I wouldn't kick her out of bed. >> (That b***** dog is a different story) ;-) >> >> One of my buddies said to me "You think ALL women are attractive". >> Just because I find mature, 'less than perfect' women have a certain >> appeal.... >> >> They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I >> flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see >> themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. ;-) >> -- >> Gordon >=========== >Those comments show that you have matured and can now >see inner beauty. > >Bobbie > Thank you. It also widens the 'field' considerably for me. ;-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:04:25 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3F8C017A.6442FD45@rcn.com> <20031014105933.13877.00000334@mb-m29.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155016 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 416 Lines: 17 Marian wrote >> I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans >>> are stretch jeans. >>> >>> Bobbie >> >>I don't know Tar-jay.... >>-- >>Jean B. > >Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? Have a silver star in your exercise book, go top of the class, and stay behind and see me after lessons. There could be a gold star in it for you............ -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:05:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066155018 17473 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 18:10:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:10:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 550 Lines: 22 Jean B. wrote >Barbara Christian wrote: >> >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. >> > > >> > > Bobbie >> > >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. >> > -- >> > Jean B. >> ====== >> So do I. >> Bobbie > >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out >looking at shirts. Ugh. > I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Message-ID: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:20:20 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.116.252 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066155622 64.231.116.252 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:20:22 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:20:22 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 2054 Lines: 38 For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. *That* would have been something for which to be proud. A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its entire history. It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that *some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat going on somewhere. My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades into insignificance. That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.91 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066156321 32.103.153.91 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:01 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:32:01 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1727 Lines: 54 "Gordon" wrote in message news:eMOfoHCb08i$EwXh@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Barbara Christian wrote > > > >> [sea wrote] [...] > >> > > Joy - It's true that we women are not forced to dress up. > >> > > However, if I hadn't dressed a certain way when I was > >> > > younger, my husband wouldn't have given me a tumble. > >> > > And I like to tumble. LOL [...] > >> > >> > I met my husband on a church retreat, where we all slept in bunks, had > >> > breakfast together, and spent most of the day outdoors. He didn't have > >> > any unpleasant surprises when we got married, because he already knew > >> > the worst. Nowadays, I take my motto from Flip Wilson's Geraldine - > >> > What you see is what you get! > >> > Joy > >> > >> At least that's honest. > >> But some people (like myself) need all the help we can get > >> in the appearance department. > >> ---Sea > >============= > > >To me you're beautiful.....it's the inner beauty which counts. > > > >Bobbie > > > She's OK. I wouldn't kick her out of bed. > (That b***** dog is a different story) ;-) > > One of my buddies said to me "You think ALL women are attractive". > Just because I find mature, 'less than perfect' women have a certain > appeal.... > > They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I > flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see > themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. ;-) > -- > Gordon Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a perfect "10". Joy Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:34:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.91 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066156456 32.103.153.91 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:34:16 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:34:16 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 772 Lines: 20 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Joy (I think) wrote: "I wear lipstick all the time, but I don't own any > other makeup." > *************************************** > I have other makeup but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had > extremely dry skin, but the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup looks > splotchy after it's been on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the > mood strikes me! I do use moisturizers religiously. Jeanette I did try wearing foundation for a while, but I found that the area over my upper lip always looked as though I hadn't put any makeup on that spot. It looked weird, so I decided to save the cost and trouble of using the foundation. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b58f0$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:36:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.91 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066156596 32.103.153.91 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:36:36 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:36:36 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1201 Lines: 32 "Gordon" wrote in message news:w8lUUtB0g8i$EwQa@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Barbara Christian wrote > >=========== > >Another difference we have. I will not dry any clothes or other > >laundry item in the dryer.....unless we have a fortnight of a > >monsoonal trough. Even then, I'll wash the absolute minimum > >of clothes so I have the absolute minimum to dry in the dryer. > >I'll take my rotary hoist. http://www.sydneyclotheslines.com.au/rotary.html > >I even have a small fold-up one I keep in the patio and take camping > >with me. > > > My wife used to say that clothes needed to blow in the open air to dry > soft and fresh. I bought a tumble dryer a few months ago and now I > know different. When M**** first came to my house I had difficulty > finding towels she regarded as 'soft'. > I nearly always dry them in the dryer now, and they are softer than they > ever were. Leave them out on a sunny day and they dry like boards... > > Even the best conditions - a lively breeze and dry cloudy day, doesn't > get them as soft as the dryer. > -- > Gordon That's why I almost always use the dryer, even though I have clotheslines. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:01:02 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3f89cb45$0$15134$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <5vakov0aladlj228pblk2hvkj0to0k8033@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1250 Lines: 39 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:55:24 +0100, Mike Clayton wrote: >In message , Mike Clayton > writes >>You are right Eugene, there is no shortage of URL's > >Following up on myself > >This one is interesting because it shows that not all detainees were >captured in combat situations: > >http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/sep2003/guan-s19.shtml > >Another: > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96270,00.html > >This is one were a group of former U.S. federal judges, diplomats, >military officials and human rights advocates urged the Supreme Court on >Thursday to review the case of detainees held without being charged at >Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere in the name of terrorism. > >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=1896&e=5&u=/nm/20031009/us_nm/rights_guantanamo_dc_3 No doubt there is a lot of tugging back and forth. However I think the URL's I provided, from official gov. sources, http://usinfo.state.gov , covers most to the questions. You will have to decide for yourself which is accurate. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:59:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B32DD.4E4C7827@rcn.com> <3f8b55d3$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0227.3AA6FFE6@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-81-13.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.81.13) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066165214 23768685 68.79.81.13 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 581 Lines: 17 We had some wiring done a few years ago adding circuits and a box with circuit breakers to replace the old fuse box, this house was built in 1930 and was not fitted out for all the TVs, microwaves, computers, etc. "Gordon" wrote in message news:MzorHqBHdDj$EwPs@g3snx.demon.co.uk... I use to put my own sockets in and it's no big deal for an EE, but teh regulations have to be known, and adhered to. I had my house re-wired a couple of years ago and paid an electrician (who was a neighbour), to do it. I had 40 additional sockets put in! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:01:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20031014104451.13877.00000331@mb-m29.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-81-13.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.81.13) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066165316 24397657 68.79.81.13 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 485 Lines: 14 Yes, he has been totally immersed in home improvement projects since he retired. I keep thinking he will run out of things to do but he keeps thinking of more. We do have some painting that needs to be done but that is one of his least favorite things so he has been putting it off. "Marian" wrote in message news:20031014104451.13877.00000331@mb-m29.aol.com... That man of yours is awesomely clever, Joan. Better watch him carefully... Marian From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:09:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f826800.40315317@news.individual.net> <3f82cd52$0$28898$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f83439c.2635493@news.individual.net> <3f834c78$0$28898$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <2rm6ov0mjmo7giiicis1pqhpvkg007p5au@4ax.com> <3f83791e$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <6av6ov8f204m80dv3e6v8tbsmnu67rultv@4ax.com> <8D7hb.173945$3o3.12826950@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <0EUib.788$7a4.641@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-81-13.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.81.13) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066165817 24503375 68.79.81.13 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 560 Lines: 19 Well, I don't think there is much difference between private and government bureaucracy. The motivation is perhaps different, but the profit motive hasn't done much to help improve health care. "Bob Thomas" wrote in message news:0EUib.788$7a4.641@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... "Joan F (MI)" wrote in message news:bmce4f$jqvih$1@ID-57393.news.uni-berlin.de... > You think your insurance company doesn't already do this? > I suppose that is debatable. At least it isn't a "gummint" burocrat. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The California Recall and how I would vote Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:15:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20031014113719.13877.00000340@mb-m29.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-81-13.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.81.13) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066166175 23216729 68.79.81.13 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 744 Lines: 24 Can't think of any but Granholm has been a very fast rising political star. She seems to be doing pretty well at not making people too unhappy in a terrible situation, bad budget crunch, Republican legislature. She's very personable, bright and exudes confidence, a bit softer Hillary perhaps, and without the Clinton baggage. "Marian" wrote in message news:20031014113719.13877.00000340@mb-m29.aol.com... Cool. I've learned that Barney Frank is co-sponsoring legislation to begin to make this change, Joan, and there seems no real reason not to. It'll take a while, but maybe Granholm will be a player... Romney [pere]. Who else from Michigan has been a presidential candidate in the past? Marian From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:18:18 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066166381 24222555 217.137.94.19 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (0e2eb9e6.247.275) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 3294 Lines: 66 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 -0400, Jan scrawled: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:34:13 +0100, Gordon > wrote: >>Barbara Christian wrote >>>> Do you think it was their slightly British accents? >>>> Somehow, some British accents sound so posh. >>>> T'isn't fair, is it. >>>> After all, it's only an accent like any other accent. >>>> Why should we prefer it? >>>> ---Sea, who thinks about things like this... >>>================ >>>Depends on the English accent. There's a huge difference >>>in them. Cockney doesn't sound so posh, for example. >>> >>>Bobbie >>> >>I could never stand to watch Eastenders. The accents are absolutely >>ghaaaaastly my dear! :-) > > Gordon and Val, > The first time Eastenders was shown here, my youngest son wanted to > watch it. So, like a dutiful father I sat through it with him. > Once it was over, his comment was, "That looks like a good show, what > the hell were they saying?" Dad had to move into translation mode. > To side-track a little. On my last visit to England, I noticed that > regional accents were fading away and being replaced with some sort of > pseudo South Coast accent. The older people still had the West > Country burr but the kids seemed to be losing it. Is this general? > A very good friend of mine, a genuine Devon Dumpling maid told me > that her husband had never heard a Cornish accent. > She took him to a place that she remembered well from her child-hood, > which was Marazion. They went on a tour of St. Michael's Mount, the > home of Lord St.Levan. St. Michael's Mount used to be a small fishing > village separated from the main-land at high tide, and the tours were > conducted by men and women from the village, so the Cornish accent was > very much in evidence. To her horror, and as she described it, "The > tours are now done by toffee-nosed kids with Oxford accents who don't > know anything about the area." > She felt the guide assigned to her party was particularly obnoxious > and over-bearing so decided to have some fun. During the tour, the > name of a famous West Country smuggler was mentioned. She raised her > hand, and when she was acknowledged, commented in the broad Devon > accent she can use on occasion, "I knows ee. Ee were my > great-great-grand-father", which he was. Strangely she said, the > guide was not impressed and merely said, "Quite, madam". > Following the tour, she cornered one of the guides and asked if John > was home. When they asked who John was, she told them it was Lord St. > Leven, and as a child she went out in the race committee boat with him > on regatta nights, knew him quite well and would like to visit if he > was home. She said the expressions on their faces were a sight to > behold. Unfortunately they had no luck at hearing the true Cornish > accent there. > Jan > "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" We used to farm in North Dev0n, our daughter is still there and her partner is a farmer. He and his family still speak with a lovely soft Devon accent with lots of ee's and old fashioned country language. I hope country accents won't die out, we will be poorer without them I fear. -- val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 22:15:45 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:20:36 -0300 Message-ID: References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066166420 22933877 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 2674 Lines: 52 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:20:20 -0400, Jan wrote: >For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal >political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far >better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. > If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to >Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. > America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and >could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. >*That* would have been something for which to be proud. > A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the >world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be >born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its >entire history. > It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war >when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. >Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount >of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is >going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that >*some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was >first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it >into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. > To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on >this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in >which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat >going on somewhere. > My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to >England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that >since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in >that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . >If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to >check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades >into insignificance. > >That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. > >Jan I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two irreconcilable ideologies. One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:21:01 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066166544 24222555 217.137.94.19 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (e5d6d2ce.208.287) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 921 Lines: 21 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 -0400, Jan scrawled: > Val, > On my infrequent trips to the UK there are a few things I always > attempt to sample once again. Clotted cream, Oggies, Scrumpy, draft > bitter and fish and chips. Other than the oggies which I make myself, > the others are not quite the same in Canada, although I can get most > of them. The best fish and chips I've had here were from a store run > by a man from Afghanistan who told me he had worked in a fish and chip > shop in England before leaving for Canada. > I've just discovered a source here for Mamade, wow, does that ever > make good marmalade. Farm made clotted cream is to die for Mmmmmm! Now I wouldn't touch Marmade if it was given to me. When I make marmalade I use fresh Seville oranges, demerra sugar and chunks of crystallised ginger - it tastes great :) -- val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 22:19:14 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:21:58 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <6syalxydnswy$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <$rfnxnBftbi$EwBO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066166601 24222555 217.137.94.19 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (1cc18a2e.38.489) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 792 Lines: 18 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:25 -0400, Jan scrawled: > Health conscious? There is nothing healthier than a good oggie, a > meal in a bag. Hang your head in shame. To deny your family > the delights of the oggie is unjust and unreasonable punishment. I > can become more indignant about not producing oggies than I can about > the Iraq fiasco. Saying Ahhhhhh does not reduce your culpability in > denying your family's favourites. Consider yourself told off. Do you > realise that in a more sensible age than the present, this would have > been worthy of a 'Letter to the Times'. > Jan (Suitably indignant) > "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" Whoops - val hangs head in shame LOL -- val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 22:21:33 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 21:49:36 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Secrets of a Spy Scandal... Message-ID: <20031014174936.06857.00000658@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 4217 Lines: 113 I love spy thrillahs, and this one is for real...He is critical of all parties in this mess. Marian http://www.iht.com/articles/113364.htm Secrets of a spy scandal ~ Nicholas D. Kristof of the NYT ~ 10/13/03 Like any good spy story, the Valerie Plame Wilson affair is far more complex than it seems on the surface. I know Mrs. Wilson, but I knew nothing about her CIA career and hadn't realized she's "a hell of a shot with an AK-47," as a classmate at the CIA training "farm," Jim Marcinkowski, recalls. I'll be more careful around her, for she also turns out to be skilled in throwing hand grenades and to have run covert operations in some of the world's messier spots. She was not a source for this column. Her operations remain secret, but there are several crucial facts that can be made public without putting anyone at risk - and together, they leave everybody looking bad. The CIA is conducting a damage assessment, which will determine what networks and operations it will have to close down. But my sense is that Democrats exaggerate the damage to Wilson's career and to her personal security, while Republicans vastly play down the enormity of the security breach and the danger to the assets she worked with. And now a few pertinent facts: First, the CIA suspected that Aldrich Ames had given Wilson's name to the Russians before his arrest for espionage in 1994. So her undercover security was undermined at that time and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons. Second, as Wilson rose in the agency, she was already in transition away from undercover work to management, and to liaison roles with other intelligence agencies. So this year, even before she was outed, she was moving away from "noc" - which means non-official cover, like pretending to be a business executive. After passing as an energy analyst for Brewster-Jennings Associates, a CIA front company, she was switching to a new cover as a State Department official, affording her diplomatic protection without having "CIA" stamped on her forehead. Third, Wilson's intelligence connections became known a bit in Washington as she rose in the CIA and moved to State Department cover, but her job remained a closely held secret. Even her classmates in the CIA's career training program mostly knew her only as Valerie P. That way, if one spook defected, the damage would be limited. All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole when they describe the White House as having put Wilson's life in danger and destroyed her career; her days skulking in the back alleys of cities like Beirut and Algiers were already mostly over. If Democrats have politicized the scandal and exaggerated it, Republicans have inexcusably tried to whitewash it. The leak risked the security of all operatives ever seen with Wilson. Unwitting sources will now realize that they were supplying the CIA with information, and even real agents may fear exposure and vanish. CIA veterans are seething, and rightly so, at the betrayal by their own government. Larry Johnson, who entered the agency at the same time as Wilson, is a Republican who voted for President George W. Bush - and he's so enraged that he compares the administration leaker to the spies Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen. "Here's a woman who put her life on the line," Johnson said. "But unlike a Navy Seal or a Marine, she didn't have a gun to fight back. All she had to protect her was her cover." We in journalism are also wrong, I think, to extend professional courtesy to Robert Novak, by looking beyond him to the leaker. True, he says he didn't think anyone would be endangered. Working abroad in ugly corners of the world, American journalists often learn the identities of American CIA officers, but we never publish their names. I find Novak's decision to do so just as inexcusable as the decision of administration officials to leak it. This scandal leaves everybody stinking. ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f89cb45$0$15134$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <5vakov0aladlj228pblk2hvkj0to0k8033@4ax.com> Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:50:14 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c6db0$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066167729 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1045 Lines: 32 > >You are right Eugene, there is no shortage of URL's > > Following up on myself > > This one is interesting because it shows that not all detainees were > captured in combat situations: > > http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/sep2003/guan-s19.shtml > > Another: > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96270,00.html > > This is one were a group of former U.S. federal judges, diplomats, > military officials and human rights advocates urged the Supreme Court on > Thursday to review the case of detainees held without being charged at > Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere in the name of terrorism. > > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=1896&e=5&u=/nm/ > 20031009/us_nm/rights_guantanamo_dc_3 ============= As you say, it's important to read a wide variety of sites in order to get the whole story and thus develop a fully informed opinion. To just read gov't sites and form an opinion from that is not to get the whole story, and gov't, any gov't tends to only offer information which supports their policy. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <88Gib.176660$0v4.13610391@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3F8B3432.BF2A603B@rcn.com> <3f8be66e$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:53:37 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c6e7c$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066167932 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1311 Lines: 40 > >> >Yoj wrote: > >> >> > >> >> You iron? Okay, there's one thing we don't have in common. I don't > >> >> even own an iron. > >> >> > >> >You have heard me say this before, but when my daughter was in > >> >kindergarten, she asked the teacher what an iron was.... > >> > > >> I iron only the shirts which need ironing. > >> > >> I don't brag about it though.... > >> -- > >> Gordon > >======= > >You mean you haven't been able to talk one of your girlie-girls into > >ironing them for you? Hope you're not losing your technique. > > > >Bobbie > > > One of? I don't fool around. > Mavis did ask me once if I wanted her to iron my shirts which were > hanging up in the lounge. I declined. > > I could have a life of ease if I brought her here from her rented house > and married her, and I know she would help to decorate and brighten up > the place. She would lose her pension supplement and her housing > benefit and I would pay over £200 more Council tax. I could put half > my savings in her name and save a little income tax. > She would get half my Company pension when I died. > > Sounds like a good deal for one of us... ;-) > -- > Gordon =========== It sounds like having a sexy friend but maintaining your own residences is the best option. That's my choice as well. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3F8B3432.BF2A603B@rcn.com> <20031014104814.13877.00000333@mb-m29.aol.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:56:53 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c6f40$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066168128 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 777 Lines: 25 . > >Yoj wrote: > >> > >> You iron? Okay, there's one thing we don't have in common. I don't > >> even own an iron. > >> > >You have heard me say this before, but when my daughter was in > >kindergarten, she asked the teacher what an iron was.... > > > >-- > >Jean B. > > LOL! I hadn't heard you say this before, Jean.I haven't touched an iron in > decades. Marian =============== Doesn't it get humid where you live? If you don't iron, you must wear synthetics, like I do in winter. I don't like ironing which is why I have this special system of hanging clothes on the hoist, so they come out looking almost ironed and only need a minor touch up before I put them on. As I said, I get a heat rash if I wear a synthetic when it's hot and humid. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 21:58:26 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The California Recall and how I would vote Message-ID: <20031014175826.06857.00000659@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 1228 Lines: 54 Granholm sounds excellent. First term? Would make an excellent veep choice in '08, for sure~if she can get re-elected for a second... There is SO much hostility about in the land toward Hillary that I just wish she'd be happy with a Senate career into her dotage. Hate the thought of how ugly it could get... Marian >From: "Joan F \(MI\)" jjfahl@netzero.net >Can't think of any but Granholm has been a very fast rising political star. >She seems to be doing pretty well at not making people too unhappy in a >terrible situation, bad budget crunch, Republican legislature. She's very >personable, bright and exudes confidence, a bit softer Hillary perhaps, and >without the Clinton baggage. >Cool. I've learned that Barney Frank is co-sponsoring legislation to begin >to >make this change, Joan, and there seems no real reason not to. It'll take a >while, but maybe Granholm will be a player... Romney [pere]. Who else from >Michigan has been a presidential candidate in the past? Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <88Gib.176660$0v4.13610391@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f8b5533$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C01D7.79672AB@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:59:46 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c6fed$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066168301 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1160 Lines: 29 "> > I have no choice in summer. The only sensible things to wear in the > > tropical heat are cotton items. They breathe whereas the synthetics > > don't. Synthetics cause heat rashes, which is why my bras and > > knickers are also cotton. > > > > However, that's why I only iron what I'm planning to wear. > > Don't want to make a chore of it. I heat the iron while in the shower, > > walk out in the nutty and iron or at least take the worse wrinkles out > > of the cotton items. I don't do any ironing in winter. Thus my > > ironing board becomes a depository for other items in winter. > > > That's whay I wear cotton t-shirts. No ironing--plus they are > comfortable. > > -- > Jean B. =========== I find they look a bit better when they've had an iron to touch them up. However, that's only for the ones I wear when I'm going out. I do NOT iron the ones I wear around the house. Suti, Sasha and my friends don't mind a wrinkle or two. You should see the procedure I have when I hang up clothes so that they dry and look mostly ironed. My next door neighbour laughs when she sees my 'ironing on the line' methods...but they work. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B32DD.4E4C7827@rcn.com> <3f8b55d3$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0227.3AA6FFE6@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:02:20 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c7087$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066168455 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1668 Lines: 42 "> > "> Barbara Christian wrote: > > > > > > > > Your computer room looks very cosy and well organised. I note that > > > > you also have a TV there so you can do as I do, watch important > > > > programs while on the computer. The only problem I'd have with > > > > that room is that there's no window. I need to have windows. My > > > > computer room has a huge window. I'm looking out the window > > > > as I type, at palms, mock orange, bottle brush, tibouchina, mock > > > > orange, hibiscus, tree ferns, etc. > > > > > > > Oh, I miss being able to look outside from the computer. I could > > > do that at dad's house. Now, even though I have windows in front > > > of my computer, they are so high I can't see anything. The only > > > thing they do is let in the blinding sun in the morning. I can't > > > even open them. > > > > > > I thought that TV was a second monitor. I LIKE the idea of > > > having a little TV in here. I watch NO TV now. The only problem > > > is I have no extra outlets, although in the winter, I could use > > > the AC's outlet.... > > > > > > -- > > > Jean B. > > ========= > > I had extra power points put in....to accommodate my computer, phone, > > fax, TV, radio and air conditioner in summer, fan heater in winter. > > > > Bobbie > > How much of a job is that? If it were easy, I suppose Leah's dad > might have tackled that, since he is an EE, among other things. > -- > Jean B. ============ I made a list of electrical work I wanted done then called my electrician and he put in the whole lot at once. That included 2 extra outside power points and a green spotlight which shines on the pond at night. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:04:35 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Message-ID: <20031014180435.06857.00000660@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 3065 Lines: 91 >>For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal >>political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far >>better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. >> If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to >>Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. >> America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and >>could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. >>*That* would have been something for which to be proud. >> A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the >>world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be >>born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its >>entire history. >> It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war >>when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. >>Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount >>of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is >>going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that >>*some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was >>first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it >>into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. >> To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on >>this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in >>which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat >>going on somewhere. >> My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to >>England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that >>since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in >>that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . >>If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to >>check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades >>into insignificance. >> >>That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. >> >>Jan > >I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation >the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two >irreconcilable ideologies. > >One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is >conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) >and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its >day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. >Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness >to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. > >Paul Quite so, Paul Sinclair has left for Oz. On Thursday I leave for France for a month. Should be a respite in 'bickering' threads for a time... Y'all will have to find your *own* articles. Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:04:33 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <9990-3F8C72F1-256@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQPgu8Xx4xGqYYnRF61T0vj0HXS0gIUUlIZlp6gKetf1aWtoYxp4ZF6vYQ= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 880 Lines: 17 Gordon wrote: "wears her hair long enough to fall on her shoulders, even when waved, which she does herself with heated rollers. =A0 It seemed such a chore when she washed and curled it that I persuaded her to go to a hairdresser and have it shortened. =A0 Big mistake. It was just before we went on our first and only holiday together, and she spent the whole fortnight moaning about the fact that because I had talked her into shortening it, she could not 'take it up' on top properly. She is too 'appearance orientated'.... When I suggested it I was thinking of a much shorter length that would be less work and quickly dressed up by the hotel hairdresser for special evenings. =A0 8-( --" ****************************************** That's a No-No Gordon; don't try to get a woman to change her hair because she'll hate it no matter what and blame it on you! 8-) Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:08:07 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20031014180807.06857.00000661@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 1095 Lines: 57 >>You mean you haven't been able to talk one of your girlie-girls into >>ironing them for you? Hope you're not losing your technique. >> >>Bobbie >> >One of? I don't fool around. >Mavis did ask me once if I wanted her to iron my shirts which were >hanging up in the lounge. I declined. > >I could have a life of ease if I brought her here from her rented house >and married her, and I know she would help to decorate and brighten up >the place. She would lose her pension supplement and her housing >benefit and I would pay over £200 more Council tax. I could put half >my savings in her name and save a little income tax. >She would get half my Company pension when I died. > >Sounds like a good deal for one of us... ;-) >-- >Gordon Wow. Talk about a "marriage penalty"! Jesus or Dubya's gonna git y'all for that, you heathen Brits... Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:10:42 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20031014181042.06857.00000662@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 802 Lines: 58 >>> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. >>> > > >>> > > Bobbie >>> > >>> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they >>> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. >>> > -- >>> > Jean B. >>> ====== >>> So do I. >>> Bobbie >> >>Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out >>looking at shirts. Ugh. >> >I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... >I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. >-- >Gordon More men should do this. You're impossible to shop for otherwise. Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b58f0$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be6bf$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:13:11 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c7312$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169106 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1585 Lines: 42 > >> My wife used to say that clothes needed to blow in the open air to dry > >> soft and fresh. I bought a tumble dryer a few months ago and now I > >> know different. When M**** first came to my house I had difficulty > >> finding towels she regarded as 'soft'. > >> I nearly always dry them in the dryer now, and they are softer than they > >> ever were. Leave them out on a sunny day and they dry like boards... > >> > >> Even the best conditions - a lively breeze and dry cloudy day, doesn't > >> get them as soft as the dryer. > >> -- > >> Gordon > >========= > >I'd rather have crispy towels which have that wonderful sun-dried > >smell. Besides, it doesn't use any electricity. > > > >Bobbie > > > Want a dry rub down? Ooooh Look - you're all pink! > > I have noticed no difference in my leccy bill. > -- > Gordon =========== Aside from winter, the towels become soft anyway, due to the humidity. Dryers really use electricity. All our appliances here have an energy rating, stars from one to 6. Most of my appliances have 5-6. Even my air con has 4œ. I have a dryer which is almost an antique so it doesn't have an energy rating, but my neighbour just bought a new one and the energy rating is 1œ. In other words, it uses a lot of electricity. I have $70/month automatically debited to Energex. I'm $147 in the black at present. It is usually used up in summer with the air con. However, if I don't use it all by next March, I may cut the monthly debit down to $60-65/month, since I now have solar Hart so don't pay anything for my hot water anymore. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be753$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:14:13 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c7350$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169168 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1692 Lines: 57 > >> >> [sea wrote] [...] > >> >> > > Joy - It's true that we women are not forced to dress up. > >> >> > > However, if I hadn't dressed a certain way when I was > >> >> > > younger, my husband wouldn't have given me a tumble. > >> >> > > And I like to tumble. LOL [...] > >> >> > >> >> > I met my husband on a church retreat, where we all slept in bunks, > >had > >> >> > breakfast together, and spent most of the day outdoors. He didn't > >have > >> >> > any unpleasant surprises when we got married, because he already knew > >> >> > the worst. Nowadays, I take my motto from Flip Wilson's Geraldine - > >> >> > What you see is what you get! > >> >> > Joy > >> >> > >> >> At least that's honest. > >> >> But some people (like myself) need all the help we can get > >> >> in the appearance department. > >> >> ---Sea > >> >============= > >> > >> >To me you're beautiful.....it's the inner beauty which counts. > >> > > >> >Bobbie > >> > > >> She's OK. I wouldn't kick her out of bed. > >> (That b***** dog is a different story) ;-) > >> > >> One of my buddies said to me "You think ALL women are attractive". > >> Just because I find mature, 'less than perfect' women have a certain > >> appeal.... > >> > >> They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I > >> flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see > >> themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. ;-) > >> -- > >> Gordon > >=========== > >Those comments show that you have matured and can now > >see inner beauty. > > > >Bobbie > > > Thank you. > > It also widens the 'field' considerably for me. ;-) > -- > Gordon ======= That's true as well. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:14:30 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Message-ID: <20031014181430.06857.00000663@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 734 Lines: 48 There you go! Pick up a paintbrush and help him with those chores. Anyone can do that, and it'll keep him happy... Marian >Yes, he has been totally immersed in home improvement projects since he >retired. I keep thinking he will run out of things to do but he keeps >thinking of more. We do have some painting that needs to be done but that >is one of his least favorite things so he has been putting it off. >That man of yours is awesomely clever, Joan. Better watch him carefully... > > >Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:14:56 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c737a$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169210 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1703 Lines: 52 > > >> [sea wrote] [...] > > >> > > Joy - It's true that we women are not forced to dress up. > > >> > > However, if I hadn't dressed a certain way when I was > > >> > > younger, my husband wouldn't have given me a tumble. > > >> > > And I like to tumble. LOL [...] > > >> > > >> > I met my husband on a church retreat, where we all slept in > bunks, had > > >> > breakfast together, and spent most of the day outdoors. He > didn't have > > >> > any unpleasant surprises when we got married, because he already > knew > > >> > the worst. Nowadays, I take my motto from Flip Wilson's > Geraldine - > > >> > What you see is what you get! > > >> > Joy > > >> > > >> At least that's honest. > > >> But some people (like myself) need all the help we can get > > >> in the appearance department. > > >> ---Sea > > >============= > > > > >To me you're beautiful.....it's the inner beauty which counts. > > > > > >Bobbie > > > > > She's OK. I wouldn't kick her out of bed. > > (That b***** dog is a different story) ;-) > > > > One of my buddies said to me "You think ALL women are attractive". > > Just because I find mature, 'less than perfect' women have a certain > > appeal.... > > > > They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I > > flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see > > themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. ;-) > > -- > > Gordon > > Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much > more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) > than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > perfect "10". > > Joy ======== They're the shallow ones. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:15:15 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <9990-3F8C7573-258@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f8b296a$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQolYCoDcYGaMNSCTtFYTiRT05L4wIUSOEsAQDKoVkP01rwM5w1WlFFldE= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 465 Lines: 9 Bobbie wrote: "I don't care what lippy I put on, it has disappeared within half an hour. Krysti has the same problem." **************************************** I have the same problem unless I use "colorstays" lipstick. I think it is by Revlon. (The print on the end of the tube was too small for my old eyes, even with a magnifying glass.) Comes in a long tube. It lasts several hours, and when it is all gone, I can't see it so I don't care! 8-) Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:16:09 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power Message-ID: <20031014181609.06857.00000664@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 711 Lines: 56 >Marian wrote >>> I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans >>>> are stretch jeans. >>>> >>>> Bobbie >>> >>>I don't know Tar-jay.... >>>-- >>>Jean B. >> >>Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? > >Have a silver star in your exercise book, go top of the class, and stay >behind and see me after lessons. There could be a gold star in it for >you............ >-- >Gordon Cool. Er...what did you have in mind? Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:16:21 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c73cf$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169296 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 610 Lines: 15 > Joy (I think) wrote: "I wear lipstick all the time, but I don't own any > other makeup." > *************************************** > I have other makeup but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had > extremely dry skin, but the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup looks > splotchy after it's been on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the > mood strikes me! I do use moisturizers religiously. Jeanette ========== I have the same problem with extremely dry skin in winter. It's a lot better in summer with the humidity. I use moisturising cleansers and moisturisers religiously as well. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> <1hi7pa4dls80l.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:16:57 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c73f4$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169332 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 650 Lines: 19 > > Joy (I think) wrote: "I wear lipstick all the time, but I don't own any > > other makeup." > > *************************************** > > I have other makeup but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had > > extremely dry skin, but the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup looks > > splotchy after it's been on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the > > mood strikes me! I do use moisturizers religiously. Jeanette > > Although I have fair skin I never seem to need moisturisers! I wash my face > with soap and water - well a liquid soap called Dove which is kind to skin. > -- > val ========== You are very fortunate, Val. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:18:57 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c746c$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169452 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 939 Lines: 26 "Joy (I think) wrote: "I wear lipstick all the time, but I don't own > any > > other makeup." > > *************************************** > > I have other makeup but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had > > extremely dry skin, but the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup > looks > > splotchy after it's been on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the > > mood strikes me! I do use moisturizers religiously. Jeanette > > I did try wearing foundation for a while, but I found that the area over > my upper lip always looked as though I hadn't put any makeup on that > spot. It looked weird, so I decided to save the cost and trouble of > using the foundation. > > Joy ========= I must check that out next time I put some foundation on. I use such a teeny amount when I do use it that I'm not even sure it shows. I've had the same small jar of foundation for 4 years so I obviously don't wear much...or very often. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:19:23 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: And here's another on Message-ID: <20031014181923.06857.00000665@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 468 Lines: 43 >>[Great page, Sea!] Reminds me to wonder where did the phrase, "Creature with >>two backs" come from? >> >"Beast with two backs" is more alliterative. :-) >-- >Gordon Yes, of course it is. Stupid of me. So, where did it come from? Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F894AC5.A79E8FE4@rcn.com> <3f895b05$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8961EC.CB4CCE53@rcn.com> <3f89cdc5$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB5E0.412B8243@rcn.com> <3f8b2aaf$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B3397.D3FDB591@rcn.com> <3f8b51be$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C017A.6442FD45@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:20:01 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c74ac$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169516 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1478 Lines: 47 > > "Joan F ... > > > > > Now, I think jeans are uncomfortable. They are too stiff and > > constricting > > > > > and not at all warm when it is cold. I like cotton knit pants with > > > > elastic > > > > > waists, sweats in the winter, though I have some light weight woven > > Capri > > > > > length pants that I wear in the warm weather, also with elastic > > waists, > > > > > though. > > > > ========= > > > > It's interesting how different people feel comfortable in different > > clothes. > > > > I wear trackies(sweats) at home in winter, until I go out. It's still a > > bit > > > > chilly this morning and I am wearing my trackies. Capri pants are > > > > pedal pusher length, aren't they? That's what I wear in summer when > > > > I go out. Elastic waists are indeed comfortable. I wear stretch jeans > > > > so the waist expands in them. I find the slacks which don't have > > > > elastic waist bands uncomfortable. > > > > > > > > Bobbie > > > > > > You can find stretch jeans with stretchy waists? I have never > > > seen them. The waists are always so unyielding even when the rest > > > of the clothing is comfortable. I don't know why more clothing is > > > not made for comfort.... > > > -- > > > Jean B. > > ========= > > I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans > > are stretch jeans. > > > > Bobbie > > I don't know Tar-jay.... > -- > Jean B. ============ Target.......Tar-jay when one's pretending one's a poshy. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3F8C017A.6442FD45@rcn.com> <20031014105933.13877.00000334@mb-m29.aol.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:22:24 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c753b$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169659 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 495 Lines: 20 > > I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans > >> are stretch jeans. > >> > >> Bobbie > > > >I don't know Tar-jay.... > >-- > >Jean B. > > Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? That's how a daughter > refers to it here. Dint know it was in Oz though... Marian ======== You're spot on, Marian. Target here is owned by Myers now, a big Aussie department store, etc. Target has many of the same items as Myers but they're less expensive. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3F8C017A.6442FD45@rcn.com> <20031014105933.13877.00000334@mb-m29.aol.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:23:00 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c755f$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169695 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 479 Lines: 21 > >> I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans > >>> are stretch jeans. > >>> > >>> Bobbie > >> > >>I don't know Tar-jay.... > >>-- > >>Jean B. > > > >Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? > > Have a silver star in your exercise book, go top of the class, and stay > behind and see me after lessons. There could be a gold star in it for > you............ > -- > Gordon ======== You're right......she does deserve a gold star. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:23:24 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <9991-3F8C775C-98@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f8b2aaf$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAxshBa74ADkjJENdT06Td3xlbqswCFQCJOrRP/OIYj34358Eptj164p1hoQ== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 1168 Lines: 20 Bobbiewrote: "It's interesting how different people feel comfortable in different clothes. I wear trackies(sweats) at home in winter, until I go out. It's still a bit chilly this morning and I am wearing my trackies. Capri pants are pedal pusher length, aren't they? That's what I wear in summer when I go out. Elastic waists are indeed comfortable. I wear stretch jeans so the waist expands in them. I find the slacks which don't have elastic waist bands uncomfortable." **************************************** I wear pants with elastic in the waist. I don't like blue jeans because they feel to constricting. I have a couple of pairs of pedal pushers, now called "capri pants". In my heyday, capri pants fitted closer to the legs. I call them pedal pushers because they are a little looser in the leg. Abut the elasticized wists in pants, I usually sit down and rip out the elastic from the front, stitch securely and voila, my tummie has breathing room. Some pants even in the same sizes, have uncomfortable waistlines and ripping out the elastic from the front makes them much more comfortable. I can't stand anything too tight around my waist. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:24:09 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c75a4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169764 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 435 Lines: 23 > > > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. > > > > > > > > Bobbie > > > > > > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they > > > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. > > > -- > > > Jean B. > > ====== > > So do I. > > Bobbie > > Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out > looking at shirts. Ugh. > > -- > Jean B. ========== Off you go then. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:25:10 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c75e4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169833 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 578 Lines: 24 > >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. > >> > > > >> > > Bobbie > >> > > >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they > >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. > >> > -- > >> > Jean B. > >> ====== > >> So do I. > >> Bobbie > > > >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out > >looking at shirts. Ugh. > > > I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... > I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. > -- > Gordon ========== That's pretty dear, isn't it? Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <$rfnxnBftbi$EwBO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:25:56 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c7610$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169872 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 610 Lines: 23 > > > When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often and > > great > >> favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious I > >> hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( > >> Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! > >> -- > >> val > > ========== > > I lashed out today and had a proper Cornish pastie. I'll be good for the > > next month and then will lash out again. > > > Bobbie > > My fave lash out is fish and chips - mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! > -- > val =========== I do that once a month as well.....and pizza once a month. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:26:22 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Message-ID: <20031014182622.06857.00000666@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 708 Lines: 48 >>I keep up with Eastenders here. We're in 1999... Anyone else watch this? >Brits? >>What's going on there currently? >> >Dirty Den is back. That's all I know, never watched it. >The bad news is - you are going to lose Eastenders. Didn't you know? >My daughter is furious....... >-- >Gordon Back from the dead? I loved Den. Grieved when he died. Lose it? Why? We're seeing it [2 episodes] at 11:00 pm on Sunday nights, and 4 years behind...How could PBS get away with that? Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:27:28 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066169963 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1268 Lines: 37 > >> > When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often and > >> great > >>> favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious I > >>> hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( > >>> Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! > >>> -- > >>> val > >> ========== > >> I lashed out today and had a proper Cornish pastie. I'll be good for the > >> next month and then will lash out again. > > > >> Bobbie > > > >My fave lash out is fish and chips - mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! > > > Val, > On my infrequent trips to the UK there are a few things I always > attempt to sample once again. Clotted cream, Oggies, Scrumpy, draft > bitter and fish and chips. Other than the oggies which I make myself, > the others are not quite the same in Canada, although I can get most > of them. The best fish and chips I've had here were from a store run > by a man from Afghanistan who told me he had worked in a fish and chip > shop in England before leaving for Canada. > I've just discovered a source here for Mamade, wow, does that ever > make good marmalade. > > Jan ========== I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:29:23 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c76de$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066170078 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 940 Lines: 27 > > Val, > > On my infrequent trips to the UK there are a few things I always > > attempt to sample once again. Clotted cream, Oggies, Scrumpy, draft > > bitter and fish and chips. Other than the oggies which I make myself, > > the others are not quite the same in Canada, although I can get most > > of them. The best fish and chips I've had here were from a store run > > by a man from Afghanistan who told me he had worked in a fish and chip > > shop in England before leaving for Canada. > > I've just discovered a source here for Mamade, wow, does that ever > > make good marmalade. > > Farm made clotted cream is to die for Mmmmmm! Now I wouldn't touch Marmade > if it was given to me. When I make marmalade I use fresh Seville oranges, > demerra sugar and chunks of crystallised ginger - it tastes great :) > > > -- > val ========== Your marmalade sounds wonderful. I don't make my own but do buy English marmalade. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:32:10 GMT References: <9jhfkus5wng9.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Message-ID: <20031014183210.06857.00000668@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 487 Lines: 50 >> I keep up with Eastenders here. We're in 1999... Anyone else watch this? >Brits? >> What's going on there currently? > >> Marian > >Dirty Den is back! >-- >val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 17:58:59 >http://copelands.co.uk/val Didn't he die? a puzzled Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:34:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b58f0$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be6bf$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c7312$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-81-13.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.81.13) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066170894 23777065 68.79.81.13 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 1070 Lines: 24 I have a gas dryer, of course it uses electricity to turn the drum but that's nowhere near what it takes to produce the heat. I don't use it a whole lot, though as it's only a few things that I put in the dryer. "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8c7312$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... Aside from winter, the towels become soft anyway, due to the humidity. Dryers really use electricity. All our appliances here have an energy rating, stars from one to 6. Most of my appliances have 5-6. Even my air con has 4œ. I have a dryer which is almost an antique so it doesn't have an energy rating, but my neighbour just bought a new one and the energy rating is 1œ. In other words, it uses a lot of electricity. I have $70/month automatically debited to Energex. I'm $147 in the black at present. It is usually used up in summer with the air con. However, if I don't use it all by next March, I may cut the monthly debit down to $60-65/month, since I now have solar Hart so don't pay anything for my hot water anymore. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:35:05 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Message-ID: <20031014183505.06857.00000669@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 1483 Lines: 69 >>>>The were combatants so they are being held legally. >>>> >>>>They will be held until all information possible has been extracted from >them >>>>and/or they are no longer a threat to the United States of America. >>>> >>>> >>>Eugene, they are NOT all combatants. One at least was detained in >>>Pakistan. The others may be classed as combatants once they have been >>>tried, until then they are the accused. >> >> >>Depends on which side of the gun barrel you were on I guess. There is no >>shortage of URl's on the subject. >> > >You are right Eugene, there is no shortage of URL's > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1766037.stm >http://web.amnesty.org/web/wire.nsf/April2002/guantanamo >http://www.dawn.com/2003/08/13/int8.htm >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/archive/2524241.stm >-- >Mike Clayton >Reputation is what other people know about you. Honour is what you know about >yourself. Lois McMaster Bujold, "A Civil Campaign", 1999 >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton Add Neil Lewis of the NYTimes to that list. He was on the NewsHour tonight after a recent visit to Guantanamo... Red Cross is complaining of the mental condition of the prisoners after such a long time. Many suicide attempts, much depression... Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:37:23 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Message-ID: <20031014183723.06857.00000670@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 1360 Lines: 71 >>>You are right Eugene, there is no shortage of URL's >> >>Following up on myself >> >>This one is interesting because it shows that not all detainees were >>captured in combat situations: >> >>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/sep2003/guan-s19.shtml >> >>Another: >> >>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96270,00.html >> >>This is one were a group of former U.S. federal judges, diplomats, >>military officials and human rights advocates urged the Supreme Court on >>Thursday to review the case of detainees held without being charged at >>Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere in the name of terrorism. >> > >>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=1896&e=5&u=/nm /20031009/us_nm/rights_guantanamo_dc_3 > > >No doubt there is a lot of tugging back and forth. > >However I think the URL's I provided, from official gov. sources, >http://usinfo.state.gov , covers most to the questions. > >You will have to decide for yourself which is accurate. > > >-- >Eugene A. Calame Oh sure, we should certainly look to *government* websites for the real skinny on illegally imprisonment. Are you nuts? Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:37:30 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <9990-3F8C7AAA-259@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f8b4328$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRYD1VMyXf+aDFsY3NzaqR5re4uwgIVALIT+V1ce0Q75NBVCusXpg8vhmMM Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 1275 Lines: 22 Bobbie responded to my comment about the little slogan about women: "I have a saying I found once, back in the 70/80's I think: "Whatever women do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult." I stuck this to my bulletin board over my desk and memorized it. I guess that is why women are expected to do twice as much work as men and why the "glass ceiling" still exists! - Salary cap. =A0 Women usually do a better job than men in some professions, or at least as well as, but the "glass ceiling" hits them in the head as far as salary and/or promotion. Jeanette =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Good assessment.....We have a problem with the glass ceiling here as well. Bobbie" **************************************** Whenever my boss came into my office, he scowled at the saying. I asked him if he was going to make me take it down but he said no, but that is was sexist. He continued scowling every time he came in my office. After about a year, I got a different desk with different overhead cabinets, so I stuck it to the inside of one of the cabinet doors. I don't think he even realized it was gone! Today I have a secretary style desk with a drop-down leaf and I keep it stuck in there. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7j7oov8ua604pe8cj3k2h6uenkuct1uvp5@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:38:23 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c78fa$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066170618 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1256 Lines: 36 "> > > When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often and > >great > >> favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious I > >> hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( > >> Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! > >> -- > >> val > >========== > >I lashed out today and had a proper Cornish pastie. I'll be good for the > >next month and then will lash out again. > > > >Bobbie > > > > Bobbie, > I would question the phrase 'proper' Cornish pastie. I say this > because I've never found one outside of Cornwall or Devon. I've seen > many advertised, but were never the real thing. > Tell me, what are the dimensions of your Cornish pasties, and what are > the ingredients? > > Jan (A purist when it comes to oggies) > "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" =========== It's about the size of a side plate lengthwise, a proper triangle. Ingredients: chopped steak, potato, turnip, leeks. It looks totally different and tastes totally different than the other pasties sold here. The baker is from Cornwall and has the accent to match, so I assume it's the real thing. It certainly tastes and looks the same as the Cornish pasties I had when in Cornwall. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The California Recall and how I would vote Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:40:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20031014175826.06857.00000659@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-81-13.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.81.13) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066171246 24155680 68.79.81.13 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 892 Lines: 36 Yes, people either love Hillary or hate her, seems no middle ground. She really is very popular with a lot of people, her book sold very well and when you match her up against Bush in the polls she comes out ahead. Jennifer Granholm was just elected last November, she was Attorney General before that. Replaced a Republican who decimated state services such as mental health care. Pretty hard to rebuild those things now with the revenue picture so bad. "Marian" wrote in message news:20031014175826.06857.00000659@mb-m20.aol.com... Granholm sounds excellent. First term? Would make an excellent veep choice in '08, for sure~if she can get re-elected for a second... There is SO much hostility about in the land toward Hillary that I just wish she'd be happy with a Senate career into her dotage. Hate the thought of how ugly it could get... Marian From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:40:31 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Iraq War Justification Message-ID: <20031014184031.06857.00000671@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 6799 Lines: 201 It is to be hoped that by the time you get back, Bob will have gone to the site, read and studied these sources you so patiently offer him here, Sinclair. I personally believe that he has a learning disability... Marian >> > > >> Israel is in violation of 66 other UN SC resolutions >> > > >> >> > > >> UN Resolutions pertaining to Israel: >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >Only Security Council resolutions that PASS are important. All full >> > Council >> > > >UN Resolutions are just suggestions. >> > > >> > > They can fail with just one veto, can they not? >> > > A veto from a member with votes at risk back home? >> > > -- >> > > Gordon >> > >> > Dear Bob >> > >> > Israel is in violation of 68 passed resolutions. >> > >> You are mistaken if you think any of them are Security Council >resolutions. >> >> cheers >> >> bob > >Dear Bob > >Finished packing leave for my plane in 1 hour how ever if I am mistaken so >is the United States Government, prehaps they does not keep accurate >records. They list 68 passed resolutions. > >There are 68 passed Security Council Resolutions the source is source I have >listed 3 here. from "This site is managed by the Bureau of Public Affairs, >U.S. Department of State."www.state.gov/p/nea/rt/11135.htm > >UN Security Council Resolution 1402 > >This Resolution was by a vote of 14-0. The full text follows. > >Resolution 1402 (2002) >Adopted by the Security Council at its 4503rd meeting, on 30 March 2002 > >The Security Council, Reaffirming its resolutions 242 (1967) of 22 November >1967, 338 (1973) of 22 October 1973, 1397 (2002) of 12 March 2002, and the >Madrid principles, > >Expressing its grave concern at the further deterioration of the situation, >including the recent suicide bombings in Israel and the military attack >against the headquarters of the President of the Palestinian Authority, > > 1.. Calls upon both parties to move immediately to a meaningful ceasefire; >calls for the withdrawal of Israeli troops from Palestinian cities, >including Ramallah; and calls upon the parties to cooperate fully with >Special Envoy Zinni, and others, to implement the Tenet security work plan >as a first step towards implementation of the Mitchell Committee >recommendations, with the aim of resuming negotiations on a political >settlement; > > 2.. Reiterates its demand in resolution 1397 (2002) of 12 March 2002 for >an immediate cessation of all acts of violence, including all acts of >terror, provocation, incitement and destruction; > > 3.. Expresses support for the efforts of the Secretary-General and the >special envoys to the Middle East to assist the parties to halt the violence >and to resume the peace process; > > 4.. Decides to remain seized of the matter. >source This site is managed by the Bureau of Public Affairs, U.S. Department >of State. > > >Resolution 1397 (2002) >Adopted by the Security Council at its 4489th meeting, on 12 March 2002 > > > > "The Security Council, > > "Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular >resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973), > > "Affirming a vision of a region where two States, Israel and Palestine, >live side by side within secure and recognized borders, > > "Expressing its grave concern at the continuation of the tragic and >violent events that have taken place since September 2000, especially the >recent attacks and the increased number of casualties, > > "Stressing the need for all concerned to ensure the safety of civilians, > > "Stressing also the need to respect the universally accepted norms of >international humanitarian law, > > "Welcoming and encouraging the diplomatic efforts of special envoys from >the United States of America, the Russian Federation, the European Union and >the United Nations Special Coordinator and others to bring about a >comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East, > > "Welcoming the contribution of Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, > > "1. Demands immediate cessation of all acts of violence, including all >acts of terror, provocation, incitement and destruction; > > "2. Calls upon the Israeli and Palestinian sides and their leaders to >cooperate in the implementation of the Tenet work plan and Mitchell Report >recommendations with the aim of resuming negotiations on a political >settlement; > > "3. Expresses support for the efforts of the Secretary-General and others >to assist the parties to halt the violence and to resume the peace process; > > "4. Decides to remain seized of the matter." > U.N. Security Council Resolution 242 > November 22, 1967 > The Security Council, > Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle >East, > > Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and >the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the >area can live in security, > > Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the >Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in >accordance with Article 2 of the Charter, > > > 1.. Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the >establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should >include the application of both the following principles: > > a.. Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in >the recent conflict; > b.. Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect >for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and >political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in >peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of >force; > > 2.. Affirms further the necessity > > a.. For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international >waterways in the area; > b.. For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem; > c.. For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political >independence of every State in the area, through measures including the >establishment of demilitarized zones; > > 3.. Requests the Secretary General to designate a Special Representative >to proceed to the Middle East to establish and maintain contacts with the >States concerned in order to promote agreement and assist efforts to achieve >a peaceful and accepted settlement in accordance with the provisions and >principles in this resolution; > > 4.. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on >the progress of the efforts of the Special Representative as soon as >possible. > > > >Sinclair ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:40:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066175376 17236 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 23:49:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 3655 Lines: 72 Aries wrote >On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 -0400, Jan scrawled: > >> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:34:13 +0100, Gordon >> wrote: > >>>Barbara Christian wrote >>>>> Do you think it was their slightly British accents? >>>>> Somehow, some British accents sound so posh. >>>>> T'isn't fair, is it. >>>>> After all, it's only an accent like any other accent. >>>>> Why should we prefer it? >>>>> ---Sea, who thinks about things like this... >>>>================ >>>>Depends on the English accent. There's a huge difference >>>>in them. Cockney doesn't sound so posh, for example. >>>> >>>>Bobbie >>>> >>>I could never stand to watch Eastenders. The accents are absolutely >>>ghaaaaastly my dear! :-) > >> >> Gordon and Val, >> The first time Eastenders was shown here, my youngest son wanted to >> watch it. So, like a dutiful father I sat through it with him. >> Once it was over, his comment was, "That looks like a good show, what >> the hell were they saying?" Dad had to move into translation mode. >> To side-track a little. On my last visit to England, I noticed that >> regional accents were fading away and being replaced with some sort of >> pseudo South Coast accent. The older people still had the West >> Country burr but the kids seemed to be losing it. Is this general? >> A very good friend of mine, a genuine Devon Dumpling maid told me >> that her husband had never heard a Cornish accent. >> She took him to a place that she remembered well from her child-hood, >> which was Marazion. They went on a tour of St. Michael's Mount, the >> home of Lord St.Levan. St. Michael's Mount used to be a small fishing >> village separated from the main-land at high tide, and the tours were >> conducted by men and women from the village, so the Cornish accent was >> very much in evidence. To her horror, and as she described it, "The >> tours are now done by toffee-nosed kids with Oxford accents who don't >> know anything about the area." >> She felt the guide assigned to her party was particularly obnoxious >> and over-bearing so decided to have some fun. During the tour, the >> name of a famous West Country smuggler was mentioned. She raised her >> hand, and when she was acknowledged, commented in the broad Devon >> accent she can use on occasion, "I knows ee. Ee were my >> great-great-grand-father", which he was. Strangely she said, the >> guide was not impressed and merely said, "Quite, madam". >> Following the tour, she cornered one of the guides and asked if John >> was home. When they asked who John was, she told them it was Lord St. >> Leven, and as a child she went out in the race committee boat with him >> on regatta nights, knew him quite well and would like to visit if he >> was home. She said the expressions on their faces were a sight to >> behold. Unfortunately they had no luck at hearing the true Cornish >> accent there. > >> Jan >> "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" > >We used to farm in North Dev0n, our daughter is still there and her partner >is a farmer. He and his family still speak with a lovely soft Devon accent >with lots of ee's and old fashioned country language. I hope country >accents won't die out, we will be poorer without them I fear. Well, they aren't in the North! I have a definite Lancashire/Manchester accent. I only went to Cornwall once on a Plymouth coach holiday, when we had a day excursion to Looe. Our driver for the five days had a broad Cornish accent, and we called at a place where we were given a welcome in Cornish language by a lady. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <$rfnxnBftbi$EwBO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b41d1$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8bc44d$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1wp1c6av1vrhi.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:41:47 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c79c6$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066170822 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 514 Lines: 21 > I'll be content with TV coverage as well. It has the additional > >>> advantages of instant replay and no crowds. > >>> Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! > >>> Bobbie > >> E N G L A N D ! Come on you Poms LOL > >> val > > Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! LOL > > > Bobbie > > hehehehe we could go on like this all day! > I await the outcome of the game with baited breath! -- > val ============== So will I. The two games I'm most interested in are with England and New Zealand. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8b429e$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031014110309.13877.00000335@mb-m29.aol.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:43:13 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c7a1c$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066170908 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 794 Lines: 35 . > >> >Dear Gordon > >> > > >> >That's cause you got no hair! I am off to Oz tomorrow. Lady wife to see > >her > >> >family and I guess I just poke around Sydney, maybe go to the Opera, down > >> >the rocks or something. > >> > > >> >Sinclair > >> > > >> >PS Any one got extra tickets to the Rugby? Hell with the opera > >> > > >> >Sinclair > >> > >> Have a good time, Sinclair! Bon Voyage! > >> I leave for France Thursday. > >> > >> Marian > >======== > >You're just missing Sinclair. Have a good time in France > >and enjoy yourself. > > > >Bobbie > > Thanks, Bobbie! I intend to. Won't have time to miss anybody for long, as I'll > be gone from here for a month starting Thursday... Marian =========== Will await your return and anecdotes about your time in France. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:43:57 +0100 Message-ID: <9XynuYAtwHj$EwrT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <20031014180807.06857.00000661@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066175380 17236 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 23:49:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 991 Lines: 28 Marian wrote >>>You mean you haven't been able to talk one of your girlie-girls into >>>ironing them for you? Hope you're not losing your technique. >>> >>>Bobbie >>> >>One of? I don't fool around. >>Mavis did ask me once if I wanted her to iron my shirts which were >>hanging up in the lounge. I declined. >> >>I could have a life of ease if I brought her here from her rented house >>and married her, and I know she would help to decorate and brighten up >>the place. She would lose her pension supplement and her housing >>benefit and I would pay over £200 more Council tax. I could put half >>my savings in her name and save a little income tax. >>She would get half my Company pension when I died. >> >>Sounds like a good deal for one of us... ;-) >>-- >>Gordon > >Wow. Talk about a "marriage penalty"! Jesus or Dubya's gonna git y'all for >that, you heathen Brits... Marian LOL! May the Lord have merrrrcy on our souls... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031014110515.13877.00000336@mb-m29.aol.com> <1iyuicvmcr7pe$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:44:12 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c7a57$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066170967 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 960 Lines: 40 > >>>>Dear Gordon > >>>> > >>>>That's cause you got no hair! I am off to Oz tomorrow. Lady wife to see her > >>>>family and I guess I just poke around Sydney, maybe go to the Opera, down > >>>>the rocks or something. > >>>> > >>>>Sinclair > >>>> > >>>>PS Any one got extra tickets to the Rugby? Hell with the opera > >>>> > >>>>Sinclair > >> > >>> Have a good time, Sinclair! Bon Voyage! > >>> I leave for France Thursday. > >> > >>Whereabouts in France Marion? > >>-- > >>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 08:40:01 > >>http://copelands.co.uk/val > > > Suburbs of Paris, Val. Daughter, SIL and their almost 4 year-old have lived > > there almost 3 years, but are coming home to Nashville soon. This will be my > > last visit with them there. > > > Marian > > Paris is OK I suppose, but I prefer the Dordogne or Provence. I had enough > of cities when I lived and worked in London. > -- > val =========== Yes, but Paris does have a special charm. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8b4664$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be853$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: What does QC mean? Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:45:06 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c7a8e$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066171022 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 902 Lines: 40 > >> >> [Sea wrote] > >> >> > >Have you made up your mind yet? LOL > >> >> > >---Sea > >> >> > >> >> > Yes. > >> >> > If you are still breathing and have a pulse, > >> >> > I'm ready, how about you? > >> >> > Gordon > >> >> > >> >> LOL! > >> >> Gordon, I'm always ready. > >> >> But are you able? LOL > >> >> ---Sea > >> >========= > >> >Brewer's droop, you reckon? > >> >Bobbie > >> > > >> I'm nearly tea-total! > >> > >> Naaah, the lack of mental stimulation, the right woman, (preferably > >> wealthy - that's stimulating). I'm ok when I'm on my own. ;-) > >> -- > >> Gordon > >======== > >Got yourself well in hand, do you? > >Bobbie > > > Only if I can't get someone else . . . > > 'Tis said that men are either walkers or liars. > > Women open the Yellow Page and let their fingers do the walking... > -- > Gordon ======== And, which are you.....a walker or a liar? Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:06:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:46:31 GMT References: <3f8c753b$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power Message-ID: <20031014184631.06857.00000672@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 828 Lines: 55 >> > I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans >> >> are stretch jeans. >> >> >> >> Bobbie >> > >> >I don't know Tar-jay.... >> >-- >> >Jean B. >> >> Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? That's how a daughter >> refers to it here. Dint know it was in Oz though... Marian >======== >You're spot on, Marian. Target here is owned by Myers now, a big Aussie >department store, etc. Target has many of the same items as Myers but >they're less expensive. >Bobbie I owe so much to my children. Without them I would know nothing cool; be never cool... Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:47:53 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <9989-3F8C7D19-673@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRQcOqoS8NlKFXRpli2MdATYTVVYAIUOXM6ahhejr9Zkax5F9jKsM7aU7w= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 507 Lines: 9 Gordon wrote re towels: Even the best conditions - a lively breeze and dry cloudy day, doesn't get them as soft as the dryer. ******************************* You got that right, Gordon. I cquired my first clothes dryer shortly before my second child was born. That was 46 years ago and I haven't been without one since. Te only things I like dried on the line are sheets, but usually didn't have the time to hang them out, what with working full time and taking care of the house and babies. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:48:34 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: References: <9jhfkus5wng9.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014183210.06857.00000668@mb-m20.aol.com> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066171714 24235048 217.137.94.19 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (993e7071.55.467) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 468 Lines: 21 On 14 Oct 2003 22:32:10 GMT, Marian scrawled: >>> I keep up with Eastenders here. We're in 1999... Anyone else watch this? >>Brits? >>> What's going on there currently? >> >>> Marian >> >>Dirty Den is back! >>-- >>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 17:58:59 >>http://copelands.co.uk/val > Didn't he die? > a puzzled Marian That's what we were led to believe at the time - but ........ -- val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 23:48:08 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8a442a$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031013140651.29144.00000335@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8be912$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: What does QC mean? Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:49:10 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c7b81$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066171265 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1121 Lines: 33 "> >> >And dogs bark. > >> > > >> That's what they are for. > >> > >> The stupid ones bark at nothing, and they should be shot. > >> -- > >I agree with that. Sasha doesn't bark unless someone she knows > >is on her property. Then all hell breaks loose. Aside from that > >she talks to me with these funny noises, sort of like Mmmmm > >up and down the scale. I trained her to only bark as a warning. > >Bobbie > > > Sasha? Somehow that sounds like a dog I wouldn't get past. :-( > > I'd soon kick Sea's pooch through the window, but Sasha? > > Sounds like a German Shep, somehow.... > -- > Gordon > (Preparing to fend off Sea) ============== Sasha is a German Shepherd.....my beautiful, intelligent and loyal dog. For sure, you wouldn't get past her unless I let her know it was OK. Needless to say, the people who come to the door to try to sell me something don't stay long. Sasha can sense my feelings, then gives that low German Shepherd growl with teeth bared and ruff up. They decide they might prefer to go to another house. Of course, as soon as they leave, she's back to being my sweet Sasha. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:31 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1rqbnnmb2ge79$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> <1hi7pa4dls80l.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8c73f4$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066171771 24661793 217.137.94.19 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (e70cb459.102.394) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 214 Lines: 9 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:16:57 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: > You are very fortunate, Val. > Bobbie In more ways than one Bobbie :) -- val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 23:49:20 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:50:35 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: The California Recall and how I would vote Message-ID: <20031014185035.06857.00000673@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 1245 Lines: 60 I don't envy *any* Governor her job in these times. Every other Executive sent money back to the states when times were bad, but not this one. I don't know what will happen. Hope Granholm survives it. Marian >From: "Joan F \(MI\)" >Yes, people either love Hillary or hate her, seems no middle ground. She >really is very popular with a lot of people, her book sold very well and >when you match her up against Bush in the polls she comes out ahead. > >Jennifer Granholm was just elected last November, she was Attorney General >before that. Replaced a Republican who decimated state services such as >mental health care. Pretty hard to rebuild those things now with the revenue >picture so bad. >Granholm sounds excellent. First term? Would make an excellent veep choice >in >'08, for sure~if she can get re-elected for a second... There is SO much >hostility about in the land toward Hillary that I just wish she'd be happy >with >a Senate career into her dotage. Hate the thought of how ugly it could >get... > Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:51:30 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1iehx9lfeenhu.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8c746c$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066171890 23708461 217.137.94.19 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (2c283bef.172.320) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 1385 Lines: 33 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:18:57 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: > "Joy (I think) wrote: "I wear lipstick all the time, but I don't own >> any >>> other makeup." >>> *************************************** >>> I have other makeup but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had >>> extremely dry skin, but the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup >> looks >>> splotchy after it's been on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the >>> mood strikes me! I do use moisturizers religiously. Jeanette >> >> I did try wearing foundation for a while, but I found that the area over >> my upper lip always looked as though I hadn't put any makeup on that >> spot. It looked weird, so I decided to save the cost and trouble of >> using the foundation. >> >> Joy > ========= > I must check that out next time I put some foundation on. I use such > a teeny amount when I do use it that I'm not even sure it shows. I've > had the same small jar of foundation for 4 years so I obviously > don't wear much...or very often. > Bobbie Using foundation should help protect your skin from the elements. We live by the sea and it can get rather windy at times so I wear foundation which helps to prevent little thread veins which can appear on fine skin like mine. I also stay outt of the fierce sun as much as possible -- val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 23:49:51 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:54:00 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066172040 23028811 217.137.94.19 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (76929caf.227.300) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 1532 Lines: 43 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:27:28 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: >>>> > When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often > and >>>> great >>>>> favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious > I >>>>> hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( >>>>> Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! >>>>> -- >>>>> val >>>> ========== >>>> I lashed out today and had a proper Cornish pastie. I'll be good for > the >>>> next month and then will lash out again. >>> >>>> Bobbie >>> >>>My fave lash out is fish and chips - mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! >> >> >> Val, >> On my infrequent trips to the UK there are a few things I always >> attempt to sample once again. Clotted cream, Oggies, Scrumpy, draft >> bitter and fish and chips. Other than the oggies which I make myself, >> the others are not quite the same in Canada, although I can get most >> of them. The best fish and chips I've had here were from a store run >> by a man from Afghanistan who told me he had worked in a fish and chip >> shop in England before leaving for Canada. >> I've just discovered a source here for Mamade, wow, does that ever >> make good marmalade. >> >> Jan > ========== > I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the > real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. > Bobbie Fish and chips is never served in newspaper these days Bobbie - white paper the same as your :) -- val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 23:53:22 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 22:54:29 GMT References: <3f8c7a57$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power Message-ID: <20031014185429.06857.00000674@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 972 Lines: 62 >> >>> Have a good time, Sinclair! Bon Voyage! >> >>> I leave for France Thursday. >> >> >> >>Whereabouts in France Marion? >> >>-- >> >>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 08:40:01 >> >>http://copelands.co.uk/val >> >> > Suburbs of Paris, Val. Daughter, SIL and their almost 4 year-old have >lived >> > there almost 3 years, but are coming home to Nashville soon. This will >be my >> > last visit with them there. >> >> > Marian >> >> Paris is OK I suppose, but I prefer the Dordogne or Provence. I had >enough >> of cities when I lived and worked in London. >> -- >> val >=========== >Yes, but Paris does have a special charm. >Bobbie That it does, and great public transportation to get into the city and wonderfully walkable once there... Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:57:30 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <20031014110515.13877.00000336@mb-m29.aol.com> <1iyuicvmcr7pe$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8c7a57$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066172250 24729385 217.137.94.19 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (880b229b.217.309) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 1147 Lines: 45 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:44:12 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: >>>>>>Dear Gordon >>>>>> >>>>>>That's cause you got no hair! I am off to Oz tomorrow. Lady wife to > see her >>>>>>family and I guess I just poke around Sydney, maybe go to the Opera, > down >>>>>>the rocks or something. >>>>>> >>>>>>Sinclair >>>>>> >>>>>>PS Any one got extra tickets to the Rugby? Hell with the opera >>>>>> >>>>>>Sinclair >>>> >>>>> Have a good time, Sinclair! Bon Voyage! >>>>> I leave for France Thursday. >>>> >>>>Whereabouts in France Marion? >>>>-- >>>>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 08:40:01 >>>>http://copelands.co.uk/val >> >>> Suburbs of Paris, Val. Daughter, SIL and their almost 4 year-old have > lived >>> there almost 3 years, but are coming home to Nashville soon. This will > be my >>> last visit with them there. >> >>> Marian >> >> Paris is OK I suppose, but I prefer the Dordogne or Provence. I had > enough >> of cities when I lived and worked in London. >> -- >> val > =========== > Yes, but Paris does have a special charm. > Bobbie Yep - expensive charm ! -- val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 23:57:10 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 23:00:06 GMT References: <3f8c6f40$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Message-ID: <20031014190006.06857.00000675@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 1161 Lines: 60 >> >> You iron? Okay, there's one thing we don't have in common. I don't >> >> even own an iron. >> >> >> >You have heard me say this before, but when my daughter was in >> >kindergarten, she asked the teacher what an iron was.... >> > >> >-- >> >Jean B. >> >> LOL! I hadn't heard you say this before, Jean.I haven't touched an iron in >> decades. Marian >=============== >Doesn't it get humid where you live? If you don't iron, you must wear >synthetics, like I do in winter. I don't like ironing which is why I have >this special system of hanging clothes on the hoist, so they come out >looking almost ironed and only need a minor touch up before I put >them on. As I said, I get a heat rash if I wear a synthetic when it's >hot and humid. >Bobbie Yes, it's very humid here in the summer [6 months at least], and no, I don't wear synthetics. Ever. If the wrinkles don't fall out, I wear them innaway. mussed Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:00:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b58f0$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be6bf$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c7312$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066175382 17236 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 23:49:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1483 Lines: 40 Barbara Christian wrote > >=========== >Aside from winter, the towels become soft anyway, due to the >humidity. Maybe you just have better quality towels. :-) > Dryers really use electricity. All our appliances here >have an energy rating, stars from one to 6. Most of my appliances >have 5-6. Even my air con has 4œ. I have a dryer which is almost >an antique so it doesn't have an energy rating, but my neighbour >just bought a new one and the energy rating is 1œ. In other words, >it uses a lot of electricity. > Ours are energy rated, but I can't remember what the dryer is. It is only a small one, and the rating is reasonable, I think. >I have $70/month automatically debited to Energex. I'm $147 in >the black at present. It is usually used up in summer with the air >con. However, if I don't use it all by next March, I may cut the >monthly debit down to $60-65/month, since I now have solar >Hart so don't pay anything for my hot water anymore. > >Bobbie > Last year, Electricity cost me £236, and gas cost £226. Monthly equivs are £19.66 and £18.83 respectively. I pay bills at the end of the quarter. I don't believe in leaving money in the Utilities bank account instead of mine in summer..... I could reduce the charges by going monthly DD, but it just about offsets the advantage of the quarterly credit. Gas fired central heating and hot water via Combi boiler. Electric cooker and electric shower. Clockwork computer. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 23:07:08 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Syria Message-ID: <20031014190708.06857.00000676@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 581 Lines: 52 Sinclair writes: >> Dear Bob >> >> One thing for sure you did not study economics.[...] >That is both inaccurate and an Ad Hominim argument. You are becoming >personal. Is that necessary? [...] > snort > >bob I think it is, and I agree with him. I haven't studied economics, and I'm aware of how little I know. That's the difference between us, Bob. Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 14 Oct 2003 23:10:18 GMT References: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power Message-ID: <20031014191018.06857.00000677@mb-m20.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 749 Lines: 54 >>> Paris is OK I suppose, but I prefer the Dordogne or Provence. I had >> enough >>> of cities when I lived and worked in London. >>> -- >>> val >> =========== >> Yes, but Paris does have a special charm. >> Bobbie > >Yep - expensive charm ! >-- >val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 23:57:10 >http://copelands.co.uk/val Since I stay at my daughter's and take most meals at her house, I don't know this from personal experience but I've read, heard from several quarters that Paris is a *lot* cheaper than London. Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:22:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066175384 17236 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 23:49:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1868 Lines: 41 Yoj wrote >"Gordon" wrote> > >> > >> One of my buddies said to me "You think ALL women are attractive". >> Just because I find mature, 'less than perfect' women have a certain >> appeal.... >> >> They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I >> flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see >> themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. ;-) >> -- >> Gordon > >Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much >more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) >than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a >perfect "10". > In her early life, throughout it really, M****, because of her looks, attracted the kind of fools who rush in when the nice guys hesitate, and made some bad mistakes. I know I don't really do myself any favours on usenet with some of my postings, but I can't resist the chance to try to make someone smile. I am very nervous about making first moves, the exceptions being with my wife and with M****. A kiss isn't a heavy first move, is it? ;-) I don't touch, except the woman I'm with. There are three women at the dancing who have touched me, two only my hand or arm, more a habit of theirs than anything else. One was so persistent that I told her gently that M**** might take a dim view if she noticed..... There's another old dear who always rubs my back when I dance with her, but she does it with quite a few men. I think she is a widow who enjoys the warmth of a man's arms and returns the warmth. Good job she doesn't know the effect it has on me! What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm virtually every time she speaks to him. Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:24:47 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20031014181609.06857.00000664@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066175388 17236 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 23:49:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 620 Lines: 28 Marian wrote >>Marian wrote >>>> I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans >>>>> are stretch jeans. >>>>> >>>>> Bobbie >>>> >>>>I don't know Tar-jay.... >>>>-- >>>>Jean B. >>> >>>Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? >> >>Have a silver star in your exercise book, go top of the class, and stay >>behind and see me after lessons. There could be a gold star in it for >>you............ >>-- >>Gordon > >Cool. Er...what did you have in mind? > >Marian Your expecting? That was quick! How about French lessons? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:31:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20031014181042.06857.00000662@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066175390 17236 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 23:49:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1078 Lines: 34 Marian wrote >>>> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. >>>> > > >>>> > > Bobbie >>>> > >>>> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they >>>> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. >>>> > -- >>>> > Jean B. >>>> ====== >>>> So do I. >>>> Bobbie >>> >>>Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out >>>looking at shirts. Ugh. >>> >>I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... >>I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. >>-- >>Gordon > >More men should do this. You're impossible to shop for otherwise. > >Marian I'm worse than most! Actually, it was after I had trailed round the shops with M****, waiting while she tried 3 bras on, and examined the stitching on every garment in Debenhams, that we were walking past the Urban Man's Shop. She spotted a shirt in the window and said "find out how much it is", but when I went inside there were so many I liked that I decided I'd go back again when we had more time for a proper look. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:31:49 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <20031014183723.06857.00000670@mb-m20.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1402 Lines: 49 On 14 Oct 2003 22:37:23 GMT, lustron1@aol.com (Marian) wrote: >>>>You are right Eugene, there is no shortage of URL's >>> >>>Following up on myself >>> >>>This one is interesting because it shows that not all detainees were >>>captured in combat situations: >>> >>>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/sep2003/guan-s19.shtml >>> >>>Another: >>> >>>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96270,00.html >>> >>>This is one were a group of former U.S. federal judges, diplomats, >>>military officials and human rights advocates urged the Supreme Court on >>>Thursday to review the case of detainees held without being charged at >>>Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere in the name of terrorism. >>> >> >>>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=1896&e=5&u=/nm >/20031009/us_nm/rights_guantanamo_dc_3 >> >> >>No doubt there is a lot of tugging back and forth. >> >>However I think the URL's I provided, from official gov. sources, >>http://usinfo.state.gov , covers most to the questions. >> >>You will have to decide for yourself which is accurate. >> >> >>-- >>Eugene A. Calame > >Oh sure, we should certainly look to *government* websites for the real skinny >on illegally imprisonment. Are you nuts? Marian You want both sides don't you.? -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:41:56 +0100 Message-ID: <5I4WJWBEnIj$Ew6g@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <$rfnxnBftbi$EwBO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066175391 17236 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 23:49:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1892 Lines: 45 Jan wrote >Yes, I know the area well. I've sailed across the Sound on many >occasions. I hope you didn't wave at the sailors. The reason I >mention this is that in my politically incorrect day someone would >have called out, (knowing they wouldn't be heard), "All the women not >wearing knickers wave". Then of course we would wave and see the >response. Of course there was no TV on the ships so we made our >own entertainment, even if juvenile. I don't think I should mention >how the sea-gulls came into the entertainment, suffice to say we hated >them with a vengeance. >Did you get up to the Hoe to see where Drake farted around when the >Spanish were running their first tourist cruise to England? Yes, we walked across the Hoe, it's quite a chunk of land, isn't it? > Is the >Barbican still there? Yes indeed, and there's a street where there are coins embedded firmly in the pavement - that may be the Barbicon. > Cross over to Cornwall on the Torpoint ferry, >or is that all history now? There is a new bridge now, or was going to be one built, I can't remember now. We went to Dartmouth where we met a guy I used to work with and his wife for lunch, and we had coach trips to Looe, Totnes, and Whatsthenameofthat Abbey. > One watering hole was what we called the >'Long Bar', I can't remember the street name now as it was so many >years ago, but I still have photos of a drunken night there with some >of my oppos >I think I may have seen some paintings of the old dock-yard. Those >were the days, as an old Chief Petty Officer used to remark, "When the >ships were wood and the men were steel. To-day we seem to have >reversed the process." > >Jan (In reminiscing mode) > I don't remember doing much drinking, it was a naughty holiday, before she got her divorce, so there were other pursuits.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: For the women Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:43:45 +0100 Message-ID: <7YVWdhBxoIj$EwaO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f8ab9b5$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b597a$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be5ff$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066175393 17236 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 23:49:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 2345 Lines: 64 Barbara Christian wrote > >> >> >> "IT IS GOOD TO BE A WOMAN" >> >> >> 1.We got off the Titanic first. >> >> >> 2.We can scare male bosses with the mysterious >> >> >> gynecological disorder excuses. >> >> >> 3.Taxis stop for us. >> >> >> 4.We don't look like a frog in a blender when dancing. >> >> >> 5.No fashion faux pas we make, could ever rival the >> >> >> Speedo. >> >> >> 6.We don't have to pass gas to amuse ourselves. >> >> >> 7.If we forget to shave, no one has to know. >> >> >> 8.We can congratulate our teammate without ever >> >> >> touching her rear end. >> >> >> 9.We never have to reach down every so often to >> >> >> make sure our privates are still there. >> >> >> 10.We have the ability to dress ourselves. >> >> >> 11.We can talk to the opposite sex without having >> >> >> to picture them naked. >> >> >> 12.If we marry someone 20 years younger, we are >> >> >> aware that we will look like an idiot. >> >> >> 13.We will never regret piercing our ears. >> >> >> 14.There are times when chocolate really can solve >> >> >> all your problems. >> >> >> 15.We can make comments about how silly men are in >> >> >> their presence because they aren't listening anyway. >> >> >> ---Not Sea, whose favorites are # 5 and # 9. >> >> >======= >> >> >My favourites are 6 and 9. Boys start doing that around >> >> >age 4.....Guess they never outgrow it, eh? >> >> > >> >> >Bobbie >> >> > >> >> You'd be no fun to share a lift with. (Elevator for the furriners). >> >> >> >> We were watching a medical program once when the doctor said that men >> >> should examine their testicles regularly by touch to detect any lumps >or >> >> swellings. >> >> >> >> My wife started chuckling helplessly........ >> >> When she recovered she said "As if they needed telling - they do it all >> >> the time, from what I've seen". >> >> (And she wasn't just talking about me). :-) >> >> -- >> >> Gordon >> >=========== >> >Every hour of every day, and even in your sleep? >> >At age 4, my son used to 'twiddle his willy' when he felt >> >uncomfortable and insecure. >> > >> >Bobbie >> > >> Funny that - I only do it when I feel comfortable and secure. :-) >> -- >> Gordon >=========== >And, how often is that? LOL > >Bobbie > Quality, not quantity m'dear..... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:45:26 +0100 Message-ID: <6oMWBvBWqIj$EwZQ@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <20031014180435.06857.00000660@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066175396 17236 194.222.103.116 (14 Oct 2003 23:49:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:49:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 158 Lines: 8 Marian wrote >>> >Sinclair has left for Oz. I've not read anything from Sea today, has she gone with him? He's a sly dog...... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:52:28 GMT Message-ID: <3f8c8c1d.3585255@news.individual.net> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b36d7.2236122@news.individual.net> <3f8b6502.14057554@news.individual.net> <3MTV44Bvi8i$EwSk@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-208.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.208) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066175550 24047197 203.87.45.208 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 400 Lines: 18 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:58:07 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >> >>Eee! and they reckon they 'ad it tough in Yorkshire..... >> >>jingles (that should draw somebody out) >>> >Oh no! Not the dreaded Monty Python "We lived in a shoe-box" thread. >8-) >-- >Gordon Certainly not....we wore that out with Lanky, and Lyndon.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:06:55 +0100 Message-ID: <24OVlPAf+Ij$EwZB@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <9jhfkus5wng9.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014183210.06857.00000668@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066176582 27330 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 00:09:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:09:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 347 Lines: 19 Marian wrote >>> I keep up with Eastenders here. We're in 1999... Anyone else watch this? >>Brits? >>> What's going on there currently? >> >>> Marian >> >>Dirty Den is back! >>-- >>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 17:58:59 >>http://copelands.co.uk/val > >Didn't he die? > >a puzzled Marian > Didn't JR get shot? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:07:40 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20031014182622.06857.00000666@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066176584 27330 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 00:09:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:09:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 586 Lines: 18 Marian wrote >>>I keep up with Eastenders here. We're in 1999... Anyone else watch this? >>Brits? >>>What's going on there currently? >>> >>Dirty Den is back. That's all I know, never watched it. >>The bad news is - you are going to lose Eastenders. Didn't you know? >>My daughter is furious....... >>-- >>Gordon > >Back from the dead? I loved Den. Grieved when he died. Lose it? Why? We're >seeing it [2 episodes] at 11:00 pm on Sunday nights, and 4 years behind...How >could PBS get away with that? Marian I think she watches it on BBC America? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:10:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20031014181923.06857.00000665@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066177187 8356 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 00:19:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:19:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 599 Lines: 22 Marian wrote >>>[Great page, Sea!] Reminds me to wonder where did the phrase, "Creature with >>>two backs" come from? >>> >>"Beast with two backs" is more alliterative. :-) >>-- >>Gordon > >Yes, of course it is. Stupid of me. So, where did it come from? Marian I Googled....... Meaning Partners engaged in sexual intercourse. Origin This modern sounding phrase is in fact at least as early as Shakespeare. From Othello. Iago: 'I am one, sir, that comes to tell you your daughter and the Moor are now making the beast with two backs'. HTH -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What does QC mean? Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:12:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8b4664$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be853$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c7a8e$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066177188 8356 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 00:19:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:19:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1071 Lines: 43 Barbara Christian wrote > >> >> >> [Sea wrote] >> >> >> > >Have you made up your mind yet? LOL >> >> >> > >---Sea >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes. >> >> >> > If you are still breathing and have a pulse, >> >> >> > I'm ready, how about you? >> >> >> > Gordon >> >> >> >> >> >> LOL! >> >> >> Gordon, I'm always ready. >> >> >> But are you able? LOL >> >> >> ---Sea >> >> >========= >> >> >Brewer's droop, you reckon? >> >> >Bobbie >> >> > >> >> I'm nearly tea-total! >> >> >> >> Naaah, the lack of mental stimulation, the right woman, (preferably >> >> wealthy - that's stimulating). I'm ok when I'm on my own. ;-) >> >> -- >> >> Gordon >> >======== >> >Got yourself well in hand, do you? >> >Bobbie >> > >> Only if I can't get someone else . . . >> >> 'Tis said that men are either walkers or liars. >> >> Women open the Yellow Page and let their fingers do the walking... >> -- >> Gordon >======== >And, which are you.....a walker or a liar? >Bobbie > If I say "both" you will be none the wiser, because I will have lied. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What does QC mean? Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:17:13 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8a442a$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031013140651.29144.00000335@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8be912$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c7b81$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066177190 8356 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 00:19:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:19:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 945 Lines: 22 Barbara Christian wrote > >Sasha is a German Shepherd.....my beautiful, intelligent and loyal >dog. For sure, you wouldn't get past her unless I let her know >it was OK. Needless to say, the people who come to the door >to try to sell me something don't stay long. Sasha can sense my >feelings, then gives that low German Shepherd growl with teeth >bared and ruff up. They decide they might prefer to go to >another house. Of course, as soon as they leave, she's back >to being my sweet Sasha. >Bobbie > I have noticed that dogs which are owned by women are very ready to protect their mistress at the least imagined sign of threat, much more so than with a male owner. Jean and I were walking one day in a remote place when we met a girl with a medium sized dog. It was quite happy with Jean talking to her, but I could see that it was becoming very 'interested' in me, and she had to restrain it. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:24:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3f8c75e4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066177883 28078 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 00:31:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:31:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 989 Lines: 33 Barbara Christian wrote >> >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. >> >> > > >> >> > > Bobbie >> >> > >> >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they >> >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. >> >> > -- >> >> > Jean B. >> >> ====== >> >> So do I. >> >> Bobbie >> > >> >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out >> >looking at shirts. Ugh. >> > >> I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... >> I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. >> -- >> Gordon >========== >That's pretty dear, isn't it? >Bobbie > Yes dear, it had pretty stripes. (reading the sentence sideways). It is expensive by my standards, yes. The last shirt I bought cost me a fiver. This would be for dancing. There were some inside which were £40, which I'd like M****'s opinion on, but she waited outside the shop. (The time was up on her car park ticket). -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c737a$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:58:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.39 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066179507 32.103.153.39 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:58:27 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:58:27 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1935 Lines: 63 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8c737a$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > > > >> [sea wrote] [...] > > > >> > > Joy - It's true that we women are not forced to dress up. > > > >> > > However, if I hadn't dressed a certain way when I was > > > >> > > younger, my husband wouldn't have given me a tumble. > > > >> > > And I like to tumble. LOL [...] > > > >> > > > >> > I met my husband on a church retreat, where we all slept in > > bunks, had > > > >> > breakfast together, and spent most of the day outdoors. He > > didn't have > > > >> > any unpleasant surprises when we got married, because he already > > knew > > > >> > the worst. Nowadays, I take my motto from Flip Wilson's > > Geraldine - > > > >> > What you see is what you get! > > > >> > Joy > > > >> > > > >> At least that's honest. > > > >> But some people (like myself) need all the help we can get > > > >> in the appearance department. > > > >> ---Sea > > > >============= > > > > > > >To me you're beautiful.....it's the inner beauty which counts. > > > > > > > >Bobbie > > > > > > > She's OK. I wouldn't kick her out of bed. > > > (That b***** dog is a different story) ;-) > > > > > > One of my buddies said to me "You think ALL women are attractive". > > > Just because I find mature, 'less than perfect' women have a certain > > > appeal.... > > > > > > They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I > > > flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see > > > themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. ;-) > > > -- > > > Gordon > > > > Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much > > more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) > > than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > > perfect "10". > > > > Joy > ======== > They're the shallow ones. > Bobbie Exactly. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3f8c75e4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <601jb.178827$0v4.13741379@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:01:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.39 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066179714 32.103.153.39 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:01:54 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:01:54 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 830 Lines: 31 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8c75e4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. > > >> > > > > >> > > Bobbie > > >> > > > >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they > > >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. > > >> > -- > > >> > Jean B. > > >> ====== > > >> So do I. > > >> Bobbie > > > > > >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out > > >looking at shirts. Ugh. > > > > > I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... > > I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. > > -- > > Gordon > ========== > That's pretty dear, isn't it? > Bobbie It sounds so to me. I didn't even know men's shirts ever brought that high a price. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:09:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.39 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066180180 32.103.153.39 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:09:40 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:09:40 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2745 Lines: 70 "Gordon" wrote in message news:T4fc1zAbUIj$EwdQ@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > >"Gordon" wrote> > > >> > > >> One of my buddies said to me "You think ALL women are attractive". > >> Just because I find mature, 'less than perfect' women have a certain > >> appeal.... > >> > >> They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I > >> flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see > >> themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. ;-) > >> -- > >> Gordon > > > >Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much > >more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) > >than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > >perfect "10". > > > In her early life, throughout it really, M****, because of her looks, > attracted the kind of fools who rush in when the nice guys hesitate, and > made some bad mistakes. > > I know I don't really do myself any favours on usenet with some of my > postings, but I can't resist the chance to try to make someone smile. > I am very nervous about making first moves, the exceptions being with my > wife and with M****. A kiss isn't a heavy first move, is it? ;-) > I don't touch, except the woman I'm with. There are three women at the > dancing who have touched me, two only my hand or arm, more a habit of > theirs than anything else. One was so persistent that I told her gently > that M**** might take a dim view if she noticed..... There's another > old dear who always rubs my back when I dance with her, but she does it > with quite a few men. > I think she is a widow who enjoys the warmth of a man's arms and returns > the warmth. Good job she doesn't know the effect it has on me! > > What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm > virtually every time she speaks to him. > Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > -- > Gordon I think there are - some people do a lot of touching, some do none at all. People can change in that regard, to a certain extent at least. I used to be pretty touch-me-not, and then I got in with a couple of groups who do a lot of strictly friendly hugging. I found I really liked that. I still seldom initiate a hug, except with family and close friends, but I do enjoy being hugged. OTOH, it bothers me when people (men or women) stand too close when they're talking to me. I feel as though my personal space is being invaded. Some people seem to feel a need to stand very close to, and/or touch the person they are speaking to. In most cases, I think it's just an innate personality trait. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <88Gib.176660$0v4.13610391@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f8b5533$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C01D7.79672AB@rcn.com> <3f8c6fed$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:09:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.39 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066180181 32.103.153.39 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:09:41 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:09:41 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1392 Lines: 39 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8c6fed$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > "> > I have no choice in summer. The only sensible things to wear in the > > > tropical heat are cotton items. They breathe whereas the synthetics > > > don't. Synthetics cause heat rashes, which is why my bras and > > > knickers are also cotton. > > > > > > However, that's why I only iron what I'm planning to wear. > > > Don't want to make a chore of it. I heat the iron while in the shower, > > > walk out in the nutty and iron or at least take the worse wrinkles out > > > of the cotton items. I don't do any ironing in winter. Thus my > > > ironing board becomes a depository for other items in winter. > > > > > That's whay I wear cotton t-shirts. No ironing--plus they are > > comfortable. > > > > -- > > Jean B. > =========== > I find they look a bit better when they've had an iron to touch them > up. However, that's only for the ones I wear when I'm going out. > I do NOT iron the ones I wear around the house. Suti, Sasha and > my friends don't mind a wrinkle or two. You should see the > procedure I have when I hang up clothes so that they dry and > look mostly ironed. My next door neighbour laughs when she > sees my 'ironing on the line' methods...but they work. > > Bobbie If you get the results you want, that's all that counts. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be93e$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:10:22 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c9c99$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066179737 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 882 Lines: 33 "Aries" wrote in message news:jmyfzahp1y0u.dlg@copelands.co.uk... > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:24:37 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: > > > "> >> Do you think it was their slightly British accents? > >>>> Somehow, some British accents sound so posh. > >>>> T'isn't fair, is it. > >>>> After all, it's only an accent like any other accent. > >>>> Why should we prefer it? > >>>> ---Sea, who thinks about things like this... > >>>================ > >>>Depends on the English accent. There's a huge difference > >>>in them. Cockney doesn't sound so posh, for example. > >>> > >>>Bobbie > >>> > >> I could never stand to watch Eastenders. The accents are absolutely > >> ghaaaaastly my dear! :-) > >> -- > >> Gordon > > ======== > > A bit plum in the mouth... > > Bobbie > > Doncha mean daarn in the maaff? > -- > val ========= That too. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8a442a$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031013140651.29144.00000335@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8be912$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c7b81$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: What does QC mean? Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:21:59 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c9f53$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066180436 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1280 Lines: 31 "> >Sasha is a German Shepherd.....my beautiful, intelligent and loyal > >dog. For sure, you wouldn't get past her unless I let her know > >it was OK. Needless to say, the people who come to the door > >to try to sell me something don't stay long. Sasha can sense my > >feelings, then gives that low German Shepherd growl with teeth > >bared and ruff up. They decide they might prefer to go to > >another house. Of course, as soon as they leave, she's back > >to being my sweet Sasha. > >Bobbie > > > I have noticed that dogs which are owned by women are very ready to > protect their mistress at the least imagined sign of threat, much more > so than with a male owner. > > Jean and I were walking one day in a remote place when we met a girl > with a medium sized dog. It was quite happy with Jean talking to her, > but I could see that it was becoming very 'interested' in me, and she > had to restrain it. > -- > Gordon =========== You are right about dogs owned by women being very protective. A dog squad mate actually chose Sasha for me. He said I should have a female dog, he checked out both parents, etc. Sasha is very cluey as to people.....she growls at con artists and angry people, be they men or women. I reckon she's a good judge of character. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8b4664$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be853$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c7a8e$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: What does QC mean? Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:22:38 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8c9f7a$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066180474 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1134 Lines: 46 > >> >> >> [Sea wrote] > >> >> >> > >Have you made up your mind yet? LOL > >> >> >> > >---Sea > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Yes. > >> >> >> > If you are still breathing and have a pulse, > >> >> >> > I'm ready, how about you? > >> >> >> > Gordon > >> >> >> > >> >> >> LOL! > >> >> >> Gordon, I'm always ready. > >> >> >> But are you able? LOL > >> >> >> ---Sea > >> >> >========= > >> >> >Brewer's droop, you reckon? > >> >> >Bobbie > >> >> > > >> >> I'm nearly tea-total! > >> >> > >> >> Naaah, the lack of mental stimulation, the right woman, (preferably > >> >> wealthy - that's stimulating). I'm ok when I'm on my own. ;-) > >> >> -- > >> >> Gordon > >> >======== > >> >Got yourself well in hand, do you? > >> >Bobbie > >> > > >> Only if I can't get someone else . . . > >> > >> 'Tis said that men are either walkers or liars. > >> > >> Women open the Yellow Page and let their fingers do the walking... > >> -- > >> Gordon > >======== > >And, which are you.....a walker or a liar? > >Bobbie > > > If I say "both" you will be none the wiser, because I will have lied. > -- > Gordon ====== Thought so. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8b4328$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <9990-3F8C7AAA-259@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:25:22 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca01e$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066180638 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1503 Lines: 30 Bobbie responded to my comment about the little slogan about women: "I have a saying I found once, back in the 70/80's I think: "Whatever women do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult." I stuck this to my bulletin board over my desk and memorized it. I guess that is why women are expected to do twice as much work as men and why the "glass ceiling" still exists! - Salary cap. Women usually do a better job than men in some professions, or at least as well as, but the "glass ceiling" hits them in the head as far as salary and/or promotion. Jeanette ============== Good assessment.....We have a problem with the glass ceiling here as well. Bobbie" **************************************** Whenever my boss came into my office, he scowled at the saying. I asked him if he was going to make me take it down but he said no, but that is was sexist. He continued scowling every time he came in my office. After about a year, I got a different desk with different overhead cabinets, so I stuck it to the inside of one of the cabinet doors. I don't think he even realized it was gone! Today I have a secretary style desk with a drop-down leaf and I keep it stuck in there. Jeanette ======= I had that saying stuck on to my filing cabinet as well. I only got comments and scowls from one man, and he had power and control issues,.....and continual female problems...couldn't keep a relationship for more than 6 months. Very telling, eh? Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8c7a57$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031014185429.06857.00000674@mb-m20.aol.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:26:10 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca04e$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066180686 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 884 Lines: 34 "> >> >>> Have a good time, Sinclair! Bon Voyage! > >> >>> I leave for France Thursday. > >> >> > >> >>Whereabouts in France Marion? > >> >>-- > >> >>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 08:40:01 > >> >>http://copelands.co.uk/val > >> > >> > Suburbs of Paris, Val. Daughter, SIL and their almost 4 year-old have > >lived > >> > there almost 3 years, but are coming home to Nashville soon. This will > >be my > >> > last visit with them there. > >> > >> > Marian > >> > >> Paris is OK I suppose, but I prefer the Dordogne or Provence. I had > >enough > >> of cities when I lived and worked in London. > >> -- > >> val > >=========== > >Yes, but Paris does have a special charm. > >Bobbie > > That it does, and great public transportation to get into the city and > wonderfully walkable once there... Marian ======== Yes, very walkable....and those wonderful outdoor cafes. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:28:29 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca0d8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066180824 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1755 Lines: 53 "Aries" wrote in message news:mwwhfnzie7q0.dlg@copelands.co.uk... > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:27:28 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: > > >>>> > When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often > > and > >>>> great > >>>>> favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious > > I > >>>>> hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( > >>>>> Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! > >>>>> -- > >>>>> val > >>>> ========== > >>>> I lashed out today and had a proper Cornish pastie. I'll be good for > > the > >>>> next month and then will lash out again. > >>> > >>>> Bobbie > >>> > >>>My fave lash out is fish and chips - mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! > >> > >> > >> Val, > >> On my infrequent trips to the UK there are a few things I always > >> attempt to sample once again. Clotted cream, Oggies, Scrumpy, draft > >> bitter and fish and chips. Other than the oggies which I make myself, > >> the others are not quite the same in Canada, although I can get most > >> of them. The best fish and chips I've had here were from a store run > >> by a man from Afghanistan who told me he had worked in a fish and chip > >> shop in England before leaving for Canada. > >> I've just discovered a source here for Mamade, wow, does that ever > >> make good marmalade. > >> > >> Jan > > ========== > > I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the > > real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. > > Bobbie > > Fish and chips is never served in newspaper these days Bobbie - white paper > the same as your :) > -- > val ========= Better than having news print all over the chips, eh? I put vinegar on my chips. What do you do? Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:30:43 -0300 Message-ID: <4l8povc0bf9okdrc6ikmbtgcnv8a83slsj@4ax.com> References: <20031014180435.06857.00000660@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066181427 24271818 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 3275 Lines: 67 On 14 Oct 2003 22:04:35 GMT, lustron1@aol.com (Marian) wrote: >>>For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal >>>political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far >>>better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. >>> If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to >>>Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. >>> America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and >>>could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. >>>*That* would have been something for which to be proud. >>> A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the >>>world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be >>>born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its >>>entire history. >>> It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war >>>when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. >>>Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount >>>of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is >>>going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that >>>*some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was >>>first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it >>>into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. >>> To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on >>>this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in >>>which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat >>>going on somewhere. >>> My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to >>>England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that >>>since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in >>>that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . >>>If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to >>>check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades >>>into insignificance. >>> >>>That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. >>> >>>Jan >> >>I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation >>the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two >>irreconcilable ideologies. >> >>One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is >>conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) >>and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its >>day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. >>Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness >>to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. >> >>Paul > >Quite so, Paul > >Sinclair has left for Oz. On Thursday I leave for France for a month. Should be >a respite in 'bickering' threads for a time... >Y'all will have to find your *own* articles. > >Marian >************************************************ >War is Hell, but business is Great... >http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 >********************************************** Have a great time in France, Marian, and enjoy those lovely baguettes and pastry that no one here can imitate. Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <9990-3F8C72F1-256@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:32:24 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca1c4$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066181060 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1114 Lines: 26 Gordon wrote: "wears her hair long enough to fall on her shoulders, even when waved, which she does herself with heated rollers. It seemed such a chore when she washed and curled it that I persuaded her to go to a hairdresser and have it shortened. Big mistake. It was just before we went on our first and only holiday together, and she spent the whole fortnight moaning about the fact that because I had talked her into shortening it, she could not 'take it up' on top properly. She is too 'appearance orientated'.... When I suggested it I was thinking of a much shorter length that would be less work and quickly dressed up by the hotel hairdresser for special evenings. 8-( --" ****************************************** That's a No-No Gordon; don't try to get a woman to change her hair because she'll hate it no matter what and blame it on you! 8-) Jeanette ======= True. I had my hair cut yesterday, so my head feels a lot lighter and my fringe is no longer in my eyes. It's given me a lift. I always go on a Tues as that's the day the haircuts are cheaper...$13. Now I have to colour it again. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8b2aaf$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <9991-3F8C775C-98@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:34:22 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca23a$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066181178 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1353 Lines: 27 > Bobbiewrote: "It's interesting how different people feel comfortable in > different clothes. I wear trackies(sweats) at home in winter, until I go > out. It's still a bit chilly this morning and I am wearing my trackies. > Capri pants are pedal pusher length, aren't they? That's what I wear in > summer when I go out. Elastic waists are indeed comfortable. I wear > stretch jeans so the waist expands in them. I find the slacks which > don't have elastic waist bands uncomfortable." > **************************************** > I wear pants with elastic in the waist. I don't like blue jeans because > they feel to constricting. I have a couple of pairs of pedal pushers, > now called "capri pants". > In my heyday, capri pants fitted closer to the legs. I call them > pedal pushers because they are a little looser in the leg. > Abut the elasticized wists in pants, I usually sit down and rip out the > elastic from the front, stitch securely and voila, my tummie has > breathing room. Some pants even in the same sizes, have uncomfortable > waistlines and ripping out the elastic from the front makes them much > more comfortable. I can't stand anything too tight around my waist. > Jeanette ========= I don't like elastic digging into my waist either. I'm wearing jeans today and sitting, and they're not digging into my waist. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8c753b$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031014184631.06857.00000672@mb-m20.aol.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:36:28 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca2b8$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066181304 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 868 Lines: 29 > >> > I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans > >> >> are stretch jeans. > >> >> > >> >> Bobbie > >> > > >> >I don't know Tar-jay.... > >> >-- > >> >Jean B. > >> > >> Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? That's how a daughter > >> refers to it here. Dint know it was in Oz though... Marian > >======== > >You're spot on, Marian. Target here is owned by Myers now, a big Aussie > >department store, etc. Target has many of the same items as Myers but > >they're less expensive. > >Bobbie > > I owe so much to my children. Without them I would know nothing cool; be never > cool... Marian ============ Many words in the English language are French. We use more French words here than they do in the US. Example....we use serviettes. Napkins have two different connotations...either nappies...or...... Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8b296a$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <9990-3F8C7573-258@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:38:18 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca326$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066181414 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 620 Lines: 16 > Bobbie wrote: "I don't care what lippy I put on, it has disappeared > within half an hour. Krysti has the same problem." > **************************************** > I have the same problem unless I use > "colorstays" lipstick. I think it is by Revlon. (The print on the end > of the tube was too small for my old eyes, even with a magnifying > glass.) Comes in a long tube. It lasts several hours, and when it is > all gone, I can't see it so I don't care! 8-) Jeanette ========= Even the Revlon 'colourstays' one doesn't last on me. I bought that one for Krysti's wedding and it still disappeared. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8c746c$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1iehx9lfeenhu.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:40:18 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca3a1$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066181537 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1485 Lines: 39 "Joy (I think) wrote: "I wear lipstick all the time, but I don't own > >> any > >>> other makeup." > >>> *************************************** > >>> I have other makeup but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had > >>> extremely dry skin, but the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup > >> looks > >>> splotchy after it's been on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the > >>> mood strikes me! I do use moisturizers religiously. Jeanette > >> > >> I did try wearing foundation for a while, but I found that the area over > >> my upper lip always looked as though I hadn't put any makeup on that > >> spot. It looked weird, so I decided to save the cost and trouble of > >> using the foundation. > >> > >> Joy > > ========= > > I must check that out next time I put some foundation on. I use such > > a teeny amount when I do use it that I'm not even sure it shows. I've > > had the same small jar of foundation for 4 years so I obviously > > don't wear much...or very often. > > > Bobbie > > Using foundation should help protect your skin from the elements. We live > by the sea and it can get rather windy at times so I wear foundation which > helps to prevent little thread veins which can appear on fine skin like > mine. I also stay outt of the fierce sun as much as possible > -- > val ============ I usually use a moisturiser made for Aussie conditions....wind, sun, etc. Your fine English skin probably would not cope well in Aussie weather conditions. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> <1hi7pa4dls80l.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8c73f4$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1rqbnnmb2ge79$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:40:59 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca3c7$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066181575 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 151 Lines: 13 " > > You are very fortunate, Val. > > Bobbie > > In more ways than one Bobbie :) > -- > val ========= Yes, we need to count our blessings. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Message-ID: References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:10 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.249.215 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066182192 65.95.249.215 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:12 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:12 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 3634 Lines: 74 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:18:18 +0100, Aries wrote: >On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 -0400, Jan scrawled: > >> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:34:13 +0100, Gordon >> wrote: > >>>Barbara Christian wrote >>>>> Do you think it was their slightly British accents? >>>>> Somehow, some British accents sound so posh. >>>>> T'isn't fair, is it. >>>>> After all, it's only an accent like any other accent. >>>>> Why should we prefer it? >>>>> ---Sea, who thinks about things like this... >>>>================ >>>>Depends on the English accent. There's a huge difference >>>>in them. Cockney doesn't sound so posh, for example. >>>> >>>>Bobbie >>>> >>>I could never stand to watch Eastenders. The accents are absolutely >>>ghaaaaastly my dear! :-) > >> >> Gordon and Val, >> The first time Eastenders was shown here, my youngest son wanted to >> watch it. So, like a dutiful father I sat through it with him. >> Once it was over, his comment was, "That looks like a good show, what >> the hell were they saying?" Dad had to move into translation mode. >> To side-track a little. On my last visit to England, I noticed that >> regional accents were fading away and being replaced with some sort of >> pseudo South Coast accent. The older people still had the West >> Country burr but the kids seemed to be losing it. Is this general? >> A very good friend of mine, a genuine Devon Dumpling maid told me >> that her husband had never heard a Cornish accent. >> She took him to a place that she remembered well from her child-hood, >> which was Marazion. They went on a tour of St. Michael's Mount, the >> home of Lord St.Levan. St. Michael's Mount used to be a small fishing >> village separated from the main-land at high tide, and the tours were >> conducted by men and women from the village, so the Cornish accent was >> very much in evidence. To her horror, and as she described it, "The >> tours are now done by toffee-nosed kids with Oxford accents who don't >> know anything about the area." >> She felt the guide assigned to her party was particularly obnoxious >> and over-bearing so decided to have some fun. During the tour, the >> name of a famous West Country smuggler was mentioned. She raised her >> hand, and when she was acknowledged, commented in the broad Devon >> accent she can use on occasion, "I knows ee. Ee were my >> great-great-grand-father", which he was. Strangely she said, the >> guide was not impressed and merely said, "Quite, madam". >> Following the tour, she cornered one of the guides and asked if John >> was home. When they asked who John was, she told them it was Lord St. >> Leven, and as a child she went out in the race committee boat with him >> on regatta nights, knew him quite well and would like to visit if he >> was home. She said the expressions on their faces were a sight to >> behold. Unfortunately they had no luck at hearing the true Cornish >> accent there. > >> Jan >> "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" > >We used to farm in North Dev0n, our daughter is still there and her partner >is a farmer. He and his family still speak with a lovely soft Devon accent >with lots of ee's and old fashioned country language. I hope country >accents won't die out, we will be poorer without them I fear. Which part of North Devon Val? I spent several years working out of Barnstaple, with North Devon as my territory before I emigrated. Used to cover from Porlock down past Clovelly and Hartland Point then a sweep inland. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Message-ID: References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7j7oov8ua604pe8cj3k2h6uenkuct1uvp5@4ax.com> <3f8c78fa$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:10 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.249.215 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066182192 65.95.249.215 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:12 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:12 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1743 Lines: 48 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:38:23 +1000, "Barbara Christian" wrote: > >"> > > When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often and >> >great >> >> favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious >I >> >> hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( >> >> Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! >> >> -- >> >> val >> >========== >> >I lashed out today and had a proper Cornish pastie. I'll be good for the >> >next month and then will lash out again. >> > >> >Bobbie >> > >> >> Bobbie, >> I would question the phrase 'proper' Cornish pastie. I say this >> because I've never found one outside of Cornwall or Devon. I've seen >> many advertised, but were never the real thing. >> Tell me, what are the dimensions of your Cornish pasties, and what are >> the ingredients? >> >> Jan (A purist when it comes to oggies) >> "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" >=========== >It's about the size of a side plate lengthwise, a proper triangle. >Ingredients: chopped steak, potato, turnip, leeks. It looks >totally different and tastes totally different than the other >pasties sold here. The baker is from Cornwall and has the >accent to match, so I assume it's the real thing. It certainly >tastes and looks the same as the Cornish pasties I had when >in Cornwall. >Bobbie > Bobbie, Close enough. Consider yourself among the lucky ones. The times I've been offered Cornish pasties they have been made with minced beef and are so small they needed all the extra trimmings, potato etc. just to make a meal. I wish I could find one here, then I'd not have to cook them myself. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Message-ID: References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <5I4WJWBEnIj$Ew6g@g3snx.demon.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:10 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.249.215 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066182192 65.95.249.215 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:12 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:12 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 2230 Lines: 54 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:41:56 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Jan wrote > >>Yes, I know the area well. I've sailed across the Sound on many >>occasions. I hope you didn't wave at the sailors. The reason I >>mention this is that in my politically incorrect day someone would >>have called out, (knowing they wouldn't be heard), "All the women not >>wearing knickers wave". Then of course we would wave and see the >>response. Of course there was no TV on the ships so we made our >>own entertainment, even if juvenile. I don't think I should mention >>how the sea-gulls came into the entertainment, suffice to say we hated >>them with a vengeance. >>Did you get up to the Hoe to see where Drake farted around when the >>Spanish were running their first tourist cruise to England? > >Yes, we walked across the Hoe, it's quite a chunk of land, isn't it? > >> Is the >>Barbican still there? > >Yes indeed, and there's a street where there are coins embedded firmly >in the pavement - that may be the Barbicon. > >> Cross over to Cornwall on the Torpoint ferry, >>or is that all history now? > >There is a new bridge now, or was going to be one built, I can't >remember now. We went to Dartmouth where we met a guy I used to work >with and his wife for lunch, and we had coach trips to Looe, Totnes, and >Whatsthenameofthat Abbey. > >> One watering hole was what we called the >>'Long Bar', I can't remember the street name now as it was so many >>years ago, but I still have photos of a drunken night there with some >>of my oppos >>I think I may have seen some paintings of the old dock-yard. Those >>were the days, as an old Chief Petty Officer used to remark, "When the >>ships were wood and the men were steel. To-day we seem to have >>reversed the process." >> >>Jan (In reminiscing mode) >> >I don't remember doing much drinking, it was a naughty holiday, before >she got her divorce, so there were other pursuits.... Now that type of holiday has much to commend it. Adds a whole new meaning to the phrase 'sight-seeing'. However, all the more reason not to wave at the sailors. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Message-ID: References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:11 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.249.215 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066182193 65.95.249.215 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:13 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:13 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 3579 Lines: 69 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:40:57 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Aries wrote >>On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:45:26 -0400, Jan scrawled: >> >>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:34:13 +0100, Gordon >>> wrote: >> >>>>I could never stand to watch Eastenders. The accents are absolutely >>>>ghaaaaastly my dear! :-) >> >>> >>> Gordon and Val, >>> The first time Eastenders was shown here, my youngest son wanted to >>> watch it. So, like a dutiful father I sat through it with him. >>> Once it was over, his comment was, "That looks like a good show, what >>> the hell were they saying?" Dad had to move into translation mode. >>> To side-track a little. On my last visit to England, I noticed that >>> regional accents were fading away and being replaced with some sort of >>> pseudo South Coast accent. The older people still had the West >>> Country burr but the kids seemed to be losing it. Is this general? >>> A very good friend of mine, a genuine Devon Dumpling maid told me >>> that her husband had never heard a Cornish accent. >>> She took him to a place that she remembered well from her child-hood, >>> which was Marazion. They went on a tour of St. Michael's Mount, the >>> home of Lord St.Levan. St. Michael's Mount used to be a small fishing >>> village separated from the main-land at high tide, and the tours were >>> conducted by men and women from the village, so the Cornish accent was >>> very much in evidence. To her horror, and as she described it, "The >>> tours are now done by toffee-nosed kids with Oxford accents who don't >>> know anything about the area." >>> She felt the guide assigned to her party was particularly obnoxious >>> and over-bearing so decided to have some fun. During the tour, the >>> name of a famous West Country smuggler was mentioned. She raised her >>> hand, and when she was acknowledged, commented in the broad Devon >>> accent she can use on occasion, "I knows ee. Ee were my >>> great-great-grand-father", which he was. Strangely she said, the >>> guide was not impressed and merely said, "Quite, madam". >>> Following the tour, she cornered one of the guides and asked if John >>> was home. When they asked who John was, she told them it was Lord St. >>> Leven, and as a child she went out in the race committee boat with him >>> on regatta nights, knew him quite well and would like to visit if he >>> was home. She said the expressions on their faces were a sight to >>> behold. Unfortunately they had no luck at hearing the true Cornish >>> accent there. >> >>> Jan >>> "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" >> >>We used to farm in North Dev0n, our daughter is still there and her partner >>is a farmer. He and his family still speak with a lovely soft Devon accent >>with lots of ee's and old fashioned country language. I hope country >>accents won't die out, we will be poorer without them I fear. > >Well, they aren't in the North! I have a definite >Lancashire/Manchester accent. I only went to Cornwall once on a >Plymouth coach holiday, when we had a day excursion to Looe. Our >driver for the five days had a broad Cornish accent, and we called at a >place where we were given a welcome in Cornish language by a lady. Well me dear Oi'm real glad to 'ear that. It was mainly with the kids I noticed it. Or maybe my ear for the dialect has faded somewhat. My own accent is definitely West Country, now overlaid with Canadian, or so I'm told. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:43:53 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca479$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066181753 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 2153 Lines: 48 > >> One of my buddies said to me "You think ALL women are attractive". > >> Just because I find mature, 'less than perfect' women have a certain > >> appeal.... > >> > >> They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I > >> flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see > >> themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. ;-) > >> -- > >> Gordon > > > >Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much > >more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) > >than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > >perfect "10". > > > In her early life, throughout it really, M****, because of her looks, > attracted the kind of fools who rush in when the nice guys hesitate, and > made some bad mistakes. > > I know I don't really do myself any favours on usenet with some of my > postings, but I can't resist the chance to try to make someone smile. > I am very nervous about making first moves, the exceptions being with my > wife and with M****. A kiss isn't a heavy first move, is it? ;-) > I don't touch, except the woman I'm with. There are three women at the > dancing who have touched me, two only my hand or arm, more a habit of > theirs than anything else. One was so persistent that I told her gently > that M**** might take a dim view if she noticed..... There's another > old dear who always rubs my back when I dance with her, but she does it > with quite a few men. > I think she is a widow who enjoys the warmth of a man's arms and returns > the warmth. Good job she doesn't know the effect it has on me! > > What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm > virtually every time she speaks to him. > Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > -- > Gordon ======== I tend to be a platonic toucher, when I know the person, but am cautious with those I don't know as many people don't feel comfortable being touched. I tend to be more touchy-feely with women than men, because with women friends it's non-sexual, with men......well....... Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b58f0$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be6bf$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c7312$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:46:25 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca50d$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066181901 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1553 Lines: 44 " >=========== > >Aside from winter, the towels become soft anyway, due to the > >humidity. > > Maybe you just have better quality towels. :-) > > > Dryers really use electricity. All our appliances here > >have an energy rating, stars from one to 6. Most of my appliances > >have 5-6. Even my air con has 4œ. I have a dryer which is almost > >an antique so it doesn't have an energy rating, but my neighbour > >just bought a new one and the energy rating is 1œ. In other words, > >it uses a lot of electricity. > > > Ours are energy rated, but I can't remember what the dryer is. > It is only a small one, and the rating is reasonable, I think. > > >I have $70/month automatically debited to Energex. I'm $147 in > >the black at present. It is usually used up in summer with the air > >con. However, if I don't use it all by next March, I may cut the > >monthly debit down to $60-65/month, since I now have solar > >Hart so don't pay anything for my hot water anymore. > > > >Bobbie > > > Last year, Electricity cost me £236, and gas cost £226. > Monthly equivs are £19.66 and £18.83 respectively. > I pay bills at the end of the quarter. > I don't believe in leaving money in the Utilities bank account instead > of mine in summer..... > I could reduce the charges by going monthly DD, but it just about > offsets the advantage of the quarterly credit. > > Gas fired central heating and hot water via Combi boiler. > Electric cooker and electric shower. > > Clockwork computer. :-) > -- > Gordon ========== I do buy good quality towels. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031014180807.06857.00000661@mb-m20.aol.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:48:22 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca581$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066182017 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1055 Lines: 30 > >>You mean you haven't been able to talk one of your girlie-girls into > >>ironing them for you? Hope you're not losing your technique. > >> > >>Bobbie > >> > >One of? I don't fool around. > >Mavis did ask me once if I wanted her to iron my shirts which were > >hanging up in the lounge. I declined. > > > >I could have a life of ease if I brought her here from her rented house > >and married her, and I know she would help to decorate and brighten up > >the place. She would lose her pension supplement and her housing > >benefit and I would pay over £200 more Council tax. I could put half > >my savings in her name and save a little income tax. > >She would get half my Company pension when I died. > > > >Sounds like a good deal for one of us... ;-) > >-- > >Gordon > > Wow. Talk about a "marriage penalty"! Jesus or Dubya's gonna git y'all for > that, you heathen Brits... Marian ============= Wouldn't he just......Dubya that is. My son's been living with his partner for 11 years now. It's accepted here. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8c6f40$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031014190006.06857.00000675@mb-m20.aol.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:49:25 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca5c1$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066182081 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1039 Lines: 34 > >> >> You iron? Okay, there's one thing we don't have in common. I don't > >> >> even own an iron. > >> >> > >> >You have heard me say this before, but when my daughter was in > >> >kindergarten, she asked the teacher what an iron was.... > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Jean B. > >> > >> LOL! I hadn't heard you say this before, Jean.I haven't touched an iron in > >> decades. Marian > >=============== > >Doesn't it get humid where you live? If you don't iron, you must wear > >synthetics, like I do in winter. I don't like ironing which is why I have > >this special system of hanging clothes on the hoist, so they come out > >looking almost ironed and only need a minor touch up before I put > >them on. As I said, I get a heat rash if I wear a synthetic when it's > >hot and humid. > >Bobbie > > Yes, it's very humid here in the summer [6 months at least], and no, I don't > wear synthetics. Ever. If the wrinkles don't fall out, I wear them innaway. > > mussed Marian =========== Good thinking..... mussed Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031014183723.06857.00000670@mb-m20.aol.com> Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:50:13 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca5f1$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066182129 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1258 Lines: 42 > >>>You are right Eugene, there is no shortage of URL's > >> > >>Following up on myself > >> > >>This one is interesting because it shows that not all detainees were > >>captured in combat situations: > >> > >>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/sep2003/guan-s19.shtml > >> > >>Another: > >> > >>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96270,00.html > >> > >>This is one were a group of former U.S. federal judges, diplomats, > >>military officials and human rights advocates urged the Supreme Court on > >>Thursday to review the case of detainees held without being charged at > >>Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere in the name of terrorism. > >> > > > >>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=1896&e=5&u=/nm > /20031009/us_nm/rights_guantanamo_dc_3 > > > > > >No doubt there is a lot of tugging back and forth. > > > >However I think the URL's I provided, from official gov. sources, > >http://usinfo.state.gov , covers most to the questions. > > > >You will have to decide for yourself which is accurate. > > > > > >-- > >Eugene A. Calame > > Oh sure, we should certainly look to *government* websites for the real skinny > on illegally imprisonment. Are you nuts? Marian ========== That's what I was thinking as well. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8ab9b5$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b597a$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8be5ff$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7YVWdhBxoIj$EwaO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: For the women Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:51:35 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca643$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066182211 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 2498 Lines: 72 > >> >> >> "IT IS GOOD TO BE A WOMAN" > >> >> >> 1.We got off the Titanic first. > >> >> >> 2.We can scare male bosses with the mysterious > >> >> >> gynecological disorder excuses. > >> >> >> 3.Taxis stop for us. > >> >> >> 4.We don't look like a frog in a blender when dancing. > >> >> >> 5.No fashion faux pas we make, could ever rival the > >> >> >> Speedo. > >> >> >> 6.We don't have to pass gas to amuse ourselves. > >> >> >> 7.If we forget to shave, no one has to know. > >> >> >> 8.We can congratulate our teammate without ever > >> >> >> touching her rear end. > >> >> >> 9.We never have to reach down every so often to > >> >> >> make sure our privates are still there. > >> >> >> 10.We have the ability to dress ourselves. > >> >> >> 11.We can talk to the opposite sex without having > >> >> >> to picture them naked. > >> >> >> 12.If we marry someone 20 years younger, we are > >> >> >> aware that we will look like an idiot. > >> >> >> 13.We will never regret piercing our ears. > >> >> >> 14.There are times when chocolate really can solve > >> >> >> all your problems. > >> >> >> 15.We can make comments about how silly men are in > >> >> >> their presence because they aren't listening anyway. > >> >> >> ---Not Sea, whose favorites are # 5 and # 9. > >> >> >======= > >> >> >My favourites are 6 and 9. Boys start doing that around > >> >> >age 4.....Guess they never outgrow it, eh? > >> >> > > >> >> >Bobbie > >> >> > > >> >> You'd be no fun to share a lift with. (Elevator for the furriners). > >> >> > >> >> We were watching a medical program once when the doctor said that men > >> >> should examine their testicles regularly by touch to detect any lumps > >or > >> >> swellings. > >> >> > >> >> My wife started chuckling helplessly........ > >> >> When she recovered she said "As if they needed telling - they do it all > >> >> the time, from what I've seen". > >> >> (And she wasn't just talking about me). :-) > >> >> -- > >> >> Gordon > >> >=========== > >> >Every hour of every day, and even in your sleep? > >> >At age 4, my son used to 'twiddle his willy' when he felt > >> >uncomfortable and insecure. > >> > > >> >Bobbie > >> > > >> Funny that - I only do it when I feel comfortable and secure. :-) > >> -- > >> Gordon > >=========== > >And, how often is that? LOL > > > >Bobbie > > > Quality, not quantity m'dear..... > -- > Gordon ============= Whew! That's good to know. Bobbie (taking off her psych hat) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:00:19 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca84f$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066182735 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 3021 Lines: 60 > For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal > political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far > better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. > If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to > Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. > America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and > could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. > *That* would have been something for which to be proud. > A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the > world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be > born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its > entire history. > It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war > when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. > Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount > of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is > going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that > *some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was > first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it > into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. > To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on > this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in > which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat > going on somewhere. > My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to > England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that > since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in > that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . > If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to > check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades > into insignificance. > > That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. > > Jan ============= I feel it's very important to keep abreast of what has happened, what is happening. I agree with you about Afghanistan and not Iraq. Of course, the invasion and occupation of Iraq was essentially for empire building and to usurp Iraq's oil and economy. IMO, the situation in Iraq, the UN's decisions, etc are very important for the world, which is why there is so much focus on it. How it goes will make a difference between the Bush regime attempting to gain dictatorial control of the world vs the US being a part of the world and working in cooperation with the world as they always have in the past. I appreciate the articles which are posted here and appreciate debate, but not personal attacks and abuse. I don't feel that just because we're older we should dissociate ourself from what is happening in the international arena since it will affect all of us, and most especially our children and our children's children. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:03:50 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ca922$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066182946 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 2997 Lines: 62 > >For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal > >political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far > >better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. > > If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to > >Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. > > America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and > >could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. > >*That* would have been something for which to be proud. > > A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the > >world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be > >born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its > >entire history. > > It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war > >when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. > >Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount > >of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is > >going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that > >*some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was > >first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it > >into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. > > To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on > >this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in > >which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat > >going on somewhere. > > My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to > >England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that > >since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in > >that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . > >If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to > >check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades > >into insignificance. > > > >That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. > > > >Jan > > I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation > the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two > irreconcilable ideologies. > > One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is > conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) > and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its > day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. > Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness > to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. > > Paul ============= I agree with you Paul and am both surprised and shocked by the rise in unilateral, nationalistic thinking and the focus on use of force to solve all problems. In reality, this use of force is causing more problems. REVENGE BEGETS ONLY REVENGE http://www.iht.com/articles/113475.html Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:07:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-119-34.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.119.34) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066183663 24141191 68.79.119.34 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 1377 Lines: 30 I think it has a lot to do with upbringing. Some families are touchers, others are very reserved. "Gordon" wrote in message news:T4fc1zAbUIj$EwdQ@g3snx.demon.co.uk... In her early life, throughout it really, M****, because of her looks, attracted the kind of fools who rush in when the nice guys hesitate, and made some bad mistakes. I know I don't really do myself any favours on usenet with some of my postings, but I can't resist the chance to try to make someone smile. I am very nervous about making first moves, the exceptions being with my wife and with M****. A kiss isn't a heavy first move, is it? ;-) I don't touch, except the woman I'm with. There are three women at the dancing who have touched me, two only my hand or arm, more a habit of theirs than anything else. One was so persistent that I told her gently that M**** might take a dim view if she noticed..... There's another old dear who always rubs my back when I dance with her, but she does it with quite a few men. I think she is a widow who enjoys the warmth of a man's arms and returns the warmth. Good job she doesn't know the effect it has on me! What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm virtually every time she speaks to him. Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:12:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20031014183723.06857.00000670@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-119-34.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.119.34) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066184003 23866428 68.79.119.34 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 311 Lines: 17 No, we would like the truth for a change. "Eugene A. Calame" wrote in message news:mo1povsqgjhaniagac0p8d1oc7kaj1jsee@4ax.com... You want both sides don't you.? -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Soldier suicides in Iraq/Positive picture campaign re Iraq Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:15:22 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8cabd6$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066183638 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 843 Lines: 23 "Army probes soldier suicides: Alarmed by the number of suicides among soldiers in Iraq, the Army has asked a team of doctors to determine whether the stress of combat and long deployments is contributing to the deaths. In the past seven months, at least 11 soldiers and three Marines have committed suicide in Iraq, military officials say. That is an annual rate of 17 per 100,000.The numbers suggest the rate in Iraq is above normal." For full article: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-10-13-army-suicides-usat_x.htm This contrasts with this propaganda stunt: "Many soldiers, same letter. Newspapers around U.S. get identical missives from Iraq. They appear to be part of a campaign to present a positive picture of US occupation." For full article: http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7j7oov8ua604pe8cj3k2h6uenkuct1uvp5@4ax.com> <3f8c78fa$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:21:23 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8cad40$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066184000 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1886 Lines: 54 > >"> > > When our children were young I used to make Cornish Pasties often and > >> >great > >> >> favourites they were with the family! Now we are more health concious > >I > >> >> hardly ever make pastry these days, except at Christmas time :( > >> >> Altogether now - AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :(((( !!!!!!! > >> >> -- > >> >> val > >> >========== > >> >I lashed out today and had a proper Cornish pastie. I'll be good for the > >> >next month and then will lash out again. > >> > > >> >Bobbie > >> > > >> > >> Bobbie, > >> I would question the phrase 'proper' Cornish pastie. I say this > >> because I've never found one outside of Cornwall or Devon. I've seen > >> many advertised, but were never the real thing. > >> Tell me, what are the dimensions of your Cornish pasties, and what are > >> the ingredients? > >> > >> Jan (A purist when it comes to oggies) > >> "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" > >=========== > >It's about the size of a side plate lengthwise, a proper triangle. > >Ingredients: chopped steak, potato, turnip, leeks. It looks > >totally different and tastes totally different than the other > >pasties sold here. The baker is from Cornwall and has the > >accent to match, so I assume it's the real thing. It certainly > >tastes and looks the same as the Cornish pasties I had when > >in Cornwall. > >Bobbie > > > > > Bobbie, > Close enough. Consider yourself among the lucky ones. The times I've > been offered Cornish pasties they have been made with minced beef and > are so small they needed all the extra trimmings, potato etc. just to > make a meal. I wish I could find one here, then I'd not have to cook > them myself. > Jan > "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" ============= I do feel I'm fortunate. I know what you mean about the other ones. I'm glad I can buy them so I don't have to cook them. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Touchers Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:26:53 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066184330 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1505 Lines: 35 > > What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm > > virtually every time she speaks to him. > > Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > > I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > > -- > > Gordon > > I think there are - some people do a lot of touching, some do none at > all. People can change in that regard, to a certain extent at least. I > used to be pretty touch-me-not, and then I got in with a couple of > groups who do a lot of strictly friendly hugging. I found I really > liked that. I still seldom initiate a hug, except with family and close > friends, but I do enjoy being hugged. > > OTOH, it bothers me when people (men or women) stand too close when > they're talking to me. I feel as though my personal space is being > invaded. Some people seem to feel a need to stand very close to, and/or > touch the person they are speaking to. In most cases, I think it's just > an innate personality trait. > > Joy ========== My friends and I hugs each other as do my family and I. I do understand your need for personal space and feeling invaded when people stand too close. Having lived in the outback and then in country Queensland for years, I have quite a need for personal space as well. I move back and if the person moves forward, I say that I feel more comfortable at 'this distance' and explain why. Big city people tend to need less personal space than country people. It's always wise to be aware of people's personal space levels. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:28:21 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8caee2$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066184418 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1507 Lines: 38 > I think it has a lot to do with upbringing. Some families are touchers, > others are very reserved. ======== Very true. My Dad was more of a toucher than Mum who was brought up in the English stiff upper lip tradition. Made for some interesting times. Bobbie ******** > In her early life, throughout it really, M****, because of her looks, > attracted the kind of fools who rush in when the nice guys hesitate, and > made some bad mistakes. > > I know I don't really do myself any favours on usenet with some of my > postings, but I can't resist the chance to try to make someone smile. > I am very nervous about making first moves, the exceptions being with my > wife and with M****. A kiss isn't a heavy first move, is it? ;-) > I don't touch, except the woman I'm with. There are three women at the > dancing who have touched me, two only my hand or arm, more a habit of > theirs than anything else. One was so persistent that I told her gently > that M**** might take a dim view if she noticed..... There's another > old dear who always rubs my back when I dance with her, but she does it > with quite a few men. > I think she is a widow who enjoys the warmth of a man's arms and returns > the warmth. Good job she doesn't know the effect it has on me! > > What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm > virtually every time she speaks to him. > Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > -- > Gordon > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <88Gib.176660$0v4.13610391@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f8b5533$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C01D7.79672AB@rcn.com> <3f8c6fed$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:29:21 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8caf1e$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066184478 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1383 Lines: 40 "> > "> > I have no choice in summer. The only sensible things to wear in > the > > > > tropical heat are cotton items. They breathe whereas the > synthetics > > > > don't. Synthetics cause heat rashes, which is why my bras and > > > > knickers are also cotton. > > > > > > > > However, that's why I only iron what I'm planning to wear. > > > > Don't want to make a chore of it. I heat the iron while in the > shower, > > > > walk out in the nutty and iron or at least take the worse wrinkles > out > > > > of the cotton items. I don't do any ironing in winter. Thus my > > > > ironing board becomes a depository for other items in winter. > > > > > > > That's whay I wear cotton t-shirts. No ironing--plus they are > > > comfortable. > > > > > > -- > > > Jean B. > > =========== > > I find they look a bit better when they've had an iron to touch them > > up. However, that's only for the ones I wear when I'm going out. > > I do NOT iron the ones I wear around the house. Suti, Sasha and > > my friends don't mind a wrinkle or two. You should see the > > procedure I have when I hang up clothes so that they dry and > > look mostly ironed. My next door neighbour laughs when she > > sees my 'ironing on the line' methods...but they work. > > > > Bobbie > > If you get the results you want, that's all that counts. > > Joy ========= It works like a charm. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:48:04 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <20031014183723.06857.00000670@mb-m20.aol.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 272 Lines: 13 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:12:59 -0400, "Joan F \(MI\)" wrote: >No, we would like the truth for a change. Then open you mind. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:50:23 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <20031014183723.06857.00000670@mb-m20.aol.com> <3f8ca5f1$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1564 Lines: 54 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:50:13 +1000, "Barbara Christian" wrote: >> >>>You are right Eugene, there is no shortage of URL's >> >> >> >>Following up on myself >> >> >> >>This one is interesting because it shows that not all detainees were >> >>captured in combat situations: >> >> >> >>http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/sep2003/guan-s19.shtml >> >> >> >>Another: >> >> >> >>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96270,00.html >> >> >> >>This is one were a group of former U.S. federal judges, diplomats, >> >>military officials and human rights advocates urged the Supreme Court on >> >>Thursday to review the case of detainees held without being charged at >> >>Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere in the name of terrorism. >> >> >> > >> >>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=1896&e=5&u=/nm >> /20031009/us_nm/rights_guantanamo_dc_3 >> > >> > >> >No doubt there is a lot of tugging back and forth. >> > >> >However I think the URL's I provided, from official gov. sources, >> >http://usinfo.state.gov , covers most to the questions. >> > >> >You will have to decide for yourself which is accurate. >> > >> > >> >-- >> >Eugene A. Calame >> >> Oh sure, we should certainly look to *government* websites for the real >skinny >> on illegally imprisonment. Are you nuts? Marian >========== >That's what I was thinking as well. >Bobbie > All you got to do is be receptive to the truth. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Message-ID: References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:15:19 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.116.92 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066187720 64.231.116.92 (Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:15:20 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:15:20 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 8505 Lines: 148 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:20:36 -0300, bforester wrote: >On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:20:20 -0400, Jan >wrote: > >>For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal >>political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far >>better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. >> If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to >>Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. >> America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and >>could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. >>*That* would have been something for which to be proud. >> A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the >>world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be >>born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its >>entire history. >> It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war >>when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. >>Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount >>of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is >>going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that >>*some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was >>first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it >>into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. >> To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on >>this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in >>which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat >>going on somewhere. >> My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to >>England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that >>since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in >>that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . >>If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to >>check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades >>into insignificance. >> >>That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. >> >>Jan > >I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation >the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two >irreconcilable ideologies. > >One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is >conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) >and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its >day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. >Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness >to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. > >Paul Interesting concept Paul, however, I see the reactions as being caused simply by fear. Remember that until 9/11 any attacks on US and other countries installations were in foreign lands. This could be reported at supper time on CNN and be greeted with the expected tut-tutting, in turn to be followed by the evening's 'entertainment'. 9/11 on the other hand brought the reality of terror activities right into the States which had some idea that this could never happen to them. Once this happened there was turmoil. For those on the left it was a case of "Why do they hate us so much, we must find out and make them love us." While for the right, it was a case of "Let's blow them away." Basically the pacifist side driven by the fear that anything they do may upset someone and make things worse and the aggressive side driven by the fear that if they don't do something it will only get worse. The fore-going is of course greatly simplified. When I mentioned this event to my brother who was in ignorance of it as he happened to be in Portugal at the time. He had seen it on TV in a bar, but not speaking the language sufficiently well to follow the report assumed it was advertising a new movie. His comment to me was, "Tough, we've lived with that shit for 30 years." Thinking about this seemingly heartless comment, I realised he was right. This terrorism thing has been going on for years, but the US was in isolation from it, so could ignore it. Now we come to the complicated bit. I don't believe the States has the psyche, for want of a better word, for peace-keeping or peace-making. The whole attitude, even from the left is to attack, using any excuse or ammunition available, hence the acrimony and name calling. The left attacks the right for doing something, the right attacks the left and the perceived enemy. Both going 'gung-ho' at it. I don't believe the concept of "Softly, softly, catchee monkey" has any meaning for them. By them I am referring to the government and the top military brass who seem incapable of learning from other's mistakes. As an example of the last. During the days of the Viet-nam war, my BIL as a member of the SAS went, with a team to Viet-nam to advise the American military on what to do to win. This advice was based on British knowledge, hard-won I might add, in Malaya. The concept was the one talked about a great deal now of winning the hearts and minds of the locals. The Brit approach in Malaya was one of going to a village and talking to the head-man. Telling him they were aware that the bandits were taking their rice and leaving them hungry and did they want this to continue, they were not blaming the village for feeding the communists as the villagers had no choice. If the village head-man agreed that he would rather keep the rice for his own people, then all he was advised to do was send someone, after the bandits had left, to advise the Brits. They then pursued the bandits, set up ambushes and killed them. Gradually, very gradually, they cleaned up area after area by this method and had the local people on their side. The American brass ignored this advice, stating they would do it their way and promptly destroyed village after village, getting hate from the villagers instead of assistance. The bottom line was that the Brits won in Malaya while the Americans were forced to leave Viet-nam. The same thing happened in Afghanistan. I read a report where some US special forces, working with their Brit counter-parts had subdued one of the northern areas. They were on good terms with the locals, respected their traditions regarding the women and didn't use much force at all. The locals then told them where the arms dumps were, when the Al-quaida or the Taliban were in the area and where. In short, full co-operation in return for kindness, respect and medical treatment for those who needed it. Then some US paratroops were assigned to the area. The special forces guys briefed them on what had been going on and that all was quiet, they offered to accompany the paratroop patrols as they were known to the locals. I believe it was a captain in charge of the paras who said, "I don't need your help, we'll do it my way." His way was to kick in doors to search for weapons, even into the women's quarters, which was a definite no-no. One of the special force men reported that, "This arse-hole has undone 6 months of hard work in a few hours." I read another report recently from Iraq which I refrained from posting because quite frankly it made me sick to read it. (If you are interested, let me know, I'll either post it here or send it by e-mail.) It seems an American officer, deciding that some local farmers had not been telling all they knew, ordered the fields and date-palms bull-dozed in retaliation. (Does this sound familiar?) This is heartless and in direct violation of the Geneva Convention regarding the treatment of civilians in occupied territories. This particular officer, if the report is true, should be hauled before the world court and sentenced. However, I don't see this happening, but with this attitude, I can, unfortunately see nothing but disaster ahead and hope that the British government will withdraw their troops from this theatre. I too am glad that our government did not support this ill-advised adventure other than the ships we already had in the area. However, I do feel that Cretien should have offered moral support and not got into the Bush bashing that several of his members did. Sorry this is so long, but one thing seemed to lead naturally to the next. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:29:57 -0300 Message-ID: References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> <3f8ca922$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066188581 23482885 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 3534 Lines: 71 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:03:50 +1000, "Barbara Christian" wrote: > >> >For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal >> >political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far >> >better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. >> > If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to >> >Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. >> > America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and >> >could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. >> >*That* would have been something for which to be proud. >> > A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the >> >world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be >> >born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its >> >entire history. >> > It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war >> >when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. >> >Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount >> >of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is >> >going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that >> >*some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was >> >first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it >> >into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. >> > To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on >> >this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in >> >which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat >> >going on somewhere. >> > My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to >> >England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that >> >since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in >> >that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . >> >If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to >> >check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades >> >into insignificance. >> > >> >That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. >> > >> >Jan >> >> I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation >> the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two >> irreconcilable ideologies. >> >> One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is >> conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) >> and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its >> day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. >> Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness >> to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. >> >> Paul >============= >I agree with you Paul and am both surprised and shocked by the rise >in unilateral, nationalistic thinking and the focus on use of force to >solve all problems. In reality, this use of force is causing more >problems. > >REVENGE BEGETS ONLY REVENGE >http://www.iht.com/articles/113475.html > >Bobbie A very disturbing article, so many innocent people killed! And the act was in response of .... which was in response of .... which was in response of .... which was in response of .. which was in response of ... and on an on. And the dummies on both sides sit and decide that if only we get tough enough all this will stop! They haven't heard of human nature or basic psychology .. ! Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Message-ID: References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> <3f8ca84f$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:00:13 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.114.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066190415 64.231.114.190 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:00:15 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:00:15 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 5755 Lines: 109 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:00:19 +1000, "Barbara Christian" wrote: > >> For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal >> political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far >> better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. >> If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to >> Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. >> America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and >> could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. >> *That* would have been something for which to be proud. >> A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the >> world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be >> born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its >> entire history. >> It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war >> when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. >> Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount >> of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is >> going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that >> *some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was >> first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it >> into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. >> To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on >> this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in >> which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat >> going on somewhere. >> My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to >> England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that >> since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in >> that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . >> If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to >> check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades >> into insignificance. >> >> That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. >> >> Jan >============= Bobbie, I've interspersed my responses to your post as you covered several areas: >I feel it's very important to keep abreast of what has happened, what >is happening. I agree with you about Afghanistan and not Iraq. Of >course, the invasion and occupation of Iraq was essentially for >empire building and to usurp Iraq's oil and economy. Other than stating, as I have, that I feel the whole adventure was ill-advised and a blunder, I will not speculate further on the reasons. You, of course are entitled to your own opinions. I don't hate the US, I just think a great mistake was made. In fact I admire President Bush for taking action against terrorism. I just question his methods. >IMO, the situation in Iraq, the UN's decisions, etc are very >important for the world, which is why there is so much focus >on it. How it goes will make a difference between the Bush >regime attempting to gain dictatorial control of the world vs >the US being a part of the world and working in cooperation >with the world as they always have in the past. Your faith in the UN is touching. I'm afraid I do not share your faith in that body doing anything constructive. Koffi Annan has shown himself to be weak as far as I'm concerned and not suitable for the post. He permitted the genocide in Rwanda. When he was advised by the Canadian General on the spot what was happening, he ignored his pleas for assistance and clearance to take action. As a result, several Belgian peace-keepers lost their lives. Not to mention about a million Africans. Again, during Gulf War 1, it was the 'glorious' UN that stopped the pursuit of Saddam's army into Iraq. That was the time to have ended Husseins rule once and for all. Therefor, in my opinion, responsibility for the current Iraq debacle rests on the shoulders of the UN, not the US. Those clowns at the UN do not seem to get it through their little liberal heads that war is war and must be ended in one way or another. A cease fire is not the end. Surely to God, WW1 ending in a cease-fire and armistice should have taught them something, but obviously it didn't which makes the blood-shed of that time all the more pathetic. > I appreciate the articles which are posted here and appreciate debate, >but not personal attacks and abuse. You must be one of the few. Any article I've seen posted here has been left-wing propaganda posted by Marian. If Marian had posted her own thoughts on the subjects that would have been different but she gives the impression of never having had an original thought pass through her head. I agree with you about debate, but I've seen precious little of it here. The general tone which I can determine is one of mud-slinging at the US and President Bush himself. One cannot debate a news-paper article either as the writer is not present to defend their stance. >I don't feel that just because we're older we should >dissociate ourself from what is happening in the international >arena since it will affect all of us, and most especially our >children and our children's children. With three wars, in which I have been a somewhat unwilling participant, under my belt, I can't get too excited at what happens elsewhere else in the world. However, should some country decide to invade or threaten Canada, I'll be first in line to be armed and I'll certainly take a few of them with me. If it's to affect my kids and grand-kids, they will have to learn to deal with it as I had to. > >Bobbie > Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Soldier suicides in Iraq/Positive picture campaign re Iraq Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:07:56 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <7cepovcu87l74vktt4o4tk2mrfm9av5hqm@4ax.com> References: <3f8cabd6$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 2161 Lines: 55 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:15:22 +1000, "Barbara Christian" wrote: > >"Army probes soldier suicides: >Alarmed by the number of suicides among soldiers in Iraq, the Army has asked >a team of doctors to determine whether the stress of combat and long >deployments is contributing to the deaths. In the past seven months, at >least 11 soldiers and three Marines have committed suicide in Iraq, military >officials say. That is an annual rate of 17 per 100,000.The numbers suggest >the rate in Iraq is above normal." >From the article ------------------------------ In the past seven months, at least 11 soldiers and three Marines have committed suicide in Iraq, military officials say. That is an annual rate of 17 per 100,000. The Navy also is investigating one possible suicide. And about a dozen other Army deaths are under investigation and could include suicides. The numbers suggest the rate in Iraq is above normal. Last year, the military services reported 8 to 9 suicides per 100,000 people. The Army rate is usually higher, 10 to 13 per 100,000. That mirrors the rate for the same age group in the general population ------------------------------- The numbers given indicates the suicide rate for the Army has doubled from about 1 per month per 100,000 in normal times to 2 for those stationed in Iraq. I would be surprised if the suicide rate of Army personal was not higher in Iraq than it is at home and normal times. > >For full article: >http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-10-13-army-suicides-usat_x.htm > >This contrasts with this propaganda stunt: >"Many soldiers, same letter. Newspapers around U.S. get identical missives >from Iraq. They appear to be part of a campaign to present a positive >picture of US occupation." >For full article: >http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml > >Bobbie > > My reading of the article in The Olympian indicates that most of the soldiers contracted by GNS (GANNETT NEWS SERVICE ) confirmed the content of the letter. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 04:29:45 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Message-ID: <20031015002945.29165.00000623@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 990 Lines: 55 >From: Jan [...] >Any article I've seen posted here has >been left-wing propaganda posted by Marian. If Marian had posted her >own thoughts on the subjects that would have been different but she >gives the impression of never having had an original thought pass >through her head. I agree with you about debate, but I've seen >precious little of it here. The general tone which I can determine is >one of mud-slinging at the US and President Bush himself. One cannot >debate a news-paper article either as the writer is not present to >defend their stance. [...] When I post an article, the stance becomes mine own and I will defend it against all comers. Why should I natter on with a personal, private opinion when others say what I mean so much better? Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 04:42:08 GMT References: <3f8ca922$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Message-ID: <20031015004208.29165.00000626@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 1400 Lines: 62 >> I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation >> the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two >> irreconcilable ideologies. >> >> One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is >> conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) >> and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its >> day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. >> Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness >> to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. >> >> Paul >============= >I agree with you Paul and am both surprised and shocked by the rise >in unilateral, nationalistic thinking and the focus on use of force to >solve all problems. In reality, this use of force is causing more >problems. > >REVENGE BEGETS ONLY REVENGE >http://www.iht.com/articles/113475.html > >Bobbie Spiraling tragedy. Sharon with his penchant for military solutions certainly finds boon companions in our Dubya-Cheney, doesn't he? But Sharon isn't only about military solutions. He was the one who initiated the settler program, and continues it to this day... Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 04:46:25 GMT References: <6oMWBvBWqIj$EwZQ@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Message-ID: <20031015004625.29165.00000627@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 454 Lines: 48 >Marian wrote >>>> >>Sinclair has left for Oz. > >I've not read anything from Sea today, has she gone with him? >He's a sly dog...... >-- >Gordon Trust you to put a chuckle into this thread, Gordon... Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 04:48:39 GMT References: <4l8povc0bf9okdrc6ikmbtgcnv8a83slsj@4ax.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Message-ID: <20031015004839.29165.00000628@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 678 Lines: 53 >>Sinclair has left for Oz. On Thursday I leave for France for a month. Should >be >>a respite in 'bickering' threads for a time... >>Y'all will have to find your *own* articles. >> >>Marian >Have a great time in France, Marian, and enjoy those lovely baguettes >and pastry that no one here can imitate. > >Paul Thank you, Paul! I intend to, but will probably be here until Thursday noonish when I have to present myself at the airport. Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Touchers X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:49:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.48 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066193392 32.103.153.48 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:49:52 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 04:49:52 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2081 Lines: 51 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > > > What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm > > > virtually every time she speaks to him. > > > Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > > > I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > > > -- > > > Gordon > > > > I think there are - some people do a lot of touching, some do none at > > all. People can change in that regard, to a certain extent at least. I > > used to be pretty touch-me-not, and then I got in with a couple of > > groups who do a lot of strictly friendly hugging. I found I really > > liked that. I still seldom initiate a hug, except with family and close > > friends, but I do enjoy being hugged. > > > > OTOH, it bothers me when people (men or women) stand too close when > > they're talking to me. I feel as though my personal space is being > > invaded. Some people seem to feel a need to stand very close to, and/or > > touch the person they are speaking to. In most cases, I think it's just > > an innate personality trait. > > > > Joy > ========== > My friends and I hugs each other as do my family and I. > I do understand your need for personal space and feeling > invaded when people stand too close. Having lived in the > outback and then in country Queensland for years, I have > quite a need for personal space as well. I move back and > if the person moves forward, I say that I feel more comfortable > at 'this distance' and explain why. Big city people tend to need > less personal space than country people. It's always wise to > be aware of people's personal space levels. > Bobbie Yes, it is wise. Sadly, few people are so aware. In fact, it seems to me that most people don't often realize that other people have different needs from what they have. I've heard people say, "That wouldn't bother me, so it shouldn't bother you." Another of my 'favorites' is "anybody can afford that", which really means is, "Because of my income and priorities, I can afford it." Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 04:51:09 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: And here's another on Message-ID: <20031015005109.29165.00000629@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 890 Lines: 64 > >Marian wrote >>>>[Great page, Sea!] Reminds me to wonder where did the phrase, "Creature >with >>>>two backs" come from? >>>> >>>"Beast with two backs" is more alliterative. :-) >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>Yes, of course it is. Stupid of me. So, where did it come from? Marian > >I Googled....... > >Meaning > Partners engaged in sexual intercourse. > Origin > This modern sounding phrase is in fact at least as early as >Shakespeare. From Othello. Iago: 'I am one, sir, that comes to tell you >your daughter and the Moor are now making the beast with two backs'. > >HTH >-- >Gordon Yes. LOL! I knew that. Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 04:54:38 GMT References: <3f8c8c1d.3585255@news.individual.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Message-ID: <20031015005438.29165.00000630@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 543 Lines: 52 >>>Eee! and they reckon they 'ad it tough in Yorkshire..... >>> >>>jingles (that should draw somebody out) >>>> >>Oh no! Not the dreaded Monty Python "We lived in a shoe-box" thread. >>8-) >>-- >>Gordon > >Certainly not....we wore that out with Lanky, and Lyndon.... > >jingles Where are they, by the way? Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 04:56:40 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Message-ID: <20031015005640.29165.00000631@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 906 Lines: 59 >> > That's whay I wear cotton t-shirts. No ironing--plus they are >> > comfortable. >> > >> > -- >> > Jean B. >> =========== >> I find they look a bit better when they've had an iron to touch them >> up. However, that's only for the ones I wear when I'm going out. >> I do NOT iron the ones I wear around the house. Suti, Sasha and >> my friends don't mind a wrinkle or two. You should see the >> procedure I have when I hang up clothes so that they dry and >> look mostly ironed. My next door neighbour laughs when she >> sees my 'ironing on the line' methods...but they work. >> >> Bobbie > >If you get the results you want, that's all that counts. > >Joy Absolutely. Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 05:02:42 GMT References: <3f8ca581$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20031015010242.29165.00000632@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 1084 Lines: 58 [...] >> >I could have a life of ease if I brought her here from her rented house >> >and married her, and I know she would help to decorate and brighten up >> >the place. She would lose her pension supplement and her housing >> >benefit and I would pay over £200 more Council tax. I could put half >> >my savings in her name and save a little income tax. >> >She would get half my Company pension when I died. >> > >> >Sounds like a good deal for one of us... ;-) >> >-- >> >Gordon >> >> Wow. Talk about a "marriage penalty"! Jesus or Dubya's gonna git y'all for >> that, you heathen Brits... Marian >============= >Wouldn't he just......Dubya that is. My son's been living with his partner >for 11 years now. It's accepted here. >Bobbie Here as well. All my four lived with their partners for several years before marrying. Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 05:03:54 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power Message-ID: <20031015010354.29165.00000633@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 665 Lines: 57 >>>>Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? >>> >>>Have a silver star in your exercise book, go top of the class, and stay >>>behind and see me after lessons. There could be a gold star in it for >>>you............ >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>Cool. Er...what did you have in mind? >> >>Marian > >Your expecting? That was quick! > >How about French lessons? >-- >Gordon How do you say, "knocked up" in French? Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 05:07:02 GMT References: <3f8ca2b8$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Women in Power Message-ID: <20031015010702.29165.00000634@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 748 Lines: 50 >> I owe so much to my children. Without them I would know nothing cool; be >never >> cool... Marian >============ >Many words in the English language are French. We use more French words >here than they do in the US. Example....we use serviettes. Napkins have two >different connotations...either nappies...or...... >Bobbie Well, that's understandable isn't it? You're waay closer to England culturally than we are here. And they use those terms, don't they? Corsage, garage, espionage... Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 05:09:37 GMT References: <24OVlPAf+Ij$EwZB@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Message-ID: <20031015010937.29165.00000635@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 444 Lines: 52 >>>Dirty Den is back! >>>-- >>>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 17:58:59 >>>http://copelands.co.uk/val >> >>Didn't he die? >> >>a puzzled Marian >> >Didn't JR get shot? >-- >Gordon Who shot him? I've forgotten. Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lustron1@aol.com (Marian) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 15 Oct 2003 05:10:52 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Message-ID: <20031015011052.29165.00000636@mb-m06.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 950 Lines: 60 >Marian wrote >>>>I keep up with Eastenders here. We're in 1999... Anyone else watch this? >>>Brits? >>>>What's going on there currently? >>>> >>>Dirty Den is back. That's all I know, never watched it. >>>The bad news is - you are going to lose Eastenders. Didn't you know? >>>My daughter is furious....... >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>Back from the dead? I loved Den. Grieved when he died. Lose it? Why? We're >>seeing it [2 episodes] at 11:00 pm on Sunday nights, and 4 years >behind...How >>could PBS get away with that? Marian > >I think she watches it on BBC America? >-- >Gordon Ohhh. Well then, she's probably current with it. Still I can't imagine the BBC cancelling it for addicted merkans... Marian ************************************************ War is Hell, but business is Great... http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1209821&pathID=1753 ********************************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:05 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> <3f8ca922$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:58:33 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ce02a$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066197034 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 4745 Lines: 98 > >> >For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal > >> >political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far > >> >better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. > >> > If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to > >> >Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. > >> > America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and > >> >could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. > >> >*That* would have been something for which to be proud. > >> > A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the > >> >world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be > >> >born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its > >> >entire history. > >> > It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war > >> >when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. > >> >Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount > >> >of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is > >> >going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that > >> >*some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was > >> >first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it > >> >into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. > >> > To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on > >> >this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in > >> >which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat > >> >going on somewhere. > >> > My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to > >> >England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that > >> >since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in > >> >that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . > >> >If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to > >> >check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades > >> >into insignificance. > >> > > >> >That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. > >> > > >> >Jan > >> > >> I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation > >> the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two > >> irreconcilable ideologies. > >> > >> One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is > >> conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) > >> and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its > >> day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. > >> Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness > >> to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. > >> > >> Paul > >============= > >I agree with you Paul and am both surprised and shocked by the rise > >in unilateral, nationalistic thinking and the focus on use of force to > >solve all problems. In reality, this use of force is causing more > >problems. > > > >REVENGE BEGETS ONLY REVENGE > >http://www.iht.com/articles/113475.html > > > >Bobbie > > A very disturbing article, so many innocent people killed! And the act > was in response of .... which was in response of .... which was in > response of .... which was in response of .. which was in response of > ... and on an on. And the dummies on both sides sit and decide that if > only we get tough enough all this will stop! They haven't heard of > human nature or basic psychology .. ! > > Paul ============== I agree with you 100%. I assume you heard about the peace plan which Israeli opposition leaders and Palestinians have been working on. "Israeli opposition politicians, intellectuals and former Palestinian ministers have united to propose a peace plan to put an end to years of bloodshed in the region. Under the proposals, drawn up after two and a half years of clandestine negotiations, the Palestinians would give up the right of return for refugees who fled or were forced out of what is now Israel in 1948. In exchange, a new Palestinian state would have sovereignty over one of the most fought-over sites in the world: the Haram al-Sharif, or Temple Mount, sacred to Jews and Muslims." I read a number of articles yesterday which discussed the entire plan, which looks quite good. However, it won't happen as long as Sharon's in power. He immediately rejected the plan without even looking at it and said: "By what right are left-wing people proposing moves that Israel can never do, nor will ever do?" Not while he's in power, certainly. For the complete article: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=453125 Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:49:12 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8cec0a$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066200075 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 11416 Lines: 209 > >>For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal > >>political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far > >>better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. > >> If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to > >>Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. > >> America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and > >>could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. > >>*That* would have been something for which to be proud. > >> A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the > >>world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be > >>born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its > >>entire history. > >> It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war > >>when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. > >>Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount > >>of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is > >>going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that > >>*some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was > >>first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it > >>into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. > >> To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on > >>this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in > >>which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat > >>going on somewhere. > >> My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to > >>England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that > >>since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in > >>that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . > >>If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to > >>check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades > >>into insignificance. > >> > >>That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. > >> > >>Jan > > > >I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation > >the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two > >irreconcilable ideologies. > > > >One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is > >conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) > >and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its > >day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. > >Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness > >to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. > > > >Paul > > > Interesting concept Paul, however, I see the reactions as being > caused simply by fear. Remember that until 9/11 any attacks on US > and other countries installations were in foreign lands. This could be > reported at supper time on CNN and be greeted with the expected > tut-tutting, in turn to be followed by the evening's 'entertainment'. > 9/11 on the other hand brought the reality of terror activities > right into the States which had some idea that this could never happen > to them. > Once this happened there was turmoil. For those on the left it was > a case of "Why do they hate us so much, we must find out and make them > love us." While for the right, it was a case of "Let's blow them > away." Basically the pacifist side driven by the fear that anything > they do may upset someone and make things worse and the aggressive > side driven by the fear that if they don't do something it will only > get worse. The fore-going is of course greatly simplified. > When I mentioned this event to my brother who was in ignorance of it > as he happened to be in Portugal at the time. He had seen it on TV in > a bar, but not speaking the language sufficiently well to follow the > report assumed it was advertising a new movie. His comment to me > was, "Tough, we've lived with that shit for 30 years." Thinking > about this seemingly heartless comment, I realised he was right. This > terrorism thing has been going on for years, but the US was in > isolation from it, so could ignore it. > Now we come to the complicated bit. I don't believe the States has > the psyche, for want of a better word, for peace-keeping or > peace-making. The whole attitude, even from the left is to attack, > using any excuse or ammunition available, hence the acrimony and name > calling. The left attacks the right for doing something, the right > attacks the left and the perceived enemy. Both going 'gung-ho' at it. > I don't believe the concept of "Softly, softly, catchee monkey" has > any meaning for them. By them I am referring to the government and the > top military brass who seem incapable of learning from other's > mistakes. > As an example of the last. During the days of the Viet-nam war, my > BIL as a member of the SAS went, with a team to Viet-nam to advise the > American military on what to do to win. This advice was based on > British knowledge, hard-won I might add, in Malaya. The concept was > the one talked about a great deal now of winning the hearts and minds > of the locals. The Brit approach in Malaya was one of going to a > village and talking to the head-man. Telling him they were aware that > the bandits were taking their rice and leaving them hungry and did > they want this to continue, they were not blaming the village for > feeding the communists as the villagers had no choice. If the village > head-man agreed that he would rather keep the rice for his own people, > then all he was advised to do was send someone, after the bandits had > left, to advise the Brits. They then pursued the bandits, set up > ambushes and killed them. Gradually, very gradually, they cleaned up > area after area by this method and had the local people on their side. > The American brass ignored this advice, stating they would do it their > way and promptly destroyed village after village, getting hate from > the villagers instead of assistance. The bottom line was that the > Brits won in Malaya while the Americans were forced to leave Viet-nam. > The same thing happened in Afghanistan. I read a report where some > US special forces, working with their Brit counter-parts had subdued > one of the northern areas. They were on good terms with the locals, > respected their traditions regarding the women and didn't use much > force at all. The locals then told them where the arms dumps were, > when the Al-quaida or the Taliban were in the area and where. In > short, full co-operation in return for kindness, respect and medical > treatment for those who needed it. > Then some US paratroops were assigned to the area. The special forces > guys briefed them on what had been going on and that all was quiet, > they offered to accompany the paratroop patrols as they were known to > the locals. I believe it was a captain in charge of the paras who > said, "I don't need your help, we'll do it my way." His way was to > kick in doors to search for weapons, even into the women's quarters, > which was a definite no-no. One of the special force men reported > that, "This arse-hole has undone 6 months of hard work in a few > hours." > I read another report recently from Iraq which I refrained from > posting because quite frankly it made me sick to read it. (If you are > interested, let me know, I'll either post it here or send it by > e-mail.) It seems an American officer, deciding that some local > farmers had not been telling all they knew, ordered the fields and > date-palms bull-dozed in retaliation. (Does this sound familiar?) > This is heartless and in direct violation of the Geneva Convention > regarding the treatment of civilians in occupied territories. This > particular officer, if the report is true, should be hauled before the > world court and sentenced. However, I don't see this happening, but > with this attitude, I can, unfortunately see nothing but disaster > ahead and hope that the British government will withdraw their troops > from this theatre. > I too am glad that our government did not support this ill-advised > adventure other than the ships we already had in the area. However, I > do feel that Cretien should have offered moral support and not got > into the Bush bashing that several of his members did. > > Sorry this is so long, but one thing seemed to lead naturally to the > next. > > Jan =========== Excellent analysis! As for the points you made: * Terrorism has been going on for years, but the US was isolated from it, so could ignore it.............................. I feel the big difference was that it was a large terrorist attack in their country. And the general American attitude tends to be that they are so strong that nobody would dare attack their country. * Driven by fear..................................................... Instead of calming the fear and encouraging resolution of the trauma and PTS, the Bush regime used the fear and shock to institute their propaganda program in order to increase the fear, trauma and PTS, in order to put in place the Neo-Con's NPAC plan for empire-building and world domination by a fascist style dictatorship, of the world, of the US. As far as I'm concerned, using the trauma and fear for their mind control of the US population was a moral crime. * I don't believe the States has the psyche for peace-keeping or peace-making............................................. I don't either. The psyche has developed into a penchant for wars, power and control and violence as the answer for anything. Violence is even the theme of the national anthem: 'rocket's red flare, bombs bursting in the air......' The emphasis in dealing with other nations has always tended to be attack, control, blackmail, threaten, coerce. However, this is by far the worst I have ever seen it. I had hoped that as the US matured it would drop the frontier mentality and gain negotiation, diplomacy and as you say, 'Softly, softly, catchee monkey' skills. But, I don't see any signs of this happening, and it certainly won't happen while the wild west cowboy is in office. * Malaya & the Brits/ Vietnam & the Yanks............. The differences in approach have been patently obvious for half a century. The Brits way works, the Yank way creates more angst, anger and retaliation. I've been following the situation in Afghanistan closely and I agree with your assessment there as well. And, as you say, the same thing is happening in Iraq, and will keep getting worse as long as the Yanks are determined to occupy Iraq and usurp their oil and economy. The UN and the more 'mature' nations are aware of this. Even the less 'mature' nations are aware of this. * Yank bulldozing of Iraqi date palms in retaliation........ I read that article too and like you was so aghast that it took me a day to even post it to my epals around the world. Shades of Nazi Germany. I evidently deleted it and couldn't find it again. If you still have it, I think you should post it. * Involvement in US Iraq war...................... I'm proud of the Canadian government's stand as well, and ashamed of our participation there. At least we've withdrawn our troops. I agree that Britain should as well. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> <3f8ca84f$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:52:19 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8cecc9$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066200281 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 5899 Lines: 109 > >> For the record. I believe that the Iraq invasion was a colossal > >> political, diplomatic and military blunder. It would have been far > >> better, in my estimation to complete the job in Afghanistan. > >> If the resources now being wasted in Iraq had been deployed to > >> Afghanistan, that country may have looked better now than it does. > >> America would have retained the world opinion it had achieved and > >> could grow in stature by assisting in the re-building that sorry land. > >> *That* would have been something for which to be proud. > >> A free Afghanistan would also have been a far better beacon for the > >> world than the current Iraq situation. However, it should also be > >> born in mind that Afghanistan has only been conquered once in its > >> entire history. > >> It seems to me to be the height of stupidity to pursue another war > >> when the first one isn't brought to a successful conclusion. > >> Having said that. The Iraq war is now history. It happened. No amount > >> of rhetoric, back-stabbing, snide comments or slanderous insults is > >> going to change it. Live with it, move on, and hope against hope that > >> *some* good will eventually emerge, bearing in mind that when Iraq was > >> first formed as a country it took something like 20 years to lick it > >> into shape, and even then was not 100% successful. > >> To those who blather on about *peace* in the world, in my 67 years on > >> this sorry excuse for a civilized planet, I do not recall one year in > >> which there was peace throughout the world, there was always some spat > >> going on somewhere. > >> My brother made an interesting comment during my last visit to > >> England. He had spent over 20 years in the British army and said that > >> since the Battle of Waterloo, the British army has had one year in > >> that time-span when it has not been in action somewhere in the world . > >> If this is true, and frankly I don't have the time or inclination to > >> check it out, then the American record, which keeps cropping up, fades > >> into insignificance. > >> > >> That's my rant for the day. Not that it will do any good. > >> > >> Jan > >============= > Bobbie, I've interspersed my responses to your post as you covered > several areas: > >I feel it's very important to keep abreast of what has happened, what > >is happening. I agree with you about Afghanistan and not Iraq. Of > >course, the invasion and occupation of Iraq was essentially for > >empire building and to usurp Iraq's oil and economy. > > Other than stating, as I have, that I feel the whole adventure was > ill-advised and a blunder, I will not speculate further on the > reasons. You, of course are entitled to your own opinions. I don't > hate the US, I just think a great mistake was made. In fact I admire > President Bush for taking action against terrorism. I just question > his methods. > > >IMO, the situation in Iraq, the UN's decisions, etc are very > >important for the world, which is why there is so much focus > >on it. How it goes will make a difference between the Bush > >regime attempting to gain dictatorial control of the world vs > >the US being a part of the world and working in cooperation > >with the world as they always have in the past. > > Your faith in the UN is touching. I'm afraid I do not share your faith > in that body doing anything constructive. Koffi Annan has shown > himself to be weak as far as I'm concerned and not suitable for the > post. He permitted the genocide in Rwanda. When he was advised by > the Canadian General on the spot what was happening, he ignored his > pleas for assistance and clearance to take action. As a result, > several Belgian peace-keepers lost their lives. Not to mention about a > million Africans. > Again, during Gulf War 1, it was the 'glorious' UN that stopped the > pursuit of Saddam's army into Iraq. That was the time to have ended > Husseins rule once and for all. Therefor, in my opinion, > responsibility for the current Iraq debacle rests on the shoulders of > the UN, not the US. > Those clowns at the UN do not seem to get it through their little > liberal heads that war is war and must be ended in one way or another. > A cease fire is not the end. Surely to God, WW1 ending in a cease-fire > and armistice should have taught them something, but obviously it > didn't which makes the blood-shed of that time all the more pathetic. > > > I appreciate the articles which are posted here and appreciate debate, > >but not personal attacks and abuse. > > You must be one of the few. Any article I've seen posted here has > been left-wing propaganda posted by Marian. If Marian had posted her > own thoughts on the subjects that would have been different but she > gives the impression of never having had an original thought pass > through her head. I agree with you about debate, but I've seen > precious little of it here. The general tone which I can determine is > one of mud-slinging at the US and President Bush himself. One cannot > debate a news-paper article either as the writer is not present to > defend their stance. > > >I don't feel that just because we're older we should > >dissociate ourself from what is happening in the international > >arena since it will affect all of us, and most especially our > >children and our children's children. > > With three wars, in which I have been a somewhat unwilling > participant, under my belt, I can't get too excited at what happens > elsewhere else in the world. However, should some country decide to > invade or threaten Canada, I'll be first in line to be armed and I'll > certainly take a few of them with me. If it's to affect my kids and > grand-kids, they will have to learn to deal with it as I had to. > Jan =========== I accept our different opinions. Thanks for the answering in a rational debate style. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Touchers Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:54:26 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066200389 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 2258 Lines: 55 > > > > What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm > > > > virtually every time she speaks to him. > > > > Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > > > > I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > > > > -- > > > > Gordon > > > > > > I think there are - some people do a lot of touching, some do none > at > > > all. People can change in that regard, to a certain extent at > least. I > > > used to be pretty touch-me-not, and then I got in with a couple of > > > groups who do a lot of strictly friendly hugging. I found I really > > > liked that. I still seldom initiate a hug, except with family and > close > > > friends, but I do enjoy being hugged. > > > > > > OTOH, it bothers me when people (men or women) stand too close when > > > they're talking to me. I feel as though my personal space is being > > > invaded. Some people seem to feel a need to stand very close to, > and/or > > > touch the person they are speaking to. In most cases, I think it's > just > > > an innate personality trait. > > > > > > Joy > > ========== > > My friends and I hugs each other as do my family and I. > > I do understand your need for personal space and feeling > > invaded when people stand too close. Having lived in the > > outback and then in country Queensland for years, I have > > quite a need for personal space as well. I move back and > > if the person moves forward, I say that I feel more comfortable > > at 'this distance' and explain why. Big city people tend to need > > less personal space than country people. It's always wise to > > be aware of people's personal space levels. > > Bobbie > > Yes, it is wise. Sadly, few people are so aware. In fact, it seems to > me that most people don't often realize that other people have different > needs from what they have. I've heard people say, "That wouldn't bother > me, so it shouldn't bother you." Another of my 'favorites' is "anybody > can afford that", which really means is, "Because of my income and > priorities, I can afford it." > > Joy =============== I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist so am fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, and I'm also intuitive, which is probably why I chose psychology. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <24OVlPAf+Ij$EwZB@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20031015010937.29165.00000635@mb-m06.aol.com> Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:54:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.229 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066200889 32.103.153.229 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:54:49 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:54:49 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 473 Lines: 25 "Marian" wrote in message news:20031015010937.29165.00000635@mb-m06.aol.com... > >>>Dirty Den is back! > >>>-- > >>>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 17:58:59 > >>>http://copelands.co.uk/val > >> > >>Didn't he die? > >> > >>a puzzled Marian > >> > >Didn't JR get shot? > >-- > >Gordon > > Who shot him? I've forgotten. > > Marian Wasn't it his wife? That was the only episode of the show I ever saw - the one where they revealed who shot him. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Touchers X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <0c6jb.179393$0v4.13776369@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:55:56 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.229 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066200956 32.103.153.229 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:55:56 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:55:56 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2616 Lines: 75 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > > > > > What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm > > > > > virtually every time she speaks to him. > > > > > Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > > > > > I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > > > > > -- > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > I think there are - some people do a lot of touching, some do none > > at > > > > all. People can change in that regard, to a certain extent at > > least. I > > > > used to be pretty touch-me-not, and then I got in with a couple of > > > > groups who do a lot of strictly friendly hugging. I found I really > > > > liked that. I still seldom initiate a hug, except with family and > > close > > > > friends, but I do enjoy being hugged. > > > > > > > > OTOH, it bothers me when people (men or women) stand too close when > > > > they're talking to me. I feel as though my personal space is being > > > > invaded. Some people seem to feel a need to stand very close to, > > and/or > > > > touch the person they are speaking to. In most cases, I think it's > > just > > > > an innate personality trait. > > > > > > > > Joy > > > ========== > > > My friends and I hugs each other as do my family and I. > > > I do understand your need for personal space and feeling > > > invaded when people stand too close. Having lived in the > > > outback and then in country Queensland for years, I have > > > quite a need for personal space as well. I move back and > > > if the person moves forward, I say that I feel more comfortable > > > at 'this distance' and explain why. Big city people tend to need > > > less personal space than country people. It's always wise to > > > be aware of people's personal space levels. > > > Bobbie > > > > Yes, it is wise. Sadly, few people are so aware. In fact, it seems to > > me that most people don't often realize that other people have different > > needs from what they have. I've heard people say, "That wouldn't bother > > me, so it shouldn't bother you." Another of my 'favorites' is "anybody > > can afford that", which really means is, "Because of my income and > > priorities, I can afford it." > > > > Joy > =============== > I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist so am > fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, and I'm also intuitive, > which is probably why I chose psychology. > > Bobbie I didn't realize you were a psychologist, but I'm not surprised. From what you've written here, I suspect you're a very good one. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8ca922$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031015004208.29165.00000626@mb-m06.aol.com> Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:59:32 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8cee76$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066200694 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1315 Lines: 37 > >> I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation > >> the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two > >> irreconcilable ideologies. > >> > >> One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is > >> conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) > >> and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its > >> day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. > >> Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness > >> to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. > >> > >> Paul > >============= > >I agree with you Paul and am both surprised and shocked by the rise > >in unilateral, nationalistic thinking and the focus on use of force to > >solve all problems. In reality, this use of force is causing more > >problems. > > > >REVENGE BEGETS ONLY REVENGE > >http://www.iht.com/articles/113475.html > > > >Bobbie > > Spiraling tragedy. Sharon with his penchant for military solutions certainly > finds boon companions in our Dubya-Cheney, doesn't he? But Sharon isn't only > about military solutions. He was the one who initiated the settler program, and > continues it to this day... Marian ============== You're right there....all the opinions you expressed. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031015002945.29165.00000623@mb-m06.aol.com> Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:00:41 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8ceebb$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066200764 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 920 Lines: 23 > [...] > >Any article I've seen posted here has > >been left-wing propaganda posted by Marian. If Marian had posted her > >own thoughts on the subjects that would have been different but she > >gives the impression of never having had an original thought pass > >through her head. I agree with you about debate, but I've seen > >precious little of it here. The general tone which I can determine is > >one of mud-slinging at the US and President Bush himself. One cannot > >debate a news-paper article either as the writer is not present to > >defend their stance. [...] > > When I post an article, the stance becomes mine own and I will defend it > against all comers. Why should I natter on with a personal, private opinion > when others say what I mean so much better? > > Marian ============= I thought I'd let you answer what I saw as a personal attack on you. You answered it very well. Good on you! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:12:28 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066201471 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1111 Lines: 32 I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it was the first three times I read it. Bobbie ******** US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while British are condemned as too soft US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of Baghdad. Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. For full article: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <0c6jb.179393$0v4.13776369@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Touchers Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:14:12 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8cf1e8$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066201576 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 2813 Lines: 79 > > > > > > What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's > arm > > > > > > virtually every time she speaks to him. > > > > > > Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > > > > > > I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > I think there are - some people do a lot of touching, some do > none > > > at > > > > > all. People can change in that regard, to a certain extent at > > > least. I > > > > > used to be pretty touch-me-not, and then I got in with a couple > of > > > > > groups who do a lot of strictly friendly hugging. I found I > really > > > > > liked that. I still seldom initiate a hug, except with family > and > > > close > > > > > friends, but I do enjoy being hugged. > > > > > > > > > > OTOH, it bothers me when people (men or women) stand too close > when > > > > > they're talking to me. I feel as though my personal space is > being > > > > > invaded. Some people seem to feel a need to stand very close > to, > > > and/or > > > > > touch the person they are speaking to. In most cases, I think > it's > > > just > > > > > an innate personality trait. > > > > > > > > > > Joy > > > > ========== > > > > My friends and I hugs each other as do my family and I. > > > > I do understand your need for personal space and feeling > > > > invaded when people stand too close. Having lived in the > > > > outback and then in country Queensland for years, I have > > > > quite a need for personal space as well. I move back and > > > > if the person moves forward, I say that I feel more comfortable > > > > at 'this distance' and explain why. Big city people tend to need > > > > less personal space than country people. It's always wise to > > > > be aware of people's personal space levels. > > > > Bobbie > > > > > > Yes, it is wise. Sadly, few people are so aware. In fact, it seems > to > > > me that most people don't often realize that other people have > different > > > needs from what they have. I've heard people say, "That wouldn't > bother > > > me, so it shouldn't bother you." Another of my 'favorites' is > "anybody > > > can afford that", which really means is, "Because of my income and > > > priorities, I can afford it." > > > > > > Joy > > =============== > > I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist so am > > fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, and I'm also intuitive, > > which is probably why I chose psychology. > > > > Bobbie > > I didn't realize you were a psychologist, but I'm not surprised. From > what you've written here, I suspect you're a very good one. > > Joy ============ Thank you! I don't want to put tickets on myself, but I feel I am a good one. Others have said the same so I guess I have to take their word for it, eh? Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:16:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8ca581$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031015010242.29165.00000632@mb-m06.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210550 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:35:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1533 Lines: 42 Marian wrote >[...] >>> >I could have a life of ease if I brought her here from her rented house >>> >and married her, and I know she would help to decorate and brighten up >>> >the place. She would lose her pension supplement and her housing >>> >benefit and I would pay over £200 more Council tax. I could put half >>> >my savings in her name and save a little income tax. >>> >She would get half my Company pension when I died. >>> > >>> >Sounds like a good deal for one of us... ;-) >>> >-- >>> >Gordon >>> >>> Wow. Talk about a "marriage penalty"! Jesus or Dubya's gonna git y'all for >>> that, you heathen Brits... Marian >>============= >>Wouldn't he just......Dubya that is. My son's been living with his partner >>for 11 years now. It's accepted here. >>Bobbie > >Here as well. All my four lived with their partners for several years before >marrying. > >Marian Two out of my three did. Results show that it didn't make a difference. Son went to Oz with partner, then broke up and married another Aussi girl. Daughter lived with partner two years, got married for another two years then he got them deep in debt and she came back home, eventually finding Mr Right. Daughter courted from age 16 or 17, married him when he qualified as doctor. Divorced him when he had affair with nurse! Lived with second partner for some years, split amicably. Status now SARAH. (Single And Rich And Happy). Well, not very rich, perhaps, but she has her own house.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:17:46 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8c6f40$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031014190006.06857.00000675@mb-m20.aol.com> <3f8ca5c1$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210551 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:35:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1206 Lines: 38 Barbara Christian wrote > > >> >> >> You iron? Okay, there's one thing we don't have in common. I don't >> >> >> even own an iron. >> >> >> >> >> >You have heard me say this before, but when my daughter was in >> >> >kindergarten, she asked the teacher what an iron was.... >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >Jean B. >> >> >> >> LOL! I hadn't heard you say this before, Jean.I haven't touched an iron >in >> >> decades. Marian >> >=============== >> >Doesn't it get humid where you live? If you don't iron, you must wear >> >synthetics, like I do in winter. I don't like ironing which is why I have >> >this special system of hanging clothes on the hoist, so they come out >> >looking almost ironed and only need a minor touch up before I put >> >them on. As I said, I get a heat rash if I wear a synthetic when it's >> >hot and humid. >> >Bobbie >> >> Yes, it's very humid here in the summer [6 months at least], and no, I >don't >> wear synthetics. Ever. If the wrinkles don't fall out, I wear them >innaway. >> >> mussed Marian >=========== >Good thinking..... >mussed Bobbie > It must be too dry here, my wrinkles get worse the longer I wear 'em. 8-( -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:19:40 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8c8c1d.3585255@news.individual.net> <20031015005438.29165.00000630@mb-m06.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210552 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:35:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 484 Lines: 22 Marian wrote >>>>Eee! and they reckon they 'ad it tough in Yorkshire..... >>>> >>>>jingles (that should draw somebody out) >>>>> >>>Oh no! Not the dreaded Monty Python "We lived in a shoe-box" thread. >>>8-) >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>Certainly not....we wore that out with Lanky, and Lyndon.... >> >>jingles > >Where are they, by the way? > >Marian > I wondered about lanky - one or two topics have cropped up which he would have had good input..... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <0c6jb.179393$0v4.13776369@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f8cf1e8$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Touchers X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:22:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.76 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066202535 32.103.153.76 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:22:15 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 07:22:15 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 3099 Lines: 102 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8cf1e8$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > > > > > > > What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's > > arm > > > > > > > virtually every time she speaks to him. > > > > > > > Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > > > > > > > I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > I think there are - some people do a lot of touching, some do > > none > > > > at > > > > > > all. People can change in that regard, to a certain extent at > > > > least. I > > > > > > used to be pretty touch-me-not, and then I got in with a couple > > of > > > > > > groups who do a lot of strictly friendly hugging. I found I > > really > > > > > > liked that. I still seldom initiate a hug, except with family > > and > > > > close > > > > > > friends, but I do enjoy being hugged. > > > > > > > > > > > > OTOH, it bothers me when people (men or women) stand too close > > when > > > > > > they're talking to me. I feel as though my personal space is > > being > > > > > > invaded. Some people seem to feel a need to stand very close > > to, > > > > and/or > > > > > > touch the person they are speaking to. In most cases, I think > > it's > > > > just > > > > > > an innate personality trait. > > > > > > > > > > > > Joy > > > > > ========== > > > > > My friends and I hugs each other as do my family and I. > > > > > I do understand your need for personal space and feeling > > > > > invaded when people stand too close. Having lived in the > > > > > outback and then in country Queensland for years, I have > > > > > quite a need for personal space as well. I move back and > > > > > if the person moves forward, I say that I feel more comfortable > > > > > at 'this distance' and explain why. Big city people tend to need > > > > > less personal space than country people. It's always wise to > > > > > be aware of people's personal space levels. > > > > > Bobbie > > > > > > > > Yes, it is wise. Sadly, few people are so aware. In fact, it seems > > to > > > > me that most people don't often realize that other people have > > different > > > > needs from what they have. I've heard people say, "That wouldn't > > bother > > > > me, so it shouldn't bother you." Another of my 'favorites' is > > "anybody > > > > can afford that", which really means is, "Because of my income and > > > > priorities, I can afford it." > > > > > > > > Joy > > > =============== > > > I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist so am > > > fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, and I'm also intuitive, > > > which is probably why I chose psychology. > > > > > > Bobbie > > > > I didn't realize you were a psychologist, but I'm not surprised. From > > what you've written here, I suspect you're a very good one. > > > > Joy > ============ > Thank you! I don't want to put tickets on myself, but I feel I am a > good one. Others have said the same so I guess I have to take > their word for it, eh? > > Bobbie Of course! Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:06 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:32:19 +0100 Message-ID: <7$ZmUCBDgPj$Ewo9@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210554 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:35:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1663 Lines: 36 Yoj wrote >"Gordon" wrote >> >> What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm >> virtually every time she speaks to him. >> Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? >> I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) >> >I think there are - some people do a lot of touching, some do none at >all. People can change in that regard, to a certain extent at least. I >used to be pretty touch-me-not, and then I got in with a couple of >groups who do a lot of strictly friendly hugging. I found I really >liked that. I still seldom initiate a hug, except with family and close >friends, but I do enjoy being hugged. > I only hug female friends and relatives, after two situations arose. I hugged my 6ft son when he returned home after 12 months in Oz, and he clearly wasn't comfortable with it. A lifetime friend contracted Motor Neurone Disease a few years back, and while he was in hospital for final diagnosis tests I held onto his hand and squeezed it when shaking hands with him. He was also clearly uncomfortable with that, so I don't do hugs with males any more! >OTOH, it bothers me when people (men or women) stand too close when >they're talking to me. I feel as though my personal space is being >invaded. Some people seem to feel a need to stand very close to, and/or >touch the person they are speaking to. In most cases, I think it's just >an innate personality trait. > >Joy I tend to avoid standing too close to people. I can find it a pleasant experience for a woman to stand close to me, but I think a conversation is best held at least at arms length. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:37:40 +0100 Message-ID: <9P4nIOBElPj$EwKY@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ca479$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210556 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:35:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 833 Lines: 23 Barbara Christian wrote > >> What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm >> virtually every time she speaks to him. >> Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? >> I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) >> -- >> Gordon >======== >I tend to be a platonic toucher, when I know the person, but am >cautious with those I don't know as many people don't feel >comfortable being touched. I tend to be more touchy-feely >with women than men, because with women friends it's >non-sexual, with men......well....... >Bobbie > Yes! With men, at least with this one, there is a tiny electric current sent from the point of contact to my pleasure centre. When a man touches me, unless a very close friend or relative, the current goes to a defence control centre. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:42:34 +0100 Message-ID: <0vjlwYBqpPj$EwJo@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <20031015010354.29165.00000633@mb-m06.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210558 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:35:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 630 Lines: 30 Marian wrote >>>>>Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? >>>> >>>>Have a silver star in your exercise book, go top of the class, and stay >>>>behind and see me after lessons. There could be a gold star in it for >>>>you............ >>>>-- >>>>Gordon >>> >>>Cool. Er...what did you have in mind? >>> >>>Marian >> >>Your expecting? That was quick! >> >>How about French lessons? >>-- >>Gordon > >How do you say, "knocked up" in French? > >Marian > LOL! I have no idea, it has never arisen with a French woman. I could re-phrase that, I suppose.... Frappé en haute? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:44:48 +0100 Message-ID: <5P1mYlBwrPj$EwK3@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f8ca2b8$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031015010702.29165.00000634@mb-m06.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210559 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:35:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:35:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 617 Lines: 19 Marian wrote >>> I owe so much to my children. Without them I would know nothing cool; be >>never >>> cool... Marian >>============ >>Many words in the English language are French. We use more French words >>here than they do in the US. Example....we use serviettes. Napkins have two >>different connotations...either nappies...or...... >>Bobbie > >Well, that's understandable isn't it? You're waay closer to England culturally >than we are here. And they use those terms, don't they? > Corsage, garage, espionage... > >Marian > Fromage, Frottage... Ooops! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:47:06 +0100 Message-ID: <6vHmwxB6tPj$EwJu@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <9990-3F8C72F1-256@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8ca1c4$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210560 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:36:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:36:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1380 Lines: 31 Barbara Christian wrote > > >Gordon wrote: "wears her hair long enough to fall on her shoulders, >even when waved, which she does herself with heated rollers. It >seemed such a chore when she washed and curled it that I persuaded her >to go to a hairdresser and have it shortened. Big mistake. It was >just before we went on our first and only holiday together, and she >spent the whole fortnight moaning about the fact that because I had >talked her into shortening it, she could not 'take it up' on top >properly. She is too 'appearance orientated'.... >When I suggested it I was thinking of a much shorter length that would >be less work and quickly dressed up by the hotel hairdresser for special >evenings. 8-( >--" >****************************************** >That's a No-No Gordon; don't try to get a woman to change her hair >because she'll hate it no matter what and blame it on you! 8-) >Jeanette >======= >True. I had my hair cut yesterday, so my head feels a lot lighter >and my fringe is no longer in my eyes. It's given me a lift. I always >go on a Tues as that's the day the haircuts are cheaper...$13. >Now I have to colour it again. >Bobbie > That's cheap! Even mine cost me £3 as a pensioner, but I usually give him £4 because he does a good job and takes plenty off. I wonder if it's warm enough to risk it today...... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:48:45 +0100 Message-ID: <7fems$BdvPj$EwKw@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3f8c75e4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <601jb.178827$0v4.13741379@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210562 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:36:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:36:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1020 Lines: 35 Yoj wrote >"Barbara Christian" wrote in message >news:3f8c75e4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >> > >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Bobbie >> > >> > >> > >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they >> > >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Jean B. >> > >> ====== >> > >> So do I. >> > >> Bobbie >> > > >> > >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out >> > >looking at shirts. Ugh. >> > > >> > I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... >> > I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. >> > -- >> > Gordon >> ========== >> That's pretty dear, isn't it? >> Bobbie > >It sounds so to me. I didn't even know men's shirts ever brought that >high a price. > >Joy > It is fairly trendy shop, and I didn't stay in there long because I felt I was making the place look uncool...... ;-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:51:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <6oMWBvBWqIj$EwZQ@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20031015004625.29165.00000627@mb-m06.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210571 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:36:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:36:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 353 Lines: 17 Marian wrote >>Marian wrote >>>>> >>>Sinclair has left for Oz. >> >>I've not read anything from Sea today, has she gone with him? >>He's a sly dog...... >>-- >>Gordon > >Trust you to put a chuckle into this thread, Gordon... > >Marian > I was staying on topic - I am fed up with the bickering. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:52:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4l8povc0bf9okdrc6ikmbtgcnv8a83slsj@4ax.com> <20031015004839.29165.00000628@mb-m06.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210573 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:36:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:36:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 548 Lines: 21 Marian wrote >>>Sinclair has left for Oz. On Thursday I leave for France for a month. Should >>be >>>a respite in 'bickering' threads for a time... >>>Y'all will have to find your *own* articles. >>> >>>Marian > >>Have a great time in France, Marian, and enjoy those lovely baguettes >>and pastry that no one here can imitate. >> >>Paul > >Thank you, Paul! I intend to, but will probably be here until Thursday noonish >when I have to present myself at the airport. > >Marian > Flip-charts or audio-visual? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:00:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: <24OVlPAf+Ij$EwZB@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20031015010937.29165.00000635@mb-m06.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066210576 16042 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 09:36:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:36:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 301 Lines: 21 Marian wrote >>>>Dirty Den is back! >>>>-- >>>>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 17:58:59 >>>>http://copelands.co.uk/val >>> >>>Didn't he die? >>> >>>a puzzled Marian >>> >>Didn't JR get shot? >>-- >>Gordon > >Who shot him? I've forgotten. > >Marian > Was it Bobbie? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:03:25 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1qb3jp0r133n5$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.93.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066208689 24307272 217.137.93.80 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (1200457f.18.264) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 1440 Lines: 34 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:12:28 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: > I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it > was the first three times I read it. > Bobbie > ******** > US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops > Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while > British are condemned as too soft > US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have > uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in > central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who > do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of > palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the > bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of > Baghdad. > Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, > that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not > informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim > district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. > For full article: > http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 I haven't heard anything here on the news about that story, but if it is true then it is despictable. What a way to make friends and influence people :( -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 10:01:47 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:08:18 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1cpr33izib5gk$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.93.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066208981 24844473 217.137.93.80 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (6cfe05ec.20.496) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 502 Lines: 13 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:40:57 +0100, Gordon scrawled: > Well, they aren't in the North! I have a definite > Lancashire/Manchester accent. I only went to Cornwall once on a > Plymouth coach holiday, when we had a day excursion to Looe. Our > driver for the five days had a broad Cornish accent, and we called at a > place where we were given a welcome in Cornish language by a lady. > -- Pleased to hear it Gordon :) -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 10:08:03 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:13:59 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.93.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066209322 23891815 217.137.93.80 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (30758e55.255.283) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 668 Lines: 16 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:10 -0400, Jan scrawled: > Which part of North Devon Val? I spent several years working out of > Barnstaple, with North Devon as my territory before I emigrated. Used > to cover from Porlock down past Clovelly and Hartland Point then a > sweep inland. Just outside of Witheridge near Rackenford. In the 1990's we also had a farm in Witheridge on the Drayford Road - Coombe House, do you know of it? We had 65 acres of our own but had to rent grass keep from time to time when our sheep flock grew in numbers. I know Barnstaple well. What was your job there? -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 10:09:32 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:22:33 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8c746c$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1iehx9lfeenhu.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8ca3a1$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.93.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066209837 24146971 217.137.93.80 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (4ef5c5a3.3.495) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 1739 Lines: 44 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:40:18 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: > "Joy (I think) wrote: "I wear lipstick all the time, but I don't own >>>> any >>>>> other makeup." >>>>> *************************************** >>>>> I have other makeup but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had >>>>> extremely dry skin, but the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup >>>> looks >>>>> splotchy after it's been on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the >>>>> mood strikes me! I do use moisturizers religiously. Jeanette >>>> >>>> I did try wearing foundation for a while, but I found that the area > over >>>> my upper lip always looked as though I hadn't put any makeup on that >>>> spot. It looked weird, so I decided to save the cost and trouble of >>>> using the foundation. >>>> >>>> Joy >>> ========= >>> I must check that out next time I put some foundation on. I use such >>> a teeny amount when I do use it that I'm not even sure it shows. I've >>> had the same small jar of foundation for 4 years so I obviously >>> don't wear much...or very often. >> >>> Bobbie >> >> Using foundation should help protect your skin from the elements. We live >> by the sea and it can get rather windy at times so I wear foundation which >> helps to prevent little thread veins which can appear on fine skin like >> mine. I also stay outt of the fierce sun as much as possible >> -- >> val > ============ > I usually use a moisturiser made for Aussie conditions....wind, sun, > etc. Your fine English skin probably would not cope well in > Aussie weather conditions. > Bobbie Probably not, but I'd find a way to deal with it if I ever visited your neck of the woods :) -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 10:22:01 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:07 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:24:00 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ca0d8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.93.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066209923 24206732 217.137.93.80 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (4cbe712f.126.433) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 653 Lines: 21 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:28:29 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: >>> I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the >>> real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. >>> Bobbie >> >> Fish and chips is never served in newspaper these days Bobbie - white > paper >> the same as your :) >> -- >> val > ========= > Better than having news print all over the chips, eh? > I put vinegar on my chips. What do you do? > Bobbie Apart from a little salt, nothing! I'm trying to give up salt too, not easy but gradually getting used to it. -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 10:23:23 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:29:45 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1tyczbsgm690u$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014191018.06857.00000677@mb-m20.aol.com> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.93.80 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066210269 24262534 217.137.93.80 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (2fcdd914.11.487) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 816 Lines: 16 On 14 Oct 2003 23:10:18 GMT, Marian scrawled: > Since I stay at my daughter's and take most meals at her house, I don't know > this from personal experience but I've read, heard from several quarters that > Paris is a *lot* cheaper than London. Marian Eating out in London is horrendously expensive :( I guess my view on Paris is tinged with memories of the working times I spent there. Not a city lover at all Marion, love open spaces and natural surroundings. I'm not keen on Rome or Milan either - too busy, too self-conscious, too stressful. Now Venice I love! But if you are staying with your daughter in Paris you should feel more relaxed that staying in some posh starchy hotel. As you may have guessed, I hate hotels LOL -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 10:24:52 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Touchers Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:51:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066230569 15698 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 15:09:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:09:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 374 Lines: 23 Barbara Christian wrote > >I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist Ooooh-er! > so am >fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, Oooooooh-errrrr! > and I'm also intuitive, AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH! >which is probably why I chose psychology. > >Bobbie > You don't practice it in here, I hope? -- Gordon (Paranoid) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:54:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ca0d8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066230571 15698 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 15:09:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:09:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 861 Lines: 26 Aries wrote >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:28:29 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: > >>>> I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the >>>> real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. >>>> Bobbie >>> >>> Fish and chips is never served in newspaper these days Bobbie - white >> paper >>> the same as your :) >>> -- >>> val >> ========= >> Better than having news print all over the chips, eh? >> I put vinegar on my chips. What do you do? >> Bobbie > >Apart from a little salt, nothing! I'm trying to give up salt too, not easy >but gradually getting used to it. I have found that if add no salt for a short while you find out just how much occurs naturally in food, but I do love salt, so I have to restrain myself. (You will all have noticed my capacity for self-restraint). :) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:56:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066230572 15698 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 15:09:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:09:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1340 Lines: 34 Barbara Christian wrote > >I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it >was the first three times I read it. > >Bobbie > >******** >US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops >Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while >British are condemned as too soft > >US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have >uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in >central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who >do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of >palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the >bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of >Baghdad. > >Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, >that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not >informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim >district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. > >For full article: >http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 > I was sceptical when this was first posted here, but..... Reminiscent of the Third Reich's way of dealing with French resistance in WW2. :-( -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1qb3jp0r133n5$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:22:02 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d3a15$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066220053 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1507 Lines: 46 > > I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it > > was the first three times I read it. > > > Bobbie > > > ******** > > US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops > > Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while > > British are condemned as too soft > > > US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have > > uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in > > central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who > > do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of > > palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the > > bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of > > Baghdad. > > > Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, > > that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not > > informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim > > district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. > > > For full article: > > http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 > > I haven't heard anything here on the news about that story, but if it is > true then it is despictable. What a way to make friends and influence > people :( > -- > val ======== It is true. It was on BBC news radio the other day, and was on BBC TV yesterday. Total destruction of all the trees. Awful! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8c6f40$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031014190006.06857.00000675@mb-m20.aol.com> <3f8ca5c1$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:24:14 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d3a99$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066220185 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1335 Lines: 46 "> >> >> >> You iron? Okay, there's one thing we don't have in common. I don't > >> >> >> even own an iron. > >> >> >> > >> >> >You have heard me say this before, but when my daughter was in > >> >> >kindergarten, she asked the teacher what an iron was.... > >> >> > > >> >> >-- > >> >> >Jean B. > >> >> > >> >> LOL! I hadn't heard you say this before, Jean.I haven't touched an iron > >in > >> >> decades. Marian > >> >=============== > >> >Doesn't it get humid where you live? If you don't iron, you must wear > >> >synthetics, like I do in winter. I don't like ironing which is why I have > >> >this special system of hanging clothes on the hoist, so they come out > >> >looking almost ironed and only need a minor touch up before I put > >> >them on. As I said, I get a heat rash if I wear a synthetic when it's > >> >hot and humid. > >> >Bobbie > >> > >> Yes, it's very humid here in the summer [6 months at least], and no, I > >don't > >> wear synthetics. Ever. If the wrinkles don't fall out, I wear them > >innaway. > >> > >> mussed Marian > >=========== > >Good thinking..... > >mussed Bobbie > > > It must be too dry here, my wrinkles get worse the longer I wear 'em. > 8-( > -- > Gordon ========== One of two benefits of humidity. The other is that my skin isn't dry and flaky in summer. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8c8c1d.3585255@news.individual.net> <20031015005438.29165.00000630@mb-m06.aol.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:24:56 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d3ac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066220227 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 574 Lines: 27 > >>>>Eee! and they reckon they 'ad it tough in Yorkshire..... > >>>> > >>>>jingles (that should draw somebody out) > >>>>> > >>>Oh no! Not the dreaded Monty Python "We lived in a shoe-box" thread. > >>>8-) > >>>-- > >>>Gordon > >> > >>Certainly not....we wore that out with Lanky, and Lyndon.... > >> > >>jingles > > > >Where are they, by the way? > > > >Marian > > > I wondered about lanky - one or two topics have cropped up which he > would have had good input..... > -- > Gordon ======== He's probably out touring the country before winter sets in. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7$ZmUCBDgPj$Ewo9@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:26:12 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d3b0f$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066220304 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1898 Lines: 44 "Gordon" wrote in message news:7$ZmUCBDgPj$Ewo9@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > >"Gordon" wrote > >> > >> What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm > >> virtually every time she speaks to him. > >> Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > >> I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > >> > >I think there are - some people do a lot of touching, some do none at > >all. People can change in that regard, to a certain extent at least. I > >used to be pretty touch-me-not, and then I got in with a couple of > >groups who do a lot of strictly friendly hugging. I found I really > >liked that. I still seldom initiate a hug, except with family and close > >friends, but I do enjoy being hugged. > > > I only hug female friends and relatives, after two situations arose. > I hugged my 6ft son when he returned home after 12 months in Oz, and he > clearly wasn't comfortable with it. > A lifetime friend contracted Motor Neurone Disease a few years back, and > while he was in hospital for final diagnosis tests I held onto his hand > and squeezed it when shaking hands with him. He was also clearly > uncomfortable with that, so I don't do hugs with males any more! > > >OTOH, it bothers me when people (men or women) stand too close when > >they're talking to me. I feel as though my personal space is being > >invaded. Some people seem to feel a need to stand very close to, and/or > >touch the person they are speaking to. In most cases, I think it's just > >an innate personality trait. > > > >Joy > > I tend to avoid standing too close to people. I can find it a pleasant > experience for a woman to stand close to me, but I think a conversation > is best held at least at arms length. > -- > Gordon ======= You could be right there. Mavis wouldn't like it. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ca479$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <9P4nIOBElPj$EwKY@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:26:47 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d3b32$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066220338 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 860 Lines: 27 "> >> What makes people touchers? Why does a woman touch a man's arm > >> virtually every time she speaks to him. > >> Are there men who are habitual (non-sexual) touchers? > >> I wouldn't know that, of course. ;-) > >> -- > >> Gordon > >======== > >I tend to be a platonic toucher, when I know the person, but am > >cautious with those I don't know as many people don't feel > >comfortable being touched. I tend to be more touchy-feely > >with women than men, because with women friends it's > >non-sexual, with men......well....... > >Bobbie > > > Yes! With men, at least with this one, there is a tiny electric > current sent from the point of contact to my pleasure centre. > > When a man touches me, unless a very close friend or relative, the > current goes to a defence control centre. :-) > -- > Gordon ======== I can imagine. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1nsqnmng1rwx6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <13988-3F8C016F-224@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8c746c$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1iehx9lfeenhu.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8ca3a1$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:27:46 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d3b6d$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066220397 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1757 Lines: 52 > > "Joy (I think) wrote: "I wear lipstick all the time, but I don't own > >>>> any > >>>>> other makeup." > >>>>> *************************************** > >>>>> I have other makeup but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had > >>>>> extremely dry skin, but the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup > >>>> looks > >>>>> splotchy after it's been on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the > >>>>> mood strikes me! I do use moisturizers religiously. Jeanette > >>>> > >>>> I did try wearing foundation for a while, but I found that the area > > over > >>>> my upper lip always looked as though I hadn't put any makeup on that > >>>> spot. It looked weird, so I decided to save the cost and trouble of > >>>> using the foundation. > >>>> > >>>> Joy > >>> ========= > >>> I must check that out next time I put some foundation on. I use such > >>> a teeny amount when I do use it that I'm not even sure it shows. I've > >>> had the same small jar of foundation for 4 years so I obviously > >>> don't wear much...or very often. > >> > >>> Bobbie > >> > >> Using foundation should help protect your skin from the elements. We live > >> by the sea and it can get rather windy at times so I wear foundation which > >> helps to prevent little thread veins which can appear on fine skin like > >> mine. I also stay outt of the fierce sun as much as possible > >> -- > >> val > > ============ > > I usually use a moisturiser made for Aussie conditions....wind, sun, > > etc. Your fine English skin probably would not cope well in > > Aussie weather conditions. > > Bobbie > > Probably not, but I'd find a way to deal with it if I ever visited your neck > of the woods :) > -- > val ============ Lots and lots of lotion, reapplied regularly. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <9990-3F8C72F1-256@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8ca1c4$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <6vHmwxB6tPj$EwJu@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:30:00 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d3bf4$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066220532 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1548 Lines: 36 > >Gordon wrote: "wears her hair long enough to fall on her shoulders, > >even when waved, which she does herself with heated rollers. It > >seemed such a chore when she washed and curled it that I persuaded her > >to go to a hairdresser and have it shortened. Big mistake. It was > >just before we went on our first and only holiday together, and she > >spent the whole fortnight moaning about the fact that because I had > >talked her into shortening it, she could not 'take it up' on top > >properly. She is too 'appearance orientated'.... > >When I suggested it I was thinking of a much shorter length that would > >be less work and quickly dressed up by the hotel hairdresser for special > >evenings. 8-( > >--" > >****************************************** > >That's a No-No Gordon; don't try to get a woman to change her hair > >because she'll hate it no matter what and blame it on you! 8-) > >Jeanette > >======= > >True. I had my hair cut yesterday, so my head feels a lot lighter > >and my fringe is no longer in my eyes. It's given me a lift. I always > >go on a Tues as that's the day the haircuts are cheaper...$13. > >Now I have to colour it again. > >Bobbie > > > That's cheap! Even mine cost me £3 as a pensioner, but I usually give > him £4 because he does a good job and takes plenty off. > I wonder if it's warm enough to risk it today...... > -- > Gordon ========= I prefer to go the the regular salon and get a proper cut and style for $13 than go to the places which offer pensioner rates...and just cut. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3f8c75e4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <601jb.178827$0v4.13741379@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <7fems$BdvPj$EwKw@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:30:42 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d3c1d$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066220573 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 970 Lines: 37 > >> > >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Bobbie > >> > >> > > >> > >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they > >> > >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. > >> > >> > -- > >> > >> > Jean B. > >> > >> ====== > >> > >> So do I. > >> > >> Bobbie > >> > > > >> > >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out > >> > >looking at shirts. Ugh. > >> > > > >> > I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... > >> > I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. > >> > -- > >> > Gordon > >> ========== > >> That's pretty dear, isn't it? > >> Bobbie > > > >It sounds so to me. I didn't even know men's shirts ever brought that > >high a price. > > > >Joy > > > It is fairly trendy shop, and I didn't stay in there long because I > felt I was making the place look uncool...... ;-) > -- > Gordon ========= Oh, diddums! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ca0d8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:32:38 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d3c91$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066220689 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 766 Lines: 27 > >>> I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the > >>> real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. > >>> Bobbie > >> > >> Fish and chips is never served in newspaper these days Bobbie - white > > paper > >> the same as your :) > >> -- > >> val > > ========= > > Better than having news print all over the chips, eh? > > I put vinegar on my chips. What do you do? > > Bobbie > > Apart from a little salt, nothing! I'm trying to give up salt too, not easy > but gradually getting used to it. > -- > val ======== I rarely use salt but do enjoy a bit of it on my chips. Once a month isn't going to hurt me, especially since my BP is 120/70. I actually do use a bit of salt in summer to replace lost salts. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:08 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014191018.06857.00000677@mb-m20.aol.com> <1tyczbsgm690u$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:49:06 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d406f$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066221679 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1427 Lines: 37 > > Since I stay at my daughter's and take most meals at her house, I don't know > > this from personal experience but I've read, heard from several quarters that > > Paris is a *lot* cheaper than London. Marian > > Eating out in London is horrendously expensive :( I guess my view on Paris > is tinged with memories of the working times I spent there. Not a city > lover at all Marion, love open spaces and natural surroundings. I'm not > keen on Rome or Milan either - too busy, too self-conscious, too stressful. > Now Venice I love! But if you are staying with your daughter in Paris you > should feel more relaxed that staying in some posh starchy hotel. As you > may have guessed, I hate hotels LOL > -- > val ========= I'm like you....I love open spaces and natural surroundings. Having said that, I do enjoy going to Southbank, but essentially, that's open spaces and natural surroundings, even though it's just across the river from the CBD. Looking across the parklands from one of my favourite restaurants. The ramp is for the City Cat. The cement along the river is the cycle/pedestrian track. The long low building is the Art Gallery and the Entertainment Centre. The higher one is the State Library. The building in front of the long low building is the State Museum. http://skyscrapers.com/re/en/im/df/112468/ More pictures of Southbank: http://community.webshots.com/album/35056421sNXULX Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <24OVlPAf+Ij$EwZB@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20031015010937.29165.00000635@mb-m06.aol.com> Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:50:33 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d40c5$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066221765 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 472 Lines: 29 "Gordon" wrote in message news:yPJkYOAA6Pj$EwqB@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Marian wrote > >>>>Dirty Den is back! > >>>>-- > >>>>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 17:58:59 > >>>>http://copelands.co.uk/val > >>> > >>>Didn't he die? > >>> > >>>a puzzled Marian > >>> > >>Didn't JR get shot? > >>-- > >>Gordon > > > >Who shot him? I've forgotten. > > > >Marian > > > Was it Bobbie? > -- > Gordon ========= Har! Har! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:07:46 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1qnqzvklpo9sv$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ca0d8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8d3c91$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066223351 24439460 217.137.94.5 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (fcdb32ba.226.301) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 938 Lines: 31 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:32:38 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: >>>>> I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the >>>>> real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. >>>>> Bobbie >>>> >>>> Fish and chips is never served in newspaper these days Bobbie - white >>> paper >>>> the same as your :) >>>> -- >>>> val >>> ========= >>> Better than having news print all over the chips, eh? >>> I put vinegar on my chips. What do you do? >>> Bobbie >> >> Apart from a little salt, nothing! I'm trying to give up salt too, not > easy >> but gradually getting used to it. >> -- >> val > ======== > I rarely use salt but do enjoy a bit of it on my chips. Once a month > isn't going to hurt me, especially since my BP is 120/70. I actually > do use a bit of salt in summer to replace lost salts. > Bobbie excellent BP :) -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 14:07:35 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:15:38 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1rp79u4q0hxoi$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014191018.06857.00000677@mb-m20.aol.com> <1tyczbsgm690u$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8d406f$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.94.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066223823 24439460 217.137.94.5 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (54474178.167.331) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 1814 Lines: 44 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:49:06 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: >>> Since I stay at my daughter's and take most meals at her house, I don't > know >>> this from personal experience but I've read, heard from several quarters > that >>> Paris is a *lot* cheaper than London. Marian >> >> Eating out in London is horrendously expensive :( I guess my view on > Paris >> is tinged with memories of the working times I spent there. Not a city >> lover at all Marion, love open spaces and natural surroundings. I'm not >> keen on Rome or Milan either - too busy, too self-conscious, too > stressful. >> Now Venice I love! But if you are staying with your daughter in Paris you >> should feel more relaxed that staying in some posh starchy hotel. As you >> may have guessed, I hate hotels LOL >> -- >> val > ========= > I'm like you....I love open spaces and natural surroundings. Having > said that, I do enjoy going to Southbank, but essentially, that's > open spaces and natural surroundings, even though it's just > across the river from the CBD. > Looking across the parklands from one of my favourite restaurants. > The ramp is for the City Cat. The cement along the river is the > cycle/pedestrian track. The long low building is the Art Gallery > and the Entertainment Centre. The higher one is the State Library. > The building in front of the long low building is the State Museum. > http://skyscrapers.com/re/en/im/df/112468/ > More pictures of Southbank: > http://community.webshots.com/album/35056421sNXULX > Bobbie Looks very clean and pretty - very much holiday atmosphere. What is the mountain in the background - it looks like a mountain but maybe a large hill? Thanks for the links I found them interesting :) -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 14:13:27 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:13:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <24OVlPAf+Ij$EwZB@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20031015010937.29165.00000635@mb-m06.aol.com> <3f8d40c5$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066237720 14556 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 17:08:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:08:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 621 Lines: 32 Barbara Christian wrote > >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:yPJkYOAA6Pj$EwqB@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> Marian wrote >> >>>>Dirty Den is back! >> >>>>-- >> >>>>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 17:58:59 >> >>>>http://copelands.co.uk/val >> >>> >> >>>Didn't he die? >> >>> >> >>>a puzzled Marian >> >>> >> >>Didn't JR get shot? >> >>-- >> >>Gordon >> > >> >Who shot him? I've forgotten. >> > >> >Marian >> > >> Was it Bobbie? >> -- >> Gordon >========= >Har! Har! >Bobbie > Honest! I din mean...... There was a Bobbie, wasn't there? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:17:14 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8c6f40$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031014190006.06857.00000675@mb-m20.aol.com> <3f8ca5c1$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8d3a99$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066237721 14556 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 17:08:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:08:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 400 Lines: 17 Barbara Christian wrote > >> It must be too dry here, my wrinkles get worse the longer I wear 'em. >> 8-( >> -- >> Gordon >========== >One of two benefits of humidity. The other is that my skin isn't >dry and flaky in summer. > >Bobbie > Clammy? It feels warmer in a humid atmosphere, and that is why 80° in Spain is comfortable and 80° in England it is sweaty. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Message-ID: References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:21:56 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.113.117 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066231317 64.231.113.117 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:21:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:21:57 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1394 Lines: 33 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:13:59 +0100, Aries wrote: >On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:10 -0400, Jan scrawled: > >> Which part of North Devon Val? I spent several years working out of >> Barnstaple, with North Devon as my territory before I emigrated. Used >> to cover from Porlock down past Clovelly and Hartland Point then a >> sweep inland. > >Just outside of Witheridge near Rackenford. In the 1990's we also had a >farm in Witheridge on the Drayford Road - Coombe House, do you know of it? >We had 65 acres of our own but had to rent grass keep from time to time when >our sheep flock grew in numbers. > >I know Barnstaple well. What was your job there? I can't place it right now Val. Is it up on Exmoor or more to the south. South Molton way. Do you know I'm having the greatest difficulty trying to remember the names from around there, quite embarrassing. Coombe House, the closest I can think of, and I'm not sure if I've got the spelling right is Coombe Martin, or was that Combe Martin. Lynton, Lynmouth, Oare of Lorna Doone fame. Not to worry, I guess after 40+ years I'm entitled to forget some things. I was the GPO telecom sales rep. for N.Devon, talk about a big fish in a very small pond. Anything to do with phones from those beautiful red boxes to home service was my responsibility. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:24:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7$ZmUCBDgPj$Ewo9@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8d3b0f$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066237723 14556 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 17:08:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:08:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 707 Lines: 21 Barbara Christian wrote > >"Gordon" wrote> >> I tend to avoid standing too close to people. I can find it a pleasant >> experience for a woman to stand close to me, but I think a conversation >> is best held at least at arms length. >> -- >> Gordon >======= >You could be right there. Mavis wouldn't like it. >Bobbie > You're giving me a lotta laughs.... Arm's length isn't enough, she can hurl an axe further than that. I did something soppy today, after we'd been for a walk in a wooded area I bought us fish and chips (No, not that!) and after she got home I rang her and told her I felt lonely when she had gone. She larfed.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:26:57 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <29287-3F8D6741-26@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRgI19YUK2J2eif5693O9iOGB5ebAIVAK26kfJsY2/NECDsk27zmeraewPs Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 509 Lines: 9 Gordon wrote: "I saw some great men's shirts today. =A0 =A350, but real dressy.... I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday." *************************************** Laughing because I did the same thing with my husband. I loved to read and would give him lists of books to choose from and would get a stupid pot or something. I told him finally that if he brought me any more gifts to be used in the kitchen, I would either give them away or return them. He did much better after that! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:27:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: <9990-3F8C72F1-256@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8ca1c4$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <6vHmwxB6tPj$EwJu@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8d3bf4$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066237724 14556 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 17:08:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:08:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1740 Lines: 40 Barbara Christian wrote > >> >Gordon wrote: "wears her hair long enough to fall on her shoulders, >> >even when waved, which she does herself with heated rollers. It >> >seemed such a chore when she washed and curled it that I persuaded her >> >to go to a hairdresser and have it shortened. Big mistake. It was >> >just before we went on our first and only holiday together, and she >> >spent the whole fortnight moaning about the fact that because I had >> >talked her into shortening it, she could not 'take it up' on top >> >properly. She is too 'appearance orientated'.... >> >When I suggested it I was thinking of a much shorter length that would >> >be less work and quickly dressed up by the hotel hairdresser for special >> >evenings. 8-( >> >--" >> >****************************************** >> >That's a No-No Gordon; don't try to get a woman to change her hair >> >because she'll hate it no matter what and blame it on you! 8-) >> >Jeanette >> >======= >> >True. I had my hair cut yesterday, so my head feels a lot lighter >> >and my fringe is no longer in my eyes. It's given me a lift. I always >> >go on a Tues as that's the day the haircuts are cheaper...$13. >> >Now I have to colour it again. >> >Bobbie >> > >> That's cheap! Even mine cost me £3 as a pensioner, but I usually give >> him £4 because he does a good job and takes plenty off. >> I wonder if it's warm enough to risk it today...... >> -- >> Gordon >========= >I prefer to go the the regular salon and get a proper cut and style for >$13 than go to the places which offer pensioner rates...and just cut. > >Bobbie > My amount of hair could not be styled, other than a Number 1, Number 2, and probably a Number 3. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:29:38 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <29289-3F8D67E2-10@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAq4SMze3+Sn17pVzwKp5/+vCh7ksCFG/N7AWGXoxCI/z6OB0pNs3Odc3s Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 733 Lines: 14 Joy wrote to me in response to my reply re makeup: "I have other makeup but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had extremely dry skin, but the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup looks splotchy after it's been on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the mood strikes me! I do use moisturizers religiously. Jeanette I did try wearing foundation for a while, but I found that the area over my upper lip always looked as though I hadn't put any makeup on that spot. It looked weird, so I decided to save the cost and trouble of using the foundation. " *********************************** I said previously my skin looked splotchy - weird is a better word! The only way I can describe it is to say it looked "fluffy". Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:30:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3f8c75e4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <601jb.178827$0v4.13741379@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <7fems$BdvPj$EwKw@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8d3c1d$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066237726 14556 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 17:08:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:08:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1131 Lines: 40 Barbara Christian wrote >> >> > >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > Bobbie >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they >> >> > >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. >> >> > >> > -- >> >> > >> > Jean B. >> >> > >> ====== >> >> > >> So do I. >> >> > >> Bobbie >> >> > > >> >> > >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out >> >> > >looking at shirts. Ugh. >> >> > > >> >> > I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... >> >> > I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. >> >> > -- >> >> > Gordon >> >> ========== >> >> That's pretty dear, isn't it? >> >> Bobbie >> > >> >It sounds so to me. I didn't even know men's shirts ever brought that >> >high a price. >> > >> >Joy >> > >> It is fairly trendy shop, and I didn't stay in there long because I >> felt I was making the place look uncool...... ;-) >> -- >> Gordon >========= >Oh, diddums! >Bobbie > Yeaah, it was so cool there were - like - black people in there! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <29289-3F8D68C8-11@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETArAhQiseADtnF2922RBydP2H4JVzjf1QITEEhtFw3+R5UJbJSr69DwXoxe1Q== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 487 Lines: 10 Val wrote: "Farm made clotted cream is to die for Mmmmmm! Now I wouldn't touch Marmade if it was given to me. When I make marmalade I use fresh Seville oranges, demerra sugar and chunks of crystallised ginger - it tastes great :)" ************************************* Val, what does "clotted cream" taste like? Is it sweet or sourish tasteing? Marmade is that butter substitute, is it not? Our butter substitue is called oleo or margarine. Some is very tastey now days! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:34:31 -0300 Message-ID: <86qqov488evn3n0rld4p0vhkiu3ge8iusb@4ax.com> References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066232054 24730321 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1570 Lines: 40 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:56:31 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Barbara Christian wrote >> >>I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it >>was the first three times I read it. >> >>Bobbie >> >>******** >>US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops >>Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while >>British are condemned as too soft >> >>US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have >>uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in >>central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who >>do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of >>palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the >>bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of >>Baghdad. >> >>Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, >>that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not >>informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim >>district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. >> >>For full article: >>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 >> >I was sceptical when this was first posted here, but..... > >Reminiscent of the Third Reich's way of dealing with French resistance >in WW2. :-( Well, they probably went to the master (Sharon) for a bit of guidance before they did that! He's full of tricks like that. Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:09 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:35:06 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d675b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066231643 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1384 Lines: 44 > >I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it > >was the first three times I read it. > > > >Bobbie > > > >******** > >US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops > >Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while > >British are condemned as too soft > > > >US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have > >uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in > >central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who > >do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of > >palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the > >bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of > >Baghdad. > > > >Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, > >that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not > >informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim > >district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. > > > >For full article: > >http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 > > > I was sceptical when this was first posted here, but..... > > Reminiscent of the Third Reich's way of dealing with French resistance > in WW2. :-( > -- > Gordon ============ Exactly! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Touchers Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:37:12 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d67d9$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066231769 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 560 Lines: 30 "> >I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist > > Ooooh-er! > > > so am > >fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, > > Oooooooh-errrrr! > > > and I'm also intuitive, > > AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH! > > >which is probably why I chose psychology. > > > >Bobbie > > > You don't practice it in here, I hope? > -- > Gordon > (Paranoid) ============= No way. I have to put on my psych hat for that. However, there are several in this group who set my alarm bells ringing, but don't worry, mate, you're not one of them. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: Subject: Re: Why Men Should Not be Allowed to Do Laundry X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:39:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.141 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066232360 171.75.14.141 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:20 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:20 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 842 Lines: 31 GRIN. My laundry bag has on it, "This laundry is presorted. Everything in this bag is dirty.". cheers bob "Joan F (MI)" wrote in message news:bmfap6$mblg1$1@ID-57393.news.uni-berlin.de... > Man Attacks Stain in Trousers...Destroys Apartment > > > Oct 13, 10:35 am ET > > MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Russian man may wish he had stuck with having dirty > trousers after an imaginative attempt to purge a stubborn paint stain on > them destroyed his apartment. > > The unnamed Muscovite added a liter of petrol to his washing machine to help > dissolve the stain, Itar-Tass news agency reported Monday, but the ensuing > explosion wrecked his kitchen and demolished two internal walls. > > Moscow police confirmed there had been an explosion in a south-eastern > Moscow apartment, but would not comment on the cause. > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f89cb45$0$15134$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <5vakov0aladlj228pblk2hvkj0to0k8033@4ax.com> <3f8b25dc$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:39:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.141 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066232363 171.75.14.141 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:23 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:23 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 232 Lines: 14 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8b25dc$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > One can't debate rationally with any radical. > I've frequently thought that about you. grin cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031013144705.29144.00000340@mb-m12.aol.com> Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:39:23 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.141 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066232363 171.75.14.141 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:23 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:23 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 1212 Lines: 55 "Marian" wrote in message news:20031013144705.29144.00000340@mb-m12.aol.com... > >> >>Mr Bush stated; "Clearly, the Castro regime will not change by its own > >> >>choice, but Cuba must change, the dictator has responded with defiance > >and > >> >>contempt and a new round of brutal oppression that outraged the world's > >> >>conscience." > >> >>Bush is calling for regime change in Cuba. Regime change in Iraq, Regime > >> >>change in Iran, Regime change in North Korea, Regime change in Sierra > >Leone > >> >>Regime change in Syria who does think guy think he is? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>Endless war! > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>Sinclair > >> > > >> >He knows who he is. President of the United States of America which was > >> >attacked on, September 11, 2001, and declared war on terrorism. > >> > > >> >If you are a terrorist better watch out. > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Eugene A. Calame > >> > >> So, now Fidel is a terrorist? > >> > >> Marian > > > >He supports/has supported terrorism. Ever hear of Che?? > > > >cheers > > > >bob > > Don't be absurd, Bob. > So, you are not familiar with Che's activities in Central and South America. figures bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <31554a99.0310131335.41b3dd0d@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Iraq War Justification X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:39:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.141 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066232365 171.75.14.141 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:25 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:25 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 4264 Lines: 96 Good post. Remember how much love we got from Islam when we protected Muslims in Bosnia?? snort bob "Tim" wrote in message news:31554a99.0310131335.41b3dd0d@posting.google.com... > > Some Americans now charges that the war was fought on false pretences since > > a report by a top CIA weapons hunter said no weapons of mass destruction > > have yet been found. > > The UN and Iraq both admitted that they both had tangible proof of > Iraq's WMD programs just after the previous war (Gulf War I) in the > 1990s. Iraq signed the declaration and the UN discovered weaponized > biological weapons, and buried nuclear weapons components (enriched > uranium). > > All the UN wanted for sanctions to end was for Iraq to provide proof > of their destruction over the years. Do you seriously think that Iraq > volunteered to starve their people JUST so the world would think they > still had the weapons? > > Iraq had a very long time to comply with a very simple demand. > > Let us assume for now that there are no WMDs in Iraq. Were they > actually destroyed or merely moved? And if destroyed, then when? > > Logic would rather dictate that Iraq had them until very recently and > had either destroyed them just before the war/inspections or has > moved/hidden them. > > > George Bush replies. "I can't think of any people who think that the world > > would be a safe place with Saddam Hussein in power" > > > > Is the world a safer place now? No! We have upped the ante. > > Would leaving him in power increase US safety? The other leaders in > the Middle East promised the US that they'd handle him (Hussein) which > is the reason he was left untouched last time. So it was clear the > the Arabs and Palestinians don't care about the welfare of Iraqis and > never had. > > The only way to address the terrorist threat is by attacking it > outright. People often say that we should address the issues that > cause the terrorist agendas -- but then you will be entertaining the > most esoteric of perceived slights. What if an organization comes > along demanding half the country be dedicated to the worship of the > almighty holy penguin goddess (rhetorical only)... If you think > that's a ridiculous idea, then look at the demands of radical Islamist > in South-East Asian countries. > > If terrorists had legitimate greivances, then their approaches would > be similarly legitimate. Self-defense is understandable and wholly > legitimate, but intentionally targetting civilian areas for terrorist > intent is not a defensible undertaking. > > In Iraq, now we see daily attacks on Iraqis and American (and allied) > forces. We know that they aren't legitimate forces because they make > no demands, and admit no claims of responsibility. > > Bush isn't to blame for Islamic/Muslim hatred of the US. The Muslims > and Islamist hate everyone. Sunnis and Shiites both want each other > dead in more countries than you can likely imagine. Islamist hate > France, Morocco, England, Australia, Russia, Singapore (go figure on > that one), Indonesia and Germany. > > The place was always unstable. Bush simply took off the gloves and > struck them back. Has terrorism ended? Of course not. We're not > done killing them all. Sounds barbaric, but in all reality, no other > solution which has been mentioned has the slightest chance at being > nearly as effective. > > Regardless of the reasons for the specific terrorist, the most common > groups attack because they know they won't be attacked as a group > because they are safe hiding in civilian areas, in different > countries, with occassionally tacit or explicit consent of the host > governments. That situation must change. > > If I recall correctly, the terrorist regimes (which Hussein did > support) upped the ante on 9-11. I am not saying that Hussein was > even partly responsible for 9-11, but he did support the Hizbollah, > PFLP, PLO, Islamic Jihad, al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade and Hamas by > providing martyrs allowances. > > Ok, so Iran, Syria and Lebanon were bigger direct supporters, and > Yemen and Saudi Arabia were large indirect supporters. Iraq and > Afghanistan should demonstrate that the gloves are off. > > Come up with just one viable alternative. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f854153$0$7066$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f86138d$0$6610$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <8dtdov4to5eqdrd03hicgf4up6rngc13nc@4ax.com> <16ngovk3n8lrfjqvqr15mgtch11s8f4pcl@4ax.com> <%tBib.176065$0v4.13572379@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:39:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.141 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066232366 171.75.14.141 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:26 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:26 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 1354 Lines: 47 "Yoj" wrote in message news:%tBib.176065$0v4.13572379@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > "Bob Thomas" wrote in message > news:qCzib.9336$dn6.3558@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > "Yoj" wrote in message > > news:HkZhb.172610$0v4.13212821@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > > "Eugene A. Calame" wrote in message > > > news:16ngovk3n8lrfjqvqr15mgtch11s8f4pcl@4ax.com... > > > > > > > > There were many terrorist attacks before we did nothing. At least > two > > > here in > > > > the United States of America. The last being the one that trigged > our > > > response. > > > > Have there been any since? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com > > > > Austin, Texas USA > > > > > > We certainly are trying to force democracy on a people who don't > appear > > > to want it. > > > > What is the basis for that? How do you know what Cuba's people want? > > > > I suspect the people are afraid to even think about getting rid of > Castro. > > > > cheers > > > > bob > > How did Cuba get into this? I was talking about Iraq. I'm basing my > opinion of what the people in Iraq want by their current behavior. > Which Iraqis? The vast majority, or the maybe .1% who're trying to kill everybody in sight? cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031013130536.29144.00000319@mb-m12.aol.com> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:39:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.141 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066232365 171.75.14.141 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:25 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:39:25 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 626 Lines: 28 "Marian" wrote in message news:20031013130536.29144.00000319@mb-m12.aol.com... > >"Yoj" wrote > >> We certainly are trying to force democracy on a people who don't appear > >> to want it. > > >What is the basis for that? How do you know what Cuba's people want? > > > >I suspect the people are afraid to even think about getting rid of Castro. > > > >cheers > > > >bob > > The man is 77 years old. The whole hardline policy by Dubya is a nonsense, just > sucking up to the Miami hardliners for their votes in '04. Nothing more. > That's certainly possible. Politics!!! cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:43:10 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <29291-3F8D6B0E-3@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f8c746c$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAtAoMnikuyStmogW+WfOFx4uOwvACFEi0amjt2HyCuIPWz+6K3TwR+yFt Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 582 Lines: 11 Bobbie wrote: "I must check that out next time I put some foundation on. I use such a teeny amount when I do use it that I'm not even sure it shows. I've had the same small jar of foundation for 4 years so I obviously don't wear much...or very often." *************************************** When I use make-up, I use the water-based kind. I've read/heard that one should throw out any old cosmetics after a year, because of germs. Certainly this is true for eye makup, but when I go to use foundation, I usually have to buy a new bottle because the other is all funky! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014191018.06857.00000677@mb-m20.aol.com> <1tyczbsgm690u$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8d406f$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1rp79u4q0hxoi$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:46:49 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d6a1b$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066232347 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1479 Lines: 39 > > I'm like you....I love open spaces and natural surroundings. Having > > said that, I do enjoy going to Southbank, but essentially, that's > > open spaces and natural surroundings, even though it's just > > across the river from the CBD. > > > Looking across the parklands from one of my favourite restaurants. > > The ramp is for the City Cat. The cement along the river is the > > cycle/pedestrian track. The long low building is the Art Gallery > > and the Entertainment Centre. The higher one is the State Library. > > The building in front of the long low building is the State Museum. > > http://skyscrapers.com/re/en/im/df/112468/ > > > More pictures of Southbank: > > http://community.webshots.com/album/35056421sNXULX > > > Bobbie > > Looks very clean and pretty - very much holiday atmosphere. What is the > mountain in the background - it looks like a mountain but maybe a large > hill? > Thanks for the links I found them interesting :) > -- > val ============== The mountain is Mt Cootha....After that there more mountains... the Brisbane and D'Aguiler ranges. Here's some pictures of Brisbane from Mt Cootha. My daughter and SIL live 5 minutes from Mt Cootha. We often go there for lunch. http://www.deadmac.com/DeadMacOld/autrip/MtCootha-scenic/html/index.html You can click on the pictures to enlarge them. You can view all Brisbane and environs from Mt Cootha as you'll see in the pictures. The flat area the past Brisbane is the ocean. Bobbie Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ca0d8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:48:21 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d6a77$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066232439 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 840 Lines: 30 > >>>> I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the > >>>> real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. > >>>> Bobbie > >>> > >>> Fish and chips is never served in newspaper these days Bobbie - white > >> paper > >>> the same as your :) > >>> -- > >>> val > >> ========= > >> Better than having news print all over the chips, eh? > >> I put vinegar on my chips. What do you do? > >> Bobbie > > > >Apart from a little salt, nothing! I'm trying to give up salt too, not easy > >but gradually getting used to it. > > I have found that if add no salt for a short while you find out just how > much occurs naturally in food, but I do love salt, so I have to > restrain myself. > (You will all have noticed my capacity for self-restraint). :) > -- > Gordon ========= Yeah, right! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ca0d8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8d3c91$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1qnqzvklpo9sv$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:49:10 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d6aa8$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066232489 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 912 Lines: 34 > >>>>> I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the > >>>>> real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. > >>>>> Bobbie > >>>> > >>>> Fish and chips is never served in newspaper these days Bobbie - white > >>> paper > >>>> the same as your :) > >>>> -- > >>>> val > >>> ========= > >>> Better than having news print all over the chips, eh? > >>> I put vinegar on my chips. What do you do? > >>> Bobbie > >> > >> Apart from a little salt, nothing! I'm trying to give up salt too, not > > easy > >> but gradually getting used to it. > >> -- > >> val > > ======== > > I rarely use salt but do enjoy a bit of it on my chips. Once a month > > isn't going to hurt me, especially since my BP is 120/70. I actually > > do use a bit of salt in summer to replace lost salts. > > Bobbie > > excellent BP :) > -- > val ======== Not bad for an old chook, eh? Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:10 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <29289-3F8D67E2-10@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:54:47 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d6bf9$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066232825 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 980 Lines: 22 > Joy wrote to me in response to my reply re makeup: "I have other makeup > but ver very rarely wear it. I have always had extremely dry skin, but > the older I get, the drier it gets. Makup looks splotchy after it's been > on for a few hours. I wear lipstick when the mood strikes me! I do use > moisturizers religiously. Jeanette > I did try wearing foundation for a while, but I found that the area over > my upper lip always looked as though I hadn't put any makeup on that > spot. It looked weird, so I decided to save the cost and trouble of > using the foundation. " > *********************************** > I said previously my skin looked splotchy - weird is a better word! The > only way I can describe it is to say it looked "fluffy". > Jeanette =========== I just went and looked in the mirror, then got out the magnifying mirror. I don't think I look splotchy or fluffy yet....aside from my hands, which tend to look a bit like spotted wrinkled gloves. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f89cb45$0$15134$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <5vakov0aladlj228pblk2hvkj0to0k8033@4ax.com> <3f8b25dc$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:56:44 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d6c6e$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066232942 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 250 Lines: 14 > One can't debate rationally with any radical. > > > I've frequently thought that about you. grin > > cheers > > bob ========= Sponge calling the blotter an old soak? Or reaction formation....projecting your radical traits on to another. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:57:13 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQIjWFJwDkxEmCGp0xLZso2oGJZlgIUY6MosLswA8FtpBmNk+ncaM3u1nA= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 1069 Lines: 22 Gordon wrote: "Last year, Electricity cost me =A3236, and gas cost =A3226. Monthly equivs are =A319.66 and =A318.83 respectively. I pay bills at the end of the quarter. I don't believe in leaving money in the Utilities bank account instead of mine in summer..... I could reduce the charges by going monthly DD, but it just about offsets the advantage of the quarterly credit. Gas fired central heating and hot water via Combi boiler. Electric cooker and electric shower." *************************************** I also pay my utility bills monthly, sit down and write checks for them. I want to know what the charge is before I paythe bill. My mobil home is all electric - a/c & heat, oven and range, fridge, hot water heater, dryer, washing machine, etc. My electric bills in the summer when the a/c is on (practically 9 months out of the year) are under $90 a month; when I use the electric heater, they go much higher. Living in the country, using butane or LP gas is the only other alternative and the gas costs much more than my electric bills. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <86qqov488evn3n0rld4p0vhkiu3ge8iusb@4ax.com> Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:58:00 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d6cba$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066233018 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1573 Lines: 47 > >>I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it > >>was the first three times I read it. > >> > >>Bobbie > >> > >>******** > >>US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops > >>Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while > >>British are condemned as too soft > >> > >>US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have > >>uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in > >>central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who > >>do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of > >>palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the > >>bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of > >>Baghdad. > >> > >>Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, > >>that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not > >>informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim > >>district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. > >> > >>For full article: > >>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 > >> > >I was sceptical when this was first posted here, but..... > > > >Reminiscent of the Third Reich's way of dealing with French resistance > >in WW2. :-( > > Well, they probably went to the master (Sharon) for a bit of guidance > before they did that! He's full of tricks like that. > > Paul =========== That sounds logical...right up Sharon's ally. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8c746c$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <29291-3F8D6B0E-3@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:08:54 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8d6f49$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066233673 15970 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 681 Lines: 17 > Bobbie wrote: "I must check that out next time I put some foundation > on. I use such a teeny amount when I do use it that I'm not even sure it > shows. I've had the same small jar of foundation for 4 years so I > obviously don't wear much...or very often." > *************************************** > When I use make-up, I use the water-based kind. I've read/heard that > one should throw out any old cosmetics after a year, because of germs. > Certainly this is true for eye makup, but when I go to use foundation, I > usually have to buy a new bottle because the other is all funky! > Jeanette ========= Oh dear......mine is well and truly past it's use by date. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:26:23 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <29291-3F8D752F-4@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUArkfy2fqDLVZJCrHjAZy2YFYEXBoCFHmEVVKlmXoamaH2mynZV3CQ8YeE Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 717 Lines: 14 Sinclair wrote: "Mr Bush stated; "Clearly, the Castro regime will not change by its own choice, but Cuba must change, the dictator has responded with defiance and contempt and a new round of brutal oppression that outraged the world's conscience." Bush is calling for regime change in Cuba. Regime change in Iraq, Regime change in Iran, Regime change in North Korea, Regime change in Sierra Leone Regime change in Syria who does think guy think he is?" ************************************* God??? maybe. It's not our business. I guess you're right Sinclair, Endless War. I don't think he ever did anthing on his own. The power of the presidency went to his head! And he says and does what he wants!!! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:34:11 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <29291-3F8D7703-5@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <2hvgovoii2qksrfi88ncn8dclpjek8c5tn@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAmud1L1paT60Z19jxiz6YgWhygEsCFQClKK/yMJiJwP1EMdeONSUxG1TRCQ== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 971 Lines: 20 Eugene wrote: "The economy is doing very well and improving much to the horror of the left. Other domestic woes are well, domestic woes. They have been with us always and will always be with us. California had many and just recently took steps to correct one of their woes. There will be more. No need for breast beating and saber rattling, President Bush has the support of the people. The terrorist provided all the incentives needed to generate flag-waving. Endless wars depends on the terrorist and the efforts of nations to eliminate them." *************************************** I really don't think the "lefts" are horror stricken by improving economy. Besides, it hasn't improved that much, if at all. As far as California goes, it is beyond redemption, in my opinion. I pity Arnold S. trying to do anything about Calif. woes. That is a state where if you are Godless and mindless, you will prevail! Ruined, absolutely ruined, in my opnion. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:51:06 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <29291-3F8D7AFA-8@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAoQUsAQkBoXFosieeeM5XF5QRFGICFQDC6s8FwEPOmUBX/375CuwJ385jrw== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 305 Lines: 7 Bobbie, Bob, Eugene and Marian have traded insults enough, don't you think? It is becoming boring sifting through all the political crap. Think what you like, but stop trying to change the minds others of us who are sick of this subject. Neither side will give an inch, so please be quiet! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:01:06 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <29287-3F8D7D52-51@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <7CY2LKBNiSh$EwrN@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ6+93EPLICFENBHPSxANh0Gt2TQgIUErXTeyYkdZB1LbYBxrX6r6+fKXI= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 586 Lines: 10 Someone wrote: "George Bush the daddy headed up the drive to put Saddam out of Kuwait. Clinton had nothing to do with that." ************************************* That is correct! That war?? was sanctioned by the former George Bush. It might have been because of the oil there, and probablywas. I can remember hearing and seeing the then President Bush speaking about "multiple points of lght", or something like that. And watching the war or whatever it was called, wih each side shooting missiles at each other, for endless hours. Clinton had nothing to do with it. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:30:40 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f89cb45$0$15134$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <5vakov0aladlj228pblk2hvkj0to0k8033@4ax.com> Reply-To: mike_clayton@ntlworld.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m352-mp1.cvx2-a.lee.dial.ntli.net (62.252.241.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066239150 25095714 62.252.241.96 (16 [155445]) X-Orig-Path: ntlworld.com!mike_clayton User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U (<7HYqYgwAhFAThcIO+B2jMFZ6dA>) Status: O Content-Length: 1143 Lines: 29 In message , Eugene A. Calame writes >>This is one were a group of former U.S. federal judges, diplomats, >>military officials and human rights advocates urged the Supreme Court on >>Thursday to review the case of detainees held without being charged at >>Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere in the name of terrorism. >> >>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&ncid=1896&e=5&u=/n >>m/20031009/us_nm/rights_guantanamo_dc_3 > > >No doubt there is a lot of tugging back and forth. > >However I think the URL's I provided, from official gov. sources, >http://usinfo.state.gov , covers most to the questions. > I am a little reluctant to accept assurances from the wolf that he didn't eat Little Red Riding Hood's grandma. I would place more weight on the opinion of other creatures of the forest :-) >You will have to decide for yourself which is accurate. > See above :-) -- Mike Clayton Reputation is what other people know about you. Honour is what you know about yourself. Lois McMaster Bujold, "A Civil Campaign", 1999 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Message-ID: <1ksqovsrvo81rtu33tq860dlaasa8qnfus@4ax.com> References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <86qqov488evn3n0rld4p0vhkiu3ge8iusb@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:31:24 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.117.254 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066239085 64.231.117.254 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:31:25 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:31:25 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 3402 Lines: 76 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:34:31 -0300, bforester wrote: >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:56:31 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>Barbara Christian wrote >>> >>>I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it >>>was the first three times I read it. >>> >>>Bobbie >>> >>>******** >>>US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops >>>Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while >>>British are condemned as too soft >>> >>>US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have >>>uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in >>>central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who >>>do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of >>>palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the >>>bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of >>>Baghdad. >>> >>>Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, >>>that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not >>>informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim >>>district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. >>> >>>For full article: >>>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 >>> >>I was sceptical when this was first posted here, but..... >> >>Reminiscent of the Third Reich's way of dealing with French resistance >>in WW2. :-( > >Well, they probably went to the master (Sharon) for a bit of guidance >before they did that! He's full of tricks like that. > >Paul Paul, This is the article to which I referred in an earlier post. I was reluctant to post it initially because, horrific as it is, I was not sure of its authenticity. Also I didn't want it to become political cannon-fodder. I have since seen, in a Brit ng, that this sorry episode has been reported on the BBC, which, if their reporting is as accurate as I remember it, adds the authenticity. Obviously this is in direct contravention of the Geneva Convention on the treatment of non-combatant civilians. The Convention specifically states that it is illegal to destroy crops or the means of lively-hood. The question now is, will the officer responsible for the decision face a court-martial, or even the international court? Don't hold your breath. I feel that this action will stretch American credibility to the limit unless it is dealt with in the appropriate manner. Your comment re Sharon is interesting as I have seen it proposed elsewhere that the only country to benefit from this attack on Iraq is Israel. As there have been rumblings toward Syria, I will not be surprised if this is the next country on the agenda, in which case, the US will lose any respect and credibility it happens to have left. I don't think for one minute that the UK, even under Tony Blair, will support yet another foray into another nation. I recall another occasion when the British military nearly mutinied against yet another Labour PM, Harold Wilson. This was when he wanted to send British forces into Southern Rhodesia to crush Ian Smith and was told in no uncertain terms that brother would not fight brother, so he backed down. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Message-ID: References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> <3f8cec0a$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:31:25 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.117.254 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066239085 64.231.117.254 (Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:31:25 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:31:25 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 10818 Lines: 205 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:49:12 +1000, "Barbara Christian" wrote: > >> > >> >I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation >> >the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two >> >irreconcilable ideologies. >> > >> >One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is >> >conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) >> >and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its >> >day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. >> >Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness >> >to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. >> > >> >Paul >> >> >> Interesting concept Paul, however, I see the reactions as being >> caused simply by fear. Remember that until 9/11 any attacks on US >> and other countries installations were in foreign lands. This could be >> reported at supper time on CNN and be greeted with the expected >> tut-tutting, in turn to be followed by the evening's 'entertainment'. >> 9/11 on the other hand brought the reality of terror activities >> right into the States which had some idea that this could never happen >> to them. >> Once this happened there was turmoil. For those on the left it was >> a case of "Why do they hate us so much, we must find out and make them >> love us." While for the right, it was a case of "Let's blow them >> away." Basically the pacifist side driven by the fear that anything >> they do may upset someone and make things worse and the aggressive >> side driven by the fear that if they don't do something it will only >> get worse. The fore-going is of course greatly simplified. >> When I mentioned this event to my brother who was in ignorance of it >> as he happened to be in Portugal at the time. He had seen it on TV in >> a bar, but not speaking the language sufficiently well to follow the >> report assumed it was advertising a new movie. His comment to me >> was, "Tough, we've lived with that shit for 30 years." Thinking >> about this seemingly heartless comment, I realised he was right. This >> terrorism thing has been going on for years, but the US was in >> isolation from it, so could ignore it. >> Now we come to the complicated bit. I don't believe the States has >> the psyche, for want of a better word, for peace-keeping or >> peace-making. The whole attitude, even from the left is to attack, >> using any excuse or ammunition available, hence the acrimony and name >> calling. The left attacks the right for doing something, the right >> attacks the left and the perceived enemy. Both going 'gung-ho' at it. >> I don't believe the concept of "Softly, softly, catchee monkey" has >> any meaning for them. By them I am referring to the government and the >> top military brass who seem incapable of learning from other's >> mistakes. >> As an example of the last. During the days of the Viet-nam war, my >> BIL as a member of the SAS went, with a team to Viet-nam to advise the >> American military on what to do to win. This advice was based on >> British knowledge, hard-won I might add, in Malaya. The concept was >> the one talked about a great deal now of winning the hearts and minds >> of the locals. The Brit approach in Malaya was one of going to a >> village and talking to the head-man. Telling him they were aware that >> the bandits were taking their rice and leaving them hungry and did >> they want this to continue, they were not blaming the village for >> feeding the communists as the villagers had no choice. If the village >> head-man agreed that he would rather keep the rice for his own people, >> then all he was advised to do was send someone, after the bandits had >> left, to advise the Brits. They then pursued the bandits, set up >> ambushes and killed them. Gradually, very gradually, they cleaned up >> area after area by this method and had the local people on their side. >> The American brass ignored this advice, stating they would do it their >> way and promptly destroyed village after village, getting hate from >> the villagers instead of assistance. The bottom line was that the >> Brits won in Malaya while the Americans were forced to leave Viet-nam. >> The same thing happened in Afghanistan. I read a report where some >> US special forces, working with their Brit counter-parts had subdued >> one of the northern areas. They were on good terms with the locals, >> respected their traditions regarding the women and didn't use much >> force at all. The locals then told them where the arms dumps were, >> when the Al-quaida or the Taliban were in the area and where. In >> short, full co-operation in return for kindness, respect and medical >> treatment for those who needed it. >> Then some US paratroops were assigned to the area. The special forces >> guys briefed them on what had been going on and that all was quiet, >> they offered to accompany the paratroop patrols as they were known to >> the locals. I believe it was a captain in charge of the paras who >> said, "I don't need your help, we'll do it my way." His way was to >> kick in doors to search for weapons, even into the women's quarters, >> which was a definite no-no. One of the special force men reported >> that, "This arse-hole has undone 6 months of hard work in a few >> hours." >> I read another report recently from Iraq which I refrained from >> posting because quite frankly it made me sick to read it. (If you are >> interested, let me know, I'll either post it here or send it by >> e-mail.) It seems an American officer, deciding that some local >> farmers had not been telling all they knew, ordered the fields and >> date-palms bull-dozed in retaliation. (Does this sound familiar?) >> This is heartless and in direct violation of the Geneva Convention >> regarding the treatment of civilians in occupied territories. This >> particular officer, if the report is true, should be hauled before the >> world court and sentenced. However, I don't see this happening, but >> with this attitude, I can, unfortunately see nothing but disaster >> ahead and hope that the British government will withdraw their troops >> from this theatre. >> I too am glad that our government did not support this ill-advised >> adventure other than the ships we already had in the area. However, I >> do feel that Cretien should have offered moral support and not got >> into the Bush bashing that several of his members did. >> >> Sorry this is so long, but one thing seemed to lead naturally to the >> next. >> >> Jan >=========== Thank you, we humble colonials do our best >Excellent analysis! As for the points you made: > >* Terrorism has been going on for years, but the US was > isolated from it, so could ignore it.............................. >I feel the big difference was that it was a large terrorist >attack in their country. And the general American attitude >tends to be that they are so strong that nobody would >dare attack their country. Of course, this is what I meant. Suddenly reality was thrust upon the US, a reality that other countries had been experiencing for years. > >* Driven by fear..................................................... >Instead of calming the fear and encouraging resolution >of the trauma and PTS, the Bush regime used the fear >and shock to institute their propaganda program in order >to increase the fear, trauma and PTS, in order to put in >place the Neo-Con's NPAC plan for empire-building >and world domination by a fascist style dictatorship, >of the world, of the US. As far as I'm concerned, >using the trauma and fear for their mind control >of the US population was a moral crime. First I'm not too sure about this PTS and trauma stuff, I've never had it and I've had plenty of trauma. I admit I think of it in term of yet another pseudo science to keep social workers in employment. I don't really think the US is out for world domination in the usual sense. I think it was a reaction to a violent attack that started the whole ball rolling. Remember that Afghanistan was the first target, and the US had full co-operation for that adventure. > >* I don't believe the States has the psyche for peace-keeping or >peace-making............................................. >I don't either. The psyche has developed into a penchant for >wars, power and control and violence as the answer for >anything. Violence is even the theme of the national anthem: >'rocket's red flare, bombs bursting in the air......' The >emphasis in dealing with other nations has always tended to >be attack, control, blackmail, threaten, coerce. However, >this is by far the worst I have ever seen it. I had hoped >that as the US matured it would drop the frontier mentality >and gain negotiation, diplomacy and as you say, 'Softly, >softly, catchee monkey' skills. But, I don't see any signs >of this happening, and it certainly won't happen while >the wild west cowboy is in office. Once again I don't want to comment on President Bush. I believe he is following the counsel of his advisors and had to do something. In Afghanistan I think he was correct, in Iraq, no, he blew it. > >* Malaya & the Brits/ Vietnam & the Yanks............. >The differences in approach have been patently obvious >for half a century. The Brits way works, the Yank way >creates more angst, anger and retaliation. I've been >following the situation in Afghanistan closely and I agree >with your assessment there as well. And, as you say, >the same thing is happening in Iraq, and will keep getting >worse as long as the Yanks are determined to occupy >Iraq and usurp their oil and economy. The UN and the >more 'mature' nations are aware of this. Even the less >'mature' nations are aware of this. I think there's something deeper than oil involved. The US got all the oil it needed from the ME without going to war. To me, that just does not make sense. > >* Yank bulldozing of Iraqi date palms in retaliation........ >I read that article too and like you was so aghast that >it took me a day to even post it to my epals >around the world. Shades of Nazi Germany. I >evidently deleted it and couldn't find it again. If you >still have it, I think you should post it. I held off on that one as I have explained elsewhere. > >* Involvement in US Iraq war...................... >I'm proud of the Canadian government's stand >as well, and ashamed of our participation there. >At least we've withdrawn our troops. I agree >that Britain should as well. I don't see Blair withdrawing the troops as yet, it would be an admission of failure for him, and I don't think he likes failure. > >Bobbie > Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Oh Well" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:32:32 -0500 Organization: Sprint Advanced Network Services Message-ID: References: <29291-3F8D7AFA-8@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.109.105.66 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.utelfla.com 1066239171 13691 63.109.105.66 (15 Oct 2003 17:32:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.utelfla.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:32:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Status: O Content-Length: 441 Lines: 12 Amen Jeanette S. wrote in message = news:29291-3F8D7AFA-8@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net... | Bobbie, Bob, Eugene and Marian have traded insults enough, don't you | think? It is becoming boring sifting through all the political crap. | Think what you like, but stop trying to change the minds others of us | who are sick of this subject. Neither side will give an inch, so | please be quiet! | Jeanette |=20 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:42:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: mike_clayton@ntlworld.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m352-mp1.cvx2-a.lee.dial.ntli.net (62.252.241.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066239870 23714532 62.252.241.96 (16 [155445]) X-Orig-Path: ntlworld.com!mike_clayton User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U (<7HYqYgwAhFAThcIO+B2jMFZ6dA>) Status: O Content-Length: 514 Lines: 13 In message , Yoj writes >Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much >more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) >than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a >perfect "10". > All women are lovely, they are interesting and exciting creatures :-) -- Mike Clayton Dragons slain, damsels ravished, evil doers vanquished http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:57:12 -0300 Message-ID: References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <86qqov488evn3n0rld4p0vhkiu3ge8iusb@4ax.com> <1ksqovsrvo81rtu33tq860dlaasa8qnfus@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066240615 25376631 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 3826 Lines: 86 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:31:24 -0400, Jan wrote: >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:34:31 -0300, bforester >wrote: > >>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:56:31 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>Barbara Christian wrote >>>> >>>>I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it >>>>was the first three times I read it. >>>> >>>>Bobbie >>>> >>>>******** >>>>US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops >>>>Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while >>>>British are condemned as too soft >>>> >>>>US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have >>>>uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in >>>>central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who >>>>do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of >>>>palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the >>>>bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of >>>>Baghdad. >>>> >>>>Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, >>>>that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not >>>>informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim >>>>district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. >>>> >>>>For full article: >>>>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 >>>> >>>I was sceptical when this was first posted here, but..... >>> >>>Reminiscent of the Third Reich's way of dealing with French resistance >>>in WW2. :-( >> >>Well, they probably went to the master (Sharon) for a bit of guidance >>before they did that! He's full of tricks like that. >> >>Paul > > >Paul, > This is the article to which I referred in an earlier post. I was >reluctant to post it initially because, horrific as it is, I was not >sure of its authenticity. Also I didn't want it to become political >cannon-fodder. I have since seen, in a Brit ng, that this sorry >episode has been reported on the BBC, which, if their reporting is as >accurate as I remember it, adds the authenticity. > Obviously this is in direct contravention of the Geneva Convention >on the treatment of non-combatant civilians. The Convention >specifically states that it is illegal to destroy crops or the means >of lively-hood. The question now is, will the officer responsible for >the decision face a court-martial, or even the international court? >Don't hold your breath. >I feel that this action will stretch American credibility to the limit >unless it is dealt with in the appropriate manner. > Your comment re Sharon is interesting as I have seen it proposed >elsewhere that the only country to benefit from this attack on Iraq is >Israel. As there have been rumblings toward Syria, I will not be >surprised if this is the next country on the agenda, in which case, >the US will lose any respect and credibility it happens to have left. > I don't think for one minute that the UK, even under Tony Blair, >will support yet another foray into another nation. I recall another >occasion when the British military nearly mutinied against yet another >Labour PM, Harold Wilson. This was when he wanted to send British >forces into Southern Rhodesia to crush Ian Smith and was told in no >uncertain terms that brother would not fight brother, so he backed >down. > >Jan > >"If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" Hi Jan, interesting post and analysis as always! One comment: it's always been my belief that Iraq was attacked a) as an object lesson to the area or b) to remove a potential threat to Israel, so I agree with whoever suggested that possibility in another group. Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:11 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:11:08 +0100 Message-ID: <+YGXtNA82Yj$EwaK@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <29289-3F8D67E2-10@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066241922 2810 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 18:18:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:18:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 216 Lines: 9 Jeanette S. wrote >I said previously my skin looked splotchy - weird is a better word! The >only way I can describe it is to say it looked "fluffy". >Jeanette > You have culture, then? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:14:02 +0100 Message-ID: <04jV1YAq5Yj$Ew4P@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <29287-3F8D6741-26@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066241923 2810 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 18:18:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:18:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 691 Lines: 14 Jeanette S. wrote >Gordon wrote: "I saw some great men's shirts today.   £50, but real >dressy.... I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday." >*************************************** >Laughing because I did the same thing with my husband. I loved to read >and would give him lists of books to choose from and would get a stupid >pot or something. I told him finally that if he brought me any more >gifts to be used in the kitchen, I would either give them away or return >them. He did much better after that! Jeanette > The stores in the UK in January are full of women queuing at customer services with their husbands efforts at Xmas presents. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Anita Carter" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:19:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-225-62-133.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com (80.225.62.133) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066241997 25162401 80.225.62.133 (16 [125170]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: O Content-Length: 672 Lines: 20 "Mike Clayton" wrote in message news:WsvQ2gPEcYj$EwdF@ntlworld.com... > In message , > Yoj writes > >Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much > >more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) > >than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > >perfect "10". > > > All women are lovely, they are interesting and exciting creatures :-) Ooooooohhhhh a man that appreciates us, but not so much of the creatures' - hello Mike :-)) -- Anita Smile: it costs nothing, it creates much. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:11:22 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1fwjzoe2fz256.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1qb3jp0r133n5$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8d3a15$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m47-mp1.cvx3-b.bre.dial.ntli.net (62.255.100.47) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066245176 24828391 62.255.100.47 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (d32ee8e9.156.390) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 288 Lines: 9 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:22:02 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: > It is true. It was on BBC news radio the other day, and was on BBC TV > yesterday. Total destruction of all the trees. Awful! That is so sad :( -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 20:11:11 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:14:04 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1p7gh8qglcel6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <20031013134302.29144.00000327@mb-m12.aol.com> <3f8b4a00$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m47-mp1.cvx3-b.bre.dial.ntli.net (62.255.100.47) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066245339 24828391 62.255.100.47 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (bd24e0a7.128.356) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 1758 Lines: 42 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:21:56 -0400, Jan scrawled: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:13:59 +0100, Aries > wrote: >>On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:43:10 -0400, Jan scrawled: >> >>> Which part of North Devon Val? I spent several years working out of >>> Barnstaple, with North Devon as my territory before I emigrated. Used >>> to cover from Porlock down past Clovelly and Hartland Point then a >>> sweep inland. >> >>Just outside of Witheridge near Rackenford. In the 1990's we also had a >>farm in Witheridge on the Drayford Road - Coombe House, do you know of it? >>We had 65 acres of our own but had to rent grass keep from time to time when >>our sheep flock grew in numbers. >> >>I know Barnstaple well. What was your job there? > I can't place it right now Val. Is it up on Exmoor or more to the > south. South Molton way. Do you know I'm having the greatest > difficulty trying to remember the names from around there, quite > embarrassing. Coombe House, the closest I can think of, and I'm not > sure if I've got the spelling right is Coombe Martin, or was that > Combe Martin. Lynton, Lynmouth, Oare of Lorna Doone fame. Not to > worry, I guess after 40+ years I'm entitled to forget some things. > I was the GPO telecom sales rep. for N.Devon, talk about a big fish in > a very small pond. Anything to do with phones from those beautiful > red boxes to home service was my responsibility. > Jan > > "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" How long ago were you the GPO sales rep for N. Devon Jan? Our farm was Coombe House, Witheridge, N. Devon - slap bang between South Molton and Tiverton on the A361. Does that ring any bells? -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 20:12:24 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:19:19 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <6w0hf1rj9jv9.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <29289-3F8D68C8-11@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m47-mp1.cvx3-b.bre.dial.ntli.net (62.255.100.47) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066245653 24828391 62.255.100.47 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (6181210c.213.282) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 972 Lines: 21 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:33:28 -0500 (CDT), Jeanette S. scrawled: > Val wrote: "Farm made clotted cream is to die for Mmmmmm! Now I > wouldn't touch Marmade if it was given to me. When I make marmalade I > use fresh Seville oranges, demerra sugar and chunks of crystallised > ginger - it tastes great :)" > ************************************* > Val, what does "clotted cream" taste like? Is it sweet or sourish > tasteing? Marmade is that butter substitute, is it not? Our butter > substitue is called oleo or margarine. Some is very tastey now days! > Jeanette Marmade is tinned seville oranges especially directed at the home marmalade making department. Nothing to do with butter or butter substitute Clotted cream is very thick fresh buttery type cream - not sweet or sour - just rich and creamy. I just love it on top of vanilla ice cream in a cone - to die for - sigh .......! -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 20:16:29 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:20:04 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1j0en531m6pze.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <6gavmp6xxh0r.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <1nbw184tlozt0$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8bc409$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8c766b$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ca0d8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m47-mp1.cvx3-b.bre.dial.ntli.net (62.255.100.47) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066245698 24728031 62.255.100.47 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (4d6e6014.157.338) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 1032 Lines: 35 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:54:08 +0100, Gordon scrawled: > Aries wrote >>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:28:29 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: >> >>>>> I get my fish and chips from a shop owned by a Pommy, so it's the >>>>> real thing, except it's served in white paper rather than newspaper. >>>>> Bobbie >>>> >>>> Fish and chips is never served in newspaper these days Bobbie - white >>> paper >>>> the same as your :) >>>> -- >>>> val >>> ========= >>> Better than having news print all over the chips, eh? >>> I put vinegar on my chips. What do you do? >>> Bobbie >> >>Apart from a little salt, nothing! I'm trying to give up salt too, not easy >>but gradually getting used to it. > I have found that if add no salt for a short while you find out just how > much occurs naturally in food, but I do love salt, so I have to > restrain myself. me too! > (You will all have noticed my capacity for self-restraint). :) Oh yeah LOL -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 20:19:43 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:21:14 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <1mft49vp5x8a9$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014191018.06857.00000677@mb-m20.aol.com> <1tyczbsgm690u$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8d406f$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1rp79u4q0hxoi$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8d6a1b$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m47-mp1.cvx3-b.bre.dial.ntli.net (62.255.100.47) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066245769 24849361 62.255.100.47 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (5888f07e.11.487) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 1710 Lines: 42 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:46:49 +1000, Barbara Christian scrawled: >>> I'm like you....I love open spaces and natural surroundings. Having >>> said that, I do enjoy going to Southbank, but essentially, that's >>> open spaces and natural surroundings, even though it's just >>> across the river from the CBD. >> >>> Looking across the parklands from one of my favourite restaurants. >>> The ramp is for the City Cat. The cement along the river is the >>> cycle/pedestrian track. The long low building is the Art Gallery >>> and the Entertainment Centre. The higher one is the State Library. >>> The building in front of the long low building is the State Museum. >>> http://skyscrapers.com/re/en/im/df/112468/ >> >>> More pictures of Southbank: >>> http://community.webshots.com/album/35056421sNXULX >> >>> Bobbie >> >> Looks very clean and pretty - very much holiday atmosphere. What is the >> mountain in the background - it looks like a mountain but maybe a large >> hill? >> Thanks for the links I found them interesting :) >> -- >> val > ============== > The mountain is Mt Cootha....After that there more mountains... > the Brisbane and D'Aguiler ranges. Here's some pictures of > Brisbane from Mt Cootha. My daughter and SIL live 5 minutes > from Mt Cootha. We often go there for lunch. > http://www.deadmac.com/DeadMacOld/autrip/MtCootha-scenic/html/index.html > You can click on the pictures to enlarge them. You can view all Brisbane and > environs from Mt Cootha as you'll see in the pictures. The flat area the > past Brisbane is the ocean. You are so lucky to live in such a beautiful part of the world - it's lovely -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 20:20:34 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:26:08 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <156uoxtb1ntxj.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m47-mp1.cvx3-b.bre.dial.ntli.net (62.255.100.47) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066246063 24976978 62.255.100.47 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (00d98061.54.474) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 608 Lines: 15 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:42:28 +0100, Mike Clayton scrawled: > In message , > Yoj writes >>Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much >>more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) >>than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a >>perfect "10". >> > All women are lovely, they are interesting and exciting creatures :-) I feel the same way about men - not the lovely bit though :) -- val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 20:25:21 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:54:50 GMT Message-ID: <3f8dc1fa.1982441@news.individual.net> References: <3f8c8c1d.3585255@news.individual.net> <20031015005438.29165.00000630@mb-m06.aol.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-061.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.61) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066254892 25050854 203.87.45.61 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 263 Lines: 11 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:19:40 +0100, Gordon wrote>> >I wondered about lanky - one or two topics have cropped up which he >would have had good input..... >-- >Gordon I think he is off meditating in the English countryside.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:21:58 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8c8c1d.3585255@news.individual.net> <20031015005438.29165.00000630@mb-m06.aol.com> <3f8dc1fa.1982441@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066256797 9510 194.222.103.116 (15 Oct 2003 22:26:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:26:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 350 Lines: 13 jingles wrote >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:19:40 +0100, Gordon >wrote>> >>I wondered about lanky - one or two topics have cropped up which he >>would have had good input..... >>-- >>Gordon > >I think he is off meditating in the English countryside.... > He'll get hairs on his palm...... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:22:08 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DC890.5DBD9F61@rcn.com> References: <3F8B3397.D3FDB591@rcn.com> <20031014104711.13877.00000332@mb-m29.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066256529 24556529 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 1377 Lines: 37 Marian wrote: > > >> "Joan F ... > >> > Now, I think jeans are uncomfortable. They are too stiff and > >constricting > >> > and not at all warm when it is cold. I like cotton knit pants with > >> elastic > >> > waists, sweats in the winter, though I have some light weight woven Capri > >> > length pants that I wear in the warm weather, also with elastic waists, > >> > though. > >> ========= > >> It's interesting how different people feel comfortable in different > >clothes. > >> I wear trackies(sweats) at home in winter, until I go out. It's still a bit > >> chilly this morning and I am wearing my trackies. Capri pants are > >> pedal pusher length, aren't they? That's what I wear in summer when > >> I go out. Elastic waists are indeed comfortable. I wear stretch jeans > >> so the waist expands in them. I find the slacks which don't have > >> elastic waist bands uncomfortable. > >> > >> Bobbie > > > >You can find stretch jeans with stretchy waists? I have never > >seen them. The waists are always so unyielding even when the rest > >of the clothing is comfortable. I don't know why more clothing is > >not made for comfort.... > >-- > >Jean B. > > Get a LLBean catalogue, Jean... > They have stretchy jeans with elastic waist bands??? If I am REALLY lucky, LLBean has acquired Eddie Bauer, and I will be able to buy LLBean things near here. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:22:51 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DC8BB.ED3AE049@rcn.com> References: <3F8C017A.6442FD45@rcn.com> <20031014105933.13877.00000334@mb-m29.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066256571 24556529 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 435 Lines: 19 Marian wrote: > > > I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans > >> are stretch jeans. > >> > >> Bobbie > > > >I don't know Tar-jay.... > >-- > >Jean B. > > Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? That's how a daughter > refers to it here. Dint know it was in Oz though... Marian That's what I wondered, but then I started wondering whether there was a whole separate store. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:12 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:24:22 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DC916.AEE353F@rcn.com> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066256662 24556529 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 774 Lines: 30 Gordon wrote: > > Jean B. wrote > >Barbara Christian wrote: > >> > >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. > >> > > > >> > > Bobbie > >> > > >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they > >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. > >> > -- > >> > Jean B. > >> ====== > >> So do I. > >> Bobbie > > > >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out > >looking at shirts. Ugh. > > > I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... > I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. > -- > Gordon Actually, that's helpful of you. I frequently get NO clues from people. It is much easier if one dispenses with the games and says what he/she wants. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:25:51 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066256752 24556529 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 421 Lines: 13 Yoj wrote: > > Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much > more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) > than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > perfect "10". > But Joy, some men who are a 1 or a 2 also want a perfect 10. You would think they'd know better. I have always found that rather irritating and off-putting. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:27:42 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DC9DE.F5968E3C@rcn.com> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F894AC5.A79E8FE4@rcn.com> <3f895b05$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8961EC.CB4CCE53@rcn.com> <3f89cdc5$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB5E0.412B8243@rcn.com> <3f8b2aaf$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B3397.D3FDB591@rcn.com> <3f8b51be$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C017A.6442FD45@rcn.com> <3f8c74ac$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066256863 24556529 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 265 Lines: 10 Barbara Christian wrote: > > Target.......Tar-jay when one's pretending one's a poshy. > Bobbie Okay! I thought so, but then started thinking there COULD be a store named Tar-jay. Hmmm. Maybe a good name if there is ever a new upscale Target... -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:28:40 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DCA18.9D9B502E@rcn.com> References: <9990-3F8C72F1-256@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066256921 24556529 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 277 Lines: 11 "Jeanette S." wrote: > > That's a No-No Gordon; don't try to get a woman to change her hair > because she'll hate it no matter what and blame it on you! 8-) > Jeanette That's probably wise advice. It's hard enough to get a cut oneself that one doesn't loathe. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:29:34 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DCA4E.BA919571@rcn.com> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3f8c75a4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066256975 24556529 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 607 Lines: 27 Barbara Christian wrote: > > > > > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. > > > > > > > > > > Bobbie > > > > > > > > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they > > > > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. > > > > -- > > > > Jean B. > > > ====== > > > So do I. > > > Bobbie > > > > Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out > > looking at shirts. Ugh. > > > > -- > > Jean B. > ========== > Off you go then. > Bobbie Nah. I left, but I also checked the calendar. I don't need said shirt/blouse until the 25th! -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:31:08 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DCAAC.5E83AC5D@rcn.com> References: <3f8c753b$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031014184631.06857.00000672@mb-m20.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066257068 24556529 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 744 Lines: 27 Marian wrote: > > >> > I buy most of my jeans at Tar-jay and the majority of their jeans > >> >> are stretch jeans. > >> >> > >> >> Bobbie > >> > > >> >I don't know Tar-jay.... > >> >-- > >> >Jean B. > >> > >> Could it be Target with a French pronounciation? That's how a daughter > >> refers to it here. Dint know it was in Oz though... Marian > >======== > >You're spot on, Marian. Target here is owned by Myers now, a big Aussie > >department store, etc. Target has many of the same items as Myers but > >they're less expensive. > >Bobbie > > I owe so much to my children. Without them I would know nothing cool; be never > cool... Marian > Hehe. Leah doesn't want to be cool, so there's no hope for me! -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:37:20 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DCC20.1968ECC7@rcn.com> References: <3F8B3432.BF2A603B@rcn.com> <20031014104814.13877.00000333@mb-m29.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066257441 24556529 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 624 Lines: 23 Marian wrote: > > >Yoj wrote: > >> > >> You iron? Okay, there's one thing we don't have in common. I don't > >> even own an iron. > >> > >You have heard me say this before, but when my daughter was in > >kindergarten, she asked the teacher what an iron was.... > > > >-- > >Jean B. > > LOL! I hadn't heard you say this before, Jean.I haven't touched an iron in > decades. Marian Since then I have only touched on when I have had to iron hems or a costume for my daughter. Speaking of that, I have to look for kimonos and samurai outfits. I'd better go start a search so I don't forget. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:43:36 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DCD98.AAB75FE9@rcn.com> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B32DD.4E4C7827@rcn.com> <3f8b55d3$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0227.3AA6FFE6@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066257817 24905151 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 627 Lines: 21 Gordon wrote: > > Jean B. wrote > > > >How much of a job is that? If it were easy, I suppose Leah's dad > >might have tackled that, since he is an EE, among other things. > > I use to put my own sockets in and it's no big deal for an EE, but teh > regulations have to be known, and adhered to. > I had my house re-wired a couple of years ago and paid an electrician > (who was a neighbour), to do it. > > I had 40 additional sockets put in! > -- > Gordon I'm green with envy. Hmmm. Maybe, if it is not hideously expensive, I could get an electrician to put more outlets in some of our rooms. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:46:01 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8DCE29.A95E08D1@rcn.com> References: <3F8B3432.BF2A603B@rcn.com> <20031014104814.13877.00000333@mb-m29.aol.com> <3f8c6f40$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066257961 24905151 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 641 Lines: 17 Barbara Christian wrote: > > Doesn't it get humid where you live? If you don't iron, you must wear > synthetics, like I do in winter. I don't like ironing which is why I have > this special system of hanging clothes on the hoist, so they come out > looking almost ironed and only need a minor touch up before I put > them on. As I said, I get a heat rash if I wear a synthetic when it's > hot and humid. > Bobbie Jeans, t-shirts, and mock turtlenecks don't need ironing! I don't like synthetics. Pants are okay, although I prefer at least a blend, tops have to be cotton. I used to have some silk blouses, but I, er, sweat. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Cyber Sex (RAUNCHY JOKE) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: References: <52a6abdc.0310101213.7a3be071@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066287155 22278 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 06:52:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:52:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 955 Lines: 36 toci wrote >Gordon wrote in message news:demon.co.uk>... >> REAL LIFE CYBER SEX >> ------------------- [....] >> >> Sweetheart: [logged off] > >Do thimk Sweetheart could do better. Uh- this isn't autobiographical, >is it, Gordon? Toci LOL! On the .net or in real life? I can do better in Cyber, at least. My favourite part: > Wellhung: I'm drinking a cup of water. There, that's better. > > Sweetheart: Come back to me, lover. > > Wellhung: I'm washing the cup now. > > Sweetheart: I'm on the bed, arching for you. > > Wellhung: I'm drying the cup. Now I'm putting it back in the cabinet. You can FEEL for her, can't you? I do have a story against myself with my first partner after my wife. She looked at me in amazement, arms akimbo as I washed a couple of cups and plates we used at lunch before following her upstairs. It only happened once..... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:53:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3F8DC916.AEE353F@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066287157 22278 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 06:52:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 06:52:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1155 Lines: 37 Jean B. wrote >Gordon wrote: >> >> Jean B. wrote >> >Barbara Christian wrote: >> >> >> >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. >> >> > > >> >> > > Bobbie >> >> > >> >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they >> >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. >> >> > -- >> >> > Jean B. >> >> ====== >> >> So do I. >> >> Bobbie >> > >> >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out >> >looking at shirts. Ugh. >> > >> I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... >> I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. >> -- >> Gordon > >Actually, that's helpful of you. I frequently get NO clues from >people. It is much easier if one dispenses with the games and >says what he/she wants. Errm, actually we were walking past the shop and she spotted the shirt in the window. She surprised me with a leather jacket one time, and it bothered me that she had spent so much money. I hate it when someone buys something I don't like and I have to tell them. I don't mean verbally, it's written on my face. :-( -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:59:15 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <5jirovcimus6uitlgrf6ivqmacj27job2d@4ax.com> References: <29291-3F8D7AFA-8@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1033 Lines: 28 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:51:06 -0500 (CDT), jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Bobbie, Bob, Eugene and Marian have traded insults enough, don't you >think? It is becoming boring sifting through all the political crap. >Think what you like, but stop trying to change the minds others of us >who are sick of this subject. Neither side will give an inch, so >please be quiet! >Jeanette I'll go along with that. However, I think if you will check you will find I start very few threads. Unless I overlooked one I can find only one thread I started that had anything to do with politics; "The California Recall and how I would vote". The rest concerned jokes. I also think you will find that I have not traded many, if any, insults. ( I suppose that depends on what you call an insult. ) You will find that I respond to political post that I find in error, or insults, my country or president. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:08:22 GMT Message-ID: <3f8de122.9959569@news.individual.net> References: <3f8c8c1d.3585255@news.individual.net> <20031015005438.29165.00000630@mb-m06.aol.com> <3f8dc1fa.1982441@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-061.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.61) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066262904 23373775 203.87.45.61 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 508 Lines: 21 On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:21:58 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:19:40 +0100, Gordon >>wrote>> >>>I wondered about lanky - one or two topics have cropped up which he >>>would have had good input..... >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>I think he is off meditating in the English countryside.... >> >He'll get hairs on his palm...... >-- >Gordon Now how do I answer that.....(busily cogitating) jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Touchers X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:08:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066262934 32.103.153.123 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:08:54 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:08:54 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 735 Lines: 33 "Gordon" wrote in message news:qBLC7OAJiRj$EwJ7@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Barbara Christian wrote > > > >I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist > > Ooooh-er! > > > so am > >fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, > > Oooooooh-errrrr! > > > and I'm also intuitive, > > AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH! > > >which is probably why I chose psychology. > > > >Bobbie > > > You don't practice it in here, I hope? > -- > Gordon > (Paranoid) >From what I've seen here and on other newsgroups, any psychologist could have a field day with them. It's amazing how revealing newsgroup posts can be, even if you're trying to hide your personality. Right, Bobbie? Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:13 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014191018.06857.00000677@mb-m20.aol.com> <1tyczbsgm690u$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8d406f$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:18:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066263501 32.103.153.123 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:18:21 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:18:21 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1647 Lines: 50 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8d406f$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > > > Since I stay at my daughter's and take most meals at her house, I don't > know > > > this from personal experience but I've read, heard from several quarters > that > > > Paris is a *lot* cheaper than London. Marian > > > > Eating out in London is horrendously expensive :( I guess my view on > Paris > > is tinged with memories of the working times I spent there. Not a city > > lover at all Marion, love open spaces and natural surroundings. I'm not > > keen on Rome or Milan either - too busy, too self-conscious, too > stressful. > > Now Venice I love! But if you are staying with your daughter in Paris you > > should feel more relaxed that staying in some posh starchy hotel. As you > > may have guessed, I hate hotels LOL > > -- > > val > ========= > I'm like you....I love open spaces and natural surroundings. Having > said that, I do enjoy going to Southbank, but essentially, that's > open spaces and natural surroundings, even though it's just > across the river from the CBD. > > Looking across the parklands from one of my favourite restaurants. > The ramp is for the City Cat. The cement along the river is the > cycle/pedestrian track. The long low building is the Art Gallery > and the Entertainment Centre. The higher one is the State Library. > The building in front of the long low building is the State Museum. > http://skyscrapers.com/re/en/im/df/112468/ > > More pictures of Southbank: > http://community.webshots.com/album/35056421sNXULX > > Bobbie Thanks for the memories, Bobbie. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <156uoxtb1ntxj.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:21:50 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066263710 32.103.153.123 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:21:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:21:50 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 741 Lines: 27 "Aries" wrote in message news:156uoxtb1ntxj.dlg@copelands.co.uk... > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:42:28 +0100, Mike Clayton scrawled: > > > In message , > > Yoj writes > >>Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much > >>more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) > >>than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > >>perfect "10". > >> > > All women are lovely, they are interesting and exciting creatures :-) > > I feel the same way about men - not the lovely bit though :) > -- > val at copelands.co.uk 15-Oct-2003 20:25:21 > http://copelands.co.uk/val So do I. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3F8DC916.AEE353F@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:22:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066263772 32.103.153.123 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:22:52 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:22:52 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1023 Lines: 39 "Jean B." wrote in message news:3F8DC916.AEE353F@rcn.com... > Gordon wrote: > > > > Jean B. wrote > > >Barbara Christian wrote: > > >> > > >> > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. > > >> > > > > >> > > Bobbie > > >> > > > >> > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they > > >> > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. > > >> > -- > > >> > Jean B. > > >> ====== > > >> So do I. > > >> Bobbie > > > > > >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out > > >looking at shirts. Ugh. > > > > > I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... > > I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. > > -- > > Gordon > > Actually, that's helpful of you. I frequently get NO clues from > people. It is much easier if one dispenses with the games and > says what he/she wants. > -- > Jean B. My kids and I usually exchanged "wish lists" at Christmastime. It makes things a lot easier for everybody. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:23:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066263819 32.103.153.123 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:23:39 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:23:39 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 610 Lines: 24 "Jean B." wrote in message news:3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com... > Yoj wrote: > > > > Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much > > more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) > > than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > > perfect "10". > > > But Joy, some men who are a 1 or a 2 also want a perfect 10. You > would think they'd know better. I have always found that rather > irritating and off-putting. > > -- > Jean B. Yes, I've noticed that too. Also, many men who are a 60 or 70 want a 20 or 30. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:31:53 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066264313 32.103.153.123 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:31:53 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:31:53 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1705 Lines: 36 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net... Gordon wrote: "Last year, Electricity cost me £236, and gas cost £226. Monthly equivs are £19.66 and £18.83 respectively. I pay bills at the end of the quarter. I don't believe in leaving money in the Utilities bank account instead of mine in summer..... I could reduce the charges by going monthly DD, but it just about offsets the advantage of the quarterly credit. Gas fired central heating and hot water via Combi boiler. Electric cooker and electric shower." *************************************** I also pay my utility bills monthly, sit down and write checks for them. I want to know what the charge is before I paythe bill. My mobil home is all electric - a/c & heat, oven and range, fridge, hot water heater, dryer, washing machine, etc. My electric bills in the summer when the a/c is on (practically 9 months out of the year) are under $90 a month; when I use the electric heater, they go much higher. Living in the country, using butane or LP gas is the only other alternative and the gas costs much more than my electric bills. Jeanette My gas and electric companies have a "level pay" plan, where they figure what my cost should be for a year and divide it by 12. I make monthly payments of the same amount. The last month, I pay more or less, whichever it takes to make it come out even. I was surprised at Gordon's figures, because I thought utilities were much higher in the UK than in the U.S. My current level pay amount is $34 per month for gas and &72 for electricity. OTOH, I do live in California, which could account for the higher electricity rates. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <86qqov488evn3n0rld4p0vhkiu3ge8iusb@4ax.com> <1ksqovsrvo81rtu33tq860dlaasa8qnfus@4ax.com> Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:45:16 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4ad8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066289880 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 4225 Lines: 102 > >>>I found the article........and it's just as shocking reading it again as it > >>>was the first three times I read it. > >>> > >>>Bobbie > >>> > >>>******** > >>>US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops > >>>Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while > >>>British are condemned as too soft > >>> > >>>US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have > >>>uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in > >>>central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who > >>>do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of > >>>palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the > >>>bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of > >>>Baghdad. > >>> > >>>Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, > >>>that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not > >>>informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim > >>>district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. > >>> > >>>For full article: > >>>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 > >>> > >>I was sceptical when this was first posted here, but..... > >> > >>Reminiscent of the Third Reich's way of dealing with French resistance > >>in WW2. :-( > > > >Well, they probably went to the master (Sharon) for a bit of guidance > >before they did that! He's full of tricks like that. > > > >Paul > > > Paul, > This is the article to which I referred in an earlier post. I was > reluctant to post it initially because, horrific as it is, I was not > sure of its authenticity. Also I didn't want it to become political > cannon-fodder. I have since seen, in a Brit ng, that this sorry > episode has been reported on the BBC, which, if their reporting is as > accurate as I remember it, adds the authenticity. > Obviously this is in direct contravention of the Geneva Convention > on the treatment of non-combatant civilians. The Convention > specifically states that it is illegal to destroy crops or the means > of lively-hood. The question now is, will the officer responsible for > the decision face a court-martial, or even the international court? > Don't hold your breath. > I feel that this action will stretch American credibility to the limit > unless it is dealt with in the appropriate manner. > Your comment re Sharon is interesting as I have seen it proposed > elsewhere that the only country to benefit from this attack on Iraq is > Israel. As there have been rumblings toward Syria, I will not be > surprised if this is the next country on the agenda, in which case, > the US will lose any respect and credibility it happens to have left. > I don't think for one minute that the UK, even under Tony Blair, > will support yet another foray into another nation. I recall another > occasion when the British military nearly mutinied against yet another > Labour PM, Harold Wilson. This was when he wanted to send British > forces into Southern Rhodesia to crush Ian Smith and was told in no > uncertain terms that brother would not fight brother, so he backed > down. > > Jan ============ Jan, like you, I waited to post the article until I was able to check its authenticity. After seeing TV coverage of the devastation as well as hearing it reported on BBC, I felt that was sufficient. I agree it is in direct contravention of the Geneva Convention. Unfortunately, this is just one of the many contraventions of the Geneva Convention which have been perpetrated by the Bush regime. Like you, I won't hold my breath about a court martial, and the Bush administration has declared that the US will not accept prosecution of US war crimes. Like you, I feel Syria will be the next country to be attacked. Bush will keep adding ME nations to his list of 'axis of evil' states in the hope that the US and Israel will rule the ME and have control of all ME oil fields. Like you, I doubt that Tony Blair will support yet another foray into a foreign nation. He wouldn't dare 'sex up' (euphemism for 'lie') more intel reports again. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <29291-3F8D7AFA-8@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:47:14 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4b4e$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066289998 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 482 Lines: 16 . > Bobbie, Bob, Eugene and Marian have traded insults enough, don't you > think? It is becoming boring sifting through all the political crap. > Think what you like, but stop trying to change the minds others of us > who are sick of this subject. Neither side will give an inch, so > please be quiet! > Jeanette ========= If you note, I have not answered insults recently. If you're not interested in political issues, then just mark the conversation read. Simple! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8cf17f$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <86qqov488evn3n0rld4p0vhkiu3ge8iusb@4ax.com> <1ksqovsrvo81rtu33tq860dlaasa8qnfus@4ax.com> Subject: Re: US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:49:58 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4bf2$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066290162 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 3696 Lines: 88 " > >>>>******** > >>>>US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops > >>>>Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while > >>>>British are condemned as too soft > >>>> > >>>>US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have > >>>>uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in > >>>>central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who > >>>>do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops. The stumps of > >>>>palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the > >>>>bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of > >>>>Baghdad. > >>>> > >>>>Farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, > >>>>that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not > >>>>informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim > >>>>district. Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods. > >>>> > >>>>For full article: > >>>>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=452375 > >>>> > >>>I was sceptical when this was first posted here, but..... > >>> > >>>Reminiscent of the Third Reich's way of dealing with French resistance > >>>in WW2. :-( > >> > >>Well, they probably went to the master (Sharon) for a bit of guidance > >>before they did that! He's full of tricks like that. > >> > >>Paul > > > > > >Paul, > > This is the article to which I referred in an earlier post. I was > >reluctant to post it initially because, horrific as it is, I was not > >sure of its authenticity. Also I didn't want it to become political > >cannon-fodder. I have since seen, in a Brit ng, that this sorry > >episode has been reported on the BBC, which, if their reporting is as > >accurate as I remember it, adds the authenticity. > > Obviously this is in direct contravention of the Geneva Convention > >on the treatment of non-combatant civilians. The Convention > >specifically states that it is illegal to destroy crops or the means > >of lively-hood. The question now is, will the officer responsible for > >the decision face a court-martial, or even the international court? > >Don't hold your breath. > >I feel that this action will stretch American credibility to the limit > >unless it is dealt with in the appropriate manner. > > Your comment re Sharon is interesting as I have seen it proposed > >elsewhere that the only country to benefit from this attack on Iraq is > >Israel. As there have been rumblings toward Syria, I will not be > >surprised if this is the next country on the agenda, in which case, > >the US will lose any respect and credibility it happens to have left. > > I don't think for one minute that the UK, even under Tony Blair, > >will support yet another foray into another nation. I recall another > >occasion when the British military nearly mutinied against yet another > >Labour PM, Harold Wilson. This was when he wanted to send British > >forces into Southern Rhodesia to crush Ian Smith and was told in no > >uncertain terms that brother would not fight brother, so he backed > >down. > > > >Jan > > > >"If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" > > Hi Jan, interesting post and analysis as always! One comment: it's > always been my belief that Iraq was attacked a) as an object lesson to > the area or b) to remove a potential threat to Israel, so I agree with > whoever suggested that possibility in another group. > > Paul ========= And oil and hegemony. BTW, the Bush admin is paying Halliburton to ship oil to Iraq. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32446-2003Oct15.html Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7sdoov8qi8112pkadbi7vt82j3trbc67af@4ax.com> <3f8cec0a$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Fed-up with Iraq war bickering Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:52:59 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4ca7$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066290344 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 11242 Lines: 208 > > >> > > >> >I agree wholeheartedly with what you said, Jan. But in my estimation > >> >the bickering isn't over Iraq only .. it's the clash of two > >> >irreconcilable ideologies. > >> > > >> >One is liberal, multilateral, internationalist, the other is > >> >conservative (in a harsher sense than what we are used to in Canada) > >> >and unilateral and nationalistic. We thought the latter had seen its > >> >day and were surprised to see it surface in such a virulent form. > >> >Maybe 9/11 did it .. it's MY only explanation for the sudden eagerness > >> >to solve all problems, no matter how complicated, by force. > >> > > >> >Paul > >> > >> > >> Interesting concept Paul, however, I see the reactions as being > >> caused simply by fear. Remember that until 9/11 any attacks on US > >> and other countries installations were in foreign lands. This could be > >> reported at supper time on CNN and be greeted with the expected > >> tut-tutting, in turn to be followed by the evening's 'entertainment'. > >> 9/11 on the other hand brought the reality of terror activities > >> right into the States which had some idea that this could never happen > >> to them. > >> Once this happened there was turmoil. For those on the left it was > >> a case of "Why do they hate us so much, we must find out and make them > >> love us." While for the right, it was a case of "Let's blow them > >> away." Basically the pacifist side driven by the fear that anything > >> they do may upset someone and make things worse and the aggressive > >> side driven by the fear that if they don't do something it will only > >> get worse. The fore-going is of course greatly simplified. > >> When I mentioned this event to my brother who was in ignorance of it > >> as he happened to be in Portugal at the time. He had seen it on TV in > >> a bar, but not speaking the language sufficiently well to follow the > >> report assumed it was advertising a new movie. His comment to me > >> was, "Tough, we've lived with that shit for 30 years." Thinking > >> about this seemingly heartless comment, I realised he was right. This > >> terrorism thing has been going on for years, but the US was in > >> isolation from it, so could ignore it. > >> Now we come to the complicated bit. I don't believe the States has > >> the psyche, for want of a better word, for peace-keeping or > >> peace-making. The whole attitude, even from the left is to attack, > >> using any excuse or ammunition available, hence the acrimony and name > >> calling. The left attacks the right for doing something, the right > >> attacks the left and the perceived enemy. Both going 'gung-ho' at it. > >> I don't believe the concept of "Softly, softly, catchee monkey" has > >> any meaning for them. By them I am referring to the government and the > >> top military brass who seem incapable of learning from other's > >> mistakes. > >> As an example of the last. During the days of the Viet-nam war, my > >> BIL as a member of the SAS went, with a team to Viet-nam to advise the > >> American military on what to do to win. This advice was based on > >> British knowledge, hard-won I might add, in Malaya. The concept was > >> the one talked about a great deal now of winning the hearts and minds > >> of the locals. The Brit approach in Malaya was one of going to a > >> village and talking to the head-man. Telling him they were aware that > >> the bandits were taking their rice and leaving them hungry and did > >> they want this to continue, they were not blaming the village for > >> feeding the communists as the villagers had no choice. If the village > >> head-man agreed that he would rather keep the rice for his own people, > >> then all he was advised to do was send someone, after the bandits had > >> left, to advise the Brits. They then pursued the bandits, set up > >> ambushes and killed them. Gradually, very gradually, they cleaned up > >> area after area by this method and had the local people on their side. > >> The American brass ignored this advice, stating they would do it their > >> way and promptly destroyed village after village, getting hate from > >> the villagers instead of assistance. The bottom line was that the > >> Brits won in Malaya while the Americans were forced to leave Viet-nam. > >> The same thing happened in Afghanistan. I read a report where some > >> US special forces, working with their Brit counter-parts had subdued > >> one of the northern areas. They were on good terms with the locals, > >> respected their traditions regarding the women and didn't use much > >> force at all. The locals then told them where the arms dumps were, > >> when the Al-quaida or the Taliban were in the area and where. In > >> short, full co-operation in return for kindness, respect and medical > >> treatment for those who needed it. > >> Then some US paratroops were assigned to the area. The special forces > >> guys briefed them on what had been going on and that all was quiet, > >> they offered to accompany the paratroop patrols as they were known to > >> the locals. I believe it was a captain in charge of the paras who > >> said, "I don't need your help, we'll do it my way." His way was to > >> kick in doors to search for weapons, even into the women's quarters, > >> which was a definite no-no. One of the special force men reported > >> that, "This arse-hole has undone 6 months of hard work in a few > >> hours." > >> I read another report recently from Iraq which I refrained from > >> posting because quite frankly it made me sick to read it. (If you are > >> interested, let me know, I'll either post it here or send it by > >> e-mail.) It seems an American officer, deciding that some local > >> farmers had not been telling all they knew, ordered the fields and > >> date-palms bull-dozed in retaliation. (Does this sound familiar?) > >> This is heartless and in direct violation of the Geneva Convention > >> regarding the treatment of civilians in occupied territories. This > >> particular officer, if the report is true, should be hauled before the > >> world court and sentenced. However, I don't see this happening, but > >> with this attitude, I can, unfortunately see nothing but disaster > >> ahead and hope that the British government will withdraw their troops > >> from this theatre. > >> I too am glad that our government did not support this ill-advised > >> adventure other than the ships we already had in the area. However, I > >> do feel that Cretien should have offered moral support and not got > >> into the Bush bashing that several of his members did. > >> > >> Sorry this is so long, but one thing seemed to lead naturally to the > >> next. > >> > >> Jan > >=========== > > Thank you, we humble colonials do our best > > >Excellent analysis! As for the points you made: > > > >* Terrorism has been going on for years, but the US was > > isolated from it, so could ignore it.............................. > >I feel the big difference was that it was a large terrorist > >attack in their country. And the general American attitude > >tends to be that they are so strong that nobody would > >dare attack their country. > > Of course, this is what I meant. Suddenly reality was thrust upon the > US, a reality that other countries had been experiencing for years. > > > >* Driven by fear..................................................... > >Instead of calming the fear and encouraging resolution > >of the trauma and PTS, the Bush regime used the fear > >and shock to institute their propaganda program in order > >to increase the fear, trauma and PTS, in order to put in > >place the Neo-Con's NPAC plan for empire-building > >and world domination by a fascist style dictatorship, > >of the world, of the US. As far as I'm concerned, > >using the trauma and fear for their mind control > >of the US population was a moral crime. > > First I'm not too sure about this PTS and trauma stuff, I've never had > it and I've had plenty of trauma. I admit I think of it in term of > yet another pseudo science to keep social workers in employment. > I don't really think the US is out for world domination in the usual > sense. I think it was a reaction to a violent attack that started the > whole ball rolling. Remember that Afghanistan was the first target, > and the US had full co-operation for that adventure. > > > >* I don't believe the States has the psyche for peace-keeping or > >peace-making............................................. > >I don't either. The psyche has developed into a penchant for > >wars, power and control and violence as the answer for > >anything. Violence is even the theme of the national anthem: > >'rocket's red flare, bombs bursting in the air......' The > >emphasis in dealing with other nations has always tended to > >be attack, control, blackmail, threaten, coerce. However, > >this is by far the worst I have ever seen it. I had hoped > >that as the US matured it would drop the frontier mentality > >and gain negotiation, diplomacy and as you say, 'Softly, > >softly, catchee monkey' skills. But, I don't see any signs > >of this happening, and it certainly won't happen while > >the wild west cowboy is in office. > > Once again I don't want to comment on President Bush. I believe he is > following the counsel of his advisors and had to do something. In > Afghanistan I think he was correct, in Iraq, no, he blew it. > > > >* Malaya & the Brits/ Vietnam & the Yanks............. > >The differences in approach have been patently obvious > >for half a century. The Brits way works, the Yank way > >creates more angst, anger and retaliation. I've been > >following the situation in Afghanistan closely and I agree > >with your assessment there as well. And, as you say, > >the same thing is happening in Iraq, and will keep getting > >worse as long as the Yanks are determined to occupy > >Iraq and usurp their oil and economy. The UN and the > >more 'mature' nations are aware of this. Even the less > >'mature' nations are aware of this. > > I think there's something deeper than oil involved. The US got all the > oil it needed from the ME without going to war. To me, that just does > not make sense. > > > >* Yank bulldozing of Iraqi date palms in retaliation........ > >I read that article too and like you was so aghast that > >it took me a day to even post it to my epals > >around the world. Shades of Nazi Germany. I > >evidently deleted it and couldn't find it again. If you > >still have it, I think you should post it. > > I held off on that one as I have explained elsewhere. > > > >* Involvement in US Iraq war...................... > >I'm proud of the Canadian government's stand > >as well, and ashamed of our participation there. > >At least we've withdrawn our troops. I agree > >that Britain should as well. > > I don't see Blair withdrawing the troops as yet, it would be an > admission of failure for him, and I don't think he likes failure. > > > > > Jan ============ Have you read the NPAC papers and strategies? You might change your mind about hegemonic agendas if you do. If you're interested, I can send you some of the documents. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8c6f40$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <20031014190006.06857.00000675@mb-m20.aol.com> <3f8ca5c1$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8d3a99$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:56:32 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4d7d$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066290557 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 513 Lines: 22 > >> It must be too dry here, my wrinkles get worse the longer I wear 'em. > >> 8-( > >> -- > >> Gordon > >========== > >One of two benefits of humidity. The other is that my skin isn't > >dry and flaky in summer. > > > >Bobbie > > > Clammy? > It feels warmer in a humid atmosphere, and that is why 80° in Spain is > comfortable and 80° in England it is sweaty. > -- > Gordon ============ Exactly. Today was 20º with very low humidity and it seemed chilly. If the humidity was up, it would seem warm. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3F8B3432.BF2A603B@rcn.com> <20031014104814.13877.00000333@mb-m29.aol.com> <3f8c6f40$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DCE29.A95E08D1@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:57:34 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4dbb$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066290619 24515 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 733 Lines: 23 > > Doesn't it get humid where you live? If you don't iron, you must wear > > synthetics, like I do in winter. I don't like ironing which is why I have > > this special system of hanging clothes on the hoist, so they come out > > looking almost ironed and only need a minor touch up before I put > > them on. As I said, I get a heat rash if I wear a synthetic when it's > > hot and humid. > > Bobbie > > Jeans, t-shirts, and mock turtlenecks don't need ironing! I don't > like synthetics. Pants are okay, although I prefer at least a > blend, tops have to be cotton. I used to have some silk blouses, > but I, er, sweat. > -- > Jean B. ========= Silk blouses are indeed very uncomfortable except in very low humidity. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:00:25 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4e66$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066290790 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1909 Lines: 42 > Gordon wrote: "Last year, Electricity cost me £236, and gas cost > £226. Monthly equivs are £19.66 and £18.83 respectively. I pay > bills at the end of the quarter. > I don't believe in leaving money in the Utilities bank account instead > of mine in summer..... > I could reduce the charges by going monthly DD, but it just about > offsets the advantage of the quarterly credit. > Gas fired central heating and hot water via Combi boiler. Electric > cooker and electric shower." > *************************************** > I also pay my utility bills monthly, sit down and write checks for them. > I want to know what the charge is before I paythe bill. My mobil home > is all electric - a/c & heat, oven and range, fridge, hot water heater, > dryer, washing machine, etc. > > My electric bills in the summer when the a/c is on (practically 9 months > out of the year) are under $90 a month; when I use the electric heater, > they go much higher. > Living in the country, using butane or LP gas is the only other > alternative and the gas costs much more than my electric bills. > Jeanette > > My gas and electric companies have a "level pay" plan, where they figure > what my cost should be for a year and divide it by 12. I make monthly > payments of the same amount. The last month, I pay more or less, > whichever it takes to make it come out even. I was surprised at > Gordon's figures, because I thought utilities were much higher in the UK > than in the U.S. My current level pay amount is $34 per month for gas > and &72 for electricity. OTOH, I do live in California, which could > account for the higher electricity rates. > > Joy ======== That sounds quite reasonable as I'm aware that electricity rates are higher in Calif. One of my epals pays over $250 month for electricity in the summer. She lives in a mobile home park and must need to keep her air con most of the time. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f8c8c1d.3585255@news.individual.net> <20031015005438.29165.00000630@mb-m06.aol.com> <3f8dc1fa.1982441@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:00:52 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4e81$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066290817 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 239 Lines: 13 > >I wondered about lanky - one or two topics have cropped up which he > >would have had good input..... > >-- > >Gordon > > I think he is off meditating in the English countryside.... > > jingles ======== I thought he might be. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:14 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Touchers Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:01:43 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4eb4$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066290868 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 666 Lines: 32 > > >I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist > > > > Ooooh-er! > > > > > so am > > >fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, > > > > Oooooooh-errrrr! > > > > > and I'm also intuitive, > > > > AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH! > > > > >which is probably why I chose psychology. > > > > > >Bobbie > > > > > You don't practice it in here, I hope? > > -- > > Gordon > > (Paranoid) > > From what I've seen here and on other newsgroups, any psychologist could > have a field day with them. It's amazing how revealing newsgroup posts > can be, even if you're trying to hide your personality. Right, Bobbie? > > Joy =========== Right! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7$ZmUCBDgPj$Ewo9@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8d3b0f$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:02:38 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4eec$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066290924 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 686 Lines: 25 "> >> I tend to avoid standing too close to people. I can find it a pleasant > >> experience for a woman to stand close to me, but I think a conversation > >> is best held at least at arms length. > >> -- > >> Gordon > >======= > >You could be right there. Mavis wouldn't like it. > >Bobbie > > > You're giving me a lotta laughs.... > Arm's length isn't enough, she can hurl an axe further than that. > > I did something soppy today, after we'd been for a walk in a wooded area > I bought us fish and chips (No, not that!) and after she got home I rang > her and told her I felt lonely when she had gone. > She larfed.... > -- > Gordon ========= What kind of laugh? Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3F8DC916.AEE353F@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:05:56 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4fb5$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066291125 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 604 Lines: 25 > > > >Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out > > > >looking at shirts. Ugh. > > > > > > > I saw some great men's shirts today. £50, but real dressy.... > > > I'm looking for M****'s present for my birthday. > > > -- > > > Gordon > > > > Actually, that's helpful of you. I frequently get NO clues from > > people. It is much easier if one dispenses with the games and > > says what he/she wants. > > -- > > Jean B. > > My kids and I usually exchanged "wish lists" at Christmastime. It makes > things a lot easier for everybody. > > Joy =========== We do too. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3f8c75a4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DCA4E.BA919571@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:06:50 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e4fe7$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066291175 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 412 Lines: 19 > > > Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out > > > looking at shirts. Ugh. > > > > > > -- > > > Jean B. > > ========== > > Off you go then. > > Bobbie > > Nah. I left, but I also checked the calendar. I don't need said > shirt/blouse until the 25th! > -- > Jean B. ========== Don't do today what you can put off til tomorrow? I know that one......and use it myself. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014191018.06857.00000677@mb-m20.aol.com> <1tyczbsgm690u$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8d406f$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1rp79u4q0hxoi$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8d6a1b$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1mft49vp5x8a9$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:08:46 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e505c$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066291292 4791 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1740 Lines: 46 > >>> I'm like you....I love open spaces and natural surroundings. Having > >>> said that, I do enjoy going to Southbank, but essentially, that's > >>> open spaces and natural surroundings, even though it's just > >>> across the river from the CBD. > >> > >>> Looking across the parklands from one of my favourite restaurants. > >>> The ramp is for the City Cat. The cement along the river is the > >>> cycle/pedestrian track. The long low building is the Art Gallery > >>> and the Entertainment Centre. The higher one is the State Library. > >>> The building in front of the long low building is the State Museum. > >>> http://skyscrapers.com/re/en/im/df/112468/ > >> > >>> More pictures of Southbank: > >>> http://community.webshots.com/album/35056421sNXULX > >> > >>> Bobbie > >> > >> Looks very clean and pretty - very much holiday atmosphere. What is the > >> mountain in the background - it looks like a mountain but maybe a large > >> hill? > >> Thanks for the links I found them interesting :) > >> -- > >> val > > ============== > > The mountain is Mt Cootha....After that there more mountains... > > the Brisbane and D'Aguiler ranges. Here's some pictures of > > Brisbane from Mt Cootha. My daughter and SIL live 5 minutes > > from Mt Cootha. We often go there for lunch. > > http://www.deadmac.com/DeadMacOld/autrip/MtCootha-scenic/html/index.html > > > You can click on the pictures to enlarge them. You can view all Brisbane and > > environs from Mt Cootha as you'll see in the pictures. The flat area the > > past Brisbane is the ocean. > > You are so lucky to live in such a beautiful part of the world - it's lovely > -- > val ========== It is beautiful but then, there's lots of beauty in England as well.... Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1eyrc1zzcjtwf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <20031014191018.06857.00000677@mb-m20.aol.com> <1tyczbsgm690u$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f8d406f$0$4791$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:09:33 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8e508b$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066291339 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1726 Lines: 51 > > > > Since I stay at my daughter's and take most meals at her house, I > don't > > know > > > > this from personal experience but I've read, heard from several > quarters > > that > > > > Paris is a *lot* cheaper than London. Marian > > > > > > Eating out in London is horrendously expensive :( I guess my view > on > > Paris > > > is tinged with memories of the working times I spent there. Not a > city > > > lover at all Marion, love open spaces and natural surroundings. I'm > not > > > keen on Rome or Milan either - too busy, too self-conscious, too > > stressful. > > > Now Venice I love! But if you are staying with your daughter in > Paris you > > > should feel more relaxed that staying in some posh starchy hotel. > As you > > > may have guessed, I hate hotels LOL > > > -- > > > val > > ========= > > I'm like you....I love open spaces and natural surroundings. Having > > said that, I do enjoy going to Southbank, but essentially, that's > > open spaces and natural surroundings, even though it's just > > across the river from the CBD. > > > > Looking across the parklands from one of my favourite restaurants. > > The ramp is for the City Cat. The cement along the river is the > > cycle/pedestrian track. The long low building is the Art Gallery > > and the Entertainment Centre. The higher one is the State Library. > > The building in front of the long low building is the State Museum. > > http://skyscrapers.com/re/en/im/df/112468/ > > > > More pictures of Southbank: > > http://community.webshots.com/album/35056421sNXULX > > > > Bobbie > > Thanks for the memories, Bobbie. > > Joy ============ I thought you might feel that way, knowing that you went to both Southbank and Mt Cootha. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:15:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <4rpmRyBHvbi$EwAT@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8b27b6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B32DD.4E4C7827@rcn.com> <3f8b55d3$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0227.3AA6FFE6@rcn.com> <3F8DCD98.AAB75FE9@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066321025 5802 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 16:17:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:17:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 869 Lines: 29 Jean B. wrote >Gordon wrote: >> >> I had 40 additional sockets put in! >> -- >> Gordon > >I'm green with envy. I started with only 12, and some of those were singles! Re-wiring was a must after 41 years, and I was lucky to get it done for £900, including an underground cable to the detached garage. The electricity authority quoted something over £2000. Sadly, he died only months after...... > Hmmm. Maybe, if it is not hideously >expensive, I could get an electrician to put more outlets in some >of our rooms. If you do - make 'em all doubles. My 'man' suggested some in odd places, like landings and hallway, but they are useful for vacuuming etc. Did someone say "What's vacuuming"? It's something to be done when the dust is so thick that you catch your head on the ceiling when you walk across the room. 8-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:29:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: <29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066321027 5802 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 16:17:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:17:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1948 Lines: 40 Yoj wrote >"Jeanette S." wrote in message >news:29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net... >Gordon wrote: "Last year, Electricity cost me £236, and gas cost >£226. Monthly equivs are £19.66 and £18.83 respectively. I pay >bills at the end of the quarter. > >My gas and electric companies have a "level pay" plan, where they figure >what my cost should be for a year and divide it by 12. I make monthly >payments of the same amount. The last month, I pay more or less, >whichever it takes to make it come out even. All such plans are 'level pay' over here. A DD which can suddenly take much more out of your account after a cold spell is unacceptable! I created spreadsheets to predict my bills by reading the meter at intervals, but I've almost given up on that, except that I use it to advise M****, who has a tighter budget, and needs to know in advance. I can check online how much our telephone bills are before they are due, but I have the philosophy that bills have to be paid and that's that. > I was surprised at >Gordon's figures, because I thought utilities were much higher in the UK >than in the U.S. My current level pay amount is $34 per month for gas >and &72 for electricity. OTOH, I do live in California, which could >account for the higher electricity rates. > Most of the comparisons you will get focus on the cost of eating out, gas for your car, and hotel accommodation, which is much higher over here. Electronic gadgets and anything like CDs are priced at the rate of $1 = £1, which is where we really get ripped off. I prefer to pay less for essential needs and more for luxuries, that's a fairer society, in my view. I won't mention free drug prescriptions, eye tests etc. :-) We pay 80% of dental charges, except for those on benefit, pregnant mums and minors, and because of this we don't get our teeth polished every time we go :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:31:47 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8c8c1d.3585255@news.individual.net> <20031015005438.29165.00000630@mb-m06.aol.com> <3f8dc1fa.1982441@news.individual.net> <3f8de122.9959569@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066321030 5802 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 16:17:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:17:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 630 Lines: 25 jingles wrote >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 23:21:58 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>jingles wrote >>>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:19:40 +0100, Gordon >>>wrote>> >>>>I wondered about lanky - one or two topics have cropped up which he >>>>would have had good input..... >>>>-- >>>>Gordon >>> >>>I think he is off meditating in the English countryside.... >>> >>He'll get hairs on his palm...... >>-- >>Gordon > >Now how do I answer that.....(busily cogitating) > >jingles > Oh dear! I just looked in my dictionary....... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Touchers Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:44:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066321032 5802 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 16:17:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:17:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1617 Lines: 51 Yoj wrote >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:qBLC7OAJiRj$EwJ7@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> Barbara Christian wrote >> > >> >I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist >> >> Ooooh-er! >> >> > so am >> >fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, >> >> Oooooooh-errrrr! >> >> > and I'm also intuitive, >> >> AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH! >> >> >which is probably why I chose psychology. >> > >> >Bobbie >> > >> You don't practice it in here, I hope? >> -- >> Gordon >> (Paranoid) > >From what I've seen here and on other newsgroups, any psychologist could >have a field day with them. It's amazing how revealing newsgroup posts >can be, even if you're trying to hide your personality. Right, Bobbie? > >Joy > I don't believe in all that psycho-analysis stuff, I rely on weight machine cards and fortune cookies. :-) I had a lady friend who read Tarot cards, and she did readings for my daughters and myself after we had been seeing each other for a few months. My daughters were quite impressed with what she told them, and I reluctantly agreed to be 'done'. When she saw the cards, and looked them up in her little book she started laughing. Blushing, she read out "Fun, sex and frivolity". It didn't need a psychologist to know that much about me - just an intelligent lady who had got to know me rather well. She always pointed out that there were different ways of interpreting the cards to suit different people, that it was all a bit of fun, and those who charged for 'readings' are charlatans....... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:49:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066321034 5802 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 16:17:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:17:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 740 Lines: 27 Yoj wrote >"Jean B." wrote in message >news:3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com... >> Yoj wrote: >> > >> > Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are >much >> > more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to >themselves) >> > than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a >> > perfect "10". >> > >> But Joy, some men who are a 1 or a 2 also want a perfect 10. You >> would think they'd know better. I have always found that rather >> irritating and off-putting. >> >> -- >> Jean B. > >Yes, I've noticed that too. Also, many men who are a 60 or 70 want a 20 >or 30. > >Joy > It's the women of 60 or 70 who scare me - I can't keep up with 'em. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:52:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3F8DC916.AEE353F@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066321037 5802 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 16:17:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:17:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 313 Lines: 10 Yoj wrote > >My kids and I usually exchanged "wish lists" at Christmastime. It makes >things a lot easier for everybody. > We had an agreed limit of £20 for gifts in the nuclear family. Christine always told me exactly what she wanted, and I always knew it would be £19.99. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:58:12 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3f8c75a4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DCA4E.BA919571@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066321040 5802 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 16:17:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:17:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1013 Lines: 36 Jean B. wrote >Barbara Christian wrote: >> >> > > > > I don't even wear knee-highs....I find them uncomfortable. >> > > > > >> > > > > Bobbie >> > > > >> > > > I only wear them when it is absolutely necessary. I think they >> > > > are okay, but I prefer socks--or nothing at all. >> > > > -- >> > > > Jean B. >> > > ====== >> > > So do I. >> > > Bobbie >> > >> > Ugh. I'm reminded that, instead of sitting here, I should be out >> > looking at shirts. Ugh. >> > >> > -- >> > Jean B. >> ========== >> Off you go then. >> Bobbie > >Nah. I left, but I also checked the calendar. I don't need said >shirt/blouse until the 25th! You girlies are dead sloppy. I'll confess that I have only one shirt outstanding which would benefit from an iron on the front edges. The other two hanging up in the lounge for three days don't look as though they need it anyway. :-) The rest are in the wardrobe, ready to wear... There is no such thing as ironing if you don't intend to do it. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:15 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:00:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <29291-3F8D7AFA-8@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> <5jirovcimus6uitlgrf6ivqmacj27job2d@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066321042 5802 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 16:17:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:17:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1098 Lines: 27 Eugene A. Calame wrote >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:51:06 -0500 (CDT), jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) wrote: > >>Bobbie, Bob, Eugene and Marian have traded insults enough, don't you >>think? It is becoming boring sifting through all the political crap. >>Think what you like, but stop trying to change the minds others of us >>who are sick of this subject. Neither side will give an inch, so >>please be quiet! >>Jeanette > >I'll go along with that. > >However, I think if you will check you will find I start very few threads. >Unless I overlooked one I can find only one thread I started that had anything >to do with politics; "The California Recall and how I would vote". The rest >concerned jokes. > >I also think you will find that I have not traded many, if any, insults. >( I suppose that depends on what you call an insult. ) > >You will find that I respond to political post that I find in error, or insults, >my country or president. > Please believe this is just a wise-crack Eugene, not a political point: "Your president - your problem". :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:29:19 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8EAB3F.A620187D@rcn.com> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3F8DC916.AEE353F@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066314560 25338881 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 460 Lines: 13 Yoj wrote: > > My kids and I usually exchanged "wish lists" at Christmastime. It makes > things a lot easier for everybody. > I'm glad I discovered such a strategy. It's easier, and everyone ends up happier. Even if *I* think what I want is obvious, it seems not to be to anyone else. My other good discovery was gift cards to books stores. I love to get them, and I assume any person I know to be a reader is happy to get one from me too. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:30:42 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8EAB92.9F0A9F6B@rcn.com> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066314643 25338881 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 853 Lines: 30 Yoj wrote: > > "Jean B." wrote in message > news:3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com... > > Yoj wrote: > > > > > > Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are > much > > > more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to > themselves) > > > than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > > > perfect "10". > > > > > But Joy, some men who are a 1 or a 2 also want a perfect 10. You > > would think they'd know better. I have always found that rather > > irritating and off-putting. > > > > -- > > Jean B. > > Yes, I've noticed that too. Also, many men who are a 60 or 70 want a 20 > or 30. > I find that odd, although you sure see it. It does make you thing the man gets what he deserves (usually)--a gold-digger. I would have no interest at all in a very young man. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:32:00 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F8EABE0.37796E12@rcn.com> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3f8c75a4$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DCA4E.BA919571@rcn.com> <3f8e4fe7$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066314720 25338881 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 253 Lines: 10 Barbara Christian wrote: > > Don't do today what you can put off til tomorrow? I know that > one......and use it myself. > Bobbie At least there are a few tomorrows. Actually, I don't put things off til the VERY last minute. Usually. -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f826800.40315317@news.individual.net> <3f82cd52$0$28898$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f83439c.2635493@news.individual.net> <3f834c78$0$28898$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <2rm6ov0mjmo7giiicis1pqhpvkg007p5au@4ax.com> <3f83791e$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <6av6ov8f204m80dv3e6v8tbsmnu67rultv@4ax.com> <8D7hb.173945$3o3.12826950@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <0EUib.788$7a4.641@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:29:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.171 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066318188 171.75.14.171 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:48 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:48 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 606 Lines: 21 "Joan F (MI)" wrote in message news:bmhonp$nbp2f$1@ID-57393.news.uni-berlin.de... > Well, I don't think there is much difference between private and government > bureaucracy. The motivation is perhaps different, but the profit motive > hasn't done much to help improve health care. > You may be right. A story in the past few days, btw, concerns Muslim women coming to the US, getting Medicare to have their babies and then returning to their countries. Not too sure what that's all about, however it does indicate that people CAN get medical care for free........ cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031014190708.06857.00000676@mb-m20.aol.com> Subject: Re: Syria X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:29:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.171 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066318189 171.75.14.171 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:49 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:49 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 577 Lines: 28 "Marian" wrote in message news:20031014190708.06857.00000676@mb-m20.aol.com... > Sinclair writes: > >> Dear Bob > >> > >> One thing for sure you did not study economics.[...] > > >That is both inaccurate and an Ad Hominim argument. You are becoming > >personal. Is that necessary? > [...] > > snort > > > >bob > > I think it is, and I agree with him. I haven't studied economics, and I'm aware > of how little I know. That's the difference between us, Bob. > Yes and no. I HAVE studied economics but I'm also aware of how little you know. GRIN bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031014115736.13877.00000343@mb-m29.aol.com> Subject: Re: Syria X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:29:50 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.171 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066318190 171.75.14.171 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:50 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:50 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 2323 Lines: 74 "Marian" wrote in message news:20031014115736.13877.00000343@mb-m29.aol.com... > >> [...] > >> >Dear Bob > >> > > >> >Bush promised in 2001 that tax cuts would produce 800,000 new jobs.He did > >> >not say in America the American economy has lost 2.7 million jobs since > >> >Bush took office, the worst economic performance since the Great > >Depression. > >> >Profits and stock market gains are enriching other nations with jobs and > >> >greedy executives with outlandish pay packets. > >> > > >> >When Bush took office, the government's ten year surplus was forecast to > >> >total $5.6 trillion > >> >Now, the ten year forecast projects a cumulative deficit of $1.1 > >trillion, a > >> >net loss of $6.7 trillion in only two years. With the exception of World > >> >Wars, this is the greatest, most rapid destruction of public wealth in > >the > >> >history of the world. > >> > > >> >The torrent of debt lines the pockets of Bush's already gorged friends > >and > >> >campaign contributors. > >> > > >> >$1.6 trillion tax cuts half of which went to the wealthiest 1% of > >Americans > >> >does not increase jobs and economic security. Shipping work out if the > >> >country does not do anything but increase the share values of > >Corporations. > >> > > >> >National debt service drags down an economy by diverting fund to debt > >> >service, China who we enrich by buying cheap goods from, does want to be > >> >repaid. This leaves the government without funds for schooling and > >medical > >> >care and of host of other people service. > >> > > >> >Sinclair > >> > >> This is so clearly the self-evident truth that Bob's denial of it verges > >on the > >> breathtaking... > >> > >You're good at these little remarks. Pity that you are incapable of > >refuting any of my comments. > > > >bob > > Sinclair puts you in the shade so effectively that any more in the way of > commentary from me is redundant. Among the very many points I made, the only one that he (mistakenly) tries to counter concerned as minor aside concerning the marketing of imported products. Some shade. So far, the only comments you've made were inane. He will surely tire of it one day though, as > you seem irredeemably uneducable... At least on the subject of economics no one has been able to refute me. bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20031014115817.13877.00000344@mb-m29.aol.com> Subject: Re: Syria X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:29:50 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.171 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066318190 171.75.14.171 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:50 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:50 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 849 Lines: 38 "Marian" wrote in message news:20031014115817.13877.00000344@mb-m29.aol.com... > >> [...] > >> >Dear Bob > >> > > >> >What codswallop. Why did UK/US demand another resolution and withdraw? > >Why > >> >if you want to enforce the resolutions Of the Security Council don't you > >> >enforce them against Israel? > >> > > >> >What proof is there that Saddam supported, funded and harboured > >terrorists. > >> >You did when it suited you. WMD is what Britain went to war for and Bush > >> >said the US was going to war for. > >> > > >> >Sinclair > >> > >> "Codswallop" is one of the finer gifts of the Brits to the language. > >Resonates > >> here, especially in response to Bob's bloviating... > > > >None of which you have ever felt capable of rebutting, I note. > > > >bob > > Ibid. > Oh how perfectly quelling!!! snort bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <%DUib.787$7a4.216@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <20031014115408.13877.00000342@mb-m29.aol.com> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:29:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.171 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066318191 171.75.14.171 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:51 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:29:51 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 545 Lines: 22 "Marian" wrote in message news:20031014115408.13877.00000342@mb-m29.aol.com... > >"Sinclair" wrote in message > >> Dear Bob > >> > >> The UN stated that it was unlawful to make war against Iraq. The United > >> States has country aided, abetted, funded and harboured terrorists. > > >Nonsense. > > > >bob > > Hardly. Osama bin Laden [Mujahadeen in Afghanistan] and Saddam Hussein > [Iran-Iraq war] ring any bells with you, Bob? "Nonsense" referred to the comment about the US and terrorism. bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Soldier suicides in Iraq/Positive picture campaign re Iraq Message-ID: <0tatov4ttao69nimfsa96c0jsnprsucvc7@4ax.com> References: <3f8cabd6$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7cepovcu87l74vktt4o4tk2mrfm9av5hqm@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:45:22 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.113.30 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066319125 64.231.113.30 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:45:25 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:45:25 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 3174 Lines: 69 On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:07:56 -0500, Eugene A. Calame wrote: >On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:15:22 +1000, "Barbara Christian" > wrote: > >> >>"Army probes soldier suicides: >>Alarmed by the number of suicides among soldiers in Iraq, the Army has asked >>a team of doctors to determine whether the stress of combat and long >>deployments is contributing to the deaths. In the past seven months, at >>least 11 soldiers and three Marines have committed suicide in Iraq, military >>officials say. That is an annual rate of 17 per 100,000.The numbers suggest >>the rate in Iraq is above normal." > >From the article >------------------------------ >In the past seven months, at least 11 soldiers and three Marines have committed >suicide in Iraq, military officials say. That is an annual rate of 17 per >100,000. The Navy also is investigating one possible suicide. And about a dozen >other Army deaths are under investigation and could include suicides. > >The numbers suggest the rate in Iraq is above normal. Last year, the military >services reported 8 to 9 suicides per 100,000 people. The Army rate is usually >higher, 10 to 13 per 100,000. That mirrors the rate for the same age group in >the general population >------------------------------- > >The numbers given indicates the suicide rate for the Army has doubled from about >1 per month per 100,000 in normal times to 2 for those stationed in Iraq. > >I would be surprised if the suicide rate of Army personal was not higher in Iraq >than it is at home and normal times. > Eugene, I find it rather disconcerting that you would blithely accept the peace-time suicide rate within the US armed forces and then go on to say you would be surprised if that rate did not rise in Iraq. The numbers on their own offer no information. What would be informative would be a break-down of these figures into how many suicides are regular force and how many are from the reserves. If the majority are from the regular force then I would say that your country has a major problem on its hands. If the majority are from the reserve force, then there are several possibilities. Why, in your opinion, would service in Iraq prompt an increase in suicides? >> >>For full article: >>http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-10-13-army-suicides-usat_x.htm >> >>This contrasts with this propaganda stunt: >>"Many soldiers, same letter. Newspapers around U.S. get identical missives >>from Iraq. They appear to be part of a campaign to present a positive >>picture of US occupation." >>For full article: >>http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml >>Bobbie >My reading of the article in The Olympian indicates that most of the soldiers >contracted by GNS (GANNETT NEWS SERVICE ) confirmed the content of the letter. Regarding the letters. To my mind this is a blatant propaganda stunt, instigated by the colonel to enhance his own reputation. Similar to the pathetic 'rescue' of America's latest 'heroine' Jessica Lynch. An episode that has made the US military the laughing-stock of the civilized world. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:06:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: mike_clayton@ntlworld.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m25-mp1.cvx1-b.edi.dial.ntli.net (62.253.8.25) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066324222 25960117 62.253.8.25 (16 [155445]) X-Orig-Path: ntlworld.com!mike_clayton User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U (<7HYqYgwAhFAThcIO+B2jMFZ6dA>) Status: O Content-Length: 972 Lines: 26 In message , Anita Carter writes > >"Mike Clayton" wrote in message >news:WsvQ2gPEcYj$EwdF@ntlworld.com... >> In message , >> Yoj writes >> >Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much >> >more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) >> >than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a >> >perfect "10". >> > >> All women are lovely, they are interesting and exciting creatures :-) > >Ooooooohhhhh a man that appreciates us, but not so much of the >creatures' - hello Mike :-)) Would you prefer objects? :-)) Hiya Anita :-) -- Mike Clayton Reputation is what other people know about you. Honour is what you know about yourself. Lois McMaster Bujold, "A Civil Campaign", 1999 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8AB57C.E29E752A@rcn.com> <3f8abac3$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8B2EDB.CBB6F6AE@rcn.com> <3f8b513d$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8C0152.8D09A23D@rcn.com> <3F8DC916.AEE353F@rcn.com> <3F8EAB3F.A620187D@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:07:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.197 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066324038 32.103.153.197 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:07:18 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:07:18 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 638 Lines: 22 "Jean B." wrote in message news:3F8EAB3F.A620187D@rcn.com... > Yoj wrote: > > > > My kids and I usually exchanged "wish lists" at Christmastime. It makes > > things a lot easier for everybody. > > > I'm glad I discovered such a strategy. It's easier, and everyone > ends up happier. Even if *I* think what I want is obvious, it > seems not to be to anyone else. My other good discovery was gift > cards to books stores. I love to get them, and I assume any > person I know to be a reader is happy to get one from me too. > > -- > Jean B. Yes, we have been known to use those as well, since we're all readers. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com> <3F8EAB92.9F0A9F6B@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:08:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.197 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066324114 32.103.153.197 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:08:34 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:08:34 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1200 Lines: 43 "Jean B." wrote in message news:3F8EAB92.9F0A9F6B@rcn.com... > Yoj wrote: > > > > "Jean B." wrote in message > > news:3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com... > > > Yoj wrote: > > > > > > > > Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are > > much > > > > more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to > > themselves) > > > > than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > > > > perfect "10". > > > > > > > But Joy, some men who are a 1 or a 2 also want a perfect 10. You > > > would think they'd know better. I have always found that rather > > > irritating and off-putting. > > > > > > -- > > > Jean B. > > > > Yes, I've noticed that too. Also, many men who are a 60 or 70 want a 20 > > or 30. > > > I find that odd, although you sure see it. It does make you thing > the man gets what he deserves (usually)--a gold-digger. I would > have no interest at all in a very young man. > > > -- > Jean B. I agree. They can be fun to look at, but for conversation, companionship, and anything else, give me a mature man any time. Although the young ones can be handy if you want furniture moved, for instance. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:16 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8e4e66$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <0jAjb.3710$Ec1.327838@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:11:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.197 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066324284 32.103.153.197 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:11:24 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:11:24 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2266 Lines: 60 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8e4e66$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > > Gordon wrote: "Last year, Electricity cost me £236, and gas cost > > £226. Monthly equivs are £19.66 and £18.83 respectively. I pay > > bills at the end of the quarter. > > I don't believe in leaving money in the Utilities bank account instead > > of mine in summer..... > > I could reduce the charges by going monthly DD, but it just about > > offsets the advantage of the quarterly credit. > > Gas fired central heating and hot water via Combi boiler. Electric > > cooker and electric shower." > > *************************************** > > I also pay my utility bills monthly, sit down and write checks for them. > > I want to know what the charge is before I paythe bill. My mobil home > > is all electric - a/c & heat, oven and range, fridge, hot water heater, > > dryer, washing machine, etc. > > > > My electric bills in the summer when the a/c is on (practically 9 months > > out of the year) are under $90 a month; when I use the electric heater, > > they go much higher. > > Living in the country, using butane or LP gas is the only other > > alternative and the gas costs much more than my electric bills. > > Jeanette > > > > My gas and electric companies have a "level pay" plan, where they figure > > what my cost should be for a year and divide it by 12. I make monthly > > payments of the same amount. The last month, I pay more or less, > > whichever it takes to make it come out even. I was surprised at > > Gordon's figures, because I thought utilities were much higher in the UK > > than in the U.S. My current level pay amount is $34 per month for gas > > and &72 for electricity. OTOH, I do live in California, which could > > account for the higher electricity rates. > > > > Joy > ======== > That sounds quite reasonable as I'm aware that electricity rates are > higher in Calif. One of my epals pays over $250 month for electricity > in the summer. She lives in a mobile home park and must need to > keep her air con most of the time. > > Bobbie That is terrible! She may have an electric stove, too, which would add to the cost. My cooking range is gas. Where in California does your friend live? Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <5oAjb.3718$Ec1.329242@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:16:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.197 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066324609 32.103.153.197 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:16:49 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:16:49 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2832 Lines: 68 "Gordon" wrote in message news:RF5MaaACclj$EwPa@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > >"Jeanette S." wrote in message > >news:29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net... > >Gordon wrote: "Last year, Electricity cost me £236, and gas cost > >£226. Monthly equivs are £19.66 and £18.83 respectively. I pay > >bills at the end of the quarter. > > > >My gas and electric companies have a "level pay" plan, where they figure > >what my cost should be for a year and divide it by 12. I make monthly > >payments of the same amount. The last month, I pay more or less, > >whichever it takes to make it come out even. > > All such plans are 'level pay' over here. A DD which can suddenly take > much more out of your account after a cold spell is unacceptable! > I created spreadsheets to predict my bills by reading the meter at > intervals, but I've almost given up on that, except that I use it to > advise M****, who has a tighter budget, and needs to know in advance. > > I can check online how much our telephone bills are before they are due, > but I have the philosophy that bills have to be paid and that's that. > > > I was surprised at > >Gordon's figures, because I thought utilities were much higher in the UK > >than in the U.S. My current level pay amount is $34 per month for gas > >and &72 for electricity. OTOH, I do live in California, which could > >account for the higher electricity rates. > > > Most of the comparisons you will get focus on the cost of eating out, > gas for your car, and hotel accommodation, which is much higher over > here. Electronic gadgets and anything like CDs are priced at the rate > of $1 = £1, which is where we really get ripped off. I prefer to pay > less for essential needs and more for luxuries, that's a fairer society, > in my view. I won't mention free drug prescriptions, eye tests etc. > :-) > > We pay 80% of dental charges, except for those on benefit, pregnant mums > and minors, and because of this we don't get our teeth polished every > time we go :-) > -- > Gordon I agree it is more fair if necessities are priced lowest and luxuries higher. I have to pay all my dental charges, but I can't complain too much. I've needed only one filling in the last several years, Medicare pays about 80% of most of my medical costs, and I have great prescription drug insurance. When my late husband and I visited England 18 years ago, I read a newspaper article about the high energy costs there. I can't remember the figure, but the article stated that the annual cost was some huge amount for every man, woman, and child in England. It came out to a lot more than what we were paying. I'm glad things have leveled out some, and that energy is more reasonable in England now. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:18:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com> <3F8EAB92.9F0A9F6B@rcn.com> Reply-To: mike_clayton@ntlworld.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m25-mp1.cvx1-b.edi.dial.ntli.net (62.253.8.25) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066324825 25520174 62.253.8.25 (16 [155445]) X-Orig-Path: ntlworld.com!mike_clayton User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U (<7HYqYgwAhFAThcIO+B2jMFZ6dA>) Status: O Content-Length: 486 Lines: 14 In message , Yoj writes >I agree. They can be fun to look at, but for conversation, >companionship, and anything else, give me a mature man any time. >Although the young ones can be handy if you want furniture moved, for >instance. > An older man can make the earth move for you -- Mike Clayton Dragons slain, damsels ravished, evil doers vanquished http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8cae8a$0$15970$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8ced45$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Touchers X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:18:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.197 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066324699 32.103.153.197 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:18:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:18:19 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1890 Lines: 62 "Gordon" wrote in message news:tV7D+yALqlj$EwJ4@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > >"Gordon" wrote in message > >news:qBLC7OAJiRj$EwJ7@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > >> Barbara Christian wrote > >> > > >> >I probably am aware for several reasons.....I'm a psychologist > >> > >> Ooooh-er! > >> > >> > so am > >> >fully aware of nuances, body language, etc, > >> > >> Oooooooh-errrrr! > >> > >> > and I'm also intuitive, > >> > >> AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH! > >> > >> >which is probably why I chose psychology. > >> > > >> >Bobbie > >> > > >> You don't practice it in here, I hope? > >> -- > >> Gordon > >> (Paranoid) > > > >From what I've seen here and on other newsgroups, any psychologist could > >have a field day with them. It's amazing how revealing newsgroup posts > >can be, even if you're trying to hide your personality. Right, Bobbie? > > > >Joy > > > I don't believe in all that psycho-analysis stuff, I rely on weight > machine cards and fortune cookies. :-) > > I had a lady friend who read Tarot cards, and she did readings for my > daughters and myself after we had been seeing each other for a few > months. My daughters were quite impressed with what she told them, > and I reluctantly agreed to be 'done'. > When she saw the cards, and looked them up in her little book she > started laughing. Blushing, she read out "Fun, sex and frivolity". > > It didn't need a psychologist to know that much about me - just an > intelligent lady who had got to know me rather well. > > She always pointed out that there were different ways of interpreting > the cards to suit different people, that it was all a bit of fun, and > those who charged for 'readings' are charlatans....... > -- > Gordon I think those things can be fun, if you don't take them too seriously. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:24:03 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <9cmtov4tu596gghbqavdia4120o3nn7jb5@4ax.com> References: <8D7hb.173945$3o3.12826950@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <0EUib.788$7a4.641@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 2191 Lines: 54 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:29:48 GMT, "Bob Thomas" wrote: >"Joan F (MI)" wrote in message >news:bmhonp$nbp2f$1@ID-57393.news.uni-berlin.de... >> Well, I don't think there is much difference between private and >government >> bureaucracy. The motivation is perhaps different, but the profit motive >> hasn't done much to help improve health care. >> >You may be right. A story in the past few days, btw, concerns Muslim women >coming to the US, getting Medicare to have their babies and then returning >to their countries. > >Not too sure what that's all about, however it does indicate that people CAN >get medical care for free........ > >cheers > >bob > > > No doubt about it. In most cases if you do not have the funds medicaid, not medicare, will pay the bills. The process varies a bit from state to state. http://cms.hhs.gov/medicaid/eligibility/criteria.asp http://www.cairco.org/econ/econ.html ( to be taken with a bit of skepticism ) ---------------------------------------- In a recent year in Colorado, the state's emergency Medicaid program paid an estimated $30 million in hospital and physician delivery costs for about 6,000 illegal immigrant mothers - average of $5,000 per baby. Those 6,000 births to illegal aliens represent 40% of the births paid for by Medicaid in Colorado. Those 6,000 babies immediately became U.S. citizens and qualified for full Medicaid services, with a cost yet to be tabulated. An illegal alien mother only has to say she is "undocumented" in order to receive immediate - and free - medical care. Denver Health is now proposing that taxpayers approve a bond issue to pay for a bigger obstetrics unit. The present unit was built for 1,600 births a year, yet last year alone it handled 3,500. ---------------------------------------------- The real prize of the above is not the care. It is the fact that the child is a citizen of the United States of America and that can be a help in getting legal residence status in the United States of America for the parents. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: New (to me) spam scams X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:34:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.114 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066329272 32.103.153.114 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:34:32 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:34:32 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 787 Lines: 21 I had two interesting offers in today's e-mail. In fact, they were the only e-mail I had this morning. The first is a letter informing me that I am a winner of the Grand Global Promo Lottery in the Netherlands, and that my share of the winnings is $550,000. They don't even ask for a bank account number - just my mailing address and the name the check should be made out to. So far, that is. The second is a letter from the Executive Director of FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS AND HOUSING (FMWH), country unspecified, offering me a 10% cut if I'll help launder kick-backs. They actually use the term kick-backs in the letter. On one hand, we have stories of really, really stupid crooks. OTOH, we have crooks with imagination, who are looking for really, really stupid people. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com> <3F8EAB92.9F0A9F6B@rcn.com> Subject: Re: Women in Power X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:35:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.114 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066329308 32.103.153.114 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:35:08 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:35:08 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 670 Lines: 21 "Mike Clayton" wrote in message news:IoNXXELPLtj$Ewvo@ntlworld.com... > In message , > Yoj writes > >I agree. They can be fun to look at, but for conversation, > >companionship, and anything else, give me a mature man any time. > >Although the young ones can be handy if you want furniture moved, for > >instance. > > > > An older man can make the earth move for you > -- > Mike Clayton > Dragons slain, damsels ravished, evil doers vanquished > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton And that's better than moving furniture - usually. ;-) Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:50:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7$ZmUCBDgPj$Ewo9@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f8d3b0f$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8e4eec$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066331168 10924 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 19:06:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:06:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 841 Lines: 30 Barbara Christian wrote > >"> >> I tend to avoid standing too close to people. I can find it a >pleasant >> >> experience for a woman to stand close to me, but I think a conversation >> >> is best held at least at arms length. >> >> -- >> >> Gordon >> >======= >> >You could be right there. Mavis wouldn't like it. >> >Bobbie >> > >> You're giving me a lotta laughs.... >> Arm's length isn't enough, she can hurl an axe further than that. >> >> I did something soppy today, after we'd been for a walk in a wooded area >> I bought us fish and chips (No, not that!) and after she got home I rang >> her and told her I felt lonely when she had gone. >> She larfed.... >> -- >> Gordon >========= >What kind of laugh? >Bobbie > Ha Ha Ha Ha kind of laugh. Probably "I've heard it all before"....... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:51:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com> <3F8EAB92.9F0A9F6B@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066331169 10924 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 19:06:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:06:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 491 Lines: 14 Mike Clayton wrote >In message , >Yoj writes >>I agree. They can be fun to look at, but for conversation, >>companionship, and anything else, give me a mature man any time. >>Although the young ones can be handy if you want furniture moved, for >>instance. >> > >An older man can make the earth move for you Only if he's got his feet braced against something. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Rebuilding Iraq Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:55:06 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-81-241.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.81.241) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066330507 26095737 68.79.81.241 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 2149 Lines: 52 In Marian's absence I guess I'd better take up the slack. | October 16, 2003 | Daily Mislead Archive Six in Ten Iraqis Unemployed, but U. S. Subcontractors Hire Cheap Migrant Laborers Even though seven million Iraqis are unemployed1, U.S. sub-contractors are rebuilding the Iraqi infrastructure with cheap migrant labor from South Asia.2 The use of Asian laborers is at odds with President Bush's emphasis on the importance of Iraqis taking on the job themselves. Bush has said the key to "rebuilding a democratic and prosperous Iraq is the Iraqi people themselves."3 Paul Bremer, the Bush appointee overseeing post-war Iraq, likewise has talked of the need to turn around the country's 60 percent unemployment rate and "to fix a very sick economy."4 However, the head of the Iraqi Jobless Association, Kasem Hadi, is critical of the Bush Administration's lack of progress. "Following four rounds of talks with [Bremer's] representatives, we made no progress regarding the unemployment crisis,"5 Hadi says. Meanwhile, U.S. Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, one of Bremer's colleagues, has raised questions about the reliability of foreign workers. "You find [them] in out-of-the-way corners taking 15 minute naps," she notes.6 At the same time, officials of the Iraqi Governing Council are concerned that large American contractors, including Halliburton and Bechtel, may be inflating the cost of the reconstruction projects. The Iraqi governors told members of the U.S. Congress that Iraqi companies could be doing the work at 10 percent of the cost.7 Sources: 1. "Iraq: 7 Million Jobless Persons," Asia Africa Intelligence Wire, InfoProd, 8/27/03. 2. "Contractors in Iraq Accused of Importing Labour and Exporting Profit," Financial Times/UK, 10/14/03. 3. Presidential Radio Address, 7/23/03. 4. Interview of Paul Bremer by Tom Brokaw, NBC Nightly News, 7/14/03. 5. "Iraq: 7 Million Jobless Persons," Asia Africa Intelligence Wire, InfoProd, 8/27/03. 6. "Contractors in Iraq Accused of Importing Labour and Exporting Profit," Financial Times/UK, 10/14/03. 7. Letter to OMB Director Joshua Bolten from Rep. Henry Waxman, 9/30/03. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Soldier suicides in Iraq/Positive picture campaign re Iraq Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:17:39 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <1dptovoo7ham0kb7d8hkd1mc3grnnrm793@4ax.com> References: <3f8cabd6$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7cepovcu87l74vktt4o4tk2mrfm9av5hqm@4ax.com> <0tatov4ttao69nimfsa96c0jsnprsucvc7@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 4875 Lines: 108 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:45:22 -0400, Jan wrote: >On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:07:56 -0500, Eugene A. Calame > wrote: > >>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:15:22 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Army probes soldier suicides: >>>Alarmed by the number of suicides among soldiers in Iraq, the Army has asked >>>a team of doctors to determine whether the stress of combat and long >>>deployments is contributing to the deaths. In the past seven months, at >>>least 11 soldiers and three Marines have committed suicide in Iraq, military >>>officials say. That is an annual rate of 17 per 100,000.The numbers suggest >>>the rate in Iraq is above normal." >> >>From the article >>------------------------------ >>In the past seven months, at least 11 soldiers and three Marines have committed >>suicide in Iraq, military officials say. That is an annual rate of 17 per >>100,000. The Navy also is investigating one possible suicide. And about a dozen >>other Army deaths are under investigation and could include suicides. >> >>The numbers suggest the rate in Iraq is above normal. Last year, the military >>services reported 8 to 9 suicides per 100,000 people. The Army rate is usually >>higher, 10 to 13 per 100,000. That mirrors the rate for the same age group in >>the general population >>------------------------------- >> >>The numbers given indicates the suicide rate for the Army has doubled from about >>1 per month per 100,000 in normal times to 2 for those stationed in Iraq. >> >>I would be surprised if the suicide rate of Army personal was not higher in Iraq >>than it is at home and normal times. >> > >Eugene, > I find it rather disconcerting that you would blithely accept the >peace-time suicide rate within the US armed forces and then go on to >say you would be surprised if that rate did not rise in Iraq. >The numbers on their own offer no information. What would be >informative would be a break-down of these figures into how many >suicides are regular force and how many are from the reserves. > If the majority are from the regular force then I would say that >your country has a major problem on its hands. If the majority are >from the reserve force, then there are several possibilities. >Why, in your opinion, would service in Iraq prompt an increase in >suicides? I accept what is so. We live in a world where suicide is a fact. Nothing I can do will change that fact nor can I really understand it. In war stress and the handling of fear, even the fear of being fearful, becomes great; therefore I would expect the suicide rate to go up. This will happen if you are a regular or reserve military member. > >>> >>>For full article: >>>http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-10-13-army-suicides-usat_x.htm >>> >>>This contrasts with this propaganda stunt: >>>"Many soldiers, same letter. Newspapers around U.S. get identical missives >>>from Iraq. They appear to be part of a campaign to present a positive >>>picture of US occupation." >>>For full article: >>>http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml >>>Bobbie >>My reading of the article in The Olympian indicates that most of the soldiers >>contracted by GNS (GANNETT NEWS SERVICE ) confirmed the content of the letter. >Regarding the letters. To my mind this is a blatant propaganda stunt, >instigated by the colonel to enhance his own reputation. Similar to >the pathetic 'rescue' of America's latest 'heroine' Jessica Lynch. An >episode that has made the US military the laughing-stock of the >civilized world. > >Jan I also believe a public affaires officer was behind the letter. The point being though most of the soldiers did sign the letter and agreed with its content according to the Gannett News Service. ------------------------ "It's not clear who wrote the letter or organized sending it to soldiers' hometown papers" "Sgt. Christopher Shelton, who signed a letter that ran in the Snohomish Herald, said Friday that his platoon sergeant had distributed the letter and asked soldiers for the names of their hometown newspapers. Soldiers were asked to sign the letter if they agreed with it, said Shelton, whose shoulder was wounded during an ambush earlier this year. "Everything it said is dead accurate. We've done a really good job," he said by phone from Italy, where he was preparing to return to Iraq" ----------------------- The letter was propaganda designed to get some positive news about the Iraq struggle back home. Keep in mind that propaganda is not necessarily lies. Propaganda, a noun, is, "information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause". "http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=propaganda -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Anita Carter" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:57:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-225-48-174.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com (80.225.48.174) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066334270 25872338 80.225.48.174 (16 [125170]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: O Content-Length: 1146 Lines: 34 "Mike Clayton" wrote in message news:HKy0vXDxAtj$EwNf@ntlworld.com... > In message , Anita Carter > writes > > > >"Mike Clayton" wrote in message > >news:WsvQ2gPEcYj$EwdF@ntlworld.com... > >> In message , > >> Yoj writes > >> >Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much > >> >more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) > >> >than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a > >> >perfect "10". > >> > > >> All women are lovely, they are interesting and exciting creatures :-) > > > >Ooooooohhhhh a man that appreciates us, but not so much of the > >creatures' - hello Mike :-)) > > Would you prefer objects? :-)) > > Hiya Anita :-) Ummmmmmm ...... no I have no objections to objects - but they can be objectionable :-))) How about leaving creatures off the end of the sentence looks so much better! -- Anita Smile: it costs nothing, it creates much. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Soldier suicides in Iraq/Positive picture campaign re Iraq Message-ID: References: <3f8cabd6$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7cepovcu87l74vktt4o4tk2mrfm9av5hqm@4ax.com> <0tatov4ttao69nimfsa96c0jsnprsucvc7@4ax.com> <1dptovoo7ham0kb7d8hkd1mc3grnnrm793@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:47:31 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.249.93 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066337253 65.95.249.93 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:47:33 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:47:33 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 8078 Lines: 159 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:17:39 -0500, Eugene A. Calame wrote: >On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:45:22 -0400, Jan wrote: > >>On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:07:56 -0500, Eugene A. Calame >> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:15:22 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Army probes soldier suicides: >>>>Alarmed by the number of suicides among soldiers in Iraq, the Army has asked >>>>a team of doctors to determine whether the stress of combat and long >>>>deployments is contributing to the deaths. In the past seven months, at >>>>least 11 soldiers and three Marines have committed suicide in Iraq, military >>>>officials say. That is an annual rate of 17 per 100,000.The numbers suggest >>>>the rate in Iraq is above normal." >>> >>>From the article >>>------------------------------ >>>In the past seven months, at least 11 soldiers and three Marines have committed >>>suicide in Iraq, military officials say. That is an annual rate of 17 per >>>100,000. The Navy also is investigating one possible suicide. And about a dozen >>>other Army deaths are under investigation and could include suicides. >>> >>>The numbers suggest the rate in Iraq is above normal. Last year, the military >>>services reported 8 to 9 suicides per 100,000 people. The Army rate is usually >>>higher, 10 to 13 per 100,000. That mirrors the rate for the same age group in >>>the general population >>>------------------------------- >>> >>>The numbers given indicates the suicide rate for the Army has doubled from about >>>1 per month per 100,000 in normal times to 2 for those stationed in Iraq. >>> >>>I would be surprised if the suicide rate of Army personal was not higher in Iraq >>>than it is at home and normal times. >>> >> >>Eugene, >> I find it rather disconcerting that you would blithely accept the >>peace-time suicide rate within the US armed forces and then go on to >>say you would be surprised if that rate did not rise in Iraq. >>The numbers on their own offer no information. What would be >>informative would be a break-down of these figures into how many >>suicides are regular force and how many are from the reserves. >> If the majority are from the regular force then I would say that >>your country has a major problem on its hands. If the majority are >>from the reserve force, then there are several possibilities. >>Why, in your opinion, would service in Iraq prompt an increase in >>suicides? > >I accept what is so. We live in a world where suicide is a fact. Nothing I can >do will change that fact nor can I really understand it. > >In war stress and the handling of fear, even the fear of being fearful, becomes >great; therefore I would expect the suicide rate to go up. This will happen if >you are a regular or reserve military member. > I agree there is nothing to be done about the suicide rate among the civilian population, I further agree that there is nothing anyone can do to change that. However, what is being discussed is suicide within the military, this is, I think is a vastly different thing. True there is stress and fear, in fact the person who states he/she is not afraid is either a liar, a fool, or both. Notwithstanding that, the regular soldier/sailor/airman is aware of this, knows it's going to happen, is, or should be, trained with that in mind, and lives with it. So I don't see this as a reason. As I stated in a previous post, if this is normal with the regular force, there is something badly amiss in the selection or training processes. In the case of the reservist however, the picture changes dramatically. Your average reservist I believe, based on experience, joins for one or more reasons. They want to earn a bit of spare money, they want to be in uniform, they want to get a feel for the military before making it a career, it becomes a hobby or they feel that they are serving their country by being at least partly trained in case of a national emergency. They are prepared to accept the week-end exercises, and possibly a two week or more training session in the summer. What they do not expect is to be yanked from their civilian occupation and sent a few thousand miles away to be cannon-fodder. Once this happens, I can see several areas of grave concern coming into play. Can their wives/girl-friends take the separation? Is there sufficient money to maintain the life-style they had prior to being drafted? If not, how do they maintain their homes and how do they feed their families? Add the above to the already acknowledged fear associated with an active duty posting and you have, in my opinion, a recipe for disaster. However, if the government guarantees that these concerns will be attended to, then other reasons have to examined. >> >>>> >>>>For full article: >>>>http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-10-13-army-suicides-usat_x.htm >>>> >>>>This contrasts with this propaganda stunt: >>>>"Many soldiers, same letter. Newspapers around U.S. get identical missives >>>>from Iraq. They appear to be part of a campaign to present a positive >>>>picture of US occupation." >>>>For full article: >>>>http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml >>>>Bobbie >>>My reading of the article in The Olympian indicates that most of the soldiers >>>contracted by GNS (GANNETT NEWS SERVICE ) confirmed the content of the letter. >>Regarding the letters. To my mind this is a blatant propaganda stunt, >>instigated by the colonel to enhance his own reputation. Similar to >>the pathetic 'rescue' of America's latest 'heroine' Jessica Lynch. An >>episode that has made the US military the laughing-stock of the >>civilized world. >> >>Jan > > >I also believe a public affaires officer was behind the letter. The point >being though most of the soldiers did sign the letter and agreed with its >content according to the Gannett News Service. When operating under the military hierarchy, it is extremely difficult for the non-commissioned ranks to ignore a 'request' from a senior officer, especially if they wish to be promoted. You won't find this written anywhere, but it is a fact of life. I would be more interested in seeing what the troops themselves have to say in their letters home. Bearing in mind that they will also down-play any fear and nastiness as they don't want others to worry. I've done it myself. I think it is the fact that the letter in question was a form-letter which rather debased the message. I'm sure the majority of people think they *are* doing a good thing and take great pride in what they are doing to help restore peace and prosperity to the area. It's the method of delivery I find somewhat obnoxious. > >------------------------ >"It's not clear who wrote the letter or organized sending it to soldiers' >hometown papers" > >"Sgt. Christopher Shelton, who signed a letter that ran in the Snohomish Herald, >said Friday that his platoon sergeant had distributed the letter and asked >soldiers for the names of their hometown newspapers. Soldiers were asked to sign >the letter if they agreed with it, said Shelton, whose shoulder was wounded >during an ambush earlier this year. > >"Everything it said is dead accurate. We've done a really good job," he said by >phone from Italy, where he was preparing to return to Iraq" >----------------------- > >The letter was propaganda designed to get some positive news about the Iraq >struggle back home. Keep in mind that propaganda is not necessarily lies. >Propaganda, a noun, is, "information that is spread for the purpose of >promoting some cause". "http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=propaganda Agreed, it is unfortunate though that the word could not have been spread to report the same thing in the troops own style in their letters home. Perhaps a foot-note to ask parents or wives to pass the letter on to the local paper, spelling and grammar mistakes included. This would have made it very believable. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Rebuilding Iraq Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:47:31 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.249.93 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066337253 65.95.249.93 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:47:33 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:47:33 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 3145 Lines: 68 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:55:06 -0400, "Joan F \(MI\)" wrote: >In Marian's absence I guess I'd better take up the slack. | > > > >October 16, 2003 | Daily Mislead Archive >Six in Ten Iraqis Unemployed, but U. S. Subcontractors Hire Cheap Migrant >Laborers > >Even though seven million Iraqis are unemployed1, U.S. sub-contractors are >rebuilding the Iraqi infrastructure with cheap migrant labor from South >Asia.2 The use of Asian laborers is at odds with President Bush's emphasis >on the importance of Iraqis taking on the job themselves. > >Bush has said the key to "rebuilding a democratic and prosperous Iraq is the >Iraqi people themselves."3 Paul Bremer, the Bush appointee overseeing >post-war Iraq, likewise has talked of the need to turn around the country's >60 percent unemployment rate and "to fix a very sick economy."4 > >However, the head of the Iraqi Jobless Association, Kasem Hadi, is critical >of the Bush Administration's lack of progress. "Following four rounds of >talks with [Bremer's] representatives, we made no progress regarding the >unemployment crisis,"5 Hadi says. > >Meanwhile, U.S. Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, one of Bremer's >colleagues, has raised questions about the reliability of foreign workers. >"You find [them] in out-of-the-way corners taking 15 minute naps," she >notes.6 > >At the same time, officials of the Iraqi Governing Council are concerned >that large American contractors, including Halliburton and Bechtel, may be >inflating the cost of the reconstruction projects. The Iraqi governors told >members of the U.S. Congress that Iraqi companies could be doing the work at >10 percent of the cost.7 > >Sources: >1. "Iraq: 7 Million Jobless Persons," Asia Africa Intelligence Wire, >InfoProd, 8/27/03. >2. "Contractors in Iraq Accused of Importing Labour and Exporting Profit," >Financial Times/UK, 10/14/03. >3. Presidential Radio Address, 7/23/03. >4. Interview of Paul Bremer by Tom Brokaw, NBC Nightly News, 7/14/03. >5. "Iraq: 7 Million Jobless Persons," Asia Africa Intelligence Wire, >InfoProd, 8/27/03. >6. "Contractors in Iraq Accused of Importing Labour and Exporting Profit," >Financial Times/UK, 10/14/03. >7. Letter to OMB Director Joshua Bolten from Rep. Henry Waxman, 9/30/03. > > Joan, This is confession time. When I first read your introduction below, "In Marian's absence I guess I'd better take up the slack. " my first reaction was "Oh God no, please spare us". However, on reading the article I was pleased to see that it was not a self-opiniated Bush government rant by some media hack, but rather a well written piece of information complete with sources. Thank you for this, but please stay away from the op-ed crap. What can one add to the article, it is concise and displays the apparent contempt these companies have for not only the Iraqis but also for their President and the policies he wants to follow. Perhaps it's time for someone high up in government to start reaming out a few civilian contractors to change things around. Yet another way of not winning friends. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:17 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:49:40 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066338193 996 194.222.103.116 (16 Oct 2003 21:03:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:03:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1275 Lines: 38 Anita Carter wrote > >"Mike Clayton" wrote in message >news:HKy0vXDxAtj$EwNf@ntlworld.com... >> In message , Anita Carter >> writes >> > >> >"Mike Clayton" wrote in message >> >news:WsvQ2gPEcYj$EwdF@ntlworld.com... >> >> In message , >> >> Yoj writes >> >> >Men, whatever they look like, who find all women attractive, are much >> >> >more attractive to me (as long as they keep their hands to themselves) >> >> >than handsome jerks who can't be bothered with anyone who isn't a >> >> >perfect "10". >> >> > >> >> All women are lovely, they are interesting and exciting creatures :-) >> > >> >Ooooooohhhhh a man that appreciates us, but not so much of the >> >creatures' - hello Mike :-)) >> >> Would you prefer objects? :-)) >> >> Hiya Anita :-) > >Ummmmmmm ...... no I have no objections to objects - but they can be >objectionable :-))) >How about leaving creatures off the end of the sentence looks so much >better! >-- Can I borrow it? "All things bright and beautiful, all creatures great and small" -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Rebuilding Iraq Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:06:26 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 399 Lines: 13 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:55:06 -0400, "Joan F \(MI\)" wrote: >In Marian's absence I guess I'd better take up the slack. | Only if you want to continue the bickering as declared in the threads, "Fed-up with Iraq war bickering" and "Enough dialogue". -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Rebuilding Iraq Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:27:02 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 3348 Lines: 79 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:55:06 -0400, "Joan F \(MI\)" wrote: >In Marian's absence I guess I'd better take up the slack. | > > > >October 16, 2003 | Daily Mislead Archive >Six in Ten Iraqis Unemployed, but U. S. Subcontractors Hire Cheap Migrant >Laborers > >Even though seven million Iraqis are unemployed1, U.S. sub-contractors are >rebuilding the Iraqi infrastructure with cheap migrant labor from South >Asia.2 The use of Asian laborers is at odds with President Bush's emphasis >on the importance of Iraqis taking on the job themselves. > >Bush has said the key to "rebuilding a democratic and prosperous Iraq is the >Iraqi people themselves."3 Paul Bremer, the Bush appointee overseeing >post-war Iraq, likewise has talked of the need to turn around the country's >60 percent unemployment rate and "to fix a very sick economy."4 > >However, the head of the Iraqi Jobless Association, Kasem Hadi, is critical >of the Bush Administration's lack of progress. "Following four rounds of >talks with [Bremer's] representatives, we made no progress regarding the >unemployment crisis,"5 Hadi says. > >Meanwhile, U.S. Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, one of Bremer's >colleagues, has raised questions about the reliability of foreign workers. >"You find [them] in out-of-the-way corners taking 15 minute naps," she >notes.6 > >At the same time, officials of the Iraqi Governing Council are concerned >that large American contractors, including Halliburton and Bechtel, may be >inflating the cost of the reconstruction projects. The Iraqi governors told >members of the U.S. Congress that Iraqi companies could be doing the work at >10 percent of the cost.7 > >Sources: >1. "Iraq: 7 Million Jobless Persons," Asia Africa Intelligence Wire, >InfoProd, 8/27/03. >2. "Contractors in Iraq Accused of Importing Labour and Exporting Profit," >Financial Times/UK, 10/14/03. >3. Presidential Radio Address, 7/23/03. >4. Interview of Paul Bremer by Tom Brokaw, NBC Nightly News, 7/14/03. >5. "Iraq: 7 Million Jobless Persons," Asia Africa Intelligence Wire, >InfoProd, 8/27/03. >6. "Contractors in Iraq Accused of Importing Labour and Exporting Profit," >Financial Times/UK, 10/14/03. >7. Letter to OMB Director Joshua Bolten from Rep. Henry Waxman, 9/30/03. > > > > > ----------------------- #3 quote complete. Our greatest ally in the vital work of stabilizing and rebuilding a democratic and prosperous Iraq is the Iraqi people, themselves. Our goal is to turn over authority to Iraqis as quickly as possible. Coalition authorities are training Iraqi police forces to help patrol Iraqi cities and villages. Ambassador Bremer and General Abizaid are working to establish as quickly as possible a new Iraqi civilian defense force to help protect supply convoys and power plants and ammunition depots. Offices have been established in major Iraqi cities to recruit soldiers for a new Iraqi army that will defend the people of Iraq, instead of terrorizing them. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030723-1.html ------------------------------ I don't think the president was talking about dirt work with these words. In addition it was an address from the Rose Garden and not a radio address. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:09:26 +0100 Organization: The One and Only Sender: valnot@copelands.com Message-ID: <196kse74r39qp$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F8DC96F.2A5C0BD6@rcn.com> <3F8EAB92.9F0A9F6B@rcn.com> Reply-To: valnot@copelands.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m16-mp1.cvx2-b.lng.dial.ntli.net (62.252.180.16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066342263 26037676 62.252.180.16 (16 [144431]) Keywords: Troy bites people ! User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.6.1 (26eb39e9.226.270) X-Face: #Jf},iT~*a7YRJW9eD+']S2{'UmZ|%7bUJ?.b0{O&-Mos6h!py8iGS.GCI&A9._X9H%r`vM M^7p)tKu-.fHLpOqUM>PpJuz*k$#|HiewJPVc3,"=4"%2i6oSUfY{gxRwS3IYmlTQc*S2!@!/s_ftd wRHAxvYM.G*}}d.diigh}av?0WkTOVY[gL4-v9p;Og\_l~#@"Lgrd X-Hi: PMJ :)) X-No-Archive: yes Status: O Content-Length: 656 Lines: 19 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:51:39 +0100, Gordon scribbled: > Mike Clayton wrote >>In message , >>Yoj writes >>>I agree. They can be fun to look at, but for conversation, >>>companionship, and anything else, give me a mature man any time. >>>Although the young ones can be handy if you want furniture moved, for >>>instance. >>> >> >>An older man can make the earth move for you > Only if he's got his feet braced against something. Ah, the voice of experience ;) -- val at copelands.co.uk 16-Oct-2003 23:09:14 http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Rebuilding Iraq Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:17:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-81-241.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.81.241) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066342669 25959414 68.79.81.241 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 1378 Lines: 38 Dirt work? Not sure what you mean by that phrase. Do you mean work that is too low paid and tedious for most people to want to do it? From what I have read there are lots of Iraqis who would be happy to have any paying job. "Eugene A. Calame" wrote in message news:fa2uov85u5h1qeufq3vsjr9mu9fsnjoehs@4ax.com... #3 quote complete. Our greatest ally in the vital work of stabilizing and rebuilding a democratic and prosperous Iraq is the Iraqi people, themselves. Our goal is to turn over authority to Iraqis as quickly as possible. Coalition authorities are training Iraqi police forces to help patrol Iraqi cities and villages. Ambassador Bremer and General Abizaid are working to establish as quickly as possible a new Iraqi civilian defense force to help protect supply convoys and power plants and ammunition depots. Offices have been established in major Iraqi cities to recruit soldiers for a new Iraqi army that will defend the people of Iraq, instead of terrorizing them. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030723-1.html ------------------------------ I don't think the president was talking about dirt work with these words. In addition it was an address from the Rose Garden and not a radio address. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Soldier suicides in Iraq/Positive picture campaign re Iraq Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:20:21 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3f8cabd6$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7cepovcu87l74vktt4o4tk2mrfm9av5hqm@4ax.com> <0tatov4ttao69nimfsa96c0jsnprsucvc7@4ax.com> <1dptovoo7ham0kb7d8hkd1mc3grnnrm793@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 8246 Lines: 170 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:47:31 -0400, Jan wrote: (CUT) >>>Eugene, >>> I find it rather disconcerting that you would blithely accept the >>>peace-time suicide rate within the US armed forces and then go on to >>>say you would be surprised if that rate did not rise in Iraq. >>>The numbers on their own offer no information. What would be >>>informative would be a break-down of these figures into how many >>>suicides are regular force and how many are from the reserves. >>> If the majority are from the regular force then I would say that >>>your country has a major problem on its hands. If the majority are >>>from the reserve force, then there are several possibilities. >>>Why, in your opinion, would service in Iraq prompt an increase in >>>suicides? >> >>I accept what is so. We live in a world where suicide is a fact. Nothing I can >>do will change that fact nor can I really understand it. >> >>In war stress and the handling of fear, even the fear of being fearful, becomes >>great; therefore I would expect the suicide rate to go up. This will happen if >>you are a regular or reserve military member. >> >I agree there is nothing to be done about the suicide rate among the >civilian population, I further agree that there is nothing anyone can >do to change that. However, what is being discussed is suicide within >the military, this is, I think is a vastly different thing. It is no difference except the stress of overseas deployments and combat. Soldiers are human. >True there is stress and fear, in fact the person who states he/she is >not afraid is either a liar, a fool, or both. >Notwithstanding that, the regular soldier/sailor/airman is aware of >this, knows it's going to happen, is, or should be, trained with that >in mind, and lives with it. So I don't see this as a reason. As I >stated in a previous post, if this is normal with the regular force, >there is something badly amiss in the selection or training processes. >In the case of the reservist however, the picture changes >dramatically. Your average reservist I believe, based on experience, >joins for one or more reasons. They want to earn a bit of spare >money, they want to be in uniform, they want to get a feel for the >military before making it a career, it becomes a hobby or they feel >that they are serving their country by being at least partly trained >in case of a national emergency. They are prepared to accept the >week-end exercises, and possibly a two week or more training session >in the summer. What they do not expect is to be yanked from their >civilian occupation and sent a few thousand miles away to be >cannon-fodder. They should be prepared. They are told what to expect. That is what they are for; to backup the regular military. How do I know this. I was in the Air National Guard ( 209th weather Flight ) and the Air Force Reserve (Radio/Navigation) for a total of twenty years ( Including 4 years of regular Air Force). The Air National Guard unit was to be deployed to Fort Hood, with the 49th Armored Division, first and then to Germany if needed. Most of the two weeks summer training was spent on exercises using maps of Germany. >Once this happens, I can see several areas of grave concern coming >into play. Can their wives/girl-friends take the separation? Is >there sufficient money to maintain the life-style they had prior to >being drafted? If not, how do they maintain their homes and how do >they feed their families? Add the above to the already acknowledged >fear associated with an active duty posting and you have, in my >opinion, a recipe for disaster. >However, if the government guarantees that these concerns will be >attended to, then other reasons have to examined. For the most part they are. Jobs, employment, are retained by law. Pay, and services, in some companies continues at the same rate minus what they get from the military. Not ideal but not a disaster. The reservists get the same pay as regulars which is not near as bad as it was in the 50's. > >>> >>>>> >>>>>For full article: >>>>>http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-10-13-army-suicides-usat_x.htm >>>>> >>>>>This contrasts with this propaganda stunt: >>>>>"Many soldiers, same letter. Newspapers around U.S. get identical missives >>>>>from Iraq. They appear to be part of a campaign to present a positive >>>>>picture of US occupation." >>>>>For full article: >>>>>http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml >>>>>Bobbie >>>>My reading of the article in The Olympian indicates that most of the soldiers >>>>contracted by GNS (GANNETT NEWS SERVICE ) confirmed the content of the letter. >>>Regarding the letters. To my mind this is a blatant propaganda stunt, >>>instigated by the colonel to enhance his own reputation. Similar to >>>the pathetic 'rescue' of America's latest 'heroine' Jessica Lynch. An >>>episode that has made the US military the laughing-stock of the >>>civilized world. >>> >>>Jan >> >> >>I also believe a public affaires officer was behind the letter. The point >>being though most of the soldiers did sign the letter and agreed with its >>content according to the Gannett News Service. > >When operating under the military hierarchy, it is extremely difficult >for the non-commissioned ranks to ignore a 'request' from a senior >officer, especially if they wish to be promoted. You won't find this >written anywhere, but it is a fact of life. I would be more >interested in seeing what the troops themselves have to say in their >letters home. Bearing in mind that they will also down-play any fear >and nastiness as they don't want others to worry. I've done it >myself. I think it is the fact that the letter in question was a >form-letter which rather debased the message. I'm sure the majority >of people think they *are* doing a good thing and take great pride in >what they are doing to help restore peace and prosperity to the area. >It's the method of delivery I find somewhat obnoxious. ----------------------------- Some truth in that but when the Gannett News Service checked they confirmed the contents of the letter. I doubt there was any Senior Non-commisssioned, or commissioned, officer around when they were interviewed. Then you should find form letters to congressmen, encouraged by special interest concerns, equally obnoxious. >> >>------------------------ >>"It's not clear who wrote the letter or organized sending it to soldiers' >>hometown papers" >> >>"Sgt. Christopher Shelton, who signed a letter that ran in the Snohomish Herald, >>said Friday that his platoon sergeant had distributed the letter and asked >>soldiers for the names of their hometown newspapers. Soldiers were asked to sign >>the letter if they agreed with it, said Shelton, whose shoulder was wounded >>during an ambush earlier this year. >> >>"Everything it said is dead accurate. We've done a really good job," he said by >>phone from Italy, where he was preparing to return to Iraq" >>----------------------- >> >>The letter was propaganda designed to get some positive news about the Iraq >>struggle back home. Keep in mind that propaganda is not necessarily lies. >>Propaganda, a noun, is, "information that is spread for the purpose of >>promoting some cause". "http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=propaganda > > Agreed, it is unfortunate though that the word could not have been >spread to report the same thing in the troops own style in their >letters home. Perhaps a foot-note to ask parents or wives to pass the >letter on to the local paper, spelling and grammar mistakes included. >This would have made it very believable. One of he things the military does, or at least use to do, is send information to members home town newspapers for publication. It was of course always favorable. Usually announcing the completion of some training requirement or promotion. I see nothing wrong or unusual about the letter. I certainly do not see the negative connotations of the letter I feel the posting of it to this group was supposed to generate. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Rebuilding Iraq Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:39:16 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 802 Lines: 21 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:17:47 -0400, "Joan F \(MI\)" wrote: >Dirt work? Not sure what you mean by that phrase. Do you mean work that is >too low paid and tedious for most people to want to do it? From what I have >read there are lots of Iraqis who would be happy to have any paying job Yes "dirt work" is hard, backbreaking, tedious, low paid work that many people will not do. However, It is often skilled, dangerous, well paid work that takes special training to do and many will not do that type either. As far as, "there are lots of Iraqis who would be happy to have any paying job", I hear the same story about unemployed workers in the USA. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8e4e66$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <0jAjb.3710$Ec1.327838@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:58:54 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f8f20c8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066344648 5469 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 509 Lines: 17 > > That sounds quite reasonable as I'm aware that electricity rates are > > higher in Calif. One of my epals pays over $250 month for electricity > > in the summer. She lives in a mobile home park and must need to > > keep her air con most of the time. > > > > Bobbie > > That is terrible! She may have an electric stove, too, which would add > to the cost. My cooking range is gas. Where in California does your > friend live? > > Joy =========== She's all electric. She lives in Santa Clarita. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Soldier suicides in Iraq/Positive picture campaign re Iraq Message-ID: References: <3f8cabd6$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7cepovcu87l74vktt4o4tk2mrfm9av5hqm@4ax.com> <0tatov4ttao69nimfsa96c0jsnprsucvc7@4ax.com> <1dptovoo7ham0kb7d8hkd1mc3grnnrm793@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:02:05 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.112.173 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066359726 64.231.112.173 (Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:02:06 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:02:06 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 9588 Lines: 192 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:20:21 -0500, Eugene A. Calame wrote: >On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:47:31 -0400, Jan wrote: > >(CUT) >>>>Eugene, >>>> I find it rather disconcerting that you would blithely accept the >>>>peace-time suicide rate within the US armed forces and then go on to >>>>say you would be surprised if that rate did not rise in Iraq. >>>>The numbers on their own offer no information. What would be >>>>informative would be a break-down of these figures into how many >>>>suicides are regular force and how many are from the reserves. >>>> If the majority are from the regular force then I would say that >>>>your country has a major problem on its hands. If the majority are >>>>from the reserve force, then there are several possibilities. >>>>Why, in your opinion, would service in Iraq prompt an increase in >>>>suicides? >>> >>>I accept what is so. We live in a world where suicide is a fact. Nothing I can >>>do will change that fact nor can I really understand it. >>> >>>In war stress and the handling of fear, even the fear of being fearful, becomes >>>great; therefore I would expect the suicide rate to go up. This will happen if >>>you are a regular or reserve military member. >>> >>I agree there is nothing to be done about the suicide rate among the >>civilian population, I further agree that there is nothing anyone can >>do to change that. However, what is being discussed is suicide within >>the military, this is, I think is a vastly different thing. > >It is no difference except the stress of overseas deployments and combat. >Soldiers are human. Let's agree to disagree on this one. > >>True there is stress and fear, in fact the person who states he/she is >>not afraid is either a liar, a fool, or both. >>Notwithstanding that, the regular soldier/sailor/airman is aware of >>this, knows it's going to happen, is, or should be, trained with that >>in mind, and lives with it. So I don't see this as a reason. As I >>stated in a previous post, if this is normal with the regular force, >>there is something badly amiss in the selection or training processes. >>In the case of the reservist however, the picture changes >>dramatically. Your average reservist I believe, based on experience, >>joins for one or more reasons. They want to earn a bit of spare >>money, they want to be in uniform, they want to get a feel for the >>military before making it a career, it becomes a hobby or they feel >>that they are serving their country by being at least partly trained >>in case of a national emergency. They are prepared to accept the >>week-end exercises, and possibly a two week or more training session >>in the summer. What they do not expect is to be yanked from their >>civilian occupation and sent a few thousand miles away to be >>cannon-fodder. > >They should be prepared. They are told what to expect. That is what they are >for; to backup the regular military. The operative word here is *should*. Do you not agree that there is a vast difference between the regular force and the active reserve, (I am assuming here that the Air National Guard is active and liable to be called up as in Iraq, while the Air Force Reserve is passive and only called up in dire emergency) After 7 years regular service and another 15 or so in the active reserve of Britain and Canada I am convinced that while the reservist is ahead of the game compared to a new rookie, the reservist needs much more training to bring him/her up to regular force standards. I always found that the physical level alone needed to be boosted as the training periods did not offer enough time to take care of that side of things. Two nights a week and the odd week-end just did not cut it as far as getting people ready for combat duty at short notice. > >How do I know this. I was in the Air National Guard ( 209th weather Flight ) >and the Air Force Reserve (Radio/Navigation) for a total of twenty years ( >Including 4 years of regular Air Force). > >The Air National Guard unit was to be deployed to Fort Hood, with the 49th >Armored Division, first and then to Germany if needed. Most of the two weeks >summer training was spent on exercises using maps of Germany. > > >>Once this happens, I can see several areas of grave concern coming >>into play. Can their wives/girl-friends take the separation? Is >>there sufficient money to maintain the life-style they had prior to >>being drafted? If not, how do they maintain their homes and how do >>they feed their families? Add the above to the already acknowledged >>fear associated with an active duty posting and you have, in my >>opinion, a recipe for disaster. >>However, if the government guarantees that these concerns will be >>attended to, then other reasons have to examined. > >For the most part they are. Jobs, employment, are retained by law. Pay, and >services, in some companies continues at the same rate minus what they get from >the military. Not ideal but not a disaster. The reservists get the same pay as >regulars which is not near as bad as it was in the 50's. Thanks for this information, I was not aware of it. As you state, not ideal but not as disastrous as I imagined. There must be more reasons behind the suicides though, it will be interesting to read the reports if they are ever released. > >> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>For full article: >>>>>>http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-10-13-army-suicides-usat_x.htm >>>>>> >>>>>>This contrasts with this propaganda stunt: >>>>>>"Many soldiers, same letter. Newspapers around U.S. get identical missives >>>>>>from Iraq. They appear to be part of a campaign to present a positive >>>>>>picture of US occupation." >>>>>>For full article: >>>>>>http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml >>>>>>Bobbie >>>>>My reading of the article in The Olympian indicates that most of the soldiers >>>>>contracted by GNS (GANNETT NEWS SERVICE ) confirmed the content of the letter. >>>>Regarding the letters. To my mind this is a blatant propaganda stunt, >>>>instigated by the colonel to enhance his own reputation. Similar to >>>>the pathetic 'rescue' of America's latest 'heroine' Jessica Lynch. An >>>>episode that has made the US military the laughing-stock of the >>>>civilized world. >>>> >>>>Jan >>> >>> >>>I also believe a public affaires officer was behind the letter. The point >>>being though most of the soldiers did sign the letter and agreed with its >>>content according to the Gannett News Service. >> >>When operating under the military hierarchy, it is extremely difficult >>for the non-commissioned ranks to ignore a 'request' from a senior >>officer, especially if they wish to be promoted. You won't find this >>written anywhere, but it is a fact of life. I would be more >>interested in seeing what the troops themselves have to say in their >>letters home. Bearing in mind that they will also down-play any fear >>and nastiness as they don't want others to worry. I've done it >>myself. I think it is the fact that the letter in question was a >>form-letter which rather debased the message. I'm sure the majority >>of people think they *are* doing a good thing and take great pride in >>what they are doing to help restore peace and prosperity to the area. >>It's the method of delivery I find somewhat obnoxious. > >----------------------------- > >Some truth in that but when the Gannett News Service checked they confirmed the >contents of the letter. I doubt there was any Senior Non-commisssioned, or >commissioned, officer around when they were interviewed. > >Then you should find form letters to congressmen, encouraged by special interest >concerns, equally obnoxious. Oh, believe me I do. > > > >>> >>>------------------------ >>>"It's not clear who wrote the letter or organized sending it to soldiers' >>>hometown papers" >>> >>>"Sgt. Christopher Shelton, who signed a letter that ran in the Snohomish Herald, >>>said Friday that his platoon sergeant had distributed the letter and asked >>>soldiers for the names of their hometown newspapers. Soldiers were asked to sign >>>the letter if they agreed with it, said Shelton, whose shoulder was wounded >>>during an ambush earlier this year. >>> >>>"Everything it said is dead accurate. We've done a really good job," he said by >>>phone from Italy, where he was preparing to return to Iraq" >>>----------------------- >>> >>>The letter was propaganda designed to get some positive news about the Iraq >>>struggle back home. Keep in mind that propaganda is not necessarily lies. >>>Propaganda, a noun, is, "information that is spread for the purpose of >>>promoting some cause". "http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=propaganda >> >> Agreed, it is unfortunate though that the word could not have been >>spread to report the same thing in the troops own style in their >>letters home. Perhaps a foot-note to ask parents or wives to pass the >>letter on to the local paper, spelling and grammar mistakes included. >>This would have made it very believable. > >One of he things the military does, or at least use to do, is send information >to members home town newspapers for publication. It was of course always >favorable. Usually announcing the completion of some training requirement or >promotion. > >I see nothing wrong or unusual about the letter. I certainly do not see the >negative connotations of the letter I feel the posting of it to this group was >supposed to generate. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Soldier suicides in Iraq/Positive picture campaign re Iraq Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:00:28 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3f8cabd6$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7cepovcu87l74vktt4o4tk2mrfm9av5hqm@4ax.com> <0tatov4ttao69nimfsa96c0jsnprsucvc7@4ax.com> <1dptovoo7ham0kb7d8hkd1mc3grnnrm793@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 2509 Lines: 56 On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:02:05 -0400, Jan wrote: >> >>They should be prepared. They are told what to expect. That is what they are >>for; to backup the regular military. > >The operative word here is *should*. Do you not agree that there is a >vast difference between the regular force and the active reserve, (I >am assuming here that the Air National Guard is active and liable to >be called up as in Iraq, while the Air Force Reserve is passive and >only called up in dire emergency) >After 7 years regular service and another 15 or so in the active >reserve of Britain and Canada I am convinced that while the reservist >is ahead of the game compared to a new rookie, the reservist needs >much more training to bring him/her up to regular force standards. >I always found that the physical level alone needed to be boosted as >the training periods did not offer enough time to take care of that >side of things. Two nights a week and the odd week-end just did not >cut it as far as getting people ready for combat duty at short notice. >> They do go through extensive training before being sent into action. While I was in the Air National Guard, 209th Weather Flight, we were attached to the Texas Army nation Guard 49th Armored Division. The Texas Army National Guard unit would have replaced a regular Army Armored Division, at Ft. Hood, Texas, that had been sent into action. After some intensive, full time, training the Texas Army Guard unit would then have been called forward if needed. That was during the cold war and of course missions must have changed greatly since then. The National Guard and Reserves are about the same except the National Guard units are at the beck and call of the Governor of the respective states for emergencies. I also think the National Guard units must be called up as a unit and not as individuals. Individuals can volunteer for regular duty if they wish. Reservists can be called up as individuals if they happen to possess a skill that is needed. Both National Guard and Reservist units have a cadre of full time personnel to manage the day to day needs of the units. They are all federal employees and members of the unit. I do have to qualify my knowledge on the operation of the units as dated. It has been some time since I have served. Time marched on when I stopped to rest. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: I want to puke Date: 17 Oct 2003 09:55:52 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.152.135.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.152.135) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066384552 26878091 67.74.152.135 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 144 Lines: 6 God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 -- Dink From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f89cb45$0$15134$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <5vakov0aladlj228pblk2hvkj0to0k8033@4ax.com> <3f8b25dc$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8d6c6e$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:31:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.27.63 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066404664 171.75.27.63 (Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:31:04 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:31:04 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 589 Lines: 28 "Barbara Christian" wrote in message news:3f8d6c6e$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > One can't debate rationally with any radical. > > > > > I've frequently thought that about you. grin > > > > cheers > > > > bob > ========= > Sponge calling the blotter an old soak? Care to be a bit more specific? What "radical" positions have I taken? My position, all along, has been that it isn't necessary to define those with whom YOU disagree as evil. > Or reaction formation....projecting your > radical traits on to another. > ROTFLMAO. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2hvgovoii2qksrfi88ncn8dclpjek8c5tn@4ax.com> <29291-3F8D7703-5@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: a lawless cowboy X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:31:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.27.63 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066404665 171.75.27.63 (Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:31:05 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:31:05 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 1393 Lines: 40 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:29291-3F8D7703-5@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Eugene wrote: "The economy is doing very well and improving much to the > horror of the left. > Other domestic woes are well, domestic woes. They have been with us > always and will always be with us. > California had many and just recently took steps to correct one of their > woes. There will be more. > No need for breast beating and saber rattling, President Bush has the > support of the people. > The terrorist provided all the incentives needed to generate > flag-waving. > Endless wars depends on the terrorist and the efforts of nations to > eliminate them." > *************************************** > I really don't think the "lefts" are horror stricken by improving > economy. Well, when it comes to it, I agree. OTH, it does reduce their chances at election. Besides, it hasn't improved that much, if at all. Housing starts are UP. Retail sales are UP. The market is UP, Waayy UP. Unemployment is DOWN. Whaddaya want, egg in your beer?? As far as > California goes, it is beyond redemption, in my opinion. I pity Arnold > S. trying to do anything about Calif. woes. That is a state where if you > are Godless and mindless, you will prevail! Ruined, absolutely ruined, > in my opnion. Jeanette > Yeah, but it HAS been good theater. grin cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7CY2LKBNiSh$EwrN@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <29287-3F8D7D52-51@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <_WTjb.232$np1.188@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:31:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.27.63 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066404666 171.75.27.63 (Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:31:06 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:31:06 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 965 Lines: 30 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:29287-3F8D7D52-51@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Someone wrote: "George Bush the daddy headed up the drive to put Saddam > out of Kuwait. Clinton had nothing to do with that." > ************************************* > That is correct! That war?? was sanctioned by the former George Bush. "Sanctioned"????? It was pursued by Bush I. It was sanctioned by the UN. > It might have been because of the oil there, and probablywas. I think you are correct. Oil is a vital national resource. It was/is not in our interest to let one irresponsible regime gain control of all or most of it. I can > remember hearing and seeing the then President Bush speaking about > "multiple points of lght", or something like that. And watching the war > or whatever it was called, wih each side shooting missiles at each > other, for endless hours. Clinton had nothing to do with it. True. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:18 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-laundry rooms Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:44:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: <29293-3F8D6E59-1@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f8e4e66$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <0jAjb.3710$Ec1.327838@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f8f20c8$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066406180 17980 194.222.103.116 (17 Oct 2003 15:56:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:56:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 170 Lines: 8 Barbara Christian wrote >>=========== >She's all electric. How many kilowatts? Wonder what it would be like to kiss her....... -- Sparky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:13:51 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.116.34 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066407233 64.231.116.34 (Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:13:53 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:13:53 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1470 Lines: 28 On 17 Oct 2003 09:55:52 GMT, Dink wrote: >God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden >By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) >http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 "What the Lord giveth, the Lord can take away". Or words to that effect. Perhaps God wants Allah to win. "Onward Christian Soldiers", but not too fast in front. Dink, While I do not agree with war I am also opposed to the types of smear campaigns which seem to be a popular ploy with some US media types. I can look at these rantings in the media and shrug. The man does, after all, have a private life. If he thinks Allah is the great satan, so be it. Perhaps, in view of his position he could have exercised a modicum of restraint. However, the fact that he let his fervour run away with his mouth should not be held against him. Surely the fact of whether or not he can do his job is more important than his religious beliefs. If he starts issuing US troops with little, or big red crosses to wear on their chests, I will become concerned, until that time however why not wait and see if he can perform the duties assigned to him. Would the media be interested in censorship perhaps? If applied to General Officers, no matter how stupid they appear, it should also apply to the media. Pause for a moment and consider if *your* life would stand being examined under the media microscope. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-119-212.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.119.212) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066409950 25767710 68.79.119.212 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 315 Lines: 13 You mean it was God who messed up the Florida votes? I would never have guessed! "Dink" wrote in message news:Xns94173228FEAD9frijoles@130.133.1.4... God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 -- Dink From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 17 Oct 2003 18:24:48 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.152.184.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.152.184) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066415088 24741741 67.74.152.184 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 2093 Lines: 42 Jan wrote in news:ks30pvciu5g24vddp9a6u1ar2hbjiu6ci6@4ax.com: > On 17 Oct 2003 09:55:52 GMT, Dink wrote: > >>God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden >>By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) >>http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 > > "What the Lord giveth, the Lord can take away". Or words to that > effect. Perhaps God wants Allah to win. "Onward Christian > Soldiers", but not too fast in front. > Dink, > While I do not agree with war I am also opposed to the types of smear > campaigns which seem to be a popular ploy with some US media types. > I can look at these rantings in the media and shrug. The man does, > after all, have a private life. If he thinks Allah is the great > satan, so be it. Perhaps, in view of his position he could have > exercised a modicum of restraint. However, the fact that he let his > fervour run away with his mouth should not be held against him. > Surely the fact of whether or not he can do his job is more important > than his religious beliefs. If he starts issuing US troops with > little, or big red crosses to wear on their chests, I will become > concerned, until that time however why not wait and see if he can > perform the duties assigned to him. > Would the media be interested in censorship perhaps? If applied to > General Officers, no matter how stupid they appear, it should also > apply to the media. Pause for a moment and consider if *your* life > would stand being examined under the media microscope. > Jan > "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" If my god ever tells me she has any favorites among humankind, I will trade her in for a different god. -- N 30.21, W 97.81 "Show me two villages, one embowered in trees and blazing with all the glories of October, the other a merely trivial and treeless waste, or with only a single tree or two for suicides, and I shall be sure that in the latter will be found the most starved and bigoted religionists and the most desperate drinkers." ~~ Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:31:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: mike_clayton@ntlworld.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m576-mp1.cvx1-a.man.dial.ntli.net (62.252.198.64) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066422486 26376575 62.252.198.64 (16 [155445]) X-Orig-Path: ntlworld.com!mike_clayton User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U (<7HYqYgwAhFAThcIO+B2jMFZ6dA>) Status: O Content-Length: 468 Lines: 21 In message , Anita Carter writes >objectionable :-))) >How about leaving creatures off the end of the sentence looks so much >better! >-- Okay :-) All women are lovely, they are interesting and exciting :-) > Anita >Smile: it costs nothing, it creates much. > > > -- Mike Clayton Dragons slain, damsels ravished, evil doers vanquished http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Anita Carter" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:57:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f873c59.3367528@news.individual.net> <3f87a629$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f87c589$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8b27f6$0$5469$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-225-26-208.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com (80.225.26.208) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066424247 26921539 80.225.26.208 (16 [125170]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: O Content-Length: 626 Lines: 28 "Mike Clayton" wrote in message news:ZzXjxaC4NEk$EwEM@ntlworld.com... > In message , Anita Carter > writes > >objectionable :-))) > >How about leaving creatures off the end of the sentence looks so much > >better! > >-- > > Okay :-) > > All women are lovely, they are interesting and exciting :-) That is better :-)) > > Anita > >Smile: it costs nothing, it creates much. > > > > > > > > -- > Mike Clayton > Dragons slain, damsels ravished, evil doers vanquished > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: <6uj0pv0lps7g7vs6q16ba2ij5b59lifmvc@4ax.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:40:24 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.251.4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066426824 65.95.251.4 (Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:40:24 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:40:24 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 839 Lines: 22 On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:59:05 -0400, "Joan F \(MI\)" wrote: >You mean it was God who messed up the Florida votes? I would never have >guessed! > >"Dink" wrote in message >news:Xns94173228FEAD9frijoles@130.133.1.4... >God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden >By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) >http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 God's a Republican? Marian was wrong all along? Finally the answer is revealed.? Tranquility can now descend upon the group, all has been answered, "Praise the whatever". God can't "mess" up anything, think about it. On the other hand there is this collection of animal life known as humans, but maybe we're just an experiment. Jan (Dabbling his toe into American politics) "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: whunicut@aol.comNS (Whunicut) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 17 Oct 2003 22:01:37 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: <20031017180137.27387.00000378@mb-m10.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 172 Lines: 7 >N 30.21, W 97.81 The minutes in west longitude should be more than 0 and less than 60. Or you may actually be at W 98.21, in which case, forget it. Warren, picky, picky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 17 Oct 2003 23:08:48 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: <20031017180137.27387.00000378@mb-m10.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.152.184.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.152.184) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066432128 26222448 67.74.152.184 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 378 Lines: 16 whunicut@aol.comNS (Whunicut) wrote in news:20031017180137.27387.00000378@mb-m10.aol.com: >>N 30.21, W 97.81 > > The minutes in west longitude should be more than 0 and less than 60. > Or you may actually be at W 98.21, in which case, forget it. > > Warren, > picky, picky No minutes there. Them is decimal degrees. N 30° 12' 36" x W 97° 48' 36" -- N 30.21, W 97.81 Dink From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Ballad of the Blue Berets Message-ID: <5711pv0f7lb7o4c5bjkl8nlpd5m69csthe@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:17:33 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.251.98 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066436255 65.95.251.98 (Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:17:35 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:17:35 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1020 Lines: 42 Ballad of the Blue Berets Tune:- The Ballad of the Green Berets History:- Bemoaning the introduction to the Royal Navy of the beret with fatigues or "Number eights" Now listen sailors as from today With number eights, wear the blue beret But you'll still need a Pusser's cap I ask you all, what a feed of crap CHORUS Scarlet lanyards on their chests Steaming bats, and your Oppo's vest Some are straight, but most are gay These brave men, wear the blue beret So off went Jack, with all his pay Said "give us a badge, and a blue beret" "Hey what's the game", he cried with pride "I look just like, a big girl guide! CHORUS So off he went, with it on his napper To various cries of Puff and Snapper! He doesn't care, its made his day He's feeling proud, he's a blue beret CHORUS Standing parties fallen in Five three badge men and a piece of skin He'd better watch his parts today Those big men wear the blue beret CHORUS Jan (Inviting you to sing along) "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003101801445676656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 01:44:56 +0100 Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Re: Taxi drivers have bigger brains References: <24OVlPAf+Ij$EwZB@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20031015010937.29165.00000635@mb-m06.aol.com> X-Trace: 1066437902 master.news.zetnet.net 195 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 519 Lines: 24 The message <20031015010937.29165.00000635@mb-m06.aol.com> from lustron1@aol.com (Marian) contains these words: > >>>Dirty Den is back! > >>>-- > >>>val at copelands.co.uk 14-Oct-2003 17:58:59 > >>>http://copelands.co.uk/val > >> > >>Didn't he die? > >> > >>a puzzled Marian > >> > >Didn't JR get shot? > >-- > >Gordon > Who shot him? I've forgotten. Bing Crosby's daughter, was it not? Can't remember the name of the character she played (probably something highly unlikely)! -- AnneJ ICQ #:- 119531282 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 04:56:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <8pk9ov88v9rs4cuu9o54vlcgovg91v4l42@4ax.com> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.104 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066467580 27300852 66.153.69.104 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1763 Lines: 40 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Thanks for indulging all my questions, Gordon. > >One more... who organized these races? > >Was it the schools? Or just a bunch of kids? > >I can't imagine riding a bike for 24 hours. > >Was it straight time???? No interruptions? > >That's impossible. > >---Sea > > > No it isn't, although calls of nature have to be managed somehow. This > is rarely a big problem as in such an event dehydration usually occurs > unless lots of fluids are concerned. > There are feeding stations set up, and private arrangements can be made > fro friends to feed at strategic points. > I was going to tell you that they have a special tube running from > A to B. B is a special tank mounted on the frame. > But it ain't true! > I think it was the NCU who organised the Time Trials. > There were two rival organisations, the National Cyclists Union, and the > BLRC (British League of Racing Cyclists), who wanted massed start > racing, with road closures. They got it eventually. > Gordon Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. (I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) Your words "road closures" reminded me of how our son and 7 year old grandson have done group bike rides (not races) in NYC. I believe they have special days for these when they close off certain roads. I was amazed when I heard my grandson had taken part. Since our son and his family live almost two hours north of NYC, it was quite a full day for them. They drove down to the city with their bikes hitched to the car. I believe the Staten Island Ferry was part of their itinerary. I wonder how many cities or towns close off roads on special days for the enjoyment of bike riders. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:19 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 05:05:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <53c8ovkujftrsmm465rup82pmvm3dk0j94@4ax.com> <8pk9ov88v9rs4cuu9o54vlcgovg91v4l42@4ax.com> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.104 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066467988 27087194 66.153.69.104 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1824 Lines: 49 "Yoj" wrote > > > "~~seadancer~~" wrote > > > > I still have to check the TV for BBC. > > > > Haven't been watching much lately. > > > > I've been bike-riding during the afternoons for > > > > three days in a row. Temps have been perfect for it. > > > > At night I'm so exhausted, I zonk out before I can > > > > watch TV for more than 5 minutes. > > > > ---Sea, not as young as she used to be... :) > > > > > > That started me humming a song, but I decided not to post the words. > > > > > > Joy > > > > LOL, Joy! > > I know the song you probably thought of: > > o/~ The old gray mare, > > She ain't what she used to be... o/~ > > Many long years ago... o/~ > > > http://www.worldfolksong.com/kids/song/oldgraymare.htm > > ---Sea > >That's it, but don't take it personally. I often hear a phrase >that reminds me of a song. Sometimes just the rhythm of a >sentence will make me think of one, even if the words are >different. If I'm not actually >listening to music, I have some >song or other running through my head most of the time. >Sometimes I know what made me think of the song, and >sometimes I don't. When I had to cancel a trip to New >Orleans last year, I finally realized that I kept humming >"Lili Marlene" because it was Hurricane Lily that caused >the trip to be cancelled. OTOH, the other day I sound myself >singing, "East side, west side, all around the town." >I still haven't figured out where that came from, since I >haven't sung or heard the song in years. >Joy Hi Joy, I know what you mean about getting tunes in one's head. There are certain ones which stay with you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Goodbye to care when you whistle the air of a song you can't forget." --Guy Carryl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:36:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <8pk9ov88v9rs4cuu9o54vlcgovg91v4l42@4ax.com> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066483516 18976 194.222.103.116 (18 Oct 2003 13:25:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 13:25:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1301 Lines: 31 ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. >(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) Yes, we know dear, Sinclair disappeared about the same time as you did, so blatant, so obvious........ Presumably he is still too exhausted to write, so you must have been 'de trop' for him..... I shall just have to accept the fact that our relationship is over. >Your words "road closures" reminded me of how our son >and 7 year old grandson have done group bike rides >(not races) in NYC. I believe they have special days for these >when they close off certain roads. I was amazed when I >heard my grandson had taken part. Since our son and his >family live almost two hours north of NYC, it was quite a >full day for them. They drove down to the city with their >bikes hitched to the car. I believe the Staten Island Ferry >was part of their itinerary. >I wonder how many cities or towns close off roads on >special days for the enjoyment of bike riders. >---Sea > Not many, but an excellent example for others. Some of our towns and cities have made their shopping precincts pedestrian only now, although there are car parks adjacent. It makes for a more relaxed shopping experience, provided you can avoid the cyclists. ;-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail X-Admin: news@aol.com From: whunicut@aol.comNS (Whunicut) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Date: 18 Oct 2003 11:34:30 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: I want to puke Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20031018073430.17057.00000737@mb-m03.aol.com> Status: O Content-Length: 199 Lines: 11 >No minutes there. Them is decimal degrees. >N 30° 12' 36" x W 97° 48' 36" >-- >N 30.21, W 97.81 >Dink > Yep. Realized that after I hit the send button. Warren Who should look before leaping.;)) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.121 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066483911 27186721 66.153.69.121 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 434 Lines: 12 What chores are you doing today? I have so many chores to do that I don't know where to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm so confused. (lol) Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put things away where they belong. We're still unpacking from our move and things are piling up around here. Let me add another question: What chores would you *like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:37:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <8pk9ov88v9rs4cuu9o54vlcgovg91v4l42@4ax.com> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.121 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066484320 27215235 66.153.69.121 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 665 Lines: 21 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. > >(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) > > Yes, we know dear, Sinclair disappeared about the > same time as you did, so blatant, so obvious........ > Presumably he is still too exhausted to write, so you > must have been 'de trop' for him..... > I shall just have to accept the fact that our relationship is over. [...] > Gordon LOL! Oh, Gordon, was it so very obvious? I'm so ashamed. And now he's left me. Gone from my life forever. Will you take me back? I'm begging you. ROTFL ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:44:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <8pk9ov88v9rs4cuu9o54vlcgovg91v4l42@4ax.com> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.121 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066484719 27376984 66.153.69.121 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1515 Lines: 36 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. > >(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) [...] > >Your words "road closures" reminded me of how our son > >and 7 year old grandson have done group bike rides > >(not races) in NYC. I believe they have special days for these > >when they close off certain roads. I was amazed when I > >heard my grandson had taken part. Since our son and his > >family live almost two hours north of NYC, it was quite a > >full day for them. They drove down to the city with their > >bikes hitched to the car. I believe the Staten Island Ferry > >was part of their itinerary. > >I wonder how many cities or towns close off roads on > >special days for the enjoyment of bike riders. > >---Sea > > > Not many, but an excellent example for others. > Some of our towns and cities have made their shopping > precincts pedestrian only now, although there are car > parks adjacent. It makes for a more relaxed shopping > experience, provided you can avoid the cyclists. ;-) > Gordon Does that mean that the shoppers have to carry their packages a long way to their cars? I forgot to mention that parts of the Bronx River Parkway in downstate NY, used to be closed to traffic for certain periods on weekends so that bikers could enjoy the road, which winds through some very pretty scenery. I never got a chance to take advantage of the program, but I always wanted to. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <10696-3F91453F-7@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAzV3Z65cMLiAEbyA1hh2evrX3TLICFQCSZsXB5WUxT7WSs7H6qejoQiMkuQ== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 893 Lines: 16 Gordon - - Hi!! Well, yours is faulty reasoning!!! ====1) your claim that, had Bush not been elected, there would have been less terror upon our nation. What on earth brought you to that conclusion?? The terror campaign against the U.S. had been planned long, long before Bush was elected. ====2) the Arab nations are not ignorant - you said. Oh, but yes, they are. they are obsessed in their ignorance. ====3) you claimed that Israel would become even more belligerent since they knew Bush would approve ,etc. Wrong again. first of all, Israel's actions are IN RESPONSE only to the Palestinians' suicide bombings - and you know that - eveyone does. Secondly, Israel had approval under all our former Presidents, not just Bush, and yet, when and if they went too far - in our eyes - they were reprimanded - under all our Presidents. Gordon - try to have facts rule your bias. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <10694-3F9145BB-26@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <8qb8ovgrk30t0dr23bufiv2il5c2luvs5k@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQNnSR8NqclXMAxkzROgVlAfFJlXAIUH4jxXgVcwllz3XcI2Rr8SZSntW4= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 92 Lines: 3 Eugene - - finally, a voice of reason. You are so correct in your response to Gordon. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <10694-3F914647-27@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <20031008122332.09689.00000537@mb-m25.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRH1R6YlKqKSJUeKAdO56LB2CYk5gIVALj2JB/DKk0Y/W8GFjLUNPtOK62D Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 168 Lines: 5 Marian - there is no particular "art" in carefully hand-picking the articles we submit to the group, which fit our own bias. Thus, these articles prove nothing. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <10694-3F9147A3-30@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUArVhWMP8C2w2r8gn81YqfeSOadYsCFE3OHxVFY8yqIBMfh0nXh6gLYLTY Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 457 Lines: 9 Gordon - -wrong, yet again! When Saddam invaded Kuwait, that - you claimed - was under Clinton. Guess you have problems with your memory. It was, obviously, under the first President Bush, that we fought Saddam, in combination with our allies, and drove him out of Kuwait. Clinton had nothing to do with tht war.====The twin towers attack had nothing to do with our present administration, since, obviously, that attack was planned long, long ago. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <10694-3F9148EF-32@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAg/1KwHImlyYUMOW9ps1FqZ6PY9UCFQCn6g/nuPGRfNjBMbpy+v8Sjc88EQ== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 384 Lines: 7 Goron - again, a murky memory on your part. Most of the dreadful events which have happened (by the terrorists) happened BEFORE Bush took office. some afterwards.==suicide bombings in Israel, for instance, has been happening under several previous regimes - but has not stopped yet. The other points you made are accurate. Let us resolve to be accurate in ALL statements.====Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <10694-3F914976-33@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRzY5DEBkxJcHpnRGVuSwohTTaI1gIUCxqJDGuPlEnKt5lOPSBwsrmv1zk= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 75 Lines: 3 Eugene - I could not have responded better than you did - to Gordon. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <10694-3F914A40-34@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAj5p4nkLYyI7gNGbc4gDrvEvTDM0CFGbiPUmDDY5EnRV1pZQr9onV6Umr Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 290 Lines: 7 Gordon - - I hope we here, in the U.S. will remember and follow your sage advice to show "your butts" when a foreign dignitary comes to visit, and whom you happen to dislike. That sounds very unlike the usual, refined English mannerism, but sounds more like Gordon's personal anger. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:20 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <10694-3F914B77-37@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f84a8a7$0$22822$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhR3BVCa6KoD6iSZisGBO2ScFoKcyAIUIJRduBrhXzqdE1rYX7W70kvC7h0= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 369 Lines: 8 Bobbie - - as I wrote in another post, submitting articles which happen to fit our own views, is easy, and proves absolutely nothing, except that some writer is as biased as we are!!! ===I am not particularly enthralled with our present President; i am an Independent, but when I encounter insulting bias, and unfair evaluations and representations, I speak up. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:22:44 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <19m2pvgs40caor4ncoe6ml77uvgnuhi1ai@4ax.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1051 Lines: 28 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >What chores are you doing today? >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >so confused. (lol) >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >from our move and things are piling up around here. >Let me add another question: What chores would you >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? >---Sea > No real chores today (morning) until I go to work at about 3:30pm. One of the two days a week I work. If you can call sitting on a bus taking care of a dozen or so visually impaired kids from San Antonio to Austin work. More of a fun trip. However, the beautiful Rosa will have plenty for me to do when I get back. The good thing about that is the priorities will already be decided. :-) -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:47:32 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18146-3F916094-20@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQUhAc/E+Z3eHM9LR56VtuAmRsDYAIUPaMWwvaCiNJhlNYF7jJUFpir6qE= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 474 Lines: 11 bob wrote: "You may be right. A story in the past few days, btw, concerns Muslim women coming to the US, getting Medicare to have their babies and then returning to their countries. Not too sure what that's all about, however it does indicate that people CAN get medical care for free........" ****************************************** There is a big differnce between Medicare (for those over 65) and Medicade, bob. I'm surprised you don't know the differece. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:49:13 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066506056 18828 194.222.103.116 (18 Oct 2003 19:40:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:40:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 298 Lines: 12 ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >LOL! Oh, Gordon, was it so very obvious? >I'm so ashamed. And now he's left me. >Gone from my life forever. >Will you take me back? >I'm begging you. ROTFL >---Sea > Well, If you just stop ROTF for a moment I'll show you! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:54:24 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <5jirovcimus6uitlgrf6ivqmacj27job2d@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQysfHbJC5lnJUzOitgsRQfGjLEmAIUUmfxUXvzexWxXTRUpJnA/4L4uFY= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 799 Lines: 15 Eugene wrote: "I'll go along with that. However, I think if you will check you will find I start very few threads. Unless I overlooked one I can find only one thread I started that had anything to do with politics; "The California Recall and how I would vote". =A0 The rest concerned jokes. I also think you will find that I have not traded many, if any, insults. ( I suppose that depends on what you call an insult. ) You will find that I respond to political post that I find in error, or insults, my country or president." ************************************** Didn't say you started anything. Go back and read what I wrote. I mentioned those names particularly because their owners seemed to be completely riled up. And it is insulting to try to impose one's views on another. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Anita Carter" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:09:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: <10694-3F914A40-34@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-62-64-134-190.access.uk.tiscali.com (62.64.134.190) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066496954 26515626 62.64.134.190 (16 [125170]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Status: O Content-Length: 587 Lines: 20 "Olly Mensch" wrote in message news:10694-3F914A40-34@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Gordon - - I hope we here, in the U.S. will remember and follow your > sage advice to show "your butts" when a foreign dignitary comes to > visit, and whom you happen to dislike. That sounds very unlike the > usual, refined English mannerism, but sounds more like Gordon's personal > anger. > Olly Yes Olly, I think you are correct - we English (well most of us) are definitely more refined than that, -- Anita "Smiles are contagious. Be a carrier!" > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: 18 Oct 2003 10:19:02 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <3c122aad.0310180919.68822d1d@posting.google.com> References: <10694-3F9148EF-32@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.9.132.208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066497543 19851 127.0.0.1 (18 Oct 2003 17:19:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 830 Lines: 13 Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote in message news:<10694-3F9148EF-32@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net>... > Goron - again, a murky memory on your part. Most of the dreadful events > which have happened (by the terrorists) happened BEFORE Bush took > office. some afterwards.==suicide bombings in Israel, for instance, has > been happening under several previous regimes - but has not stopped yet. > The other points you made are accurate. Let us resolve to be accurate > in ALL statements.====Olly Let's be accurate The suicide bombing in Israel were started when Sharon got aggressive. Israel has ignored the UN violated many UN Security Council resolutions and been rewarded with guns and money. The Arabs and Israelis are as bad as each other. Do you know you go to jail in Israel if you preach Christianity. Rod From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <10694-3F9147A3-30@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:21:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.202 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066501287 32.103.153.202 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:21:27 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:21:27 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 442 Lines: 14 You're waaaay behind the times, Olly. Gordon's post was some time ago, several people have pointed out that error, and he acknowledged it. Talk about beating a dead horse! Joy "Olly Mensch" wrote in message news:10694-3F9147A3-30@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Gordon - -wrong, yet again! When Saddam invaded Kuwait, that - you > claimed - was under Clinton. Guess you have problems with your memory. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F9184C8.4096C75F@bellsouth.net> From: Shirley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? References: <19m2pvgs40caor4ncoe6ml77uvgnuhi1ai@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ldjgbllpbapjglppdbdpiflmbcekedmfhojhikkbagflhcbocnhfbkfgjhmncckbnmledmdkbemomibpcclmiophmdifdgnmgohkkdjfkmplfkkghfdjnnkhiklkpefcacgmebhaglipgdefgkiomghjliebjlcpegcmjhhibopfakdb NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:14:47 EDT Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:22:00 -0400 Status: O Content-Length: 1165 Lines: 35 "Eugene A. Calame" wrote: > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" > wrote: > > >What chores are you doing today? > >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where > >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm > >so confused. (lol) > >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put > >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking > >from our move and things are piling up around here. > >Let me add another question: What chores would you > >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? > >---Sea > > > No real chores today (morning) until I go to work at about 3:30pm. One of the > two days a week I work. If you can call sitting on a bus taking care of a dozen > or so visually impaired kids from San Antonio to Austin work. More of a fun > trip. > > However, the beautiful Rosa will have plenty for me to do when I get back. The > good thing about that is the priorities will already be decided. :-) > > -- > Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com > Austin, Texas USA > > Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends Where did the kids go on their trip? From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:25:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.202 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066501527 32.103.153.202 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:25:27 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:25:27 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1180 Lines: 26 "~~seadancer~~" wrote in message news:bmrfc6$ptlh1$1@ID-178699.news.uni-berlin.de... > What chores are you doing today? > I have so many chores to do that I don't know where > to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm > so confused. (lol) > Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put > things away where they belong. We're still unpacking > from our move and things are piling up around here. > Let me add another question: What chores would you > *like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? > ---Sea I have to do some token house-cleaning, because my kids are coming over tomorrow. I'm really excited - we're getting together to celebrate my daughter and SIL's anniversary, but all three of "my" kids are going to come to the church to see the presentation I'm giving after church. It will be a combination of two speeches I've done for Toastmasters - "Animal Adventures in Australia", complete with photos, and a humorous speech called "Strine 101". My son and daughter came to my first Area contest. Otherwise, they've never heard me speak in public. After the presentation, we're going out to brunch. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: 18 Oct 2003 11:26:20 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <3c122aad.0310181026.a8058ae@posting.google.com> References: <10696-3F91453F-7@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.9.134.77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066501580 22899 127.0.0.1 (18 Oct 2003 18:26:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1398 Lines: 23 Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote in message news:<10696-3F91453F-7@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net>... > Gordon - - Hi!! Well, yours is faulty reasoning!!! > ====1) your claim that, had Bush not been elected, there would have > been less terror upon our nation. What on earth brought you to that > conclusion?? The terror campaign against the U.S. had been planned > long, long before Bush was elected. > ====2) the Arab nations are not ignorant - you said. Oh, but yes, they > are. they are obsessed in their ignorance. > ====3) you claimed that Israel would become even more belligerent since > they knew Bush would approve ,etc. Wrong again. first of all, Israel's > actions are IN RESPONSE only to the Palestinians' suicide bombings - and > you know that - eveyone does. Secondly, Israel had approval under all > our former Presidents, not just Bush, and yet, when and if they went too > far - in our eyes - they were reprimanded - under all our Presidents. > Gordon - try to have facts rule your bias. > Olly Yea ok but no other President has launched pre emptive attacks. Israel's actions are awful and they are not in responce to anything. They have disregarded more UN Securty council resolution than Saddam Isreal is obsessed in it's own ignorance. You try to have the facts. You are the one who is wrong. The united states attacked Iraq to protect Israel. Rod From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 18 Oct 2003 11:33:27 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.38.146.30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066502007 23107 127.0.0.1 (18 Oct 2003 18:33:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1570 Lines: 34 Jan wrote in message news:... > > While I do not agree with war I am also opposed to the types of smear > campaigns which seem to be a popular ploy with some US media types. The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. > I can look at these rantings in the media and shrug. The man does, > after all, have a private life. If he thinks Allah is the great > satan, so be it. Perhaps, in view of his position he could have > exercised a modicum of restraint. However, the fact that he let his > fervour run away with his mouth should not be held against him. > Surely the fact of whether or not he can do his job is more important > than his religious beliefs. If he starts issuing US troops with > little, or big red crosses to wear on their chests, I will become > concerned, until that time however why not wait and see if he can > perform the duties assigned to him. The general was in his *United States Army uniform* when he said his remarks. This was not his private life. By wearing his uniform, he was acting as if he was representing the Unites States. He should be fired at once. However W. Bush will not do this. Thus the decent Muslims and much of the rest of the world will have reason again to look on the Unites States with contempt at such hate-mongering be allowed by the President. And they will be right. -The Lady From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:08:18 +0100 Message-ID: <24GVlNAi+Yk$Ewhw@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066506058 18828 194.222.103.116 (18 Oct 2003 19:40:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:40:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1347 Lines: 31 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >> Some of our towns and cities have made their shopping >> precincts pedestrian only now, although there are car >> parks adjacent. >Does that mean that the shoppers have to carry their >packages a long way to their cars? Yes - we have developed a new strain of humans over here with legs. Usually there are multi-storey car parks very close. >I forgot to mention that parts of the Bronx River Parkway >in downstate NY, used to be closed to traffic for certain >periods on weekends so that bikers could enjoy the >road, which winds through some very pretty scenery. >I never got a chance to take advantage of the program, >but I always wanted to. >---Sea > I'm glad you remembered it now. There are some disused railway tracks in Derbyshire which have been converted into walking/cycling routes, but the tunnels have been blocked off, requiring a couple of detours. On of them has a long incline, up which the engines and trains were hauled by a wire rope from a winding station at the top because the gradient was too steep for a steam train to climb. This is a delightful walk in Autumn, when the leaves have turned to gold and half of them have fallen, an arch of gold overhead and a carpet of gold beneath, but the timing has to be right or all the leaves have fallen. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:19:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <10694-3F914A40-34@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066506061 18828 194.222.103.116 (18 Oct 2003 19:41:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:41:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 504 Lines: 14 Olly Mensch wrote >Gordon - - I hope we here, in the U.S. will remember and follow your >sage advice to show "your butts" when a foreign dignitary comes to >visit, and whom you happen to dislike. That sounds very unlike the >usual, refined English mannerism, but sounds more like Gordon's personal >anger. >Olly > That's rich! I only read about it in a news item! He is not coming any where near me anyway! Your posts are becoming increasingly bizarre, Olly...... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:21 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Fay Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:43:39 -0000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 390 Lines: 11 ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote in news:1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com: > The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. > > He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and > Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. > My God doesn't run a virgin whore house with 72 virgin whores for men that kill infidels. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:21:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916094-20@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066509474 24013 194.222.103.116 (18 Oct 2003 20:37:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:37:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 681 Lines: 17 Jeanette S. wrote >bob wrote: "You may be right. A story in the past few days, btw, >concerns Muslim women coming to the US, getting Medicare to have their >babies and then returning to their countries. >Not too sure what that's all about, however it does indicate that people >CAN get medical care for free........" >****************************************** >There is a big differnce between Medicare (for those over 65) and >Medicade, bob. >I'm surprised you don't know the differece. >Jeanette > There was a furore in the UK some years ago when American women were coming over to have their babies here. It don't think it is worth it nowadays! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:27:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: <10694-3F9147A3-30@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066509476 24013 194.222.103.116 (18 Oct 2003 20:37:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:37:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 643 Lines: 26 Yoj wrote >You're waaaay behind the times, Olly. Gordon's post was some time ago, >several people have pointed out that error, and he acknowledged it. >Talk about beating a dead horse! > >Joy > :-) Have you noticed how Olly (aka Lottie) pursues me with all kinds of accusations? I suppose I should be flattered by her attentions.... ;-) > >"Olly Mensch" wrote in message >news:10694-3F9147A3-30@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... >> Gordon - -wrong, yet again! When Saddam invaded Kuwait, that - you >> claimed - was under Clinton. Guess you have problems with your >memory. > > -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:42:40 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.249.247 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066513364 65.95.249.247 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:42:44 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:42:44 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 3553 Lines: 76 On 18 Oct 2003 11:33:27 -0700, ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote: >Jan wrote in message news:... >> >> While I do not agree with war I am also opposed to the types of smear >> campaigns which seem to be a popular ploy with some US media types. > >The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. Please note the following from the report: "Investigative reporters from the Los Angeles Times and NBC television have dug up two years' worth of seemingly incendiary comments from Lt Gen William "Jerry" Boykin, the newly promoted deputy undersecretary of state of defence for intelligence." The very use of the words "dug up" indicates to me that these intrepid 'investigative reporters' were looking for anything to smear this person. Do you put another interpretation on this phrase? > >He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. Not a big deal. Allah, God, Yahweh, Jehovah are all names for the same something. Just because he happens to think God is superior to Allah is not reason enough to censure him in my opinion. The muslims seem to think that Allah is superior. > >> I can look at these rantings in the media and shrug. The man does, >> after all, have a private life. If he thinks Allah is the great >> satan, so be it. Perhaps, in view of his position he could have >> exercised a modicum of restraint. However, the fact that he let his >> fervour run away with his mouth should not be held against him. >> Surely the fact of whether or not he can do his job is more important >> than his religious beliefs. If he starts issuing US troops with >> little, or big red crosses to wear on their chests, I will become >> concerned, until that time however why not wait and see if he can >> perform the duties assigned to him. > > >The general was in his *United States Army uniform* when he said his >remarks. This was not his private life. By wearing his uniform, he >was acting as if he was representing the Unites States. I disagree. If he had made these statements in uniform in a foreign country, you may have a point. However, within the US he is merely another person expressing a point of view, or are you against free speech for a person in the military? The fact that he chose to appear in uniform indicates to me nothing more than an enlarged ego. Again, nothing for which to be censured. Do you really think the 'investigative reporters' would have not pounced on this even if he was in civvies? > >He should be fired at once. However W. Bush will not do this. Thus >the decent Muslims and much of the rest of the world will have reason >again to look on the Unites States with contempt at such >hate-mongering be allowed by the President. Why? What has he done that many other people of the Christian persuasion have not done? How do you see this as 'hate mongering'? Has a lack of political correctness suddenly become 'hate mongering'? The majority of people throughout the world will probably just shrug, as I do, and write it off to an over-zealous person with an over-inflated ego. Bearing in mind what some not so decent muslims say, he should be applauded, not censured. > >And they will be right. People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. This is just another rabid US media storm in a tea-cup. It will pass. > > -The Lady Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <10694-3F9147A3-30@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:58:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.78 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066517916 32.103.153.78 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:58:36 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:58:36 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1104 Lines: 41 True. I have a feeling she wouldn't like a website I recently learned about. I think you might like it, so I'll send you the url by e-mail, if it isn't munged. If it is, e-mail me (mine isn't) and I'll send it to you - if you want it, that is. -- Joy Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg "Gordon" wrote in message news:KaJ6dmAcIak$EwEp@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > >You're waaaay behind the times, Olly. Gordon's post was some time ago, > >several people have pointed out that error, and he acknowledged it. > >Talk about beating a dead horse! > > > >Joy > > > :-) > > Have you noticed how Olly (aka Lottie) pursues me with all kinds of > accusations? > > I suppose I should be flattered by her attentions.... > ;-) > > > > >"Olly Mensch" wrote in message > >news:10694-3F9147A3-30@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... > >> Gordon - -wrong, yet again! When Saddam invaded Kuwait, that - you > >> claimed - was under Clinton. Guess you have problems with your > >memory. > > > > > > -- > Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:03:44 GMT Message-ID: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> References: Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-088.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.88) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066518226 27845194 203.87.44.88 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 851 Lines: 28 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >What chores are you doing today? >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >so confused. (lol) >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >from our move and things are piling up around here. >Let me add another question: What chores would you >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? >---Sea "I'm busy doing nothing, Working the whole day through, Trying to find lots of things not to do. I'm busy going nowhere, Isn't it such a crime, I'd like to be unhappy but... I never do have the time..." And I think that says it all.... I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.78 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066518795 32.103.153.78 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1029 Lines: 36 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" > wrote: > > >What chores are you doing today? > >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where > >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm > >so confused. (lol) > >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put > >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking > >from our move and things are piling up around here. > >Let me add another question: What chores would you > >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? > >---Sea > > "I'm busy doing nothing, > Working the whole day through, > Trying to find lots of things not to do. > > I'm busy going nowhere, > Isn't it such a crime, > I'd like to be unhappy but... > I never do have the time..." > > And I think that says it all.... > > I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it > > jingles Onya, Jingles! Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Fay Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:24:14 -0000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 701 Lines: 16 Jan wrote in news:bmb3pvk5mh397ikfadoorl7mim57l0n1qf@4ax.com: >> >>He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >>Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. > > Not a big deal. Allah, God, Yahweh, Jehovah are all names for the same > something. Just because he happens to think God is superior to Allah > is not reason enough to censure him in my opinion. The muslims seem > to think that Allah is superior. My God does not run a virgin whore house for murdering suicide terrorist. My God says sucide is a sin. My God says murder is a sin. My God does not reward terrorist. My God send all of the above to burn in HELL for all eternity. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jean B." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Cats Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:58:17 -0400 Organization: increasingly lacking Message-ID: <3F91EFB9.1220B1FA@rcn.com> References: <3f826653$0$22822$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f84109b$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8555a4$0$22822$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <_6ohb.174844$3o3.12909673@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f861cb0$0$31391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f86756e$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8727b9$0$29410$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8882fd$0$15134$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3F88B500.54700437@rcn.com> <3F894696.4D1E4215@rcn.com> <3F8A0A55.B8FDF7AA@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-6-251-12.c3-0.lex-ubr2.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com (209.6.251.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066528704 27677626 209.6.251.12 (16 [169115]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,ja,ko,af Status: O Content-Length: 2581 Lines: 74 Yoj wrote: > > "Jean B." wrote in message > news:3F8A0A55.B8FDF7AA@rcn.com... > > Yoj wrote: > > > > > > "Jean B." wrote in message > > > news:3F894696.4D1E4215@rcn.com... > > > > Sinclair wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Jean B." wrote in message > > > news:3F88B500.54700437@rcn.com... > > > > > > Barbara Christian wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many people have one or two cats. Not very many who have > more > > > > > > > than that. I prefer Persians now because they can't climb > fences > > > and > > > > > > > wander and can't catch birds. In fact, my cat isn't even > > > interested in > > > > > > > birds. Because I have birds I received from Wildlife Rescue, > > > those > > > > > > > deemed unfit to be returned to the wild, my cat feels that > birds > > > > > > > belong here. In fact, he and my lorikeet have conversations. > > > Lori > > > > > > > engages in cat talk....a wonderful range of cat talk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have had one cat, Ming, for just over five years. He is a > > > > > > color carrier Persian. Just recently we acquired, either as > > > > > > foster cats or adoptees (I think it will be the latter), two > > > > > > Himalayans. I love their sweet personalities. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jean B., 12 miles west of Boston, Massachusetts, USA > > > > > > > > > > dear Jean B > > > > > > > > > > What is a "color carrier Persian"? > > > > > > > > > > Sinclair > > > > > > > > Heh! I keep changing his description. He was sold (yes, sold--I > > > > have since learned the error of my ways) as a Himalayan cat, but > > > > he is solid black--or, if you look carefully solid black with even > > > > blacker points. And he has gold eyes. I gather he carries the > > > > genes for the points (as seen on Siamese and Himalayan cats) but > > > > that those genes were not expressed in him. > > > > -- > > > > Jean B. > > > > > > He sounds gorgeous! > > > > > > Joy > > > > He is. I have a pic that Graham reduced, I think. Want to see it > > if I can find it? Tomorrow I'm going to try again to get some > > decent pics of the new guys. > > -- > > Jean B. > > Sure, I'd love to see it. > > Joy I'll have to get Leah to shrink one for me. I can't find one that is small enough to send. I'll also try to get some decent pics of the new guys. The one of Frankie is awful--looks like she had her mouth open and her tongue hanging out.... She is a very nice looking cat. She looks very feminine. (I wonder if I would think that if I didn't know her gender?) -- Jean B. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:07:35 GMT Message-ID: <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-088.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.88) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066529257 28315475 203.87.44.88 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1428 Lines: 47 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" >> wrote: >> >> >What chores are you doing today? >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >> >so confused. (lol) >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? >> >---Sea >> >> "I'm busy doing nothing, >> Working the whole day through, >> Trying to find lots of things not to do. >> >> I'm busy going nowhere, >> Isn't it such a crime, >> I'd like to be unhappy but... >> I never do have the time..." >> >> And I think that says it all.... >> >> I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it >> >> jingles > >Onya, Jingles! > >Joy "I have to wake the sun up, He's liable to sleep all day, And ring a round the rosebuds, So they'll be bright and gay, I told my friend the robin, I'd buy him a brand new vest, Hustle Bustle, I wish I could take a rest..." (Courtesy Bing Crosby in (I think) a Yankee at the Court of King Arthur) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: little bunny fu-fu Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Message-ID: References: Organization: a hopping we will go X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.50 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:19:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.180.0.85 X-Trace: clgrps13 1066529991 64.180.0.85 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:19:51 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:19:51 MDT Status: O Content-Length: 875 Lines: 25 In article , seadancer1934 @yahoo.com says... > What chores are you doing today? > I have so many chores to do that I don't know where > to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm > so confused. (lol) > Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put > things away where they belong. We're still unpacking > from our move and things are piling up around here. > Let me add another question: What chores would you > *like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? today I'm ignoring everything that needs to be done....tomorrow I might do the same. meheh....it's so much less stressful that way. -- Christine if you want to feel rich, look at all the things you have that money can't buy Destiny sketches out our lifes blueprint with the pencil of our perceptions...... Erase the limiting ones. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <3Imkb.184087$0v4.14215647@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.67 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066530687 32.103.153.67 (Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1664 Lines: 54 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net... > On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > >"jingles" wrote in message > >news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... > >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" > >> wrote: > >> > >> >What chores are you doing today? > >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where > >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm > >> >so confused. (lol) > >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put > >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking > >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. > >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you > >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? > >> >---Sea > >> > >> "I'm busy doing nothing, > >> Working the whole day through, > >> Trying to find lots of things not to do. > >> > >> I'm busy going nowhere, > >> Isn't it such a crime, > >> I'd like to be unhappy but... > >> I never do have the time..." > >> > >> And I think that says it all.... > >> > >> I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it > >> > >> jingles > > > >Onya, Jingles! > > > >Joy > > "I have to wake the sun up, > He's liable to sleep all day, > And ring a round the rosebuds, > So they'll be bright and gay, > I told my friend the robin, I'd buy him a brand new vest, > Hustle Bustle, I wish I could take a rest..." > > (Courtesy Bing Crosby in (I think) a Yankee at the Court of King > Arthur) I think it might have been Danny Kaye. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:49:10 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.115.207 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066531754 64.231.115.207 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:49:14 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:49:14 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 2156 Lines: 48 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:24:14 -0000, Fay wrote: >Jan wrote in >news:bmb3pvk5mh397ikfadoorl7mim57l0n1qf@4ax.com: >>> >>>He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >>>Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. >> >> Not a big deal. Allah, God, Yahweh, Jehovah are all names for the same >> something. Just because he happens to think God is superior to Allah >> is not reason enough to censure him in my opinion. The muslims seem >> to think that Allah is superior. > >My God does not run a virgin whore house for murdering suicide terrorist. >My God says sucide is a sin. >My God says murder is a sin. >My God does not reward terrorist. >My God send all of the above to burn in HELL for all eternity. Good for your God, and I suspect, the good General's God also, though I think your God's a bit straight-laced and vicious. The first one's a bit of an oxymoron though isn't it? I mean really, virgins and whore-houses don't go together do they? Suicide is rather silly, but hardly a sin in my view. Murder is to be avoided, however it's then necessary to define murder. I presume you also believe that if you are 'good' all your life you'll go to heaven, whatever that is. What is the difference in that belief and the one that some muslims have that they will be rewarded? Both are beliefs relating to different religions, who's to say which one is right. Certainly not me, I would hope I'm not that presumptuous. Of course, to burn in hell, one has to believe in hell. If one believes in hell then one has to believe in satan. If one believes in satan then one has to believe that God is not omnipotent. Bit of a problem really. Personally, my God happens to love all things unconditionally, is non-judgemental, does not lay out a list of dos and don'ts and like a loving parent doesn't really give a rodents rectum whether or not I screw up. My God still loves me, warts and all. As I am in no position to determine if I've screwed up anywhere, I'm quite happy with this arrangement. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:22 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:49:10 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.115.207 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066531754 64.231.115.207 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:49:14 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:49:14 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1125 Lines: 37 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:03:44 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" > wrote: > >>What chores are you doing today? >>I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >>to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >>so confused. (lol) >>Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >>things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >>from our move and things are piling up around here. >>Let me add another question: What chores would you >>*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? >>---Sea > >"I'm busy doing nothing, >Working the whole day through, >Trying to find lots of things not to do. > >I'm busy going nowhere, >Isn't it such a crime, >I'd like to be unhappy but... >I never do have the time..." > >And I think that says it all.... > >I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it > >jingles I've been very busy doing just that since I retired. Can be tiring though, must take a nap now and then. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 19 Oct 2003 02:54:51 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.149.73.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.149.73) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066532091 27719000 67.74.149.73 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 X-Face: 0x^RJWTK_1>}lg[_W(2k/7A{Xkd}p$*&wcqZ}m+&7#7NMlz=ff70^l\7]j_9?w}V5lp;MC\vWfmn7GNx`w wrote in news:Xns9418CF8918DABFaynospamnet@216.168.3.44: > Jan wrote in > news:bmb3pvk5mh397ikfadoorl7mim57l0n1qf@4ax.com: >>> >>>He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >>>Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. >> >> Not a big deal. Allah, God, Yahweh, Jehovah are all names for the >> same something. Just because he happens to think God is superior to >> Allah is not reason enough to censure him in my opinion. The >> muslims seem to think that Allah is superior. > > My God does not run a virgin whore house for murdering suicide > terrorist. My God says sucide is a sin. > My God says murder is a sin. > My God does not reward terrorist. > My God send all of the above to burn in HELL for all eternity. > Dear Fay, Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding your God. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this? I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not Canadians. Can you clarify? I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself? A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than Allah. -- N 30.21, W 97.81 The arts are the salt of the earth; as salt relates to food, the arts relate to technology. ~~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: The English are Best Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:55:15 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.115.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066532118 64.231.115.126 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:55:18 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:55:18 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 2146 Lines: 63 Thanks to Flanders and Swan. Says it all really. The English (Flanders & Swan) The rottenest bits of these islands of ours We've left in the hands of three unfriendly powers Examine the Irishman, Welshman or Scot You'll find he's a stinker as likely as not The English the English the English are best I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest The Scotsman is mean as we're all well aware He's boney and blotchy and covered with hair He eats salty porridge, he works all the day And hasn't got bishops to show him the way The English the English the English are best I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest The Irishman now our contempt is beneath He sleeps in his boots and he lies through his teeth He blows up policemen or so I have heard And blames it on Cromwell and William the Third The English are moral the English are good And clever and modest and misunderstood The Welshman's dishonest, he cheats when he can He's little and dark more like monkey than man He works underground with a lamp on his hat And sings far too loud, far too often and flat The English the English the English are best I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest And crossing the channel one cannot say much For the French or the Spanish, the Danish or Dutch The Germans are German, the Russians are red And the Greeks and Italians eat garlic in bed The English are noble, the English are nice And worth any other at double the price And all the world over each nation's the same They've simply no notion of playing the game They argue with umpires, they cheer when they've won And they practice before hand which spoils all the fun The English the English the English are best I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest It's not that they're wicked or naturally bad It's just that they're foreign that makes them so mad The English are all that a nation should be And the pride of the English are Chipper and me The English the English the English are best I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The English are Best Date: 19 Oct 2003 03:36:18 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.149.73.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.149.73) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066534578 27621688 67.74.149.73 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 3328 Lines: 89 Jan wrote in news:u5v3pv0vbonlf5l7r5kevniijfgaojgu9q@4ax.com: > Thanks to Flanders and Swan. Says it all really. > > The English > (Flanders & Swan) > > The rottenest bits of these islands of ours > We've left in the hands of three unfriendly powers > Examine the Irishman, Welshman or Scot > You'll find he's a stinker as likely as not > > The English the English the English are best > I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest > > The Scotsman is mean as we're all well aware > He's boney and blotchy and covered with hair > He eats salty porridge, he works all the day > And hasn't got bishops to show him the way > > The English the English the English are best > I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest > > The Irishman now our contempt is beneath > He sleeps in his boots and he lies through his teeth > He blows up policemen or so I have heard > And blames it on Cromwell and William the Third > > The English are moral the English are good > And clever and modest and misunderstood > > The Welshman's dishonest, he cheats when he can > He's little and dark more like monkey than man > He works underground with a lamp on his hat > And sings far too loud, far too often and flat > > The English the English the English are best > I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest > > And crossing the channel one cannot say much > For the French or the Spanish, the Danish or Dutch > The Germans are German, the Russians are red > And the Greeks and Italians eat garlic in bed > > The English are noble, the English are nice > And worth any other at double the price > > And all the world over each nation's the same > They've simply no notion of playing the game > They argue with umpires, they cheer when they've won > And they practice before hand which spoils all the fun > > The English the English the English are best > I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest > > It's not that they're wicked or naturally bad > It's just that they're foreign that makes them so mad > The English are all that a nation should be > And the pride of the English are Chipper and me > > The English the English the English are best > I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest > > Jan > "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" > I love Flanders and Swan It isn't just the Irish who had an axe to grind with Oliver Cromwell. "England's long history of being ruled by monarchs was briefly interrupted in the 17th century, when Puritan military hero Oliver Cromwell ruled over a fledgling republic. It was a republic in name only; and Cromwell ruled briefly as a dictator, called the Lord Protector, from 1653 until his death in 1658. A few years after his death, the country had returned to a monarchy under King Charles II. Cromwell's body was removed from its burial place at Westminster Abbey and descrated. His head was severed and stuck on a pole, where it stayed for twenty years -- a potent warning against dissidents. His head was eventually recovered and reburied in 1960, but nobody knows what happened to the rest of his body." Dink -- N 30.21, W 97.81 The arts are the salt of the earth; as salt relates to food, the arts relate to technology. ~~ Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:37:45 GMT Message-ID: <3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> <3Imkb.184087$0v4.14215647@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-088.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.88) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066534667 27791705 203.87.44.88 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2039 Lines: 62 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net... >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >> >> >"jingles" wrote in message >> >news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >What chores are you doing today? >> >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >> >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >> >> >so confused. (lol) >> >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >> >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >> >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. >> >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you >> >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? >> >> >---Sea >> >> >> >> "I'm busy doing nothing, >> >> Working the whole day through, >> >> Trying to find lots of things not to do. >> >> >> >> I'm busy going nowhere, >> >> Isn't it such a crime, >> >> I'd like to be unhappy but... >> >> I never do have the time..." >> >> >> >> And I think that says it all.... >> >> >> >> I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it >> >> >> >> jingles >> > >> >Onya, Jingles! >> > >> >Joy >> >> "I have to wake the sun up, >> He's liable to sleep all day, >> And ring a round the rosebuds, >> So they'll be bright and gay, >> I told my friend the robin, I'd buy him a brand new vest, >> Hustle Bustle, I wish I could take a rest..." >> >> (Courtesy Bing Crosby in (I think) a Yankee at the Court of King >> Arthur) > >I think it might have been Danny Kaye. > >Joy I was working from memory so thought I would check it out....A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court with Der Bingle, Cedric Hardwicke, William Bendix and Rhonda Fleming.....now I have to be sure I put the right song in the right movie jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:39:42 GMT Message-ID: <3f920724.19036899@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-088.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.88) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066534784 27791705 203.87.44.88 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1371 Lines: 45 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:49:10 -0400, Jan wrote: >On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:03:44 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > >>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" >> wrote: >> >>>What chores are you doing today? >>>I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >>>to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >>>so confused. (lol) >>>Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >>>things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >>>from our move and things are piling up around here. >>>Let me add another question: What chores would you >>>*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? >>>---Sea >> >>"I'm busy doing nothing, >>Working the whole day through, >>Trying to find lots of things not to do. >> >>I'm busy going nowhere, >>Isn't it such a crime, >>I'd like to be unhappy but... >>I never do have the time..." >> >>And I think that says it all.... >> >>I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it >> >>jingles > >I've been very busy doing just that since I retired. Can be tiring >though, must take a nap now and then. > >Jan >"If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" I fully agree....one must keep one's strength up ... jingles - (who just split an infinitive and thought 'What the heck!') From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:40:59 GMT Message-ID: <3f920793.19147758@news.individual.net> References: Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-088.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.88) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066534860 27791705 203.87.44.88 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1080 Lines: 35 Christine, nice to see you popping in. How are all those little kiddies of yours? jingles On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:19:51 GMT, little bunny fu-fu wrote: >In article , seadancer1934 >@yahoo.com says... >> What chores are you doing today? >> I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >> to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >> so confused. (lol) >> Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >> things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >> from our move and things are piling up around here. >> Let me add another question: What chores would you >> *like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? > >today I'm ignoring everything that needs to be done....tomorrow I might >do the same. meheh....it's so much less stressful that way. > >-- > >Christine > >if you want to feel rich, look at all the things you have that money >can't buy > >Destiny sketches out our lifes blueprint with >the pencil of our perceptions...... Erase the limiting ones. > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:42:54 GMT Message-ID: <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <8pk9ov88v9rs4cuu9o54vlcgovg91v4l42@4ax.com> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-088.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.88) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066534975 27791705 203.87.44.88 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1479 Lines: 40 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:36:00 +0100, Gordon wrote: >~~seadancer~~ wrote >> >>Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. >>(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) > >Yes, we know dear, Sinclair disappeared about the same time as you did, >so blatant, so obvious........ > >Presumably he is still too exhausted to write, so you must have been 'de >trop' for him..... >I shall just have to accept the fact that our relationship is over. Ahem! Ahem! I am always standing in the wings.... jingles > >>Your words "road closures" reminded me of how our son >>and 7 year old grandson have done group bike rides >>(not races) in NYC. I believe they have special days for these >>when they close off certain roads. I was amazed when I >>heard my grandson had taken part. Since our son and his >>family live almost two hours north of NYC, it was quite a >>full day for them. They drove down to the city with their >>bikes hitched to the car. I believe the Staten Island Ferry >>was part of their itinerary. >>I wonder how many cities or towns close off roads on >>special days for the enjoyment of bike riders. >>---Sea >> >Not many, but an excellent example for others. Some of our towns and >cities have made their shopping precincts pedestrian only now, although >there are car parks adjacent. It makes for a more relaxed shopping >experience, provided you can avoid the cyclists. ;-) >-- >Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:50:03 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <8qb8ovgrk30t0dr23bufiv2il5c2luvs5k@4ax.com> <10694-3F9145BB-26@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 331 Lines: 14 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:52:59 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >Eugene - - finally, a voice of reason. You are so correct in your >response to Gordon. Olly Good to see you back Oilly. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Fay Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:52:49 -0000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1004 Lines: 27 Jan wrote in news:v1t3pvkvaf3mb4g1q80h9gue6ukfu9rfar@4ax.com: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:24:14 -0000, Fay wrote: > >>Jan wrote in >>news:bmb3pvk5mh397ikfadoorl7mim57l0n1qf@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >>>>Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. >>> >>> Not a big deal. Allah, God, Yahweh, Jehovah are all names for the same >>> something. Just because he happens to think God is superior to Allah >>> is not reason enough to censure him in my opinion. The muslims seem >>> to think that Allah is superior. >> >>My God does not run a virgin whore house for murdering suicide terrorist. >>My God says sucide is a sin. >>My God says murder is a sin. >>My God does not reward terrorist. >>My God send all of the above to burn in HELL for all eternity. > > Good for your God You have the right to beieve anything you want. I was just stating what I believe. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Fay Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 05:04:42 -0000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 275 Lines: 7 Dink wrote in news:Xns9418DEEB9D7A0frijoles@130.133.1.4: > I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you > can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than > Allah. My God doesn't reward murder or suicide. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 00:09:53 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <5564pvgqg140o6hd8othbbq6g4juansakg@4ax.com> References: <5jirovcimus6uitlgrf6ivqmacj27job2d@4ax.com> <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1175 Lines: 28 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:54:24 -0500 (CDT), jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Eugene wrote: "I'll go along with that. >However, I think if you will check you will find I start very few >threads. Unless I overlooked one I can find only one thread I started >that had anything to do with politics; "The California Recall and how I >would vote".   The rest concerned jokes. >I also think you will find that I have not traded many, if any, insults. >( I suppose that depends on what you call an insult. ) >You will find that I respond to political post that I find in error, or >insults, my country or president." >************************************** >Didn't say you started anything. Go back and read what I wrote. I >mentioned those names particularly because their owners seemed to be >completely riled up. And it is insulting to try to impose one's views >on another. Jeanette I more or less enjoy the exchanges. I am sorry you do not. If I was all riled up I might take the stand that you are attempting to impose your views on us. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 00:28:00 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 3090 Lines: 77 On 19 Oct 2003 02:54:51 GMT, Dink wrote: >Fay wrote in >news:Xns9418CF8918DABFaynospamnet@216.168.3.44: > >> Jan wrote in >> news:bmb3pvk5mh397ikfadoorl7mim57l0n1qf@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >>>>Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. >>> >>> Not a big deal. Allah, God, Yahweh, Jehovah are all names for the >>> same something. Just because he happens to think God is superior to >>> Allah is not reason enough to censure him in my opinion. The >>> muslims seem to think that Allah is superior. >> >> My God does not run a virgin whore house for murdering suicide >> terrorist. My God says sucide is a sin. >> My God says murder is a sin. >> My God does not reward terrorist. >> My God send all of the above to burn in HELL for all eternity. >> > >Dear Fay, > >Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding your God. >I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that >knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend >the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that >Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. >I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the >specific laws and how to best follow them. > >When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a >pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They >claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this? > >I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus >21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for >her? > >I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her >period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how >do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. > >Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around >us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not >Canadians. Can you clarify? > >I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 >clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill >him myself? > >A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an >abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. >I don't agree. Can you settle this? > >Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a >defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my >vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? > >I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you >can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than >Allah. Simple. It is the old testament you are quoting. If you are a Christian you go by the New Testament. If you are an atheist just forget it. You are own your on. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:23 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 00:28:54 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 564 Lines: 21 On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:59:05 -0400, "Joan F \(MI\)" wrote: >You mean it was God who messed up the Florida votes? I would never have >guessed! Nope, he is the one that got it straight. > >"Dink" wrote in message >news:Xns94173228FEAD9frijoles@130.133.1.4... >God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden >By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) >http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 00:42:37 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <19m2pvgs40caor4ncoe6ml77uvgnuhi1ai@4ax.com> <3F9184C8.4096C75F@bellsouth.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 2026 Lines: 55 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:22:00 -0400, Shirley wrote: > > >"Eugene A. Calame" wrote: > >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" >> wrote: >> >> >What chores are you doing today? >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >> >so confused. (lol) >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? >> >---Sea >> > >> No real chores today (morning) until I go to work at about 3:30pm. One of the >> two days a week I work. If you can call sitting on a bus taking care of a dozen >> or so visually impaired kids from San Antonio to Austin work. More of a fun >> trip. >> >> However, the beautiful Rosa will have plenty for me to do when I get back. The >> good thing about that is the priorities will already be decided. :-) >> >> -- >> Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com >> Austin, Texas USA >> >> Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends > >Where did the kids go on their trip? > The Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impared, located here in Austin, sends the kids home each weekend if they wish to go. We take them down on Friday and return them Sunday evening. I, and usually two others, ride with them as Weekend Escorts. Mainly we keep them from fighting, help with rest stop breaks, and other things that normal kids do. The entire trip, there and back, takes about 5 hours. Now I have to confess. I was still sleeply when I wrote the above and got my days mixed up. The trip is Sunday. ( I'll probably forget and be late tomorrow; today since it is past Midnight and already Sunday) -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 00:49:59 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <5c94pvc523o1lflcpgadneeqpqptdmojm8@4ax.com> References: <8qb8ovgrk30t0dr23bufiv2il5c2luvs5k@4ax.com> <10694-3F9145BB-26@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 548 Lines: 22 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:50:03 -0500, Eugene A. Calame wrote: >On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:52:59 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: > >>Eugene - - finally, a voice of reason. You are so correct in your >>response to Gordon. Olly > > >Good to see you back Oilly. Sorry about that "i" in your name. I am a terrible typist and proof reader. Let me try it again. Good to see you back Olly. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> <3Imkb.184087$0v4.14215647@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 05:53:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.74.149.94 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066542828 67.74.149.94 (Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:53:48 PDT) forspam@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:53:48 PDT Status: O Content-Length: 2251 Lines: 69 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:37:45 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > >>"jingles" wrote in message >>news:3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net... >>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >>> >>> >"jingles" wrote in message >>> >news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... >>> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >What chores are you doing today? >>> >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >>> >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >>> >> >so confused. (lol) >>> >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >>> >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >>> >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. >>> >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you >>> >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? >>> >> >---Sea >>> >> >>> >> "I'm busy doing nothing, >>> >> Working the whole day through, >>> >> Trying to find lots of things not to do. >>> >> >>> >> I'm busy going nowhere, >>> >> Isn't it such a crime, >>> >> I'd like to be unhappy but... >>> >> I never do have the time..." >>> >> >>> >> And I think that says it all.... >>> >> >>> >> I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it >>> >> >>> >> jingles >>> > >>> >Onya, Jingles! >>> > >>> >Joy >>> >>> "I have to wake the sun up, >>> He's liable to sleep all day, >>> And ring a round the rosebuds, >>> So they'll be bright and gay, >>> I told my friend the robin, I'd buy him a brand new vest, >>> Hustle Bustle, I wish I could take a rest..." >>> >>> (Courtesy Bing Crosby in (I think) a Yankee at the Court of King >>> Arthur) >> >>I think it might have been Danny Kaye. >> >>Joy > >I was working from memory so thought I would check it out....A >Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court with Der Bingle, Cedric >Hardwicke, William Bendix and Rhonda Fleming.....now I have to be sure >I put the right song in the right movie > >jingles You did. The song title is "Busy Doing Nothing". Dink N 30.21, W 97.81 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:18:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066544339 27828574 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 446 Lines: 18 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >LOL! Oh, Gordon, was it so very obvious? > >I'm so ashamed. And now he's left me. > >Gone from my life forever. > >Will you take me back? > >I'm begging you. ROTFL > >---Sea > > > Well, If you just stop ROTF for a moment I'll show you! > Gordon Gordon, You'll have to learn one thing... Never stop me when I'm on a roll. (lol) ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> <3Imkb.184087$0v4.14215647@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 06:18:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.102 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066544312 32.103.153.102 (Sun, 19 Oct 2003 06:18:32 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 06:18:32 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2489 Lines: 73 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net... > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > >"jingles" wrote in message > >news:3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net... > >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > >> > >> >"jingles" wrote in message > >> >news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... > >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >What chores are you doing today? > >> >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where > >> >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm > >> >> >so confused. (lol) > >> >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put > >> >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking > >> >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. > >> >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you > >> >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? > >> >> >---Sea > >> >> > >> >> "I'm busy doing nothing, > >> >> Working the whole day through, > >> >> Trying to find lots of things not to do. > >> >> > >> >> I'm busy going nowhere, > >> >> Isn't it such a crime, > >> >> I'd like to be unhappy but... > >> >> I never do have the time..." > >> >> > >> >> And I think that says it all.... > >> >> > >> >> I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it > >> >> > >> >> jingles > >> > > >> >Onya, Jingles! > >> > > >> >Joy > >> > >> "I have to wake the sun up, > >> He's liable to sleep all day, > >> And ring a round the rosebuds, > >> So they'll be bright and gay, > >> I told my friend the robin, I'd buy him a brand new vest, > >> Hustle Bustle, I wish I could take a rest..." > >> > >> (Courtesy Bing Crosby in (I think) a Yankee at the Court of King > >> Arthur) > > > >I think it might have been Danny Kaye. > > > >Joy > > I was working from memory so thought I would check it out....A > Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court with Der Bingle, Cedric > Hardwicke, William Bendix and Rhonda Fleming.....now I have to be sure > I put the right song in the right movie > > jingles Verrry interesting. I wonder if Danny Kaye did a remake, or maybe made a similar movie. I'm sure I remember him in that role, or one like it. I'm surprised I didn't remember it was Bing, because I was a great fan of his. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:30:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <24GVlNAi+Yk$Ewhw@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066545090 27525868 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1474 Lines: 33 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote [...] > >Does that mean that the shoppers have to carry their > >packages a long way to their cars? > >Yes - we have developed a new strain of humans over here with legs. >Usually there are multi-storey car parks very close. [...] >There are some disused railway tracks in Derbyshire which have been >converted into walking/cycling routes, but the tunnels have been blocked >off, requiring a couple of detours. On of them has a long incline, up >which the engines and trains were hauled by a wire rope from a winding >station at the top because the gradient was too steep for a steam train >to climb. This is a delightful walk in Autumn, when the leaves have >turned to gold and half of them have fallen, an arch of gold overhead >and a carpet of gold beneath, but the timing has to be right or all the >leaves have fallen. >Gordon You've reminded me that we also have had some former railway track areas converted to walking/riding paths. In fact, after our boys grew up, they told us that they often used that as the path to town, even before it was converted completely. We often learn quite a bit about our kids this way now. It's fun to hear what they used to do without telling us. As for the new strain of humans with legs over there, I think you are a new strain too. (lol) But of what, I don't know. I haven't figured that out yet. (lol) (No, I did NOT say you are a strain. ) ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:37:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <8pk9ov88v9rs4cuu9o54vlcgovg91v4l42@4ax.com> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066545470 28230320 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 646 Lines: 20 "jingles" wrote > >~~seadancer~~ wrote > >>Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. > >>(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) > > >>Yes, we know dear, Sinclair disappeared about the same >>time as you did, so blatant, so obvious........ >>Presumably he is still too exhausted to write, so you must >>have been 'de trop' for him..... >>I shall just have to accept the fact that our relationship is over. > Ahem! Ahem! I am always standing in the wings.... > jingles Jingles, Since Gordon likes wings, you may see him fly by on his way to see M****. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:40:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20031013135656.29144.00000331@mb-m12.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066545841 27714775 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1222 Lines: 38 "Gordon" wrote > >"Marian" wrote > >> [Sinclair...]>> > In Australia In 1975 Gough Whitlam became the only > >Prime Minister to be removed from office by the Governor-General, > >> >> > the Queen's reprehensive in Australia. > >> > >> >> The Queen's "reprehensive", eh? Is that a political statement? > >> >> GRIN > >> >> bob > >> > >> >LOL! Good one, Bob. > >> >I knew Sinclair's statement didn't sound right. > >> >But, if you talk fast, the word "representative" can sound > >> >very much like "reprehensive". > >> >Besides, I think Sinclair talks several different languages. > >> >So he can be forgiven this time. > >> >Sinclair, how many languages do you speak? > >> >What was your first language? > >> >What language do you speak mostly now? > >> >---Sea, who is fluent only in English... > >> > >> ? I assumed Sinclair used "reprehensive" deliberately. Marian > > > >Yes, I'm beginning to think so too. > >---Sea > > > > What Gordon thought on Sunday 12th October at 16:48, the rest of the > world picks up on Monday 13th. ;-) > > Gordon Well, Gordon, We didn't want to jump to any conclusions. We had to think it out first. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:56:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <19m2pvgs40caor4ncoe6ml77uvgnuhi1ai@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066546765 27703532 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 652 Lines: 20 "Eugene A. Calame" wrote > No real chores today (morning) until I go to work at about 3:30pm. One of the > two days a week I work. If you can call sitting on a bus taking care of a dozen > or so visually impaired kids from San Antonio to Austin work. More of a fun > trip. > However, the beautiful Rosa will have plenty for me to do when I get back. The > good thing about that is the priorities will already be decided. :-) > Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com > Austin, Texas USA Yes, it's true that things seem easier when we're focused on the priorities. When one has too much to do, it gets overwhelming. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:59:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066546766 27703532 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 886 Lines: 20 "Yoj" wrote > I have to do some token house-cleaning, because my kids are coming over > tomorrow. I'm really excited - we're getting together to celebrate my > daughter and SIL's anniversary, but all three of "my" kids are going to > come to the church to see the presentation I'm giving after church. It > will be a combination of two speeches I've done for Toastmasters - > "Animal Adventures in Australia", complete with photos, and a humorous > speech called "Strine 101". My son and daughter came to my first Area > contest. Otherwise, they've never heard me speak in public. After the > presentation, we're going out to brunch. > Joy Sounds great, Joy. I have to admire the energy you have for Toastmasters. I plan to give my Icebreaker speech on Monday and I'm starting to get a bit tense about it. Sometimes I ask myself: "Who needs this?" LOL ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:00:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066546952 28038394 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 952 Lines: 29 "jingles" wrote > wrote: > >What chores are you doing today? > >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where > >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm > >so confused. (lol) > >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put > >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking > >from our move and things are piling up around here. > >Let me add another question: What chores would you > >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? > >---Sea > > "I'm busy doing nothing, > Working the whole day through, > Trying to find lots of things not to do. > I'm busy going nowhere, > Isn't it such a crime, > I'd like to be unhappy but... > I never do have the time..." > And I think that says it all.... > I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it > jingles I love those lyrics, Jingles. I had forgotten that song. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:01:55 GMT Message-ID: <3f92342a.30564459@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> <3Imkb.184087$0v4.14215647@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-088.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.88) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066546922 27993011 203.87.44.88 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2840 Lines: 84 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 06:18:32 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net... >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >> >> >"jingles" wrote in message >> >news:3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net... >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >> >> >> >> >"jingles" wrote in message >> >> >news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... >> >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >What chores are you doing today? >> >> >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >> >> >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >> >> >> >so confused. (lol) >> >> >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >> >> >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >> >> >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. >> >> >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you >> >> >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? >> >> >> >---Sea >> >> >> >> >> >> "I'm busy doing nothing, >> >> >> Working the whole day through, >> >> >> Trying to find lots of things not to do. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm busy going nowhere, >> >> >> Isn't it such a crime, >> >> >> I'd like to be unhappy but... >> >> >> I never do have the time..." >> >> >> >> >> >> And I think that says it all.... >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving >it >> >> >> >> >> >> jingles >> >> > >> >> >Onya, Jingles! >> >> > >> >> >Joy >> >> >> >> "I have to wake the sun up, >> >> He's liable to sleep all day, >> >> And ring a round the rosebuds, >> >> So they'll be bright and gay, >> >> I told my friend the robin, I'd buy him a brand new vest, >> >> Hustle Bustle, I wish I could take a rest..." >> >> >> >> (Courtesy Bing Crosby in (I think) a Yankee at the Court of King >> >> Arthur) >> > >> >I think it might have been Danny Kaye. >> > >> >Joy >> >> I was working from memory so thought I would check it out....A >> Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court with Der Bingle, Cedric >> Hardwicke, William Bendix and Rhonda Fleming.....now I have to be sure >> I put the right song in the right movie >> >> jingles > >Verrry interesting. I wonder if Danny Kaye did a remake, or maybe made >a similar movie. I'm sure I remember him in that role, or one like it. >I'm surprised I didn't remember it was Bing, because I was a great fan >of his. > >Joy The movie was made in 1949 and I don think a remake was made of it. But Danny Kaye did make a film called The Court Jester.... I was a great fan of Danny Kaye..... and I think I saw all his movies... jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:24 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:13:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.102 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066547596 32.103.153.102 (Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:13:16 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:13:16 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1289 Lines: 36 "~~seadancer~~" wrote in message news:bmtcod$qde7c$2@ID-178699.news.uni-berlin.de... > "Yoj" wrote > > I have to do some token house-cleaning, because my kids are coming over > > tomorrow. I'm really excited - we're getting together to celebrate my > > daughter and SIL's anniversary, but all three of "my" kids are going to > > come to the church to see the presentation I'm giving after church. It > > will be a combination of two speeches I've done for Toastmasters - > > "Animal Adventures in Australia", complete with photos, and a humorous > > speech called "Strine 101". My son and daughter came to my first Area > > contest. Otherwise, they've never heard me speak in public. After the > > presentation, we're going out to brunch. > > Joy > > Sounds great, Joy. > I have to admire the energy you have for Toastmasters. > I plan to give my Icebreaker speech on Monday and > I'm starting to get a bit tense about it. Sometimes I ask > myself: "Who needs this?" LOL > ---Sea I'm betting you'll do a good job and be totally exhilarated by the experience - especially after you get some nice comments from other members. As my son used to tell me (and his Dad when he was competing in a quartet contest), "break a tonsil". Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> <3Imkb.184087$0v4.14215647@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net> <3f92342a.30564459@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:14:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.102 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066547686 32.103.153.102 (Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:14:46 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:14:46 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 3313 Lines: 97 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f92342a.30564459@news.individual.net... > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 06:18:32 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > >"jingles" wrote in message > >news:3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net... > >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > >> > >> >"jingles" wrote in message > >> >news:3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net... > >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >"jingles" wrote in message > >> >> >news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... > >> >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >What chores are you doing today? > >> >> >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where > >> >> >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm > >> >> >> >so confused. (lol) > >> >> >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put > >> >> >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking > >> >> >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. > >> >> >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you > >> >> >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them today? > >> >> >> >---Sea > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "I'm busy doing nothing, > >> >> >> Working the whole day through, > >> >> >> Trying to find lots of things not to do. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'm busy going nowhere, > >> >> >> Isn't it such a crime, > >> >> >> I'd like to be unhappy but... > >> >> >> I never do have the time..." > >> >> >> > >> >> >> And I think that says it all.... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving > >it > >> >> >> > >> >> >> jingles > >> >> > > >> >> >Onya, Jingles! > >> >> > > >> >> >Joy > >> >> > >> >> "I have to wake the sun up, > >> >> He's liable to sleep all day, > >> >> And ring a round the rosebuds, > >> >> So they'll be bright and gay, > >> >> I told my friend the robin, I'd buy him a brand new vest, > >> >> Hustle Bustle, I wish I could take a rest..." > >> >> > >> >> (Courtesy Bing Crosby in (I think) a Yankee at the Court of King > >> >> Arthur) > >> > > >> >I think it might have been Danny Kaye. > >> > > >> >Joy > >> > >> I was working from memory so thought I would check it out....A > >> Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court with Der Bingle, Cedric > >> Hardwicke, William Bendix and Rhonda Fleming.....now I have to be sure > >> I put the right song in the right movie > >> > >> jingles > > > >Verrry interesting. I wonder if Danny Kaye did a remake, or maybe made > >a similar movie. I'm sure I remember him in that role, or one like it. > >I'm surprised I didn't remember it was Bing, because I was a great fan > >of his. > > > >Joy > > The movie was made in 1949 and I don think a remake was made of it. > But Danny Kaye did make a film called The Court Jester.... > I was a great fan of Danny Kaye..... and I think I saw all his > movies... > > jingles I'll bet that's the movie I'm thinking of. Yes, I loved Danny Kaye too. Mostly I liked Bing's singing, although I enjoyed his movies too, but there was something about Danny Kaye's personality that was special. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:26:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066551995 28159136 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1254 Lines: 32 "Yoj" wrote > "~~seadancer~~" wrote > > Sounds great, Joy. > > I have to admire the energy you have for Toastmasters. > > I plan to give my Icebreaker speech on Monday and > > I'm starting to get a bit tense about it. Sometimes I ask > > myself: "Who needs this?" LOL > > ---Sea > > I'm betting you'll do a good job and be totally exhilarated by the > experience - especially after you get some nice comments from other > members. As my son used to tell me (and his Dad when he was competing > in a quartet contest), "break a tonsil". > Joy Thanks, Joy. I have to remember to relax my throat or I *will* break a tonsil. Actually, I think the Icebreaker must be the easiest speech because it's so easy to talk about ourselves. No need to memorize very much. Probably the speech which needs the most rehearsing is a joke, because a joke, if it isn't worded just so, can fall flat. I understand that even some numbers are funnier than others. For example, I think that "thirty-three" is funnier than "eighteen". More rhythm for one thing. And the punch line must be worded correctly and delivered well. Timing is everything in comedy. I'd rather talk about myself than tell a joke. (lol) ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:32:06 +0100 Organization: pretty good Sender: valon@laptop.net Message-ID: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Reply-To: valon@laptop.net NNTP-Posting-Host: copelands.plus.com (81.174.148.186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066552326 27222723 81.174.148.186 (16 [144431]) User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.7.1 (4e6a6fd5.95.393) X-Face: *`~?aqnHRe>Q\~c\W)4lYtI0AU[jzd$QoZJw8cb>?D2rWS\vy:4FV,l{@XxvY>J3qwcIX~<6\ZX%z"x=@%62;9U8vshJ2.`e1COBkrHlb%y`f'.!TB&6K|;M)&v>:2&l3DZsL19Qja kTT[Fk~+R3s'N4x`G]-a;3rhT^m/IbCIyl2/6`iXU$'UO;\q;T2GP~@Glkak&oL.Gk~^0g:Z:jx3t9!SMyMC2]Ubwtf^kK X-no-archive: yes X-Val: on her laptop Status: O Content-Length: 104 Lines: 7 E N G L A N D Oi Oi Oi LOL Now on to Melbourne! -- val at copelands.co.uk http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:56:22 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066553317 14491 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 2665 Lines: 61 > >>>He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and > >>>Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. > >> > >> Not a big deal. Allah, God, Yahweh, Jehovah are all names for the > >> same something. Just because he happens to think God is superior to > >> Allah is not reason enough to censure him in my opinion. The > >> muslims seem to think that Allah is superior. > > > > My God does not run a virgin whore house for murdering suicide > > terrorist. My God says sucide is a sin. > > My God says murder is a sin. > > My God does not reward terrorist. > > My God send all of the above to burn in HELL for all eternity. > > > > Dear Fay, > > Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding your God. > I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that > knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend > the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that > Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. > I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the > specific laws and how to best follow them. > > When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a > pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They > claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this? > > I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus > 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for > her? > > I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her > period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how > do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. > > Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around > us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not > Canadians. Can you clarify? > > I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 > clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill > him myself? > > A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an > abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. > I don't agree. Can you settle this? > > Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a > defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my > vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? > > I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you > can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than > Allah. ================== Dink......that was excellent.....excellent! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <10696-3F91453F-7@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3c122aad.0310181026.a8058ae@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:00:13 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f9250c9$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066553545 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1373 Lines: 28 > > Gordon - - Hi!! Well, yours is faulty reasoning!!! > > ====1) your claim that, had Bush not been elected, there would have > > been less terror upon our nation. What on earth brought you to that > > conclusion?? The terror campaign against the U.S. had been planned > > long, long before Bush was elected. > > ====2) the Arab nations are not ignorant - you said. Oh, but yes, they > > are. they are obsessed in their ignorance. > > ====3) you claimed that Israel would become even more belligerent since > > they knew Bush would approve ,etc. Wrong again. first of all, Israel's > > actions are IN RESPONSE only to the Palestinians' suicide bombings - and > > you know that - eveyone does. Secondly, Israel had approval under all > > our former Presidents, not just Bush, and yet, when and if they went too > > far - in our eyes - they were reprimanded - under all our Presidents. > > Gordon - try to have facts rule your bias. > > Olly > > Yea ok but no other President has launched pre emptive attacks. > Israel's actions are awful and they are not in responce to anything. > They have disregarded more UN Securty council resolution than Saddam > Isreal is obsessed in it's own ignorance. You try to have the facts. > You are the one who is wrong. The united states attacked Iraq to > protect Israel. Rod ========= I agree with you Rod....... Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <10694-3F9148EF-32@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3c122aad.0310180919.68822d1d@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:03:52 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f9251a4$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066553764 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1034 Lines: 22 > > Goron - again, a murky memory on your part. Most of the dreadful events > > which have happened (by the terrorists) happened BEFORE Bush took > > office. some afterwards.==suicide bombings in Israel, for instance, has > > been happening under several previous regimes - but has not stopped yet. > > The other points you made are accurate. Let us resolve to be accurate > > in ALL statements.====Olly > > Let's be accurate The suicide bombing in Israel were started when > Sharon got aggressive. Israel has ignored the UN violated many UN > Security Council resolutions and been rewarded with guns and money. > The Arabs and Israelis are as bad as each other. Do you know you go to > jail in Israel if you preach Christianity. Rod =========== I had heard that Rod....about going to jail if you preach Christianity. In re suicide bombings, I agree with you. The Israeli's have modern guns which they have purchased with US money. The Palestinians don't have that so they use the only weapon they have...a suicide bomb. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066554006 14491 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 199 Lines: 15 > E N G L A N D > Oi Oi Oi LOL > > Now on to Melbourne! > -- > val =========== Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 19 Oct 2003 06:14:34 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.38.146.103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066569275 3827 127.0.0.1 (19 Oct 2003 13:14:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 580 Lines: 17 Jan wrote in message news:... > > People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. > This is just another rabid US media storm in a tea-cup. It will pass. Just like our presence in Iraq? Which the President promised would not be long? When the President promised we would not be involved in nation-building? Sadly, you are right, this will pass. Under Bush's war against Muslin fanatics, Christian fanatics are perfectly okay to him and many US citizens. So pitiful. -The Lady From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:13:42 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQXr9gGcUJbOV4aUcCgnlj9lA/9MAIUI/B1VBJr/GJHJs/lvlvlpF354Sc= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 484 Lines: 9 Hi to all you out there! I've stopped delving into the newsgroups with my primary email addy and have started using this hotmail one. The phoney MSN stuff stopped coming to my primary address, so decided to use this one to "fool" any web crawlers MSN installed a couple of new filters which seem to be working okay so far. I've received 4 of the phoney messages in this new address, right where I want to keep them. How are you other webbies handling the problem? Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:25:49 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18585-3F929EED-219@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQJqhGeoyEKbmXBE3vBGy/3bR1EAAIVAJshW7CXc13QclZZZEsdXGih2GG7 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 1128 Lines: 24 Val and Bobbie wte the following: "E N G L A N D Oi Oi Oi LOL Now on to Melbourne! -- val =========== Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! " *************************************** Has anyone seen the new "The Office"! It's pretty funny - that tall skinny looking blond haired guy with huge circles under his eyes, who is filled with his own self-importance, the stooge for David Brent. In the first episode, he gets on his phone and starts saying "Oggy Oggy Oggy and oink oink oink." Wonder if that is what he referring to, but no that would make sense, nd Gareth is such an idiot, eve more so than his boss. Also the staff from thebranch which was closed in Swindon, come to the office; David is still in charge but has anew boss. David starts his usual nonsense of strange noises and weird dances and nasty jokes; the newcomers report to David's boss that they are offended by his racist jokes. He is such a fool, he's funny. Tonight will be the 2nd of 6 episodes, I believe. It's an example of slapstick comedy, in my opinion. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:32:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066573970 28278614 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1050 Lines: 25 "Jeanette S." wrote > Hi to all you out there! I've stopped delving into > the newsgroups with my primary email addy and have started using this > hotmail one. The phoney MSN stuff stopped coming to my primary address, > so decided to use this one to "fool" any web crawlers MSN installed a > couple of new filters which seem to be working okay so far. I've > received 4 of the phoney messages in this new address, right where I > want to keep them. How are you other webbies handling the problem? > Jeanette Hi Jeanette, I learned a long time ago never to put my primary email addy out on a newsgroup. As you can see, I use a Yahoo addy instead. My Yahoo addy gets quite a bit of spam, but at least Yahoo dumps it all into a Bulk Folder for me and I can delete all of it with one click. It just takes constant monitoring if you don't wan't the Yahoo mailbox to fill up to max and reject incoming personal e-mail. Does Hotmail put all your spam into a Bulk Folder for you? I find that it's a tremendous help. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:36:01 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18586-3F92A151-78@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAqN7Vg6HZ+e7gyVPImK4p08a70+gCFExdMSG5LkMx9wulTIN3txZYb3Lf Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 296 Lines: 6 Eugene responded to a statement from Joy: "Where you frighten when President Clinton was president? He had all the above." ********************************************** He did? As I recall it,the majority leader was republican; the senate was controlled by republicans. Oh well... Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:25 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:48:11 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18585-3F92A42B-221@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3c122aad.0310180919.68822d1d@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQfoLYUXMQQl7hvt8H05bBowMM4tgIUSWdFzVJQ9MEI8pG0oTDrqKF2cjE= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 673 Lines: 12 Rod wrote: "Let's be accurate The suicide bombing in Israel were started when Sharon got aggressive. Israel has ignored the UN violated many UN Security Council resolutions and been rewarded with guns and money. The Arabs and Israelis are as bad as each other. Do you know you go to jail in Israel if you preach Christianity." ********************************************* Yes. The very fact that Israel was taking over other countries territory inflamed the Arab world; Sharon is not a nice man. It's as if my neighbor has his own property - he decides he wants to expand his own holding; so he just takes over my property and kicks me out. Is that just? Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:51:49 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18585-3F92A505-222@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRHOJnYfFyKN6PS5TpsagKAgbiPLgIVAIb8r7AmLGrW2Oje6tqW7570zNB6 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 209 Lines: 6 jingles wrote: "Ahem! Ahem! I am always standing in the wings...." ****************************************** Oh jingles - you're not "wing" material, but should always be enter front stage! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:56:27 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18585-3F92A61B-223@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRj6oJinbCegLBLAYnQhw0WO5Ue7gIUOI26uAxxdv0kG3yR3MjIz0QKZm0= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 435 Lines: 13 jingles wrote: ""I'm busy doing nothing, Working the whole day through, Trying to find lots of things not to do. I'm busy going nowhere, Isn't it such a crime, I'd like to be unhappy but... I never do have the time..." And I think that says it all.... I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it " ****************************************** So true jingles! I envy your talent for rhyming. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18585-3F92A87A-225@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <5564pvgqg140o6hd8othbbq6g4juansakg@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQnxmgt8+quoijgzxTCoKZDP7/YKgIVAKSC41FaPIZIHUtgtd63TPGq6jax Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 476 Lines: 10 Eugene wrote: "I more or less enjoy the exchanges. I am sorry you do not. If I was all riled up I might take the stand that you are attempting to impose your views on us." *************************************** I enjoy some of the posts for a while, then pick through them when the thread has gone on to me, seemingly forever. I have no view on most of the subjects that I wish to impos on others, but find myself answering some of the more "stirring" ones. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 19 Oct 2003 15:26:33 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.149.94.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.149.94) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066577193 28055228 67.74.149.94 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 386 Lines: 16 On 19 Oct 2003, you wrote in news:iu74pv4g5arda7ui707d35ql9gi99nbtiv@4ax.com: > > Simple. It is the old testament you are quoting. If you are a > Christian you go by the New Testament. > > If you are an atheist just forget it. You are own your on. > > When the Xtian fundies stop telling me what is in the O.T., I'll stop telling them what is in it. Dink -- N 30.21, W 97.81 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:29:59 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18587-3F92ADF7-30@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <20031013140415.29144.00000334@mb-m12.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRZIYi6zw5uOFsrqbpuyssGkzGyZwIVAMrnNh5bVQQKkXXb5vkHEqg6tFIW Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 492 Lines: 9 Marian or someone wrote: "You may be right, Joan. Makes sense, but I seem to remember that, at least, as far back as high school [mid-to-late fifties], I washed my hair at night while showering, put it up in rollers and slept on them..." ******************************************* Sorry I went blank between the pasting of the message and who wote it! I still remember those days - went on to the late 60's. Ouch! Just thinking about those bristley rollers makes my head hurt! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:34:04 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <18586-3F92A151-78@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 545 Lines: 18 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:36:01 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Eugene responded to a statement from Joy: "Where you frighten when >President Clinton was president? He had all the above." >********************************************** >He did? As I recall it,the majority leader was republican; the senate >was controlled by republicans. Oh well... Jeanette Not for the first two years. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:49:32 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310180919.68822d1d@posting.google.com> <18585-3F92A42B-221@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 953 Lines: 23 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:48:11 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Rod wrote: "Let's be accurate The suicide bombing in Israel were >started when Sharon got aggressive. Israel has ignored the UN violated >many UN Security Council resolutions and been rewarded with guns and >money. The Arabs and Israelis are as bad as each other. Do you know you >go to jail in Israel if you preach Christianity." >********************************************* >Yes. The very fact that Israel was taking over other countries >territory inflamed the Arab world; Sharon is not a nice man. It's as >if my neighbor has his own property - he decides he wants to expand his >own holding; so he just takes over my property and kicks me out. Is >that just? Jeanette If you were throwing bombs over his fence it would be. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18585-3F92B39D-229@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <6w0hf1rj9jv9.dlg@copelands.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAqkE2ybiT7m3ZGg8jTglVkjEreooCFEoevfGesCQ857EtmfYH1afoxzx6 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 554 Lines: 12 Val wrote: "Marmade is tinned seville oranges especially directed at the home marmalade making department. Nothing to do with butter or butter substitute Clotted cream is very thick fresh buttery type cream - not sweet or sour - just rich and creamy. I just love it on top of vanilla ice cream in a cone - to die for - sigh .......!" ****************************************** Thanks Val. There are some commercially made orange marmalades tat re delicious although I find most of them tasteless. I suppose I was thinking of "marmite"? Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:14:27 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18586-3F92B863-81@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3F8EAB3F.A620187D@rcn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQJXej7oN05MJZ+aSKZdRFfkP+X/QIUS7BK05k8dPreZIvfrYUks+irduQ= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 1125 Lines: 20 Jean B. wrote: "I'm glad I discovered such a strategy. It's easier, and everyone ends up happier. Even if *I* think what I want is obvious, it seems not to be to anyone else. My other good discovery was gift cards to books stores. I love to get them, and I assume any person I know to be a reader is happy to get one from me too." *****************************************888 Exactly. The only ones who aren't convinced are my childen, even though I tell them over and over - "Get me gift cards for books, whatever." They try to "dress" me, but unfortunately their tastes aren't mine! I don't want anymore knick-knacks and if I need clothing, I much prefer to pick them myself. This year all the son-in-laws are getting $20 gift certificates to book or video shops. I get hints from my daughters so I buy them gifts. I have 5 children, 4 son-in-laws and 1 on again, off again relationship between my son and his lady friend. Also have 11 grandchildren, 4 of whom are girls and the remainder boys. Some of the boys are over 21 now, three of them, (so I think this year they're going to get gift cards too! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:16:07 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 857 Lines: 30 On 19 Oct 2003 15:26:33 GMT, Dink wrote: >On 19 Oct 2003, you wrote in >news:iu74pv4g5arda7ui707d35ql9gi99nbtiv@4ax.com: > >> >> Simple. It is the old testament you are quoting. If you are a >> Christian you go by the New Testament. >> >> If you are an atheist just forget it. You are own your on. >> >> >When the Xtian fundies stop telling me what is in the O.T., I'll >stop telling them what is in it. > >Dink Feel free to do so. I just pointed out that your references, allowing many things that would be frowned on now, were from the Old Testament. I am not an expert on the New Testament but I do not think any of the quotes you gave from Leviticus or Exodus are encourged in the New Testament. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Syria Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:27:24 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18585-3F92BB6C-232@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <8ceib.7613$av5.4469@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQr+/uFuI3r7Igr+VpQr8C4GyfnnQIUR1J3Hr2+YBdlN1t12pwns5YlnAE= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 560 Lines: 10 bob wrote: "No, we went to war to enforce 17 consequitive UN Security Council Resolutions, all of which Saddam defied. We went to war because of continual violations of the Gulf War truce. We went to war to liberate the Iraqi people. We went to war because we saw the possibility of Saddam providing bio-chemical materiel to terrorists. We went to war because Saddam supported, funded and harbored terrorists." **************************************** Hmmm, I'm wondering why the UN didn't sanction the war, if that is the excuse for going to war. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:41 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.112.115 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066580985 64.231.112.115 (Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:45 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:45 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 5378 Lines: 116 On 19 Oct 2003 02:54:51 GMT, Dink wrote: >Fay wrote in >news:Xns9418CF8918DABFaynospamnet@216.168.3.44: > >> Jan wrote in >> news:bmb3pvk5mh397ikfadoorl7mim57l0n1qf@4ax.com: >> >> My God does not run a virgin whore house for murdering suicide >> terrorist. My God says sucide is a sin. >> My God says murder is a sin. >> My God does not reward terrorist. >> My God send all of the above to burn in HELL for all eternity. >> > >Dear Fay, > Dink my child, You appear to have some problems resolving certain questions of worship and adoration, may I, in suitable humble manner offer some possible solutions? >Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding your God. >I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that >knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend >the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that >Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. >I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the >specific laws and how to best follow them. > >When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a >pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They >claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this? In this day and age, with the price of beef so high, may I suggest the following adjustments while keeping the main principle. Substitute t-bone steak for bull and barbecue for altar. The odour will remain pleasing to the Lord, a burnt offering will be available and you could always invite your neighbour over for supper. This, I feel, will resolve three dilemmas, 1) The Lord, your God will be appeased with the odour from the burnt offering, 2) you will be fed and 3) your neighbour, instead of complaining, may even contribute some wine to the festivities thereby permitting you to love thy neighbour as thyself. > >I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus >21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for >her? If your daughter is anything like some of the foul-mouthed little brats I see fairly frequently, I would suggest taking any amount offered. Any price would be a fair price to get rid of them. > >I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her >period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how >do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. Simple, be alert for mood-changes and head-aches. Alternatively watch their actions. Should they sneak through a friends house and shoot out of the room on a skate-board, be suspicious, should they start jumping cracks in the side-walk, again approach with caution. The Ark of the TV may also provide further clues. > >Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around >us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not >Canadians. Can you clarify? Mexico is fine, purchase as many as your budget can handle, as the saying goes, "A slave a day keeps boredom away". Stay clear of Canada. Canadians have this aversion to being slaves to anyone but their current government. When placed in captivity they tend to be a surly and rebellious lot who may even burn down white houses. Best to leave them alone with their ice-hockey and beer.Eh? > >I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 >clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill >him myself? Of course you are. This is not murder, this is justifiable homicide. The Lord be praised. However, a word of caution should be injected here. Make sure you have sufficient groceries and other necessities like gas to get you through the Sabbath. > >A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an >abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. >I don't agree. Can you settle this? As long as the only day of the of the week on which shellfish is eaten is a friday, the abomination level is reduced. I do not recommend eating homosexuals on any day. > >Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a >defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my >vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? To understand the reason for this, one has to study the opticilus connundrous. Many of the faithful, unfortunately with reduced visual ability were approaching the altar and actually tripping over it. This caused many blasphemies to be uttered in the area of the holy of holies. Not to mention the confusion caused when the priest was knocked over, the wine spilled and the clothes rent as the unfortunate worshiper stumbled around. Thus the edict was brought into effect. I feel however, that with the corrected vision brought about by the wearing of the glasses, you no longer have a defect in your sight and will thus be able to approach the altar of God without causing mayhem. > >I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you >can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than >Allah. May you go in peace my child, the blessings of Walmart be upon you. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:41 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.112.115 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066580985 64.231.112.115 (Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:45 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:45 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1282 Lines: 37 On 19 Oct 2003 06:14:34 -0700, ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote: >Jan wrote in message news:... >> >> People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. >> This is just another rabid US media storm in a tea-cup. It will pass. > > Ah Lady, You raise many questions that are unanswerable. >Just like our presence in Iraq? Which the President promised would >not be long? Did he define 'long'. When compared to eternity, how long is long? One has to be very careful when understanding politicians, they speak with forked tongues. >When the President promised we would not be involved in >nation-building? Now you see you have to define 'nation-building'. Is it restoring a nation that has been destroyed or is it expanding ones own empire? > >Sadly, you are right, this will pass. Under Bush's war against Muslin >fanatics, Christian fanatics are perfectly okay to him and many US >citizens. > >So pitiful. > Please don't get me wrong. Fanatics of *any* description are unhealthy. The only saving grace for the Christian variety is that they don't turn themselves into mobile bombs, at least not yet. > -The Lady Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:26 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Message-ID: <4je5pv8mf37qhafhmk5alck2mgrhtep97o@4ax.com> References: <3c122aad.0310180919.68822d1d@posting.google.com> <18585-3F92A42B-221@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:42 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.112.115 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066580986 64.231.112.115 (Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:46 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:46 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1006 Lines: 21 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:48:11 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Rod wrote: "Let's be accurate The suicide bombing in Israel were >started when Sharon got aggressive. Israel has ignored the UN violated >many UN Security Council resolutions and been rewarded with guns and >money. The Arabs and Israelis are as bad as each other. Do you know you >go to jail in Israel if you preach Christianity." >********************************************* >Yes. The very fact that Israel was taking over other countries >territory inflamed the Arab world; Sharon is not a nice man. It's as >if my neighbor has his own property - he decides he wants to expand his >own holding; so he just takes over my property and kicks me out. Is >that just? Jeanette May one enquire what *your* reaction would be if your neighbour, in this case Palestine had vowed to bull-doze you and yours into the sea? Do you consider Arafat a 'nice' man? Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: 19 Oct 2003 09:48:06 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <3c122aad.0310190848.3c944f56@posting.google.com> References: <10696-3F91453F-7@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.9.132.226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066582087 13062 127.0.0.1 (19 Oct 2003 16:48:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1627 Lines: 26 Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote in message news:<10696-3F91453F-7@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net>... > Gordon - - Hi!! Well, yours is faulty reasoning!!! > ====1) your claim that, had Bush not been elected, there would have > been less terror upon our nation. What on earth brought you to that > conclusion?? The terror campaign against the U.S. had been planned > long, long before Bush was elected. > ====2) the Arab nations are not ignorant - you said. Oh, but yes, they > are. they are obsessed in their ignorance. > ====3) you claimed that Israel would become even more belligerent since > they knew Bush would approve ,etc. Wrong again. first of all, Israel's > actions are IN RESPONSE only to the Palestinians' suicide bombings - and > you know that - eveyone does. Secondly, Israel had approval under all > our former Presidents, not just Bush, and yet, when and if they went too > far - in our eyes - they were reprimanded - under all our Presidents. > Gordon - try to have facts rule your bias. > Olly How come Israel is allowed to have the bomb and there is no inspection? How come we are mad at Iran for having the potential to have the bomb? How come the US and the UN say stop putting up a fence and Israel keeps doing it? A few days ago there was talk on this group about UN SC resolutions I looked them up on google and stoped at 12 violated by Israel Security Council Resolutions there were a lot more and 38 vetoed by the US why don't we bomb Israel. They look like real bad guys. The UN Security Council disapproves but a lot of American Presedents say OK does that make it OK? Rod From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Syria Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:49:56 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <18586-3F92C0B4-85@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAxPMUy4gwvZi/h6G2MceuSI2/mpMCFD7Yojwudov6r/ztH3FDMxpuwK+X Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 684 Lines: 12 Gordon wrote: "I burst out laughing at 'bloviating'. =A0 I don't know what it means without checking, but it is SO onomatopoeic. =A0 :-)" ******************************************* Hey Gordon: I couldn't find "bloviating" in my Merriam-Webster dictionary. I assume codswallop means something like "horse-hockey" (and not the kind of hockey whereby one rides on the back of a horse trying to hit a little ball); was able to find onomatopoeic which means the naming of a thing or action by a vocal imitation of the sound associated with it; the use of words whose sound suggest the sense, i.e., buzz, hiss. - I suppose one could count the sound for giving a raspberry! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:38:50 +0100 Organization: pretty good Sender: valon@laptop.net Message-ID: <19x0j66gmiwvf.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <18585-3F929EED-219@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: valon@laptop.net NNTP-Posting-Host: copelands.plus.com (81.174.148.186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066592331 28618107 81.174.148.186 (16 [144431]) User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.7.1 (b9ab61ad.189.339) X-Face: *`~?aqnHRe>Q\~c\W)4lYtI0AU[jzd$QoZJw8cb>?D2rWS\vy:4FV,l{@XxvY>J3qwcIX~<6\ZX%z"x=@%62;9U8vshJ2.`e1COBkrHlb%y`f'.!TB&6K|;M)&v>:2&l3DZsL19Qja kTT[Fk~+R3s'N4x`G]-a;3rhT^m/IbCIyl2/6`iXU$'UO;\q;T2GP~@Glkak&oL.Gk~^0g:Z:jx3t9!SMyMC2]Ubwtf^kK X-no-archive: yes X-Val: on her laptop Status: O Content-Length: 1139 Lines: 21 Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:25:49 -0500 (CDT), Aries heard Jeanette S. whisper: > Has anyone seen the new "The Office"! It's pretty funny - that tall > skinny looking blond haired guy with huge circles under his eyes, who is > filled with his own self-importance, the stooge for David Brent. In the > first episode, he gets on his phone and starts saying "Oggy Oggy Oggy > and oink oink oink." Wonder if that is what he referring to, but no > that would make sense, nd Gareth is such an idiot, eve more so than his > boss. Also the staff from thebranch which was closed in Swindon, come > to the office; David is still in charge but has anew boss. David starts > his usual nonsense of strange noises and weird dances and nasty jokes; > the newcomers report to David's boss that they are offended by his > racist jokes. He is such a fool, he's funny. Tonight will be the 2nd > of 6 episodes, I believe. It's an example of slapstick comedy, in my > opinion. Jeanette It's a very funny series Jeanette - makes me giggle :) -- val at copelands.co.uk http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <18146-3F916094-20@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <_HCkb.3685$S52.1344@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:43:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.59.6.49 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066596218 65.59.6.49 (Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:43:38 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:43:38 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 675 Lines: 20 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:18146-3F916094-20@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net... > bob wrote: "You may be right. A story in the past few days, btw, > concerns Muslim women coming to the US, getting Medicare to have their > babies and then returning to their countries. > Not too sure what that's all about, however it does indicate that people > CAN get medical care for free........" > ****************************************** > There is a big differnce between Medicare (for those over 65) and > Medicade, bob. > I'm surprised you don't know the differece. > Errrr, what was it I said that lead you to believe that I don't? ??? bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <5jirovcimus6uitlgrf6ivqmacj27job2d@4ax.com> <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <1ICkb.3689$S52.3541@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:43:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.59.6.49 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066596221 65.59.6.49 (Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:43:41 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:43:41 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 981 Lines: 26 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net... Eugene wrote: "I'll go along with that. However, I think if you will check you will find I start very few threads. Unless I overlooked one I can find only one thread I started that had anything to do with politics; "The California Recall and how I would vote". The rest concerned jokes. I also think you will find that I have not traded many, if any, insults. ( I suppose that depends on what you call an insult. ) You will find that I respond to political post that I find in error, or insults, my country or president." ************************************** Didn't say you started anything. Go back and read what I wrote. I mentioned those names particularly because their owners seemed to be completely riled up. And it is insulting to try to impose one's views on another. Soooo, why are you trying to impose your views on "dialogue" on us??? grin bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:58:22 GMT Message-ID: <3f9316d9.642319@news.individual.net> References: <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> <18585-3F92A505-222@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-220.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.220) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066604304 27985682 203.87.45.220 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 361 Lines: 14 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:51:49 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >jingles wrote: "Ahem! Ahem! I am always standing in the >wings...." >****************************************** >Oh jingles - you're not "wing" material, but should always be enter >front stage! Jeanette OK...the cheque's in the mail (((((Jeanette)))) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:09:46 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f9317d6$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066604502 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 5331 Lines: 112 > >> My God does not run a virgin whore house for murdering suicide > >> terrorist. My God says sucide is a sin. > >> My God says murder is a sin. > >> My God does not reward terrorist. > >> My God send all of the above to burn in HELL for all eternity. > >> > > > >Dear Fay, > > > Dink my child, > You appear to have some problems resolving certain questions of > worship and adoration, may I, in suitable humble manner offer some > possible solutions? > > >Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding your God. > >I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that > >knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend > >the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that > >Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. > >I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the > >specific laws and how to best follow them. > > > >When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a > >pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They > >claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this? > > In this day and age, with the price of beef so high, may I suggest the > following adjustments while keeping the main principle. > Substitute t-bone steak for bull and barbecue for altar. The odour > will remain pleasing to the Lord, a burnt offering will be available > and you could always invite your neighbour over for supper. > This, I feel, will resolve three dilemmas, 1) The Lord, your God will > be appeased with the odour from the burnt offering, 2) you will be > fed and 3) your neighbour, instead of complaining, may even > contribute some wine to the festivities thereby permitting you to love > thy neighbour as thyself. > > > >I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in Exodus > >21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for > >her? > > If your daughter is anything like some of the foul-mouthed little > brats I see fairly frequently, I would suggest taking any amount > offered. Any price would be a fair price to get rid of them. > > > >I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her > >period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how > >do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. > > Simple, be alert for mood-changes and head-aches. Alternatively watch > their actions. Should they sneak through a friends house and shoot > out of the room on a skate-board, be suspicious, should they start > jumping cracks in the side-walk, again approach with caution. The Ark > of the TV may also provide further clues. > > > >Lev. 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around > >us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans but not > >Canadians. Can you clarify? > > Mexico is fine, purchase as many as your budget can handle, as the > saying goes, "A slave a day keeps boredom away". > Stay clear of Canada. Canadians have this aversion to being slaves > to anyone but their current government. When placed in captivity they > tend to be a surly and rebellious lot who may even burn down white > houses. Best to leave them alone with their ice-hockey and > beer.Eh? > > > >I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 > >clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill > >him myself? > > Of course you are. This is not murder, this is justifiable homicide. > The Lord be praised. However, a word of caution should be injected > here. Make sure you have sufficient groceries and other necessities > like gas to get you through the Sabbath. > > > >A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an > >abomination (Lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. > >I don't agree. Can you settle this? > > As long as the only day of the of the week on which shellfish is eaten > is a friday, the abomination level is reduced. I do not recommend > eating homosexuals on any day. > > > >Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a > >defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my > >vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? > > To understand the reason for this, one has to study the opticilus > connundrous. Many of the faithful, unfortunately with reduced visual > ability were approaching the altar and actually tripping over it. > This caused many blasphemies to be uttered in the area of the holy of > holies. Not to mention the confusion caused when the priest was > knocked over, the wine spilled and the clothes rent as the unfortunate > worshiper stumbled around. Thus the edict was brought into effect. > I feel however, that with the corrected vision brought about by the > wearing of the glasses, you no longer have a defect in your sight and > will thus be able to approach the altar of God without causing mayhem. > > > >I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you > >can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than > >Allah. > > May you go in peace my child, the blessings of Walmart be upon you. > > Jan ============ Thanks for the chuckles for today....very clever. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:11:02 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f931822$0$9554$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066604578 9554 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 578 Lines: 22 > > People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. > > This is just another rabid US media storm in a tea-cup. It will pass. > > > Just like our presence in Iraq? Which the President promised would > not be long? When the President promised we would not be involved in > nation-building? > > Sadly, you are right, this will pass. Under Bush's war against Muslin > fanatics, Christian fanatics are perfectly okay to him and many US > citizens. > > So pitiful. > > -The Lady =========== Good post the Lady. I totally agree. Yes, very pitiful. bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:13:03 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f93189b$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066604699 14491 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1325 Lines: 40 > >> People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. > >> This is just another rabid US media storm in a tea-cup. It will pass. > > > > > Ah Lady, > You raise many questions that are unanswerable. > >Just like our presence in Iraq? Which the President promised would > >not be long? > > Did he define 'long'. When compared to eternity, how long is long? > One has to be very careful when understanding politicians, they speak > with forked tongues. > > >When the President promised we would not be involved in > >nation-building? > > Now you see you have to define 'nation-building'. Is it restoring a > nation that has been destroyed or is it expanding ones own empire? > > > >Sadly, you are right, this will pass. Under Bush's war against Muslin > >fanatics, Christian fanatics are perfectly okay to him and many US > >citizens. > > > >So pitiful. > > > Please don't get me wrong. Fanatics of *any* description are > unhealthy. The only saving grace for the Christian variety is that > they don't turn themselves into mobile bombs, at least not yet. > > > -The Lady > > Jan ========= The 'short' war has now been extended to at least 2006. IMO, nation-building is expanding one's own empire. Xian fanatics don't need to turn themselves into mobile bombs....they have military hardware. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:15:39 GMT Message-ID: <3f9318c6.1135620@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> <3Imkb.184087$0v4.14215647@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net> <3f92342a.30564459@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-220.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.220) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066605342 28132977 203.87.45.220 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 3914 Lines: 116 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:14:46 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f92342a.30564459@news.individual.net... >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 06:18:32 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >> >> >"jingles" wrote in message >> >news:3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net... >> >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >> >> >> >> >"jingles" wrote in message >> >> >news:3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net... >> >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT, "Yoj" >wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >"jingles" wrote in message >> >> >> >news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... >> >> >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >What chores are you doing today? >> >> >> >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where >> >> >> >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm >> >> >> >> >so confused. (lol) >> >> >> >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put >> >> >> >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking >> >> >> >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. >> >> >> >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you >> >> >> >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them >today? >> >> >> >> >---Sea >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "I'm busy doing nothing, >> >> >> >> Working the whole day through, >> >> >> >> Trying to find lots of things not to do. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm busy going nowhere, >> >> >> >> Isn't it such a crime, >> >> >> >> I'd like to be unhappy but... >> >> >> >> I never do have the time..." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And I think that says it all.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and >loving >> >it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> jingles >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Onya, Jingles! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Joy >> >> >> >> >> >> "I have to wake the sun up, >> >> >> He's liable to sleep all day, >> >> >> And ring a round the rosebuds, >> >> >> So they'll be bright and gay, >> >> >> I told my friend the robin, I'd buy him a brand new vest, >> >> >> Hustle Bustle, I wish I could take a rest..." >> >> >> >> >> >> (Courtesy Bing Crosby in (I think) a Yankee at the Court of King >> >> >> Arthur) >> >> > >> >> >I think it might have been Danny Kaye. >> >> > >> >> >Joy >> >> >> >> I was working from memory so thought I would check it out....A >> >> Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court with Der Bingle, Cedric >> >> Hardwicke, William Bendix and Rhonda Fleming.....now I have to be >sure >> >> I put the right song in the right movie >> >> >> >> jingles >> > >> >Verrry interesting. I wonder if Danny Kaye did a remake, or maybe >made >> >a similar movie. I'm sure I remember him in that role, or one like >it. >> >I'm surprised I didn't remember it was Bing, because I was a great >fan >> >of his. >> > >> >Joy >> >> The movie was made in 1949 and I don think a remake was made of it. >> But Danny Kaye did make a film called The Court Jester.... >> I was a great fan of Danny Kaye..... and I think I saw all his >> movies... >> >> jingles > >I'll bet that's the movie I'm thinking of. Yes, I loved Danny Kaye too. >Mostly I liked Bing's singing, although I enjoyed his movies too, but >there was something about Danny Kaye's personality that was special. > >Joy Although he presented wonderfully in comedy....there were moments when he looked out of the screen and seemed to look right into your eyes... His serious moments were quite beautiful....Remember Hans Christian Anderson ..... and... "Inchworm, inchworm Measuring the marigold You and your arithmatic You'll probably go far Inchworm, inchworm Measuring the marigold Seems to me you'd stop and see How beautiful they are " jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <10696-3F91453F-7@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3c122aad.0310190848.3c944f56@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:16:18 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f93195e$0$3699$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066604894 3699 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 1636 Lines: 30 > > Gordon - - Hi!! Well, yours is faulty reasoning!!! > > ====1) your claim that, had Bush not been elected, there would have > > been less terror upon our nation. What on earth brought you to that > > conclusion?? The terror campaign against the U.S. had been planned > > long, long before Bush was elected. > > ====2) the Arab nations are not ignorant - you said. Oh, but yes, they > > are. they are obsessed in their ignorance. > > ====3) you claimed that Israel would become even more belligerent since > > they knew Bush would approve ,etc. Wrong again. first of all, Israel's > > actions are IN RESPONSE only to the Palestinians' suicide bombings - and > > you know that - eveyone does. Secondly, Israel had approval under all > > our former Presidents, not just Bush, and yet, when and if they went too > > far - in our eyes - they were reprimanded - under all our Presidents. > > Gordon - try to have facts rule your bias. > > Olly > > How come Israel is allowed to have the bomb and there is no > inspection? How come we are mad at Iran for having the potential to > have the bomb? How come the US and the UN say stop putting up a fence > and Israel keeps doing it? A few days ago there was talk on this group > about UN SC resolutions I looked them up on google and stoped at 12 > violated by Israel Security Council Resolutions there were a lot more > and 38 vetoed by the US why don't we bomb Israel. They look like real > bad guys. The UN Security Council disapproves but a lot of American > Presedents say OK does that make it OK? Rod ======== Good questions, Rod. Of course, we know the answers, eh? Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:17:32 GMT Message-ID: <3f931b3c.1765748@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <18585-3F92A61B-223@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-220.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.220) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066605454 28132977 203.87.45.220 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 701 Lines: 22 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:56:27 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >jingles wrote: ""I'm busy doing nothing, >Working the whole day through, >Trying to find lots of things not to do. >I'm busy going nowhere, >Isn't it such a crime, >I'd like to be unhappy but... >I never do have the time..." >And I think that says it all.... >I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it " >****************************************** >So true jingles! I envy your talent for rhyming. >Jeanette I wish I could claim the credit Jeanette... It's from 'A Connecticut Yankee at the Court of King Arthur' I can only lay claim to a good memory..... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3c122aad.0310180919.68822d1d@posting.google.com> <18585-3F92A42B-221@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:18:43 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f9319ef$0$24674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066605039 24674 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 961 Lines: 20 "> Rod wrote: "Let's be accurate The suicide bombing in Israel were > started when Sharon got aggressive. Israel has ignored the UN violated > many UN Security Council resolutions and been rewarded with guns and > money. The Arabs and Israelis are as bad as each other. Do you know you > go to jail in Israel if you preach Christianity." > ********************************************* > Yes. The very fact that Israel was taking over other countries > territory inflamed the Arab world; Sharon is not a nice man. It's as > if my neighbor has his own property - he decides he wants to expand his > own holding; so he just takes over my property and kicks me out. Is > that just? Jeanette ========= Exactly. And unfortunately, Bush is encouraging that very unnice man. Therefore, Sharon feels he has US backing and continues his own nation building. I expect another Israeli missile attack shortly, in an attempt to further inflame ME tensions. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:20:59 +0100 Message-ID: <5B4GLOAbxxk$EwSI@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <24GVlNAi+Yk$Ewhw@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066607956 24113 194.222.103.116 (19 Oct 2003 23:59:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 884 Lines: 25 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >"Gordon" wrote >>There are some disused railway tracks in Derbyshire which have been >>converted into walking/cycling routes, >You've reminded me that we also have had some >former railway track areas converted to walking/riding >paths. In fact, after our boys grew up, they told us that >they often used that as the path to town, even before >it was converted completely. >We often learn quite a bit about our kids this way now. >It's fun to hear what they used to do without telling us. It's even more fun when they are daughters! >As for the new strain of humans with legs over there, >I think you are a new strain too. (lol) But of what, I don't know. >I haven't figured that out yet. (lol) >(No, I did NOT say you are a strain. ) >---Sea > People tell me can be stressful though.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:27 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:21:19 GMT Message-ID: <3f931bd4.1917849@news.individual.net> References: <5jirovcimus6uitlgrf6ivqmacj27job2d@4ax.com> <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <1ICkb.3689$S52.3541@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-220.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.220) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066605681 28132977 203.87.45.220 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1256 Lines: 31 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:43:41 GMT, "Bob Thomas" wrote: >"Jeanette S." wrote in message >news:18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net... >Eugene wrote: "I'll go along with that. >However, I think if you will check you will find I start very few >threads. Unless I overlooked one I can find only one thread I started >that had anything to do with politics; "The California Recall and how I >would vote". The rest concerned jokes. >I also think you will find that I have not traded many, if any, insults. >( I suppose that depends on what you call an insult. ) >You will find that I respond to political post that I find in error, or >insults, my country or president." >************************************** >Didn't say you started anything. Go back and read what I wrote. I >mentioned those names particularly because their owners seemed to be >completely riled up. And it is insulting to try to impose one's views >on another. > >Soooo, why are you trying to impose your views on "dialogue" on us??? > >grin > >bob OK....back off now you lot....or we will descend to the level of many other newsgroups.....just like the ones we have left because..... Well! you know the drill jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Daddy Bush giving Junior a message. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:21:47 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f931aa8$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066605224 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 917 Lines: 19 It's long been a well-known secret that George Bush Sr has been dismayed by Juniors attack on Iraq, his following the Neo-Cons rather than engaging in sound US foreign policy. Now it's come out in the open. Now Bush Sr has sent a thinly veiled dispatch to Junior which has revealed the depth of his disagreement with his impetuously uninformed son by giving the 2003 George Bush Award for Excellence in Public Service to Senator Edward Kennedy. Father Bush delivers a nuanced message by granting a treasured award to Democrat Sen. Edward Kennedy http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/oped/chi-0310170106oct17,1,291922.story?coll=chi-newsopinioncommentary-hed I'm with Daddy Bush...good on him! And this is at the same time that Kennedy to assail Bush over Iraq war http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2003/10/16/kennedy_to_assail_bush_over_iraq_war/ Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:23:00 +0100 Message-ID: <+xLH3aAUzxk$EwQG@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066607958 24113 194.222.103.116 (19 Oct 2003 23:59:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 787 Lines: 24 jingles wrote >On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:36:00 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>~~seadancer~~ wrote >>> >>>Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. >>>(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) >> >>Yes, we know dear, Sinclair disappeared about the same time as you did, >>so blatant, so obvious........ >> >>Presumably he is still too exhausted to write, so you must have been 'de >>trop' for him..... >>I shall just have to accept the fact that our relationship is over. > >Ahem! Ahem! I am always standing in the wings.... > >jingles > SSSHHH! This woman is insanely jealous, she must never know about us, or your life may be in jeopardy. Have you ever been to jeopardy? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:25:26 GMT Message-ID: <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-220.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.220) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066605927 28132977 203.87.45.220 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 574 Lines: 23 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" wrote: > >> E N G L A N D >> Oi Oi Oi LOL >> >> Now on to Melbourne! >> -- >> val >=========== >Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: > >Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! > >Bobbie Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:29:09 +0100 Message-ID: <7hfGznAF5xk$EwRW@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <10694-3F9147A3-30@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066607959 24113 194.222.103.116 (19 Oct 2003 23:59:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 588 Lines: 16 Yoj wrote >True. I have a feeling she wouldn't like a website I recently learned >about. I think you might like it, so I'll send you the url by e-mail, >if it isn't munged. If it is, e-mail me (mine isn't) and I'll send it >to you - if you want it, that is. > >Joy > Errm, I THINK I understood that last sentence , and saw it in my mailbox, but I've been out walking today, then out to M's for a pizza, just came in here to knock off a few posts, and will have a look tomorrow evening I expect. I hope it's nothing disrespectful to you-know-who! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:35:03 +0100 Message-ID: <6BHG79An+xk$Ewzf@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066607960 24113 194.222.103.116 (19 Oct 2003 23:59:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 298 Lines: 10 Eugene A. Calame wrote > >Simple. It is the old testament you are quoting. If you are a Christian you go >by the New Testament. > >If you are an atheist just forget it. You are own your on. > This is not a rehearsal - this is the only life you are going to get! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:38:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066607964 24113 194.222.103.116 (19 Oct 2003 23:59:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 775 Lines: 19 Barbara Christian wrote >> >>>> >> Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a >> defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my >> vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? >> >> I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you >> can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than >> Allah. >================== >Dink......that was excellent.....excellent! >Bobbie > Indeed! It exposes just how out of date and ridiculous the bible 'teachings' are. If the Anglican church doesn't come into the 21st century and stop treating homosexuality as a curable disease, the churches will be completely empty before very long... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:41:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066607968 24113 194.222.103.116 (19 Oct 2003 23:59:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 311 Lines: 12 ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Sounds great, Joy. >I have to admire the energy you have for Toastmasters. >I plan to give my Icebreaker speech on Monday and >I'm starting to get a bit tense about it. Sometimes I ask >myself: "Who needs this?" LOL >---Sea > Need a neck rub, honey? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:45:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066607972 24113 194.222.103.116 (19 Oct 2003 23:59:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 547 Lines: 14 jingles wrote > >I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it > ...and the leaves turn brown, in Britain. I saw my security light come on in the back garden this evening, and when I looked out to see the trespasser, I was delighted to see for the first time the fox that all my neighbours appear to have seen in my garden. He/she sniffed around under the bird feeders and then quickly went over the fence into next door. I may try leaving a little treat for him, he looked thin.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:51:46 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066607976 24113 194.222.103.116 (19 Oct 2003 23:59:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 780 Lines: 16 Jeanette S. wrote >Hi to all you out there! I've stopped delving into >the newsgroups with my primary email addy and have started using this >hotmail one. The phoney MSN stuff stopped coming to my primary address, >so decided to use this one to "fool" any web crawlers MSN installed a >couple of new filters which seem to be working okay so far. I've >received 4 of the phoney messages in this new address, right where I >want to keep them. How are you other webbies handling the problem? >Jeanette > I use Mailwasher to filter and delete mail on the server, but the amount of junk mail is escalating again, though only a few are 'Microsoft' virus emails. I received, or rather deleted, in excess of 250 junk emails today. :-( -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:58:18 +0100 Message-ID: <+SI3PGCaUyk$EwCP@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066607980 24113 194.222.103.116 (19 Oct 2003 23:59:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:59:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 622 Lines: 18 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >Hi Jeanette, >I learned a long time ago never to put my primary >email addy out on a newsgroup. >As you can see, I use a Yahoo addy instead. >My Yahoo addy gets quite a bit of spam, but at >least Yahoo dumps it all into a Bulk Folder for me >and I can delete all of it with one click. >It just takes constant monitoring if you don't wan't >the Yahoo mailbox to fill up to max and reject >incoming personal e-mail. My demon mailbox never 'fills up' to the extent that it rejects mail. I read and 'file' genuine emails, and have some from more than two years ago! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:21:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.168 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066612914 32.103.153.168 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:21:54 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:21:54 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1007 Lines: 35 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net... > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" > wrote: > > > > >> E N G L A N D > >> Oi Oi Oi LOL > >> > >> Now on to Melbourne! > >> -- > >> val > >=========== > >Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: > > > >Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! > > > >Bobbie > > Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday > (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and > said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor > Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio > > jingles I hope they didn't stick a nitroglycerin patch on you as they did on me when the same thing happened a year or so ago. That was a killer headache! As I recall, I had a choice of soaps, lurid talk shows, or turning the thing off and reading. Luckily, I had brought a book with me. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> <3Imkb.184087$0v4.14215647@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net> <3f92342a.30564459@news.individual.net> <3f9318c6.1135620@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:28:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.168 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066613290 32.103.153.168 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:28:10 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:28:10 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 4342 Lines: 128 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f9318c6.1135620@news.individual.net... > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:14:46 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > >"jingles" wrote in message > >news:3f92342a.30564459@news.individual.net... > >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 06:18:32 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > >> > >> >"jingles" wrote in message > >> >news:3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net... > >> >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:31:27 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >"jingles" wrote in message > >> >> >news:3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net... > >> >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:13:15 GMT, "Yoj" > >wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >"jingles" wrote in message > >> >> >> >news:3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net... > >> >> >> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:31:15 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >What chores are you doing today? > >> >> >> >> >I have so many chores to do that I don't know where > >> >> >> >> >to begin. I can't even set my priorities because I'm > >> >> >> >> >so confused. (lol) > >> >> >> >> >Today my main chore is to "straighten up" and put > >> >> >> >> >things away where they belong. We're still unpacking > >> >> >> >> >from our move and things are piling up around here. > >> >> >> >> >Let me add another question: What chores would you > >> >> >> >> >*like* to accomplish, even if you don't get to them > >today? > >> >> >> >> >---Sea > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "I'm busy doing nothing, > >> >> >> >> Working the whole day through, > >> >> >> >> Trying to find lots of things not to do. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I'm busy going nowhere, > >> >> >> >> Isn't it such a crime, > >> >> >> >> I'd like to be unhappy but... > >> >> >> >> I never do have the time..." > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> And I think that says it all.... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and > >loving > >> >it > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> jingles > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Onya, Jingles! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Joy > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "I have to wake the sun up, > >> >> >> He's liable to sleep all day, > >> >> >> And ring a round the rosebuds, > >> >> >> So they'll be bright and gay, > >> >> >> I told my friend the robin, I'd buy him a brand new vest, > >> >> >> Hustle Bustle, I wish I could take a rest..." > >> >> >> > >> >> >> (Courtesy Bing Crosby in (I think) a Yankee at the Court of King > >> >> >> Arthur) > >> >> > > >> >> >I think it might have been Danny Kaye. > >> >> > > >> >> >Joy > >> >> > >> >> I was working from memory so thought I would check it out....A > >> >> Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court with Der Bingle, Cedric > >> >> Hardwicke, William Bendix and Rhonda Fleming.....now I have to be > >sure > >> >> I put the right song in the right movie > >> >> > >> >> jingles > >> > > >> >Verrry interesting. I wonder if Danny Kaye did a remake, or maybe > >made > >> >a similar movie. I'm sure I remember him in that role, or one like > >it. > >> >I'm surprised I didn't remember it was Bing, because I was a great > >fan > >> >of his. > >> > > >> >Joy > >> > >> The movie was made in 1949 and I don think a remake was made of it. > >> But Danny Kaye did make a film called The Court Jester.... > >> I was a great fan of Danny Kaye..... and I think I saw all his > >> movies... > >> > >> jingles > > > >I'll bet that's the movie I'm thinking of. Yes, I loved Danny Kaye too. > >Mostly I liked Bing's singing, although I enjoyed his movies too, but > >there was something about Danny Kaye's personality that was special. > > > >Joy > > Although he presented wonderfully in comedy....there were moments when > he looked out of the screen and seemed to look right into your eyes... > His serious moments were quite beautiful....Remember Hans Christian > Anderson ..... and... > > "Inchworm, inchworm > Measuring the marigold > You and your arithmatic > You'll probably go far > Inchworm, inchworm > Measuring the marigold > Seems to me you'd stop and see > How beautiful they are " > > jingles Yes, he had a very special quality about him. I don't think there's anybody of his calibre performing now. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:28 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: gina39d@yahoo.com (toci) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: 19 Oct 2003 20:56:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <52a6abdc.0310191956.31be37c@posting.google.com> References: <5jirovcimus6uitlgrf6ivqmacj27job2d@4ax.com> <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.190.203.35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066622215 9919 127.0.0.1 (20 Oct 2003 03:56:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1175 Lines: 20 jmoms@webtv.net (Jeanette S.) wrote in message news:<18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net>... > Eugene wrote: "I'll go along with that. > However, I think if you will check you will find I start very few > threads. Unless I overlooked one I can find only one thread I started > that had anything to do with politics; "The California Recall and how I > would vote". The rest concerned jokes. > I also think you will find that I have not traded many, if any, insults. > ( I suppose that depends on what you call an insult. ) > You will find that I respond to political post that I find in error, or > insults, my country or president." > ************************************** > Didn't say you started anything. Go back and read what I wrote. I > mentioned those names particularly because their owners seemed to be > completely riled up. And it is insulting to try to impose one's views > on another. Jeanette I enjoy the political dialogue, except when people seem distressed by the differences of opinion. There are long threads where I've lost interest that I just don't open. Why not do that if you are off a set of topics fo awhile? Toci From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:36:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp327.tc-2.alb-pt.ny.localnet.com (66.153.31.171) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066628241 28629439 66.153.31.171 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 799 Lines: 23 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Sounds great, Joy. > >I have to admire the energy you have for Toastmasters. > >I plan to give my Icebreaker speech on Monday and > >I'm starting to get a bit tense about it. Sometimes I ask > >myself: "Who needs this?" LOL > >---Sea > > > Need a neck rub, honey? > Gordon Actually, I wish I hadn't decided to give my Icebreaker speech this week. There's just too much going on. Our son is coming down from Montreal and will stop by our new house for the first time... and guess where I'll be... at Toastmasters. But I'm not the type to cancel out on something like this. I'm hoping our son will be late, as usual, and I'll be home by the time he gets here. A little to the left, Gordon. Ah! ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:40:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp327.tc-2.alb-pt.ny.localnet.com (66.153.31.171) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066628467 28863009 66.153.31.171 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 594 Lines: 16 "Gordon" wrote > I saw my security light come on in the back garden this evening, and > when I looked out to see the trespasser, I was delighted to see for the > first time the fox that all my neighbours appear to have seen in my > garden. He/she sniffed around under the bird feeders and then quickly > went over the fence into next door. > I may try leaving a little treat for him, he looked thin.... > Gordon Was the fox red or gray? I almost hit a deer tonight while driving. He ran across the street just a few yards ahead of me. I guess I was lucky. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:44:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <24GVlNAi+Yk$Ewhw@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <5B4GLOAbxxk$EwSI@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp327.tc-2.alb-pt.ny.localnet.com (66.153.31.171) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066628872 28889040 66.153.31.171 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 868 Lines: 26 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >You've reminded me that we also have had some > >former railway track areas converted to walking/riding > >paths. In fact, after our boys grew up, they told us that > >they often used that as the path to town, even before > >it was converted completely. > >We often learn quite a bit about our kids this way now. > >It's fun to hear what they used to do without telling us. > > It's even more fun when they are daughters! > > >As for the new strain of humans with legs over there, > >I think you are a new strain too. (lol) But of what, I don't know. > >I haven't figured that out yet. (lol) > >(No, I did NOT say you are a strain. ) > >---Sea > > > People tell me can be stressful though.... > Gordon We never had a daughter. How are you stressful, Gordon? ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Barbara Christian" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:46:34 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f9374f1$0$10617$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.49.40.5 X-Trace: 1066628337 10617 210.49.40.5 Status: O Content-Length: 846 Lines: 33 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net... > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" > wrote: > > > > >> E N G L A N D > >> Oi Oi Oi LOL > >> > >> Now on to Melbourne! > >> -- > >> val > >=========== > >Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: > > > >Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! > > > >Bobbie ========= > Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday > (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and > said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor > Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio > > jingles ========== What a choice. It would have been nice if they offered something different.....like documentaries. Bobbie From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:47:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> <+xLH3aAUzxk$EwQG@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp327.tc-2.alb-pt.ny.localnet.com (66.153.31.171) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066629078 28424934 66.153.31.171 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 839 Lines: 23 "Gordon" wrote > >>~~seadancer~~ wrote > >>>Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. > >>>(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) > >> > >>Yes, we know dear, Sinclair disappeared about the same time as you did, > >>so blatant, so obvious........ > >>Presumably he is still too exhausted to write, so you must have been 'de > >>trop' for him..... > >>I shall just have to accept the fact that our relationship is over. > > > >Ahem! Ahem! I am always standing in the wings.... > >jingles > > > SSSHHH! This woman is insanely jealous, she must never know about us, > or your life may be in jeopardy. Have you ever been to jeopardy? > Gordon They warned me about you when I first got here, Gordon. So I'm not surprised at anything you do. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:04:34 GMT Message-ID: <3f9388e3.2542340@news.individual.net> References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f854222$0$18889$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> <+xLH3aAUzxk$EwQG@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066633477 26687434 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 952 Lines: 32 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:23:00 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:36:00 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>~~seadancer~~ wrote >>>> >>>>Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. >>>>(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) >>> >>>Yes, we know dear, Sinclair disappeared about the same time as you did, >>>so blatant, so obvious........ >>> >>>Presumably he is still too exhausted to write, so you must have been 'de >>>trop' for him..... >>>I shall just have to accept the fact that our relationship is over. >> >>Ahem! Ahem! I am always standing in the wings.... >> >>jingles >> >SSSHHH! This woman is insanely jealous, she must never know about us, >or your life may be in jeopardy. Have you ever been to jeopardy? >-- >Gordon No! but I was very fond of The Roses of Picardy.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:07:35 GMT Message-ID: <3f938973.2686292@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <6BHG79An+xk$Ewzf@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066633657 26687434 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 559 Lines: 20 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:35:03 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Eugene A. Calame wrote >> >>Simple. It is the old testament you are quoting. If you are a Christian you go >>by the New Testament. >> >>If you are an atheist just forget it. You are own your on. >> >This is not a rehearsal - this is the only life you are going to get! >-- >Gordon Right! and its kinda safer to hedge your bets..... Now I don't say I don't believe in ghosts......I've never seen one, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:09:31 GMT Message-ID: <3f9389d7.2786505@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066633773 26687434 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1072 Lines: 28 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:38:27 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Barbara Christian wrote >>> >>>> >>> Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a >>> defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my >>> vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? >>> >>> I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you >>> can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than >>> Allah. >>================== >>Dink......that was excellent.....excellent! >>Bobbie >> >Indeed! It exposes just how out of date and ridiculous the bible >'teachings' are. If the Anglican church doesn't come into the 21st >century and stop treating homosexuality as a curable disease, the >churches will be completely empty before very long... >-- >Gordon Some of the bible teachings stand the test of time.....'As you do unto the least of my creatures, so you do unto me....' think about it.... jingles (He didn't specify, race, colour or creed....) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:12:42 GMT Message-ID: <3f938a99.2980026@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f91f179.13488262@news.individual.net> <3Imkb.184087$0v4.14215647@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f920697.18895397@news.individual.net> <3f92342a.30564459@news.individual.net> <3f9318c6.1135620@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066633964 26687434 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 868 Lines: 33 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:28:10 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >> >Mostly I liked Bing's singing, although I enjoyed his movies too, but >> >there was something about Danny Kaye's personality that was special. >> > >> >Joy >> >> Although he presented wonderfully in comedy....there were moments when >> he looked out of the screen and seemed to look right into your eyes... >> His serious moments were quite beautiful....Remember Hans Christian >> Anderson ..... and... >> >> "Inchworm, inchworm >> Measuring the marigold >> You and your arithmatic >> You'll probably go far >> Inchworm, inchworm >> Measuring the marigold >> Seems to me you'd stop and see >> How beautiful they are " >> >> jingles > >Yes, he had a very special quality about him. I don't think there's >anybody of his calibre performing now. > >Joy He was I think quite unique..... jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:14:07 GMT Message-ID: <3f938b12.3101135@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066634049 26687434 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 731 Lines: 23 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:45:55 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >> >>I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it >> >...and the leaves turn brown, in Britain. > >I saw my security light come on in the back garden this evening, and >when I looked out to see the trespasser, I was delighted to see for the >first time the fox that all my neighbours appear to have seen in my >garden. He/she sniffed around under the bird feeders and then quickly >went over the fence into next door. >I may try leaving a little treat for him, he looked thin.... >-- >Gordon Please do.....winter can be hard on the wild animals....and it is on its way.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:15:00 GMT Message-ID: <3f938b52.3165879@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066634101 26687434 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 756 Lines: 23 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:40:18 -0400, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >"Gordon" wrote >> I saw my security light come on in the back garden this evening, and >> when I looked out to see the trespasser, I was delighted to see for the >> first time the fox that all my neighbours appear to have seen in my >> garden. He/she sniffed around under the bird feeders and then quickly >> went over the fence into next door. >> I may try leaving a little treat for him, he looked thin.... >> Gordon > >Was the fox red or gray? >I almost hit a deer tonight while driving. He ran >across the street just a few yards ahead of me. >I guess I was lucky. >---Sea I'd say the deer had his fair share of luck too 8) jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:17:53 GMT Message-ID: <3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066634275 26687434 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1297 Lines: 42 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:21:54 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net... >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> E N G L A N D >> >> Oi Oi Oi LOL >> >> >> >> Now on to Melbourne! >> >> -- >> >> val >> >=========== >> >Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: >> > >> >Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! >> > >> >Bobbie >> >> Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday >> (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and >> said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor >> Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio >> >> jingles > >I hope they didn't stick a nitroglycerin patch on you as they did on me >when the same thing happened a year or so ago. That was a killer >headache! As I recall, I had a choice of soaps, lurid talk shows, or >turning the thing off and reading. Luckily, I had brought a book with >me. > >Joy Had one of those patches 'installed' just once, a bit over a year ago.....never again. I put my foot down this time..... Unfortunately didn't have time to collect a book.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:29 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jim Vatunz Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:30:48 +1000 Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f938b12.3101135@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.173.20.180 X-Trace: 1066635048 freenews.iinet.net.au 23605 203.173.20.180 Status: O Content-Length: 1279 Lines: 35 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:14:07 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:45:55 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>jingles wrote >>> >>>I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it >>> >>...and the leaves turn brown, in Britain. >> >>I saw my security light come on in the back garden this evening, and >>when I looked out to see the trespasser, I was delighted to see for the >>first time the fox that all my neighbours appear to have seen in my >>garden. He/she sniffed around under the bird feeders and then quickly >>went over the fence into next door. >>I may try leaving a little treat for him, he looked thin.... >>-- >>Gordon > >Please do.....winter can be hard on the wild animals....and it is on >its way.... > >jingles i used to have kangaroos feeding in my yard at the old place the winter before last. we had very dry weather and some of the only edible grass for km's was in our backyard. i used to waste a bit of water even, just so they had a nibble. was a bit of a surprise though when you'd go out in the middle of the night for a piddle and skippy would come bounding past you. For the latest weather where i am click http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jim Vatunz Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:34:58 +1000 Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.173.20.180 X-Trace: 1066635299 freenews.iinet.net.au 23605 203.173.20.180 Status: O Content-Length: 1739 Lines: 52 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:17:53 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:21:54 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > >>"jingles" wrote in message >>news:3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net... >>> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >> E N G L A N D >>> >> Oi Oi Oi LOL >>> >> >>> >> Now on to Melbourne! >>> >> -- >>> >> val >>> >=========== >>> >Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: >>> > >>> >Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! >>> > >>> >Bobbie >>> >>> Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday >>> (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and >>> said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor >>> Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio >>> >>> jingles >> >>I hope they didn't stick a nitroglycerin patch on you as they did on me >>when the same thing happened a year or so ago. That was a killer >>headache! As I recall, I had a choice of soaps, lurid talk shows, or >>turning the thing off and reading. Luckily, I had brought a book with >>me. >> >>Joy > >Had one of those patches 'installed' just once, a bit over a year >ago.....never again. I put my foot down this time..... i take angina pills every day. when i first took them they warned of headaches. they were right. after a few days you get used to them. here's a tip. no matter how crook you get never bother wasting your time going to hospital at xmas time. > >Unfortunately didn't have time to collect a book.... > >jingles For the latest weather where i am click http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:44:18 GMT Message-ID: <3f939f1a.8230104@news.individual.net> References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f938b12.3101135@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066639460 29321599 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1667 Lines: 46 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:30:48 +1000, Jim Vatunz wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:14:07 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:45:55 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>jingles wrote >>>> >>>>I'm watching the birds feed, and the flowers emerge, and loving it >>>> >>>...and the leaves turn brown, in Britain. >>> >>>I saw my security light come on in the back garden this evening, and >>>when I looked out to see the trespasser, I was delighted to see for the >>>first time the fox that all my neighbours appear to have seen in my >>>garden. He/she sniffed around under the bird feeders and then quickly >>>went over the fence into next door. >>>I may try leaving a little treat for him, he looked thin.... >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>Please do.....winter can be hard on the wild animals....and it is on >>its way.... >> >>jingles > >i used to have kangaroos feeding in my yard at the old place the >winter before last. we had very dry weather and some of the only >edible grass for km's was in our backyard. i used to waste a bit of >water even, just so they had a nibble. >was a bit of a surprise though when you'd go out in the middle of the >night for a piddle and skippy would come bounding past you. > >For the latest weather where i am click >http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ It is rather sad that in some areas the kangaroo has required culling........my young grandson met his first wallabys last Christmas and there is a delightful photograph of him trying to lift its tail.... he said it looked heavy and was trying to help.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:49:25 GMT Message-ID: <3f93a0d2.8670053@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066639766 29321599 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2266 Lines: 65 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:34:58 +1000, Jim Vatunz wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:17:53 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:21:54 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >> >>>"jingles" wrote in message >>>news:3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net... >>>> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>> >> E N G L A N D >>>> >> Oi Oi Oi LOL >>>> >> >>>> >> Now on to Melbourne! >>>> >> -- >>>> >> val >>>> >=========== >>>> >Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: >>>> > >>>> >Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! >>>> > >>>> >Bobbie >>>> >>>> Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday >>>> (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and >>>> said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor >>>> Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio >>>> >>>> jingles >>> >>>I hope they didn't stick a nitroglycerin patch on you as they did on me >>>when the same thing happened a year or so ago. That was a killer >>>headache! As I recall, I had a choice of soaps, lurid talk shows, or >>>turning the thing off and reading. Luckily, I had brought a book with >>>me. >>> >>>Joy >> >>Had one of those patches 'installed' just once, a bit over a year >>ago.....never again. I put my foot down this time..... >i take angina pills every day. when i first took them they warned of >headaches. they were right. after a few days you get used to them. >here's a tip. no matter how crook you get never bother wasting your >time going to hospital at xmas time. >> >>Unfortunately didn't have time to collect a book.... >> >>jingles > >For the latest weather where i am click >http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ I am happy to say that angina is not one of the things I suffer from....but you know what it is like. Chest pains and naturally they take every precaution. I have to to admit....our local hospital is becoming a home away from home lately....three trips in less than a year. But I've got to admit that it is nice when you are recognised with a smile and a cheery greeting. jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jim Vatunz Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:11:21 +1000 Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net> <3f93a0d2.8670053@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.173.20.180 X-Trace: 1066641081 freenews.iinet.net.au 23602 203.173.20.180 Status: O Content-Length: 2919 Lines: 77 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:49:25 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:34:58 +1000, Jim Vatunz > wrote: > >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:17:53 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >>wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:21:54 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >>> >>>>"jingles" wrote in message >>>>news:3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net... >>>>> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> >> E N G L A N D >>>>> >> Oi Oi Oi LOL >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Now on to Melbourne! >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> val >>>>> >=========== >>>>> >Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: >>>>> > >>>>> >Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! >>>>> > >>>>> >Bobbie >>>>> >>>>> Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday >>>>> (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and >>>>> said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor >>>>> Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio >>>>> >>>>> jingles >>>> >>>>I hope they didn't stick a nitroglycerin patch on you as they did on me >>>>when the same thing happened a year or so ago. That was a killer >>>>headache! As I recall, I had a choice of soaps, lurid talk shows, or >>>>turning the thing off and reading. Luckily, I had brought a book with >>>>me. >>>> >>>>Joy >>> >>>Had one of those patches 'installed' just once, a bit over a year >>>ago.....never again. I put my foot down this time..... >>i take angina pills every day. when i first took them they warned of >>headaches. they were right. after a few days you get used to them. >>here's a tip. no matter how crook you get never bother wasting your >>time going to hospital at xmas time. >>> >>>Unfortunately didn't have time to collect a book.... >>> >>>jingles >> >>For the latest weather where i am click >>http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ >I am happy to say that angina is not one of the things I suffer >from....but you know what it is like. Chest pains and naturally they >take every precaution. >I have to to admit....our local hospital is becoming a home away from >home lately....three trips in less than a year. But I've got to admit >that it is nice when you are recognised with a smile and a cheery >greeting. > >jingles they'll always be nice but at xmas there's nobody qualified to do anything still working in the place. i had a turn at xmas 1999 and they wouldn't release me till a specialist had seen me. but since that was still 4 weeks into the future they let me out after only 4 days. of course all the printouts and buzzing from the wires they had hanging off me were totally wasted as there was nobody around who could read what they meant. For the latest weather where i am click http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:31:54 +0100 Organization: pretty good Sender: valon@laptop.net Message-ID: <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> Reply-To: valon@laptop.net NNTP-Posting-Host: copelands.plus.com (81.174.148.186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066642315 28534170 81.174.148.186 (16 [144431]) User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.7.1 (af286bec.33.463) X-Face: *`~?aqnHRe>Q\~c\W)4lYtI0AU[jzd$QoZJw8cb>?D2rWS\vy:4FV,l{@XxvY>J3qwcIX~<6\ZX%z"x=@%62;9U8vshJ2.`e1COBkrHlb%y`f'.!TB&6K|;M)&v>:2&l3DZsL19Qja kTT[Fk~+R3s'N4x`G]-a;3rhT^m/IbCIyl2/6`iXU$'UO;\q;T2GP~@Glkak&oL.Gk~^0g:Z:jx3t9!SMyMC2]Ubwtf^kK X-no-archive: yes X-Val: on her laptop Status: O Content-Length: 997 Lines: 33 Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:25:26 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" > wrote: > >> >>> E N G L A N D >>> Oi Oi Oi LOL >>> >>> Now on to Melbourne! >>> -- >>> val >>=========== >>Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: >> >>Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! >> >>Bobbie > > Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday > (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and > said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor > Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio > > jingles I didn't realise you were hospitalised last week Jingles - have I missed this important post - I did do a fair bit of ketchuping recently. Hope you are OK now? You're obviously are not a sports lover then LOL -- val at copelands.co.uk http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Syria Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 04:50:08 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <18586-3F92C0B4-85@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1205 Lines: 30 On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:49:56 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Gordon wrote: "I burst out laughing at 'bloviating'.   I don't know >what it means without checking, but it is SO onomatopoeic.   :-)" >******************************************* >Hey Gordon: I couldn't find "bloviating" in my Merriam-Webster >dictionary. I assume codswallop means something like "horse-hockey" >(and not the kind of hockey whereby one rides on the back of a horse >trying to hit a little ball); was able to find onomatopoeic which means >the naming of a thing or action by a vocal imitation of the sound >associated with it; the use of words whose sound suggest the sense, >i.e., buzz, hiss. - >I suppose one could count the sound for giving a raspberry! Jeanette http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=bloviating blo·vi·ate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (blv-t) intr.v. Slang blo·vi·at·ed, blo·vi·at·ing, blo·vi·ates To discourse at length in a pompous or boastful manner: “the rural Babbitt who bloviates about ‘progress’ and ‘growth’” (George Rebeck). -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Bigbazza" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <5jirovcimus6uitlgrf6ivqmacj27job2d@4ax.com> <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <1ICkb.3689$S52.3541@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <3f931bd4.1917849@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:50:41 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f93afec$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.164.36.52 X-Trace: 1066643437 24515 203.164.36.52 Status: O Content-Length: 737 Lines: 21 > OK....back off now you lot....or we will descend to the level of many > other newsgroups.....just like the ones we have left because..... > Well! you know the drill > > jingles Hey...Jingles....I've looked each day to find your posts...(Now ..Don't you say..."Where are yours"....)...Been looking for a Birthday greeting......Thought you may have remembered from AFPF...Mmmmmm...I'm crying...turned that "OLD AGE" of 64...I can't now sing along with the Beatles in that song..."When I'm 64"..Boooo....as I've already there....Such a depression....Mmmm.... Where you've been.... Bigbazza(Barry)..Oz..(The BEST COUNTRY ) remaining in this world.... PS.. (Bigbazza(Barry)...Oz...(Note..OZ..)..City (Sydney..)......) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:08:54 GMT Message-ID: <3f93c03a.16711875@news.individual.net> References: <5jirovcimus6uitlgrf6ivqmacj27job2d@4ax.com> <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <1ICkb.3689$S52.3541@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <3f931bd4.1917849@news.individual.net> <3f93afec$0$24515$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066648136 29152364 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1907 Lines: 45 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:50:41 +1000, "Bigbazza" wrote: >> OK....back off now you lot....or we will descend to the level of many >> other newsgroups.....just like the ones we have left because..... >> Well! you know the drill >> >> jingles > >Hey...Jingles....I've looked each day to find your posts...(Now ..Don't you >say..."Where are yours"....)...Been looking for a Birthday >greeting......Thought you may have remembered from AFPF...Mmmmmm...I'm >crying...turned that "OLD AGE" of 64...I can't now sing along with the >Beatles in that song..."When I'm 64"..Boooo....as I've already there....Such >a depression....Mmmm.... >Where you've been.... > >Bigbazza(Barry)..Oz..(The BEST COUNTRY ) remaining in this world.... >PS.. > > >(Bigbazza(Barry)...Oz...(Note..OZ..)..City (Sydney..)......) > Ok! Ok! You don't have to sing 'Advance Australia Fair' a couple of Oi!s will do.... A happy belated birthday greeting to you Bazza... wish I was as young as you are..... Happy Anniversary to the old Opera House too....30 years it has been standing there, and hosted some very famous people.....(popped in there myself actually....) Well now.....I have been absent a bit of the time, had a long weekend visitor so only had time to download my mail, while she took a shower.... When she left I took a big breath and began to answer my mail....but the breath must have been a bit too big 'cos I landed up in hospital with a monitor on my chest. A false alarm though....but gee we have some very handsome male nurses in Ballarat....I think they may be what keeps me going back there.... All the medicos here are so young....hardly a gray hair among them.... a bit of a change from those pompous types in Melbourne.... Glad to see you back anyway.....throw in a post now and again will you.....just to help keep this end of the world in touch.... jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:10:49 GMT Message-ID: <3f93c287.17300996@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net> <3f93a0d2.8670053@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066648251 29152364 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 3083 Lines: 81 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:11:21 +1000, Jim Vatunz wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:49:25 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:34:58 +1000, Jim Vatunz >> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:17:53 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:21:54 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >>>> >>>>>"jingles" wrote in message >>>>>news:3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net... >>>>>> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> E N G L A N D >>>>>> >> Oi Oi Oi LOL >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Now on to Melbourne! >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> val >>>>>> >=========== >>>>>> >Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Bobbie >>>>>> >>>>>> Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday >>>>>> (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and >>>>>> said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor >>>>>> Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio >>>>>> >>>>>> jingles >>>>> >>>>>I hope they didn't stick a nitroglycerin patch on you as they did on me >>>>>when the same thing happened a year or so ago. That was a killer >>>>>headache! As I recall, I had a choice of soaps, lurid talk shows, or >>>>>turning the thing off and reading. Luckily, I had brought a book with >>>>>me. >>>>> >>>>>Joy >>>> >>>>Had one of those patches 'installed' just once, a bit over a year >>>>ago.....never again. I put my foot down this time..... >>>i take angina pills every day. when i first took them they warned of >>>headaches. they were right. after a few days you get used to them. >>>here's a tip. no matter how crook you get never bother wasting your >>>time going to hospital at xmas time. >>>> >>>>Unfortunately didn't have time to collect a book.... >>>> >>>>jingles >>> >>>For the latest weather where i am click >>>http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ >>I am happy to say that angina is not one of the things I suffer >>from....but you know what it is like. Chest pains and naturally they >>take every precaution. >>I have to to admit....our local hospital is becoming a home away from >>home lately....three trips in less than a year. But I've got to admit >>that it is nice when you are recognised with a smile and a cheery >>greeting. >> >>jingles >they'll always be nice but at xmas there's nobody qualified to do >anything still working in the place. >i had a turn at xmas 1999 and they wouldn't release me till a >specialist had seen me. but since that was still 4 weeks into the >future they let me out after only 4 days. of course all the printouts >and buzzing from the wires they had hanging off me were totally wasted >as there was nobody around who could read what they meant. > >For the latest weather where i am click >http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:12:10 GMT Message-ID: <3f93c2bc.17353609@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net> <3f93a0d2.8670053@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066648331 29152364 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1669 Lines: 40 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:11:21 +1000, Jim Vatunz wrote: >>>> >>>>Had one of those patches 'installed' just once, a bit over a year >>>>ago.....never again. I put my foot down this time..... >>>i take angina pills every day. when i first took them they warned of >>>headaches. they were right. after a few days you get used to them. >>>here's a tip. no matter how crook you get never bother wasting your >>>time going to hospital at xmas time. >>>> >>>>Unfortunately didn't have time to collect a book.... >>>> >>>>jingles >>> >>>For the latest weather where i am click >>>http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ >>I am happy to say that angina is not one of the things I suffer >>from....but you know what it is like. Chest pains and naturally they >>take every precaution. >>I have to to admit....our local hospital is becoming a home away from >>home lately....three trips in less than a year. But I've got to admit >>that it is nice when you are recognised with a smile and a cheery >>greeting. >> >>jingles >they'll always be nice but at xmas there's nobody qualified to do >anything still working in the place. >i had a turn at xmas 1999 and they wouldn't release me till a >specialist had seen me. but since that was still 4 weeks into the >future they let me out after only 4 days. of course all the printouts >and buzzing from the wires they had hanging off me were totally wasted >as there was nobody around who could read what they meant. > >For the latest weather where i am click >http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ Thanks for the warning.....I shall do my best to spend Christmas at home.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:17:10 GMT Message-ID: <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-151.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.151) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066648632 29152364 203.87.45.151 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1715 Lines: 51 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:31:54 +0100, Aries wrote: >Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Sun, 19 Oct >2003 23:25:26 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: > >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >> wrote: >> >>> >>>> E N G L A N D >>>> Oi Oi Oi LOL >>>> >>>> Now on to Melbourne! >>>> -- >>>> val >>>=========== >>>Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: >>> >>>Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! >>> >>>Bobbie >> >> Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday >> (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and >> said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor >> Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio >> >> jingles > >I didn't realise you were hospitalised last week Jingles - have I missed >this important post - I did do a fair bit of ketchuping recently. Hope you >are OK now? You're obviously are not a sports lover then LOL >-- >val at copelands.co.uk >http://copelands.co.uk/val Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away we went... The only bed they had available was in the orthopaedic ward so there I am sitting up in bed eating breakfast, while the three elderly ladies looked enviously on.....it seems they were only allowed fruit juice. Almost choked on my toast and jam I did...... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:28:51 +0100 Organization: pretty good Sender: valon@laptop.net Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> Reply-To: valon@laptop.net NNTP-Posting-Host: copelands.plus.com (81.174.148.186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066656533 28423330 81.174.148.186 (16 [144431]) User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.7.1 (c16c004b.78.416) X-Face: *`~?aqnHRe>Q\~c\W)4lYtI0AU[jzd$QoZJw8cb>?D2rWS\vy:4FV,l{@XxvY>J3qwcIX~<6\ZX%z"x=@%62;9U8vshJ2.`e1COBkrHlb%y`f'.!TB&6K|;M)&v>:2&l3DZsL19Qja kTT[Fk~+R3s'N4x`G]-a;3rhT^m/IbCIyl2/6`iXU$'UO;\q;T2GP~@Glkak&oL.Gk~^0g:Z:jx3t9!SMyMC2]Ubwtf^kK X-no-archive: yes X-Val: on her laptop Status: O Content-Length: 611 Lines: 15 Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:17:10 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: > Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but > as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad > to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... > So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away > we went... Nicholas Cage eh! Drool :) Glad to hear your prob wasn't that serious:) -- val at copelands.co.uk http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:14:24 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <14154-3F93EDC0-72@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUArPbbQp1utuThtIKB0dSr9GIS9AsCFBd9fPGcgiEEP3Wcdc4Iq5ST7wj7 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 888 Lines: 15 jingles wrote: "Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio " *********************************************** Dear jingles: I am sorry to hear you've been in the hospital. I know I missed your humor on this newsgroup and wondered what had happened. I was in hospital the previous week with heart failure, but am feeling better now. Oh, the trials and tribulations of having a disease that incapacitates one! I hope you're back home and feeling better now. My hospital has the local and cable channels and music. So I could see the programs I reularly watched in the evening, when I could figure out which ch. numbers they were called! Get well soon. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:18:35 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <14154-3F93EEBB-73@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhR94TdaFo45jbTh+cvBQ+BSuKmUhQIVAIwDewCbsIezORbJh+p8/fwmLP03 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 582 Lines: 11 Joy wrote: "I hope they didn't stick a nitroglycerin patch on you as they did on me when the same thing happened a year or so ago. That was a killer headache! As I recall, I had a choice of soaps, lurid talk shows, or turning the thing off and reading. Luckily, I had brought a book with me." ********************************************** I also brought books as daytime TV is terrible. I did have niroglycerin patches stuck to me. I didn't get the headaches though. In fact, they helped to increase the flow of blood to my heart reducig my blood ressure and pulse. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:30 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <14154-3F93F043-74@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <52a6abdc.0310191956.31be37c@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAw2EQUdg3OYutBZcmTfKtXStjyW4CFHMs97wOrGG7TAWygsq+KluHiQoH Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 408 Lines: 8 Toci wrote: "I enjoy the political dialogue, except when people seem distressed by the differences of opinion. There are long threads where I've lost interest that I just don't open. Why not do that if you are off a set of topics fo awhile? Toci" ******************************************** I do Toci, but, I wouldn't want to miss anything in a thread that is off the subject, now would I? 8-) Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:13:52 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <14154-3F93FBB0-80@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <4je5pv8mf37qhafhmk5alck2mgrhtep97o@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAl2JzYRTlSqjWRPGjWG2Ne4vdRl4CFBHOupnj8oIn1aGTxa1kfStWFdb2 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 461 Lines: 9 Jan wrote: "May one enquire what *your* reaction would be if your neighbour, in this case Palestine had vowed to bull-doze you and yours into the sea? Do you consider Arafat a 'nice' man?" ******************************************* Of course he isn't. I thought it was vice-versa about bull-dozing into the sea. In any case, neither Sharon or Arafat are "nice" people. Both have the same war-like attitude toward each other in the middle east. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:21:15 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <14154-3F93FD6B-81@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAp2DrHGffxMe9K+WD2r3YyDWz+Q8CFQCkkjem2WfpnrxbTVmg2NIKQjn0Fg== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 418 Lines: 9 Sea wrote: Does Hotmail put all your spam into a Bulk Folder for you? I find that it's a tremendous help. ******************************************* I don't think so. When I click on, I go Mail, then go to "clean-up" which lets one see how much space the mail takes up. If it s about 6 or 7%, then I click on those and discard them. Very seldom do I receive personal mail to me at the Hotmail address. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:24:44 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <14154-3F93FE3C-82@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAs71FKFWyLPuXMmUA3Pf8UUH6lh8CFQCSt3s+2huCXUJE9MY0gd1jjZM4Pg== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 604 Lines: 11 Gordo wrote: "I use Mailwasher to filter and delete mail on the server, but the amount of junk mail is escalating again, though only a few are 'Microsoft' virus emails. =A0 I received, or rather deleted, in excess of 250 junk emails today. =A0 :-(" *************************************** With WebTV we take what MSN puts out there in never never land on the west coast. We do not have a choice on virus/spam filters. We can turn the "filter" function off if desired, when the filter starts to not allow particular ISP's through; (the ISP's which are known for allowing junk/spam through.) Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:41:23 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <14154-3F940223-85@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f854fb9$0$26662$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUApsBy+119JTs0WTOjho9n/8nDamYCFHcMiVlfHc0QH9q3jVv8hWJn9m+u Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 802 Lines: 14 Bobbie wrote: "Therefore the full cost of each medication is $27.30 and that's Australian money, so you can see how American's are being taken by your Pharmeceutical companies. What would a person without your medical insurance plan pay for the BP tabs you take daily? ********************************************** I don't know how much the Cozaar I take for elevated BP would cost off the shelf. I paid $50 recently for a month's supply, which was my copay amount. Without my medical insurance plan, a benefit from my employer when I retired, one of my presriptions (for heart arrhythmias would have cost, for Brand name, about $3.50 a pill and I took 30 a month, or $105. My copay was $25.00. When it finally became a generic drug, I switched to generic and it cost me $15 a month. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 20 Oct 2003 09:19:38 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1961e432.0310200819.38c0aa9e@posting.google.com> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.80.65.232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066666778 11092 127.0.0.1 (20 Oct 2003 16:19:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 712 Lines: 22 > Jan wrote in message >news:... > > > > People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. It sure does not seem that way in America nowadays. Check out this link for an example from yesterday's Sunday newspapers: http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20031019 For those who don't check this link, let me quote in part: "The following is a public service message to an incredible 69% of Americans. THERE IS *NO* EVIDENCE OF A LINK BETWEEN SADDAM HUSSEIN AND 9/11! *NONE!* EVEN THE *WHITE HOUSE* ADMITS IT!" People seem to have far less sense than I credited them for. -The Lady From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:23:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.223 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066667027 171.75.14.223 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:23:47 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:23:47 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 787 Lines: 33 "Lady Dagon" wrote in message news:1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com... > Jan wrote in message news:... > > > > People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. > > This is just another rabid US media storm in a tea-cup. It will pass. > > > Just like our presence in Iraq? Which the President promised would > not be long? WRONG!!! He never promised that. When the President promised we would not be involved in > nation-building? > Yes, he did in campaign speeches. g > Sadly, you are right, this will pass. Under Bush's war against Muslin > fanatics, Christian fanatics are perfectly okay to him and many US > citizens. > Not to me. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <10694-3F9148EF-32@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3c122aad.0310180919.68822d1d@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:23:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.223 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066667029 171.75.14.223 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:23:49 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:23:49 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 814 Lines: 23 "Rod" wrote in message news:3c122aad.0310180919.68822d1d@posting.google.com... > Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote in message news:<10694-3F9148EF-32@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net>... > > Goron - again, a murky memory on your part. Most of the dreadful events > > which have happened (by the terrorists) happened BEFORE Bush took > > office. some afterwards.==suicide bombings in Israel, for instance, has > > been happening under several previous regimes - but has not stopped yet. > > The other points you made are accurate. Let us resolve to be accurate > > in ALL statements.====Olly > > Let's be accurate The suicide bombing in Israel were started when > Sharon got aggressive. In defense of accuracy, the suicide bombing in Israel was RESUMED...... cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <8ceib.7613$av5.4469@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <18585-3F92BB6C-232@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Syria X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:23:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.223 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066667029 171.75.14.223 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:23:49 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:23:49 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 769 Lines: 21 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:18585-3F92BB6C-232@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net... > bob wrote: "No, we went to war to enforce 17 consequitive UN Security > Council Resolutions, all of which Saddam defied. We went to war because > of continual violations of the Gulf War truce. We went to war to > liberate the Iraqi people. We went to war because we saw the possibility > of Saddam providing bio-chemical materiel to terrorists. We went to war > because Saddam supported, funded and harbored terrorists." > **************************************** > Hmmm, I'm wondering why the UN didn't sanction the war, if that is the > excuse for going to war. Good question. BTW, I said it was A reason, not THE reason. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: dori_duz@hotmail.com (Dori) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 20 Oct 2003 09:26:48 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.97.228.116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066667209 11497 127.0.0.1 (20 Oct 2003 16:26:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 259 Lines: 6 Dink wrote in message news:... > God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden > By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 Be my guest - puke away. Lol. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 20 Oct 2003 10:49:14 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1961e432.0310200949.10897e33@posting.google.com> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.80.65.232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066672155 15625 127.0.0.1 (20 Oct 2003 17:49:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 687 Lines: 21 Fay wrote in message news:... > ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote in > news:1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com: > > > The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. > > He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and > > Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. > > My God doesn't run a virgin whore house with 72 virgin whores for men that > kill infidels. True. Nowadays Christians leaders rape little boys or kill them during prayer groups. Do you know about the Crusades? The Inquistion? The Salem Witch Trials? Or are you Jewish? -The Lady From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 20 Oct 2003 10:58:45 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1961e432.0310200958.2fc2a80e@posting.google.com> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.80.65.232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066672725 16110 127.0.0.1 (20 Oct 2003 17:58:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1742 Lines: 47 Jan wrote in message news:... > On 19 Oct 2003 06:14:34 -0700, ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote: > > >Jan wrote in message news:... > >> > >> People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. > >> This is just another rabid US media storm in a tea-cup. It will pass. > > > > > Ah Lady, > You raise many questions that are unanswerable. > >Just like our presence in Iraq? Which the President promised would > >not be long? > > Did he define 'long'. When compared to eternity, how long is long? > One has to be very careful when understanding politicians, they speak > with forked tongues. > > >When the President promised we would not be involved in > >nation-building? > > Now you see you have to define 'nation-building'. Is it restoring a > nation that has been destroyed or is it expanding ones own empire? > > > >Sadly, you are right, this will pass. Under Bush's war against Muslin > >fanatics, Christian fanatics are perfectly okay to him and many US > >citizens. > > > >So pitiful. > > > Please don't get me wrong. Fanatics of *any* description are > unhealthy. The only saving grace for the Christian variety is that > they don't turn themselves into mobile bombs, at least not yet. They do go around killing doctors, however, as well as blowing up medical buildings and places where gay people gather. There was the bombing at the Atlanta Olympics that killed an innocent person. Close enough for me. It seems the Christian fanatics don't blow themself up because they want to stay alive to be able to hurt and kill more people. -The Lady From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 20 Oct 2003 18:43:42 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200819.38c0aa9e@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.149.81.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.149.81) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066675422 28911422 67.74.149.81 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 1338 Lines: 38 ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote in news:1961e432.0310200819.38c0aa9e@posting.google.com: >> Jan wrote in message >> >news:... >> > >> > People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. > > > It sure does not seem that way in America nowadays. > > Check out this link for an example from yesterday's Sunday newspapers: > > > http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=200 > 31019 > > > For those who don't check this link, let me quote in part: > > "The following is a public service message to an incredible 69% of > Americans. THERE IS *NO* EVIDENCE OF A LINK BETWEEN SADDAM HUSSEIN AND > 9/11! *NONE!* EVEN THE *WHITE HOUSE* ADMITS IT!" > > People seem to have far less sense than I credited them for. > > -The Lady Some people think we are too stupid to select our own leaders. Dink -- N 30.21, W 97.81 "Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." ~~ Sarah Brady (President of Handgun Control, Inc.) to Senator Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:06:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <24GVlNAi+Yk$Ewhw@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <5B4GLOAbxxk$EwSI@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066679275 23066 194.222.103.116 (20 Oct 2003 19:47:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:47:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 212 Lines: 10 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >We never had a daughter. >How are you stressful, Gordon? >---Sea > I'm not, I'm perfect - (Hadn't you noticed). It was just self-denigration quip. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:31 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:10:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> <+xLH3aAUzxk$EwQG@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f9388e3.2542340@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066679276 23066 194.222.103.116 (20 Oct 2003 19:47:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:47:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1297 Lines: 39 jingles wrote >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:23:00 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>jingles wrote >>>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:36:00 +0100, Gordon >>>wrote: >>> >>>>~~seadancer~~ wrote >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. >>>>>(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) >>>> >>>>Yes, we know dear, Sinclair disappeared about the same time as you did, >>>>so blatant, so obvious........ >>>> >>>>Presumably he is still too exhausted to write, so you must have been 'de >>>>trop' for him..... >>>>I shall just have to accept the fact that our relationship is over. >>> >>>Ahem! Ahem! I am always standing in the wings.... >>> >>>jingles >>> >>SSSHHH! This woman is insanely jealous, she must never know about us, >>or your life may be in jeopardy. Have you ever been to jeopardy? >>-- >>Gordon > >No! but I was very fond of The Roses of Picardy.... > Funny, but I was going to say something about "That lovely song - The Roses of Jeopardy", it was going through my mind as I opened your post. Oh, Jingles, I can feel the hot blood coursing through my veins....... I'll take another Verapamyl Hydrochloride tablet...... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:11:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> <+xLH3aAUzxk$EwQG@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066679278 23066 194.222.103.116 (20 Oct 2003 19:47:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:47:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 260 Lines: 11 ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >They warned me about you when I first got here, Gordon. >So I'm not surprised at anything you do. >---Sea > Oh you would be, believe me you would be! Wait while I get me rubber gloves on.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:13:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <52a6abdc.0310191956.31be37c@posting.google.com> <14154-3F93F043-74@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066679280 23066 194.222.103.116 (20 Oct 2003 19:48:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:48:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 557 Lines: 14 Jeanette S. wrote >Toci wrote: "I enjoy the political dialogue, except when people seem >distressed by the differences of opinion. There are long threads where >I've lost interest that I just don't open. Why not do that if you are >off a set of topics fo awhile? Toci" >******************************************** >I do Toci, but, I wouldn't want to miss anything in a thread that is off >the subject, now would I? 8-) Jeanette > Plan A was ignoring contentious posts. I think it's time for Plan B. Watch me. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:14:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f9389d7.2786505@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066679282 23066 194.222.103.116 (20 Oct 2003 19:48:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:48:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1211 Lines: 33 jingles wrote >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:38:27 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>Barbara Christian wrote >>>> >>>> >>>> Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a >>>> defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my >>>> vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? >>>> >>>> I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you >>>> can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than >>>> Allah. >>>================== >>>Dink......that was excellent.....excellent! >>>Bobbie >>> >>Indeed! It exposes just how out of date and ridiculous the bible >>'teachings' are. If the Anglican church doesn't come into the 21st >>century and stop treating homosexuality as a curable disease, the >>churches will be completely empty before very long... >>-- >>Gordon > > >Some of the bible teachings stand the test of time.....'As you do unto >the least of my creatures, so you do unto me....' think about it.... > >jingles (He didn't specify, race, colour or creed....) I think about that one every time I kill an insect. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:16:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200958.2fc2a80e@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066679284 23066 194.222.103.116 (20 Oct 2003 19:48:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:48:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 678 Lines: 21 Lady Dagon wrote >Jan wrote in message news:88gmkivkip@4ax.com>... >> >They do go around killing doctors, however, as well as blowing up >medical buildings and places where gay people gather. > >There was the bombing at the Atlanta Olympics that killed an innocent >person. > >Close enough for me. > >It seems the Christian fanatics don't blow themself up because they >want to stay alive to be able to hurt and kill more people. > > -The Lady They say that a period of cold, wet and windy weather is going to sweep across Britain from the East. Tomorrow night is set to be the coldest. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:19:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066679286 23066 194.222.103.116 (20 Oct 2003 19:48:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:48:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 812 Lines: 21 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >"Gordon" wrote >> I saw my security light come on in the back garden this evening, and >> when I looked out to see the trespasser, I was delighted to see for the >> first time the fox that all my neighbours appear to have seen in my >> garden. He/she sniffed around under the bird feeders and then quickly >> went over the fence into next door. >> I may try leaving a little treat for him, he looked thin.... >> Gordon > >Was the fox red or gray? >I almost hit a deer tonight while driving. He ran >across the street just a few yards ahead of me. >I guess I was lucky. >---Sea > Not as lucky as the deer was! All foxes are grey in the dark, or in the beam of a sagging floodlight. The man is coming to fix it on Friday. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:22:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <+SI3PGCaUyk$EwCP@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066679288 23066 194.222.103.116 (20 Oct 2003 19:48:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:48:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 797 Lines: 22 Gordon wrote >~~seadancer~~ wrote > >>Hi Jeanette, >>I learned a long time ago never to put my primary >>email addy out on a newsgroup. >>As you can see, I use a Yahoo addy instead. >>My Yahoo addy gets quite a bit of spam, but at >>least Yahoo dumps it all into a Bulk Folder for me >>and I can delete all of it with one click. >>It just takes constant monitoring if you don't wan't >>the Yahoo mailbox to fill up to max and reject >>incoming personal e-mail. > >My demon mailbox never 'fills up' to the extent that it rejects mail. >I read and 'file' genuine emails, and have some from more than two years >ago! And today my mail server is dead! Nothing on the server for me, and none of my emails are being sent out. HELP! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:09:29 -0300 Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f9389d7.2786505@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066680569 29152285 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1549 Lines: 41 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:14:44 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:38:27 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>Barbara Christian wrote >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a >>>>> defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my >>>>> vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? >>>>> >>>>> I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you >>>>> can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than >>>>> Allah. >>>>================== >>>>Dink......that was excellent.....excellent! >>>>Bobbie >>>> >>>Indeed! It exposes just how out of date and ridiculous the bible >>>'teachings' are. If the Anglican church doesn't come into the 21st >>>century and stop treating homosexuality as a curable disease, the >>>churches will be completely empty before very long... >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >> >>Some of the bible teachings stand the test of time.....'As you do unto >>the least of my creatures, so you do unto me....' think about it.... >> >>jingles (He didn't specify, race, colour or creed....) > >I think about that one every time I kill an insect. :-) You wouldn't have to think about it they had left the Bible alone, Gordon. By making a non sexist "CREATURES" out of the original "BROTHERS" they freak out folks who step on an ant. And before you know it we'll all be Vegans. :-) Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:13:49 -0300 Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200958.2fc2a80e@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066680829 29152285 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 854 Lines: 28 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:16:18 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Lady Dagon wrote >>Jan wrote in message news:>88gmkivkip@4ax.com>... >>> >>They do go around killing doctors, however, as well as blowing up >>medical buildings and places where gay people gather. >> >>There was the bombing at the Atlanta Olympics that killed an innocent >>person. >> >>Close enough for me. >> >>It seems the Christian fanatics don't blow themself up because they >>want to stay alive to be able to hurt and kill more people. >> >> -The Lady > >They say that a period of cold, wet and windy weather is going to sweep >across Britain from the East. Tomorrow night is set to be the coldest. Thank God for that. That should take care of all the hot air that's been blowing. Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:31:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f9389d7.2786505@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066682420 17189 194.222.103.116 (20 Oct 2003 20:40:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:40:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 792 Lines: 23 bforester wrote >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:14:44 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>jingles wrote >>> >>>Some of the bible teachings stand the test of time.....'As you do unto >>>the least of my creatures, so you do unto me....' think about it.... >>> >>>jingles (He didn't specify, race, colour or creed....) >> >>I think about that one every time I kill an insect. :-) > >You wouldn't have to think about it they had left the Bible alone, >Gordon. By making a non sexist "CREATURES" out of the original >"BROTHERS" they freak out folks who step on an ant. And before you >know it we'll all be Vegans. :-) > >Paul Did they really do that? How can you be a Vegan when you're on an Atkins diet though? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:37:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.173 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066682268 32.103.153.173 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:37:48 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:37:48 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2382 Lines: 67 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net... > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:21:54 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > >"jingles" wrote in message > >news:3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net... > >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" > >> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> E N G L A N D > >> >> Oi Oi Oi LOL > >> >> > >> >> Now on to Melbourne! > >> >> -- > >> >> val > >> >=========== > >> >Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: > >> > > >> >Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! > >> > > >> >Bobbie > >> > >> Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday > >> (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and > >> said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor > >> Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio > >> > >> jingles > > > >I hope they didn't stick a nitroglycerin patch on you as they did on me > >when the same thing happened a year or so ago. That was a killer > >headache! As I recall, I had a choice of soaps, lurid talk shows, or > >turning the thing off and reading. Luckily, I had brought a book with > >me. > > > >Joy > > Had one of those patches 'installed' just once, a bit over a year > ago.....never again. I put my foot down this time..... > > Unfortunately didn't have time to collect a book.... > > jingles My mother has had heart trouble for decades, and has nitroglycerine tablets handy. However, she almost never takes one, even when she is having severe chest pain. I couldn't understand that, and her explanation, "The nitro gives me a headache" didn't make sense to me. Then I had that patch and found out what she meant. I've had some bad headaches, but nothing to match that. I had forgotten about my mother's comments until I mentioned the headache to a nurse and she said, "Oh, yes. That's the nitro." Now I understand my mother - and you (at least when it comes to nitro). My pain turned out to be esophageal spasms. The doctor told me nitro helps with that too. I guess you have to decide which pain is worse. Luckily my doctor found something else to help with the spasms, which I don't have very often. It's a wonder anybody ever takes nitro voluntarily - more than once, anyway. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <14154-3F93EEBB-73@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:41:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.173 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066682465 32.103.153.173 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:41:05 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:41:05 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 848 Lines: 24 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:14154-3F93EEBB-73@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Joy wrote: "I hope they didn't stick a nitroglycerin patch on you as > they did on me when the same thing happened a year or so ago. That was a > killer headache! As I recall, I had a choice of soaps, lurid talk shows, > or turning the thing off and reading. Luckily, I had brought a book with > me." > ********************************************** > I also brought books as daytime TV is terrible. I did have niroglycerin > patches stuck to me. I didn't get the headaches though. In fact, they > helped to increase the flow of blood to my heart > reducig my blood ressure and pulse. Jeanette I'm sorry you had the problem, and the hospital stay, but I'm glad the nitro helped without giving you the headache. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:11:09 -0300 Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f9389d7.2786505@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066687868 28987753 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 907 Lines: 28 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:31:18 +0100, Gordon wrote: >bforester wrote >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:14:44 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>jingles wrote >>>> >>>>Some of the bible teachings stand the test of time.....'As you do unto >>>>the least of my creatures, so you do unto me....' think about it.... >>>> >>>>jingles (He didn't specify, race, colour or creed....) >>> >>>I think about that one every time I kill an insect. :-) >> >>You wouldn't have to think about it they had left the Bible alone, >>Gordon. By making a non sexist "CREATURES" out of the original >>"BROTHERS" they freak out folks who step on an ant. And before you >>know it we'll all be Vegans. :-) >> >>Paul >Did they really do that? How can you be a Vegan when you're on an >Atkins diet though? It would be tough!! Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:31:12 GMT Message-ID: <3f94701d.1744232@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f9389d7.2786505@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066692674 29479432 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1392 Lines: 41 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:14:44 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:38:27 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>Barbara Christian wrote >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a >>>>> defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my >>>>> vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? >>>>> >>>>> I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you >>>>> can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than >>>>> Allah. >>>>================== >>>>Dink......that was excellent.....excellent! >>>>Bobbie >>>> >>>Indeed! It exposes just how out of date and ridiculous the bible >>>'teachings' are. If the Anglican church doesn't come into the 21st >>>century and stop treating homosexuality as a curable disease, the >>>churches will be completely empty before very long... >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >> >>Some of the bible teachings stand the test of time.....'As you do unto >>the least of my creatures, so you do unto me....' think about it.... >> >>jingles (He didn't specify, race, colour or creed....) > >I think about that one every time I kill an insect. :-) >-- >Gordon Good...at least you think about it.....and remember jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:32 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:32:28 GMT Message-ID: <3f947071.1827998@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f9389d7.2786505@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066692749 29479432 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1715 Lines: 49 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:09:29 -0300, bforester wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:14:44 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>jingles wrote >>>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:38:27 +0100, Gordon >>>wrote: >>> >>>>Barbara Christian wrote >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a >>>>>> defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my >>>>>> vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? >>>>>> >>>>>> I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you >>>>>> can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than >>>>>> Allah. >>>>>================== >>>>>Dink......that was excellent.....excellent! >>>>>Bobbie >>>>> >>>>Indeed! It exposes just how out of date and ridiculous the bible >>>>'teachings' are. If the Anglican church doesn't come into the 21st >>>>century and stop treating homosexuality as a curable disease, the >>>>churches will be completely empty before very long... >>>>-- >>>>Gordon >>> >>> >>>Some of the bible teachings stand the test of time.....'As you do unto >>>the least of my creatures, so you do unto me....' think about it.... >>> >>>jingles (He didn't specify, race, colour or creed....) >> >>I think about that one every time I kill an insect. :-) > >You wouldn't have to think about it they had left the Bible alone, >Gordon. By making a non sexist "CREATURES" out of the original >"BROTHERS" they freak out folks who step on an ant. And before you >know it we'll all be Vegans. :-) > >Paul Thanks Paul.....hope you are well.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:35:04 GMT Message-ID: <3f9470e7.1945431@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200958.2fc2a80e@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066692906 29479432 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 878 Lines: 29 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:16:18 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Lady Dagon wrote >>Jan wrote in message news:>88gmkivkip@4ax.com>... >>> >>They do go around killing doctors, however, as well as blowing up >>medical buildings and places where gay people gather. >> >>There was the bombing at the Atlanta Olympics that killed an innocent >>person. >> >>Close enough for me. >> >>It seems the Christian fanatics don't blow themself up because they >>want to stay alive to be able to hurt and kill more people. >> >> -The Lady > >They say that a period of cold, wet and windy weather is going to sweep >across Britain from the East. Tomorrow night is set to be the coldest. >-- >Gordon But it is warming up in Oz......Summer is acomming in.... jingles....watching the flowers grow... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:35:53 GMT Message-ID: <3f94713d.2031858@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200958.2fc2a80e@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066692955 29479432 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1011 Lines: 36 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:13:49 -0300, bforester wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:16:18 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>Lady Dagon wrote >>>Jan wrote in message news:>>88gmkivkip@4ax.com>... >>>> >>>They do go around killing doctors, however, as well as blowing up >>>medical buildings and places where gay people gather. >>> >>>There was the bombing at the Atlanta Olympics that killed an innocent >>>person. >>> >>>Close enough for me. >>> >>>It seems the Christian fanatics don't blow themself up because they >>>want to stay alive to be able to hurt and kill more people. >>> >>> -The Lady >> >>They say that a period of cold, wet and windy weather is going to sweep >>across Britain from the East. Tomorrow night is set to be the coldest. > >Thank God for that. That should take care of all the hot air that's >been blowing. > >Paul May I just post one modest 'giggle' Paul, jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:43:23 GMT Message-ID: <3f947247.2297444@news.individual.net> References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> <+xLH3aAUzxk$EwQG@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f9388e3.2542340@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066693404 29479432 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1584 Lines: 52 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:10:27 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:23:00 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>jingles wrote >>>>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:36:00 +0100, Gordon >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>~~seadancer~~ wrote >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks for answering my questions, Gordon. >>>>>>(I'm finally back at 60+ after a Real Life interruption.) >>>>> >>>>>Yes, we know dear, Sinclair disappeared about the same time as you did, >>>>>so blatant, so obvious........ >>>>> >>>>>Presumably he is still too exhausted to write, so you must have been 'de >>>>>trop' for him..... >>>>>I shall just have to accept the fact that our relationship is over. >>>> >>>>Ahem! Ahem! I am always standing in the wings.... >>>> >>>>jingles >>>> >>>SSSHHH! This woman is insanely jealous, she must never know about us, >>>or your life may be in jeopardy. Have you ever been to jeopardy? >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>No! but I was very fond of The Roses of Picardy.... >> >Funny, but I was going to say something about "That lovely song - > The Roses of Jeopardy", it was going through my mind as I opened your >post. Oh, Jingles, I can feel the hot blood coursing through my >veins....... > >I'll take another Verapamyl Hydrochloride tablet...... >-- >Gordon I feel a slight elevation of my temperature too.... A cold shower may be indicated.... "Twas all over my jeapordy, My crime was my blind jeapordy...." jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:48:06 GMT Message-ID: <3f9473c2.2676891@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066693688 29479432 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1241 Lines: 28 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:37:48 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f938bb8.3267948@news.individual.net... >My mother has had heart trouble for decades, and has nitroglycerine >tablets handy. However, she almost never takes one, even when she is >having severe chest pain. I couldn't understand that, and her >explanation, "The nitro gives me a headache" didn't make sense to me. >Then I had that patch and found out what she meant. I've had some bad >headaches, but nothing to match that. I had forgotten about my mother's >comments until I mentioned the headache to a nurse and she said, "Oh, >yes. That's the nitro." Now I understand my mother - and you (at least >when it comes to nitro). My pain turned out to be esophageal spasms. >The doctor told me nitro helps with that too. I guess you have to >decide which pain is worse. Luckily my doctor found something else to >help with the spasms, which I don't have very often. > >It's a wonder anybody ever takes nitro voluntarily - more than once, >anyway. > >Joy I guess if it is a matter of life and death.....you could be tempted, although I understand that not everybody has such a severe reaction.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:50:41 GMT Message-ID: <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066693842 29479432 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 878 Lines: 24 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:28:51 +0100, Aries wrote: >Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 Oct >2003 11:17:10 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: > >> Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >> turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but >> as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad >> to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... >> So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away >> we went... > >Nicholas Cage eh! Drool :) Glad to hear your prob wasn't that serious:) > >-- >val at copelands.co.uk >http://copelands.co.uk/val Just imagine sitting there in your warm winter nighty peering through your night cream into the face of Nicholas Cage..... He did gaze back with sympathy though..... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:54:32 GMT Message-ID: <3f9474f5.2983510@news.individual.net> References: <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <14154-3F93EDC0-72@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066694074 29479432 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1163 Lines: 23 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 09:14:24 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >jingles wrote: "Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed >last Friday (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV >controls and said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, >Motor Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio " >*********************************************** >Dear jingles: I am sorry to hear you've been in the hospital. I know I >missed your humor on this newsgroup and wondered what had happened. I >was in hospital the previous week with heart failure, but am feeling >better now. Oh, the trials and tribulations of having a disease that >incapacitates one! I hope you're back home and feeling better now. My >hospital has the local and cable channels and music. >So I could see the programs I reularly watched in the evening, when I >could figure out which ch. numbers they were called! Get well soon. >Jeanette Glad you're OK too Jeanette.....but look on the bright side.....you CAN watch your favourite programmes..... Like me....you put up a good fight..... jingles (((J))) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200958.2fc2a80e@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:03:47 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.249.17 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066698226 65.95.249.17 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:03:46 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:03:46 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1251 Lines: 39 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:13:49 -0300, bforester wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:16:18 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>Lady Dagon wrote >>>Jan wrote in message news:>>88gmkivkip@4ax.com>... >>>> >>>They do go around killing doctors, however, as well as blowing up >>>medical buildings and places where gay people gather. >>> >>>There was the bombing at the Atlanta Olympics that killed an innocent >>>person. >>> >>>Close enough for me. >>> >>>It seems the Christian fanatics don't blow themself up because they >>>want to stay alive to be able to hurt and kill more people. >>> >>> -The Lady >> >>They say that a period of cold, wet and windy weather is going to sweep >>across Britain from the East. Tomorrow night is set to be the coldest. > >Thank God for that. That should take care of all the hot air that's >been blowing. > >Paul How's the clean-up going Paul? I spoke to Pete just before the week-end and he told me the weather was wet and windy. I believe he has done some dives and was getting ready for this week which was to be the start of the busy period. Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200949.10897e33@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:03:47 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.95.249.17 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066698226 65.95.249.17 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:03:46 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:03:46 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1388 Lines: 46 On 20 Oct 2003 10:49:14 -0700, ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote: >Fay wrote in message news:... >> ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote in >> news:1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com: >> >> > The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. >> > He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >> > Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. >> >> My God doesn't run a virgin whore house with 72 virgin whores for men that >> kill infidels. > > >True. Nowadays Christians leaders rape little boys or kill them >during prayer groups. Probably not all of them. > >Do you know about the Crusades? Any particular one of the seven? Starting in 1095 and lasting for about 250 years. >The Inquistion? Which one? There were three operating in Spain, France and Italy. I believe one of them lasted until the 19th century. Starting in 1231 >The Salem Witch Trials? A truly home-grown one for the US. 1692 wasn't it? > >Or are you Jewish? Or would you rather be a fish? As these are all somewhat ancient history is it alright if I start a thread about the invasions of Britain by the Romans, Norse first then Norse again? Totally unprovoked attacks which should be condemned. > > -The Lady Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:07:49 -0300 Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f9389d7.2786505@news.individual.net> <3f947071.1827998@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066698469 29264350 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 2070 Lines: 58 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:32:28 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:09:29 -0300, bforester >wrote: > >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:14:44 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>jingles wrote >>>>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:38:27 +0100, Gordon >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>Barbara Christian wrote >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Lev. 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a >>>>>>> defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my >>>>>>> vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you >>>>>>> can help. Thank you again for reminding us that your God is better than >>>>>>> Allah. >>>>>>================== >>>>>>Dink......that was excellent.....excellent! >>>>>>Bobbie >>>>>> >>>>>Indeed! It exposes just how out of date and ridiculous the bible >>>>>'teachings' are. If the Anglican church doesn't come into the 21st >>>>>century and stop treating homosexuality as a curable disease, the >>>>>churches will be completely empty before very long... >>>>>-- >>>>>Gordon >>>> >>>> >>>>Some of the bible teachings stand the test of time.....'As you do unto >>>>the least of my creatures, so you do unto me....' think about it.... >>>> >>>>jingles (He didn't specify, race, colour or creed....) >>> >>>I think about that one every time I kill an insect. :-) >> >>You wouldn't have to think about it they had left the Bible alone, >>Gordon. By making a non sexist "CREATURES" out of the original >>"BROTHERS" they freak out folks who step on an ant. And before you >>know it we'll all be Vegans. :-) >> >>Paul > >Thanks Paul.....hope you are well.... > >jingles Why do you have doubts about my well-being, jingles? Just because I left out an "if" ?? :-) Seriously though, yes, I am fine except that somehow I don't feel retired with all the stuff that's going on in my life lately!!!! Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:29:34 GMT Message-ID: <3f948b9b.8782381@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <3f924fe4$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f9389d7.2786505@news.individual.net> <3f947071.1827998@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066699776 29526981 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 557 Lines: 22 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:07:49 -0300, bforester wrote: >>>Paul >> >>Thanks Paul.....hope you are well.... >> >>jingles > >Why do you have doubts about my well-being, jingles? Just because I >left out an "if" ?? :-) Seriously though, yes, I am fine except that >somehow I don't feel retired with all the stuff that's going on in my >life lately!!!! > >Paul You post so seldom, that I am naturally concerned about your well being.... I guess you retired just in time to take over all the other stuff in your life...... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:35:33 GMT Message-ID: <3f948c6a.8989775@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200949.10897e33@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066700134 29641098 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1573 Lines: 54 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:03:47 -0400, Jan wrote: >On 20 Oct 2003 10:49:14 -0700, ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote: > >>Fay wrote in message news:... >>> ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote in >>> news:1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com: >>> >>> > The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. >>> > He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >>> > Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. >>> >>> My God doesn't run a virgin whore house with 72 virgin whores for men that >>> kill infidels. >> >> >>True. Nowadays Christians leaders rape little boys or kill them >>during prayer groups. > >Probably not all of them. >> >>Do you know about the Crusades? > >Any particular one of the seven? Starting in 1095 and lasting for >about 250 years. > >>The Inquistion? > >Which one? There were three operating in Spain, France and Italy. I >believe one of them lasted until the 19th century. Starting in 1231 > >>The Salem Witch Trials? > >A truly home-grown one for the US. 1692 wasn't it? >> >>Or are you Jewish? > >Or would you rather be a fish? > >As these are all somewhat ancient history is it alright if I start a >thread about the invasions of Britain by the Romans, Norse first then >Norse again? Totally unprovoked attacks which should be condemned. >> >> -The Lady > > >Jan >"If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" Boudicea......now there was a real woman.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: gina39d@yahoo.com (toci) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: 20 Oct 2003 18:51:59 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <52a6abdc.0310201751.527d56d5@posting.google.com> References: <52a6abdc.0310191956.31be37c@posting.google.com> <14154-3F93F043-74@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.142.54.93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066701119 6146 127.0.0.1 (21 Oct 2003 01:51:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 606 Lines: 11 jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote in message news:<14154-3F93F043-74@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net>... > Toci wrote: "I enjoy the political dialogue, except when people seem > distressed by the differences of opinion. There are long threads where > I've lost interest that I just don't open. Why not do that if you are > off a set of topics fo awhile? Toci" > ******************************************** > I do Toci, but, I wouldn't want to miss anything in a thread that is off > the subject, now would I? 8-) Jeanette Sure you would. What do you think is Gordon's Plan B? Toci From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:41:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.163 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066704117 32.103.153.163 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:41:57 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:41:57 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1144 Lines: 37 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net... > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:28:51 +0100, Aries wrote: > > >Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 Oct > >2003 11:17:10 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: > > > >> Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > >> turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but > >> as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad > >> to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... > >> So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away > >> we went... > > > >Nicholas Cage eh! Drool :) Glad to hear your prob wasn't that serious:) > > > >-- > >val at copelands.co.uk > >http://copelands.co.uk/val > > Just imagine sitting there in your warm winter nighty peering through > your night cream into the face of Nicholas Cage..... > He did gaze back with sympathy though..... > > jingles If the ambulance man does sympathy as well as Nicholas Cage, that might almost be worth a trip to the hospital. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:33 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:16:24 GMT Message-ID: <3f94a4e9.15262061@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066706185 29626672 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1338 Lines: 45 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:41:57 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net... >> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:28:51 +0100, Aries wrote: >> >> >Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 >Oct >> >2003 11:17:10 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: >> > >> >> Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >> >> turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the >problem....but >> >> as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am >glad >> >> to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... >> >> So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and >away >> >> we went... >> > >> >Nicholas Cage eh! Drool :) Glad to hear your prob wasn't that >serious:) >> > >> >-- >> >val at copelands.co.uk >> >http://copelands.co.uk/val >> >> Just imagine sitting there in your warm winter nighty peering through >> your night cream into the face of Nicholas Cage..... >> He did gaze back with sympathy though..... >> >> jingles > >If the ambulance man does sympathy as well as Nicholas Cage, that might >almost be worth a trip to the hospital. > >Joy > Believe me he did....especially when he held my hand in the ambulance... jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200949.10897e33@posting.google.com> <3f948c6a.8989775@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:21:47 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.117.37 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1066706508 64.231.117.37 (Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:21:48 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:21:48 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 1830 Lines: 62 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:35:33 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:03:47 -0400, Jan >wrote: > >>On 20 Oct 2003 10:49:14 -0700, ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote: >> >>>Fay wrote in message news:... >>>> ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote in >>>> news:1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com: >>>> >>>> > The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. >>>> > He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >>>> > Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. >>>> >>>> My God doesn't run a virgin whore house with 72 virgin whores for men that >>>> kill infidels. >>> >>> >>>True. Nowadays Christians leaders rape little boys or kill them >>>during prayer groups. >> >>Probably not all of them. >>> >>>Do you know about the Crusades? >> >>Any particular one of the seven? Starting in 1095 and lasting for >>about 250 years. >> >>>The Inquistion? >> >>Which one? There were three operating in Spain, France and Italy. I >>believe one of them lasted until the 19th century. Starting in 1231 >> >>>The Salem Witch Trials? >> >>A truly home-grown one for the US. 1692 wasn't it? >>> >>>Or are you Jewish? >> >>Or would you rather be a fish? >> >>As these are all somewhat ancient history is it alright if I start a >>thread about the invasions of Britain by the Romans, Norse first then >>Norse again? Totally unprovoked attacks which should be condemned. >>> >>> -The Lady >> >> >>Jan >>"If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" > >Boudicea......now there was a real woman.... > >jingles And you thought that women's lib was a new-fangled idea. Hah! Jan "If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> <3f94a4e9.15262061@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <3N1lb.187243$0v4.14475483@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:32:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.18 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066707135 32.103.153.18 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:32:15 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:32:15 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1539 Lines: 54 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f94a4e9.15262061@news.individual.net... > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:41:57 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > >"jingles" wrote in message > >news:3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net... > >> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:28:51 +0100, Aries wrote: > >> > >> >Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 > >Oct > >> >2003 11:17:10 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: > >> > > >> >> Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > >> >> turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the > >problem....but > >> >> as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am > >glad > >> >> to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... > >> >> So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and > >away > >> >> we went... > >> > > >> >Nicholas Cage eh! Drool :) Glad to hear your prob wasn't that > >serious:) > >> > > >> >-- > >> >val at copelands.co.uk > >> >http://copelands.co.uk/val > >> > >> Just imagine sitting there in your warm winter nighty peering through > >> your night cream into the face of Nicholas Cage..... > >> He did gaze back with sympathy though..... > >> > >> jingles > > > >If the ambulance man does sympathy as well as Nicholas Cage, that might > >almost be worth a trip to the hospital. > > > >Joy > > > > Believe me he did....especially when he held my hand in the > ambulance... > > jingles Ooooh! ;-) Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:46:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <14154-3F93FD6B-81@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.155.142.33 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066708053 30464186 66.155.142.33 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 655 Lines: 17 "Jeanette S." wrote > Sea wrote: Does Hotmail put all your spam into a Bulk Folder for you? I > find that it's a tremendous help. > ******************************************* > I don't think so. When I click on, I go Mail, then > go to "clean-up" which lets one see how much space the mail takes up. > If it s about 6 or 7%, then I click on those and discard them. Very > seldom do I receive personal mail to me at the Hotmail address. > Jeanette Since I'm Secret Santa coordinator for a newsgroup, I receive quite a bit of mail at my Yahoo addy. So I'm thankful that I can clear out the junk mail with one click. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:51:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <+SI3PGCaUyk$EwCP@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.155.142.33 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066708478 29269077 66.155.142.33 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 914 Lines: 26 "Gordon" wrote > >~~seadancer~~ wrote > >>Hi Jeanette, > >>I learned a long time ago never to put my primary > >>email addy out on a newsgroup. > >>As you can see, I use a Yahoo addy instead. > >>My Yahoo addy gets quite a bit of spam, but at > >>least Yahoo dumps it all into a Bulk Folder for me > >>and I can delete all of it with one click. > >>It just takes constant monitoring if you don't wan't > >>the Yahoo mailbox to fill up to max and reject > >>incoming personal e-mail. > > > >My demon mailbox never 'fills up' to the extent that it rejects mail. > >I read and 'file' genuine emails, and have some from more than two years > >ago! > > And today my mail server is dead! Nothing on the server for me, and > none of my emails are being sent out. HELP! > Gordon At least you don't receive spam that way. Look on the bright side. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:54:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <3f938b52.3165879@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.155.142.33 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066708681 29853128 66.155.142.33 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 389 Lines: 16 "jingles" wrote > wrote: [...] > >I almost hit a deer tonight while driving. He ran > >across the street just a few yards ahead of me. > >I guess I was lucky. > >---Sea > > I'd say the deer had his fair share of luck too 8) > jingles LOL! This is true. I never thought of that. Although I hate to see a deer get hit. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:00:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.155.142.33 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066708891 28785867 66.155.142.33 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 811 Lines: 25 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Was the fox red or gray? > >I almost hit a deer tonight while driving. He ran > >across the street just a few yards ahead of me. > >I guess I was lucky. > >---Sea > > > Not as lucky as the deer was! All foxes are grey in the dark, or in the > beam of a sagging floodlight. The man is coming to fix it on Friday. > > Gordon Yes, the deer was very lucky. They wanted to re-introduce Moose to the Adirondacks, but that would have been terrible for the drivers. Hitting a moose is much worse than hitting a deer. Drivers have been killed that way. Maine has a pretty good moose population. Remember the moose in Northern Exposure, the TV series? It seemed as if he had his own music in the intro. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:01:39 GMT Message-ID: <3f94af32.17895469@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200949.10897e33@posting.google.com> <3f948c6a.8989775@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066708900 29370744 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2164 Lines: 73 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:21:47 -0400, Jan wrote: >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:35:33 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:03:47 -0400, Jan >>wrote: >> >>>On 20 Oct 2003 10:49:14 -0700, ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote: >>> >>>>Fay wrote in message news:... >>>>> ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote in >>>>> news:1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com: >>>>> >>>>> > The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. >>>>> > He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and >>>>> > Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. >>>>> >>>>> My God doesn't run a virgin whore house with 72 virgin whores for men that >>>>> kill infidels. >>>> >>>> >>>>True. Nowadays Christians leaders rape little boys or kill them >>>>during prayer groups. >>> >>>Probably not all of them. >>>> >>>>Do you know about the Crusades? >>> >>>Any particular one of the seven? Starting in 1095 and lasting for >>>about 250 years. >>> >>>>The Inquistion? >>> >>>Which one? There were three operating in Spain, France and Italy. I >>>believe one of them lasted until the 19th century. Starting in 1231 >>> >>>>The Salem Witch Trials? >>> >>>A truly home-grown one for the US. 1692 wasn't it? >>>> >>>>Or are you Jewish? >>> >>>Or would you rather be a fish? >>> >>>As these are all somewhat ancient history is it alright if I start a >>>thread about the invasions of Britain by the Romans, Norse first then >>>Norse again? Totally unprovoked attacks which should be condemned. >>>> >>>> -The Lady >>> >>> >>>Jan >>>"If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" >> >>Boudicea......now there was a real woman.... >> >>jingles > > >And you thought that women's lib was a new-fangled idea. Hah! > >Jan >"If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined" Why do you think the men chained them to the kitchen sink.... I recall reading somewhere that Egypt was once a matriarchy.....the men stayed home and the women did the hunting.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:06:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <24GVlNAi+Yk$Ewhw@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <5B4GLOAbxxk$EwSI@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.155.142.33 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066709316 29167548 66.155.142.33 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 291 Lines: 14 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote [...] > >How are you stressful, Gordon? > >---Sea > > > I'm not, I'm perfect - (Hadn't you noticed). > It was just self-denigration quip. > Gordon I think you're a perfect quipper. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:08:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f8612a7$0$30614$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> <+xLH3aAUzxk$EwQG@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.155.142.33 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066709521 30044688 66.155.142.33 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 462 Lines: 17 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >They warned me about you when I first got here, Gordon. > >So I'm not surprised at anything you do. > >---Sea > > > Oh you would be, believe me you would be! > Wait while I get me rubber gloves on.... > Gordon Are you going to scrub the floors? I knew a gal who had to wear rubber gloves just to wash the dishes because her skin was so sensitive. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 20 Oct 2003 21:38:30 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.250.255.254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066711111 13556 127.0.0.1 (21 Oct 2003 04:38:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:38:31 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1126 Lines: 21 dori_duz@hotmail.com (Dori) wrote in message news:<7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com>... > Dink wrote in message news:... > > God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden > > By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 > > Be my guest - puke away. Lol. I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. I am puking at what is being done in the name of the Lord. Rod I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. When we kill not because we are threatened but because somebody might do something we turn away from the teachings of the Christians with pre-emptive war.People who do that are foul criminals No amount of fancy words or stupid logic will stop me from puking. I am puking at what is being done in the name of the Lord. Rod From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jim Vatunz Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:06:34 +1000 Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.173.20.180 X-Trace: 1066712795 freenews.iinet.net.au 23610 203.173.20.180 Status: O Content-Length: 2037 Lines: 58 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:17:10 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:31:54 +0100, Aries wrote: > >>Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Sun, 19 Oct >>2003 23:25:26 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: >> >>> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> E N G L A N D >>>>> Oi Oi Oi LOL >>>>> >>>>> Now on to Melbourne! >>>>> -- >>>>> val >>>>=========== >>>>Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: >>>> >>>>Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! >>>> >>>>Bobbie >>> >>> Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday >>> (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and >>> said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor >>> Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio >>> >>> jingles >> >>I didn't realise you were hospitalised last week Jingles - have I missed >>this important post - I did do a fair bit of ketchuping recently. Hope you >>are OK now? You're obviously are not a sports lover then LOL >>-- >>val at copelands.co.uk >>http://copelands.co.uk/val > >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but >as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad >to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... >So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away >we went... >The only bed they had available was in the orthopaedic ward so there I >am sitting up in bed eating breakfast, while the three elderly ladies >looked enviously on.....it seems they were only allowed fruit juice. >Almost choked on my toast and jam I did...... > >jingles > > oh dear. what state did you say you lived in? you may need a 2nd mortgage to pay for an ambulance in some places. For the latest weather where i am click http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:35:30 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1378 Lines: 33 On 20 Oct 2003 21:38:30 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >dori_duz@hotmail.com (Dori) wrote in message news:<7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com>... >> Dink wrote in message news:... >> > God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden >> > By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) >> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 >> >> Be my guest - puke away. Lol. > >I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not >to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The >ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. I am puking at what is >being done in the name of the Lord. Rod > >I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not >to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The >ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. When we kill not because we >are threatened but because somebody might do something we turn away >from the teachings of the Christians with pre-emptive war.People who >do that are foul criminals No amount of fancy words or stupid logic >will stop me from puking. I am puking at what is being done in the >name of the Lord. Rod Well puke away. The day is young. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:11:54 GMT Message-ID: <3f94cdfe.25780109@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066716715 29880096 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2303 Lines: 67 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:06:34 +1000, Jim Vatunz wrote: >On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:17:10 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > >>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:31:54 +0100, Aries wrote: >> >>>Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Sun, 19 Oct >>>2003 23:25:26 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: >>> >>>> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:07:54 +1000, "Barbara Christian" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> E N G L A N D >>>>>> Oi Oi Oi LOL >>>>>> >>>>>> Now on to Melbourne! >>>>>> -- >>>>>> val >>>>>=========== >>>>>Good win......however, when you get to Melbourne, it's to be: >>>>> >>>>>Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!! >>>>> >>>>>Bobbie >>>> >>>> Lying (or should that be laying?) in my hospital bed last Friday >>>> (false alarm for chest pains) the nurse offered me the TV controls and >>>> said 'Enjoy!' I had the choice of Rugby, Football, Cricket, Motor >>>> Bikes or the Children's Programme......I chose radio >>>> >>>> jingles >>> >>>I didn't realise you were hospitalised last week Jingles - have I missed >>>this important post - I did do a fair bit of ketchuping recently. Hope you >>>are OK now? You're obviously are not a sports lover then LOL >>>-- >>>val at copelands.co.uk >>>http://copelands.co.uk/val >> >>Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >>turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but >>as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad >>to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... >>So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away >>we went... >>The only bed they had available was in the orthopaedic ward so there I >>am sitting up in bed eating breakfast, while the three elderly ladies >>looked enviously on.....it seems they were only allowed fruit juice. >>Almost choked on my toast and jam I did...... >> >>jingles >> >> >oh dear. what state did you say you lived in? >you may need a 2nd mortgage to pay for an ambulance in some places. > >For the latest weather where i am click >http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ Here in Victoria we 'poor' pensioners ride for free.... though I had to come home under my own steam.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:34 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jim Vatunz Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:30:13 +1000 Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94cdfe.25780109@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.173.20.180 X-Trace: 1066717814 freenews.iinet.net.au 23592 203.173.20.180 Status: O Content-Length: 591 Lines: 18 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:11:54 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >Here in Victoria we 'poor' pensioners ride for free.... though I >had to come home under my own steam.... > >jingles i think in QLD everyone gets a free ride now, since they put a levy on the power bills in July. i got my 2 yearly good news letter yesterday with my disability pension being extended for another 2 years after the nuisance and stressful review. i wish they'd just leave me alone like they did 30 years ago. For the latest weather where i am click http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Sylvia M." Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:01:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: "Sylvia M." NNTP-Posting-Host: pool0306.cvx11-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (209.178.189.51) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066719540 29547799 209.178.189.51 (16 [97266]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1059 Lines: 26 "Gordon" wrote in message news:bSa+v6BSOyk$EwGs@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Jeanette S. wrote > >Hi to all you out there! I've stopped delving into > >the newsgroups with my primary email addy and have started using this > >hotmail one. The phoney MSN stuff stopped coming to my primary address, > >so decided to use this one to "fool" any web crawlers MSN installed a > >couple of new filters which seem to be working okay so far. I've > >received 4 of the phoney messages in this new address, right where I > >want to keep them. How are you other webbies handling the problem? > >Jeanette > > > I use Mailwasher to filter and delete mail on the server, but the amount > of junk mail is escalating again, though only a few are 'Microsoft' > virus emails. I received, or rather deleted, in excess of 250 junk > emails today. :-( > -- > Gordon Thanks for the Mailwasher info. I went there and downloaded it. I think I'll like it. I just love sending it back to the Microsoft-not fools. Sylvia From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:41:16 GMT Message-ID: <3f94e2c8.31103203@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94cdfe.25780109@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-021.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.21) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066722077 29579548 203.87.45.21 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 922 Lines: 29 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:30:13 +1000, Jim Vatunz wrote: >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:11:54 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > > >>Here in Victoria we 'poor' pensioners ride for free.... though I >>had to come home under my own steam.... >> >>jingles > >i think in QLD everyone gets a free ride now, since they put a levy on >the power bills in July. >i got my 2 yearly good news letter yesterday with my disability >pension being extended for another 2 years after the nuisance and >stressful review. i wish they'd just leave me alone like they did 30 >years ago. > >For the latest weather where i am click >http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ am I reading this correctly? You have to go through the whole performance to prove your disability every two years? I agree that would be pretty stressful, especially as you are not in the first flush of youth.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jim Vatunz Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:40:34 +1000 Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94cdfe.25780109@news.individual.net> <3f94e2c8.31103203@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.173.20.180 X-Trace: 1066725635 freenews.iinet.net.au 23592 203.173.20.180 Status: O Content-Length: 600 Lines: 18 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:41:16 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >am I reading this correctly? You have to go through the whole >performance to prove your disability every two years? I agree that >would be pretty stressful, especially as you are not in the first >flush of youth.... > >jingles not quite. but i do have to fill out a form telling them everything about me and my doctor has to do one as well. pity is when like me you move around and get new doctors who are far from familiar with you. For the latest weather where i am click http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Aries Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:22:01 +0100 Organization: pretty good Sender: valon@laptop.net Message-ID: <1r77qsz66u6p1.dlg@copelands.co.uk> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> Reply-To: valon@laptop.net NNTP-Posting-Host: copelands.plus.com (81.174.148.186) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066731725 29831722 81.174.148.186 (16 [144431]) User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.7.1 (3a392b7a.104.390) X-Face: *`~?aqnHRe>Q\~c\W)4lYtI0AU[jzd$QoZJw8cb>?D2rWS\vy:4FV,l{@XxvY>J3qwcIX~<6\ZX%z"x=@%62;9U8vshJ2.`e1COBkrHlb%y`f'.!TB&6K|;M)&v>:2&l3DZsL19Qja kTT[Fk~+R3s'N4x`G]-a;3rhT^m/IbCIyl2/6`iXU$'UO;\q;T2GP~@Glkak&oL.Gk~^0g:Z:jx3t9!SMyMC2]Ubwtf^kK X-no-archive: yes X-Val: on her laptop Status: O Content-Length: 1094 Lines: 31 Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:50:41 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:28:51 +0100, Aries wrote: > >>Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 Oct >>2003 11:17:10 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: >> >>> Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >>> turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but >>> as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad >>> to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... >>> So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away >>> we went... >> >>Nicholas Cage eh! Drool :) Glad to hear your prob wasn't that serious:) >> >>-- >>val at copelands.co.uk >>http://copelands.co.uk/val > > Just imagine sitting there in your warm winter nighty peering through > your night cream into the face of Nicholas Cage..... > He did gaze back with sympathy though..... > > jingles giggle! -- val at copelands.co.uk http://copelands.co.uk/val From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:59:28 +0100 Message-ID: <2RHF$NAg+Rl$Ew7A@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <52a6abdc.0310191956.31be37c@posting.google.com> <14154-3F93F043-74@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> <52a6abdc.0310201751.527d56d5@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066738130 13247 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 12:08:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:08:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 712 Lines: 17 toci wrote >jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote in message news:<14154-3F93F043-74@s >torefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net>... >> Toci wrote: "I enjoy the political dialogue, except when people seem >> distressed by the differences of opinion. There are long threads where >> I've lost interest that I just don't open. Why not do that if you are >> off a set of topics fo awhile? Toci" >> ******************************************** >> I do Toci, but, I wouldn't want to miss anything in a thread that is off >> the subject, now would I? 8-) Jeanette > >Sure you would. What do you think is Gordon's Plan B? > Toci Clue: I have already used it once and it worked. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:00:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200949.10897e33@posting.google.com> <3f948c6a.8989775@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066738131 13247 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 12:08:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:08:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 151 Lines: 9 jingles wrote > >Boudicea......now there was a real woman.... > >jingles > Nice set of wheels, too....... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 21 Oct 2003 06:08:36 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <3c122aad.0310210508.4e9e3965@posting.google.com> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.250.255.19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066741717 3819 127.0.0.1 (21 Oct 2003 13:08:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1886 Lines: 54 "Bob Thomas" wrote in message news:... > "Lady Dagon" wrote in message > news:1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com... > > Jan wrote in message > news:... > > > > > > People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. > > > This is just another rabid US media storm in a tea-cup. It will pass. > > > > > > Just like our presence in Iraq? Which the President promised would > > not be long? > > WRONG!!! He never promised that. Rumsfeld not Bush but then it is Bush's man said on April 13, 2003 Meet the Press: "The task is to create an environment that is sufficiently permissive that the Iraqi people can fashion a new government. And what they will do is come together in one way or another and select an interim authority of some kind. Then that group will propose a constitution and a more permanent authority of some kind. And over some period of months, the Iraqis will have their government selected by Iraqi people." On the same program, Ahmed Chalabi, the Pentagon's favored exile, stated: "After (Gen. Jay Garner) finishes his job of restoring basic services, the interim Iraqi authority will be established. And that interim authority will be an authority of Iraqis, chosen by Iraqis. And it will be able to function as an authority in the country immediately after Gen. Garner's job is finished, which should be only a few weeks." Rod > > When the President promised we would not be involved in > > nation-building? > > > Yes, he did in campaign speeches. > g > > Sadly, you are right, this will pass. Under Bush's war against Muslin > > fanatics, Christian fanatics are perfectly okay to him and many US > > citizens. > > > Not to me. > > cheers > > bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:40:27 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <20858-3F95455B-86@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQgB1HpHkS0myMZ7xGEx4A0CQKbKgIUM7JlURyY5TgwfWb2aXolJWqYHWA= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 229 Lines: 7 Gordon wrote: "Plan A was ignoring contentious posts. I think it's time for Plan B. Watch me. =A0 " ********************************* I'll be watching with bated/baited breath! Which is it - bated or baited? 8-) Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:42:59 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <20857-3F9545F3-252@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <2RHF$NAg+Rl$Ew7A@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhR0bKJS3la0D1im70q1HUuZkn9z+AIUN+MSzn3qCE/z7DXEbJvXW1+3ZPk= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 214 Lines: 5 Tocie wrote: Sure you would. What do you think is Gordon's Plan B? Toci Gordon wrote: "Clue: I have already used it once and it worked." *********************************** A good detective I am not! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:46:55 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <20857-3F9546DF-253@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAohEpyZFnwG8tQJ3pHHtT/YHDOBwCFCXOfH5mbaon5jAgFgt4LQxR5BBk Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 279 Lines: 7 Joy wrote: "It's a wonder anybody ever takes nitro voluntarily - more than once, anyway." ********************************** I know. I was leery because I'd heard of the headaches people got when using it. Luckily it didn't happen to me, and is really helpig my BP. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:53:14 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <20857-3F95485A-254@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f94a4e9.15262061@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAx2kYHwF2/qFqRHkCHjvedd4Tdu8CFAzok2HIkKIRkRzi8akePI7Uwj7K Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 429 Lines: 9 Joy wrote: "If the ambulance man does sympathy as well as Nicholas Cage, that might almost be worth a trip to the hospital. " ************************************* Almost. Did you hear Nick and Lisa Marie are going to get married again? Unbelievable! I do think Nick could do better than her, but so far, he seems to have struck out in the marriage deprtment. Too bad, because I really like him and his movies. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:58:45 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <20859-3F9549A5-38@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAoiACaFm5Zm5I2tyYIurQeUDVy9YCFQCNIdtH0JlEq+tSj/04f51wjCnTuQ== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 414 Lines: 10 Gordon wrote: "My demon mailbox never 'fills up' to the extent that it rejects mail. I read and 'file' genuine emails, and have some from more than two years ago!" and today wrote: And today my mail server is dead! =A0 Nothing on the server for me, and none of my emails are being sent out. =A0 HELP! ******************************** Uh oh! Did you knock on wood when you made your first statement? Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <6BHG79An+xk$Ewzf@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:34:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.27.239 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066750477 171.75.27.239 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:34:37 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:34:37 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 498 Lines: 21 "Gordon" wrote in message news:6BHG79An+xk$Ewzf@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Eugene A. Calame wrote > > > >Simple. It is the old testament you are quoting. If you are a Christian you go > >by the New Testament. > > > >If you are an atheist just forget it. You are own your on. > > > This is not a rehearsal - this is the only life you are going to get! > I quite agree. Life is a reality to be experienced, not a mystery to be solved. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:35 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 21 Oct 2003 08:37:31 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.9.134.185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066750651 11304 127.0.0.1 (21 Oct 2003 15:37:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1546 Lines: 30 Eugene A. Calame wrote in message news:<5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com>... > On 20 Oct 2003 21:38:30 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: > > >dori_duz@hotmail.com (Dori) wrote in message news:<7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com>... > >> Dink wrote in message news:... > >> > God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden > >> > By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) > >> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 > >> > >> Be my guest - puke away. Lol. > > > >I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not > >to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The > >ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. I am puking at what is > >being done in the name of the Lord. Rod > > > >I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not > >to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The > >ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. When we kill not because we > >are threatened but because somebody might do something we turn away > >from the teachings of the Christians with pre-emptive war.People who > >do that are foul criminals No amount of fancy words or stupid logic > >will stop me from puking. I am puking at what is being done in the > >name of the Lord. Rod > > > Well puke away. The day is young. thank you Eugene for your permission Your brand of Christiany shines throu. I guess you like to kill and approve of criminals Rod From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:03:27 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <23mapvop2j2v9lmbipm8f29135kptjla7s@4ax.com> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 1834 Lines: 44 On 21 Oct 2003 08:37:31 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >Eugene A. Calame wrote in message news:<5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com>... >> On 20 Oct 2003 21:38:30 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >> >> >dori_duz@hotmail.com (Dori) wrote in message news:<7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com>... >> >> Dink wrote in message news:... >> >> > God put Bush in charge, says the general hunting bin Laden >> >> > By David Rennie (Filed: 17/10/2003) >> >> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12D21D36 >> >> >> >> Be my guest - puke away. Lol. >> > >> >I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not >> >to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The >> >ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. I am puking at what is >> >being done in the name of the Lord. Rod >> > >> >I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not >> >to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The >> >ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. When we kill not because we >> >are threatened but because somebody might do something we turn away >> >from the teachings of the Christians with pre-emptive war.People who >> >do that are foul criminals No amount of fancy words or stupid logic >> >will stop me from puking. I am puking at what is being done in the >> >name of the Lord. Rod >> >> >> Well puke away. The day is young. > >thank you Eugene for your permission Your brand of Christiany shines >throu. I guess you like to kill and approve of criminals Rod See you are still puking. Enjoy the process. Enjoy the day. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:28:08 +0100 Message-ID: <1V5FeSAY6Vl$Ew6P@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> <+xLH3aAUzxk$EwQG@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066757996 24454 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 17:39:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:39:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1083 Lines: 32 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >"Gordon" wrote >> ~~seadancer~~ wrote >> >They warned me about you when I first got here, Gordon. >> >So I'm not surprised at anything you do. >> >---Sea >> > >> Oh you would be, believe me you would be! >> Wait while I get me rubber gloves on.... >> Gordon > >Are you going to scrub the floors? >I knew a gal who had to wear rubber gloves just >to wash the dishes because her skin was so >sensitive. >---Sea > When did you last wash the dishes? I expect you have a dishwasher. Fact 1 - Modern washing up detergents are not kind to your skin, in fact they remove all the natural oils if you are not careful. Fact 2 - To hand-wash dishes in hot enough water to be effective, you would scald your hands, unless you wear gloves. This is why I wear rubber gloves to wash up, but of course I do this after almost every meal..... Fact 3 - These hands, which have given so much pleasure to a few special women, are not to be roughened by menial tasks...... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:30:04 +0100 Message-ID: References: <2RHF$NAg+Rl$Ew7A@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20857-3F9545F3-252@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066757999 24454 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 17:39:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:39:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 403 Lines: 10 Jeanette S. wrote >Tocie wrote: Sure you would. What do you think is Gordon's Plan B? Toci >Gordon wrote: "Clue: I have already used it once and it worked." >*********************************** >A good detective I am not! Jeanette > OK, wait until someone else gets unpleasant or insulting about politics and read my response. It's mindless, really..... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:35:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066758001 24454 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 17:40:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:40:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 617 Lines: 16 Rod wrote >Eugene A. Calame wrote in message news:<5bh9pv023739gk9brg >1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com>... >> >> Well puke away. The day is young. > >thank you Eugene for your permission Your brand of Christiany shines >throu. I guess you like to kill and approve of criminals Rod Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature was down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over and we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and Great tits back to my garden feeders. -- Gordon (Smiling at Jeanette) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:36:46 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066758003 24454 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 17:40:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:40:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 512 Lines: 16 ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Yes, the deer was very lucky. >They wanted to re-introduce Moose to the Adirondacks, >but that would have been terrible for the drivers. >Hitting a moose is much worse than hitting a deer. >Drivers have been killed that way. >Maine has a pretty good moose population. >Remember the moose in Northern Exposure, >the TV series? It seemed as if he had his own >music in the intro. >---Sea > You mean Bullwinkle and his buddy, Rocky the squirrel? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:38:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <+SI3PGCaUyk$EwCP@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066758004 24454 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 17:40:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:40:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1028 Lines: 29 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >"Gordon" wrote >> >~~seadancer~~ wrote >> >>Hi Jeanette, >> >>I learned a long time ago never to put my primary >> >>email addy out on a newsgroup. >> >>As you can see, I use a Yahoo addy instead. >> >>My Yahoo addy gets quite a bit of spam, but at >> >>least Yahoo dumps it all into a Bulk Folder for me >> >>and I can delete all of it with one click. >> >>It just takes constant monitoring if you don't wan't >> >>the Yahoo mailbox to fill up to max and reject >> >>incoming personal e-mail. >> > >> >My demon mailbox never 'fills up' to the extent that it rejects mail. >> >I read and 'file' genuine emails, and have some from more than two years >> >ago! >> >> And today my mail server is dead! Nothing on the server for me, and >> none of my emails are being sent out. HELP! >> Gordon > >At least you don't receive spam that way. >Look on the bright side. >---Sea > I'm getting over 250 a day spam. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 21 Oct 2003 09:38:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1961e432.0310210838.73ad8b85@posting.google.com> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200949.10897e33@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.80.65.232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066754335 14499 127.0.0.1 (21 Oct 2003 16:38:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 2233 Lines: 58 Jan wrote in message news:... > On 20 Oct 2003 10:49:14 -0700, ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote: > > >Fay wrote in message news:... > >> ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote in > >> news:1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com: > >> > >> > The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. > >> > He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and > >> > Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. > >> > >> My God doesn't run a virgin whore house with 72 virgin whores for men that > >> kill infidels. > > > > > >True. Nowadays Christians leaders rape little boys or kill them > >during prayer groups. > > Probably not all of them. > > > >Do you know about the Crusades? > > Any particular one of the seven? Starting in 1095 and lasting for > about 250 years. > > >The Inquistion? > > Which one? There were three operating in Spain, France and Italy. I > believe one of them lasted until the 19th century. Starting in 1231 > > >The Salem Witch Trials? > > A truly home-grown one for the US. 1692 wasn't it? > > > >Or are you Jewish? > > Or would you rather be a fish? > > As these are all somewhat ancient history is it alright if I start a > thread about the invasions of Britain by the Romans, Norse first then > Norse again? Totally unprovoked attacks which should be condemned. Ah, time heals all wounds. I bet that was a lot of comfort to those innocents centuries ago who were tortured and hanged and burned alive. Islam is a realitive young religion, especially compared to Chrsitianity. Christianity at the same age as Islam is currently was widely doing the same horrible things that Islam extremists are now doing. 0nly in Christianity case, it was official church policy. Christians need to realize this. They need to remember their religion was once as guilt of many of the same evil things some Muslims are doing today who believe in Islam. This is not for the Christians to condone it, but rather that they need to remember their hands were once has equally bloody, if not more so. -The Lady From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:39:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20859-3F9549A5-38@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066758007 24454 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 17:40:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:40:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 538 Lines: 14 Jeanette S. wrote >Gordon wrote: "My demon mailbox never 'fills up' to the extent that it >rejects mail. I read and 'file' genuine emails, and have some from more >than two years ago!" >and today wrote: >And today my mail server is dead!   Nothing on the server for me, and >none of my emails are being sent out.   HELP! >******************************** >Uh oh! Did you knock on wood when you made your first statement? >Jeanette > I would've, but I forgot where I put my head for the moment. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:42:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <14154-3F93FD6B-81@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066758009 24454 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 17:40:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:40:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1039 Lines: 25 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >"Jeanette S." wrote >> Sea wrote: Does Hotmail put all your spam into a Bulk Folder for you? I >> find that it's a tremendous help. >> ******************************************* >> I don't think so. When I click on, I go Mail, then >> go to "clean-up" which lets one see how much space the mail takes up. >> If it s about 6 or 7%, then I click on those and discard them. Very >> seldom do I receive personal mail to me at the Hotmail address. >> Jeanette > >Since I'm Secret Santa coordinator for a newsgroup, >I receive quite a bit of mail at my Yahoo addy. >So I'm thankful that I can clear out the junk mail with >one click. >---Sea > It's too late for me now because I can't easily change my demon address, and I didn't munge it from the start for newsgroups. One day I may get it changed though. Mailwasher automatically filters 98% of the spam now I've got it set up, so it's a one-click operation. I just save the V*agra ones in case.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20857-3F9546DF-253@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:16:10 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066760170 32.103.153.201 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:16:10 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:16:10 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 603 Lines: 17 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:20857-3F9546DF-253@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Joy wrote: "It's a wonder anybody ever takes nitro voluntarily - more > than once, anyway." > ********************************** > I know. I was leery because I'd heard of the headaches people got when > using it. Luckily it didn't happen to me, and is really helpig my BP. > Jeanette I'm glad to hear it, Jeanette. I didn't know it was ever used for BP. The medication I take for that has no side effects - or rather I am experiencing no side effects from it. ;-) Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f94a4e9.15262061@news.individual.net> <20857-3F95485A-254@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:17:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066760238 32.103.153.201 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:17:18 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:17:18 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 752 Lines: 20 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:20857-3F95485A-254@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Joy wrote: "If the ambulance man does sympathy as well as Nicholas Cage, > that might almost be worth a trip to the hospital. " > ************************************* > Almost. Did you hear Nick and Lisa Marie are going to get married > again? Unbelievable! I do think Nick could do better than her, but so > far, he seems to have struck out in the marriage deprtment. Too bad, > because I really like him > and his movies. Jeanette Yes I did, and I agree - all around. Of course maybe if he'd look for somebody in his own age group, he'd have better luck with marriage. Did you see him in "City of Angels?" Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:36 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <20858-3F95455B-86@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:18:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066760308 32.103.153.201 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:18:28 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:18:28 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 552 Lines: 18 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:20858-3F95455B-86@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net... Gordon wrote: "Plan A was ignoring contentious posts. I think it's time for Plan B. Watch me. " ********************************* I'll be watching with bated/baited breath! Which is it - bated or baited? 8-) Jeanette That depends on what you've been eating. If you're trying to catch a mouse, and you eat cheese, it's baited. Bate is a form of "abate". I believe "bated breath" means you're holding your breath. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2RHF$NAg+Rl$Ew7A@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20857-3F9545F3-252@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:19:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066760360 32.103.153.201 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:19:20 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:19:20 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 620 Lines: 21 "Gordon" wrote in message news:wVsEOfAM8Vl$Ew6c@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Jeanette S. wrote > >Tocie wrote: Sure you would. What do you think is Gordon's Plan B? Toci > >Gordon wrote: "Clue: I have already used it once and it worked." > >*********************************** > >A good detective I am not! Jeanette > > > OK, wait until someone else gets unpleasant or insulting about politics > and read my response. It's mindless, really..... > -- > Gordon That's appropriate, since getting unpleasant or insulting about politics is also mindless. ;-) Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:22:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066760548 32.103.153.201 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:22:28 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:22:28 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 856 Lines: 31 "Gordon" wrote in message news:H2d5W3AKBWl$EwvU@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Rod wrote > >Eugene A. Calame wrote in message news:<5bh9pv023739gk9brg > >1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com>... > >> > >> Well puke away. The day is young. > > > >thank you Eugene for your permission Your brand of Christiany shines > >throu. I guess you like to kill and approve of criminals Rod > > Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature was > down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over and > we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and > Great tits back to my garden feeders. > -- > Gordon > (Smiling at Jeanette) I like Plan B. Too bad we can't average out our weather. It is supposed to be about 38C here today. Joy Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <5Telb.9601$Ec1.871834@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:26:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066760769 32.103.153.201 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:26:09 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:26:09 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1279 Lines: 37 "Gordon" wrote in message news:Z24+GCBeCWl$EwNH@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > > > >Yes, the deer was very lucky. > >They wanted to re-introduce Moose to the Adirondacks, > >but that would have been terrible for the drivers. > >Hitting a moose is much worse than hitting a deer. > >Drivers have been killed that way. > >Maine has a pretty good moose population. > >Remember the moose in Northern Exposure, > >the TV series? It seemed as if he had his own > >music in the intro. > >---Sea > > > You mean Bullwinkle and his buddy, Rocky the squirrel? > -- > Gordon Different moose and different show, but I liked Bullwinkle and Rocky. Northern Exposure was about a fictional Alaska town. My mother, who lives in Alaska, said a lot of Alaskans enjoyed watching the show because it was so ridiculous. Incidentally, Sea is right about hitting a moose being dangerous. A friend of my mother's had an accident with a moose before my mother moved to Alaska. The woman hit the moose, apparently while driving fairly fast. The moose landed on the top of her car, and the woman had brain damage as a result. She walks with a limp and has trouble with speech, among other problems, as a result. Joy Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <736-3F959799-96@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUApK/K0ahatF2Ym/rgN//DSo/0oOsCFEGn6QwbNClFSEpfZhTgtc34fhPW Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 131 Lines: 3 Bob - you wrote that life is to be experienced, not a mystery to be solved. I feel those two are not mutually exclusive.====Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRW3eNvcdrDUROuOc4Td2rSB4LDwgIVAIR1Ws57w0G+0CgoASqD3qGvjLfj Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 1174 Lines: 20 Jeanette - - there is a difference between imposing (sometimes in an insulting manner) one's views upon others, or discussing various points of view.Many are, indeed, interested in politics and world affairs, and they should, ideally lead to good discussions. If only people will remain civil. I noticed that,currently, there was a dicssion about religion - -well, nothing could possibly be more delicate and controversial than that!! Why don't you let those who do feel insulted plead their own case, and solve their dilemma, and let the chips fall where they may!!!!!! I, for one, much prefer exchanges about world affairs, politics, yes, religion , if need be, cultural questions,etc.etc. - than what chores we are planning to do, or how we spent the day yesterday,etc.etc. Although, occasionally, I, too, enjoy some little reverie, either from the past, or from personal experience - as long as that does not become a "chronic" condition!! An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a challenge!!!!!!!!Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <735-3F959A83-247@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQYNeaXqMHtBWOWymn8zHRHgwbxrQIUD72ETcUob1UGx9gM8HQkauT3BnE= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 34 Lines: 2 Gordon - - hear, hear!!!----Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <735-3F959B08-249@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQES0ReEHoiWcx/e6KjGA8D8vqtagIVALEIq3i/379jwdza+iFvyOom5LZx Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 148 Lines: 4 Gordon - - why wait?! All you have to do is to say something provocative!!! It will have your DESIRED result, and then we will watch you.===Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <737-3F959C14-38@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <14154-3F93EEBB-73@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhR1hM7x9iZQIXjCyBRruYOGGM3vvAIUMkSKZvyJZ33dogiOd/bp9PTnM98= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 180 Lines: 4 Jeanette - the little nitro tablets are a life-saver at times; however, they also give me a wild headache, so I do not take them anymore. Ahhh, the pleasures of old age!!===Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <735-3F959CEA-250@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQnOraL6ZUeIHdpo1uMPLiMwKtdiQIVAMq8eG0Ym4zKf+OxuZCbClmzv4sg Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 76 Lines: 3 jingles - you are hallucinating! Nicholas Cage - - yeah, right!!!!!! Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <737-3F959D44-39@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f9474f5.2983510@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAu7aVm6e4+0HYRo4DyW1ZwlfXg1UCFA14c7nqUO1HO6Moa0RRGHgBf5uy Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 60 Lines: 4 "Do not go gently into that good night." Dylan Thomas Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <736-3F959FDC-100@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRlSt7/dfcbyx0kzqtt7fIvIO935QIUPhx0nkICPGXzQKkMPpFmAk3bFMc= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 289 Lines: 6 That speech, which Bush made, about "you are either with us or against us" - to me, at least, was most definitely not unacceptable as someone wrote. It was excellent; a statement of resolve against terrorism, in the hope of soliciting others to act also to root out the terrorists. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <735-3F95A235-252@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <5c94pvc523o1lflcpgadneeqpqptdmojm8@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAlu3wWloxQubZ6x9m0JM5cCQezgYCFQCO5zePH2tYX8m+KbwJLScCWyfQ1A== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 515 Lines: 10 Eugene - I must have a severe identity crisis - now I am Oilly (!!) - as if Olly is not bad enough - and that is not my real name. Gordon and I have a love/hate relationship; I don't know what happened to the first part?!! Who cares!! There are bigger things to worry about. See you later - - Olly (no oil - the oil is all in Iraq!!!!!!!) P.S. what is the latest on Toni Blair's condition?? I respect the man; he is also a wonderful speaker (certainly compared with our President); hope he will remain healthy. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: "...Health Insurance Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <735-3F95A62D-254@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRcgEh0D8ZB01Cqe2Y0Ohif3FiUfwIUObS28KKqpOL7jFSuu88KRkcsYEI= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 578 Lines: 10 Joan - not mine. You suggested that insurance companies already supervise who gets what health reimbursements, and treatments. Yes, the HMO's do, you are correct. I do not have an HMO; I have Medicare, and, what ever is rejected by Medicare, is picked up by my supplemenal Medex (BCBS) insurance. Thus, literally everything is covered, and I have free choices. However, it is dreadfully expensive, and therefore, is not the solution for the many who could not afford it. I can just about barely afford it.It is shameful not to have a workable system for everyone.====Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:37 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:44:38 +0100 Message-ID: References: <736-3F959FDC-100@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066776860 24543 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 22:54:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:54:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 566 Lines: 14 Olly Mensch wrote >That speech, which Bush made, about "you are either with us or against >us" - to me, at least, was most definitely not unacceptable as someone >wrote. It was excellent; a statement of resolve against terrorism, in >the hope of soliciting others to act also to root out the terrorists. >Olly > We went out for a meal with friends this evening, a very pleasant conversation, plenty of laughs. It started very cold today, and wet, but as the low cloud crept across the sky the temperature eased upwards...... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <736-3F95A953-105@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAuaEc/gCy72SPmYO8vQfqtblnfjQCFQC0D0qcw/Btzlxbf9eOj29gu/xS+w== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 666 Lines: 12 bob - I read the story in the paper about these Muslim women coming here to have their babies, and then return. It raises my hackles - yes, they DO get free care. And free (emergency) care is available to all poor people - but it is limited and uneven. The system desperately needs some changes. I have never been able to find a copy or description of the system which Hillary Clinton had been trying to set up at the time. Regardless of how one feels about Hillary (ugh!!) but I heard it was a very comprehensive, all-inclusive (and probably prohibitively expensive) plan, but most felt it was unwieldy and not workable. But I never heard any details. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:47:42 +0100 Message-ID: References: <735-3F959B08-249@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066776863 24543 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 22:54:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:54:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 266 Lines: 9 Olly Mensch wrote >Gordon - - why wait?! All you have to do is to say something >provocative!!! It will have your DESIRED result, and then we will watch >you.===Olly > Au contraire, ma cher.... What's the weather like where you are? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:53:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066776865 24543 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 22:54:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:54:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 608 Lines: 24 Yoj wrote >"Gordon" wrote >> >> Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature >was >> down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over >and >> we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches >and >> Great tits back to my garden feeders. >> -- >> Gordon >> (Smiling at Jeanette) > >I like Plan B. :-) > Too bad we can't average out our weather. It is >supposed to be about 38C here today. > Lemme see now.... 38 + 10 = 48. 48/2 = 24°C Yes - I'd settle for that, pretty please..... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:00:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066776867 24543 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 22:54:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:54:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 524 Lines: 15 jingles wrote > >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when you move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black out' I wonder? No? Oh well I'm unique then! I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, with unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and wheat.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:05:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066776868 24543 194.222.103.116 (21 Oct 2003 22:54:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:54:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1595 Lines: 37 Sylvia M. wrote > >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:bSa+v6BSOyk$EwGs@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> Jeanette S. wrote >> >Hi to all you out there! I've stopped delving into >> >the newsgroups with my primary email addy and have started using this >> >hotmail one. The phoney MSN stuff stopped coming to my primary address, >> >so decided to use this one to "fool" any web crawlers MSN installed a >> >couple of new filters which seem to be working okay so far. I've >> >received 4 of the phoney messages in this new address, right where I >> >want to keep them. How are you other webbies handling the problem? >> >Jeanette >> > >> I use Mailwasher to filter and delete mail on the server, but the amount >> of junk mail is escalating again, though only a few are 'Microsoft' >> virus emails. I received, or rather deleted, in excess of 250 junk >> emails today. :-( >> -- >> Gordon > >Thanks for the Mailwasher info. I went there and downloaded it. I think >I'll like it. I just love sending it back to the Microsoft-not fools. > >Sylvia > Fair enough, but I just gave up on bouncing and now just delete them, although the numbers have increased since I did that. I switched to bouncing again today as an experiment, but I get an awful lot of them undeliverable because "the addressee does not have a Yahoo account". Probably because it was a spammer who set up an account, spewed out the rubbish, then abandoned it or was kicked off. :-( ISPs like Yahoo and Hotmail have a lot to answer for..... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102200171376656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:17:13 +0100 Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Re: And here's another on References: <736-3F959FDC-100@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Trace: 1066778703 master.news.zetnet.net 190 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 878 Lines: 24 The message from Gordon contains these words: > Olly Mensch wrote > >That speech, which Bush made, about "you are either with us or against > >us" - to me, at least, was most definitely not unacceptable as someone > >wrote. It was excellent; a statement of resolve against terrorism, in > >the hope of soliciting others to act also to root out the terrorists. > >Olly > > > > We went out for a meal with friends this evening, a very pleasant > conversation, plenty of laughs. > It started very cold today, and wet, but as the low cloud crept across > the sky the temperature eased upwards...... I had to scrape the ice off my windscreen this morning, before I set off for work.....first time this year! But hasn't it been a marvellous summer! -- AnneJ ICQ #:- 119531282 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:50:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.19 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066780217 32.103.153.19 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:50:17 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:50:17 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 841 Lines: 28 "Gordon" wrote in message news:pK8yJDBNyal$EwIz@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > jingles wrote > > > >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... > > I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when you > move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black out' > I wonder? > > No? Oh well I'm unique then! > I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, with > unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and > wheat.... > -- > Gordon I know a woman who wears what looks like a neck brace because of a similar problem. Actually, she has several, in different colors, so she can coordinate them with what she is wearing. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <4Fjlb.188521$0v4.14562284@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:52:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.19 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066780352 32.103.153.19 (Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:52:32 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:52:32 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 862 Lines: 36 "Gordon" wrote in message news:qaLy9qAQral$EwoE@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > >"Gordon" wrote > >> > >> Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature > >was > >> down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over > >and > >> we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches > >and > >> Great tits back to my garden feeders. > >> -- > >> Gordon > >> (Smiling at Jeanette) > > > >I like Plan B. > :-) > > Too bad we can't average out our weather. It is > >supposed to be about 38C here today. > > > Lemme see now.... 38 + 10 = 48. 48/2 = 24°C > > Yes - I'd settle for that, pretty please..... > -- > Gordon So would I! Luckily I finally bit the bullet and had air conditioning installed a couple of years ago. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:15:33 +0100 Message-ID: <$MWXoRAlwcl$EwrJ@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066805438 13540 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 06:50:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:50:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 954 Lines: 31 Yoj wrote >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:pK8yJDBNyal$EwIz@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> jingles wrote >> > >> >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >> >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... >> >> I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when >you >> move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black >out' >> I wonder? >> >> No? Oh well I'm unique then! >> I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, >with >> unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and >> wheat.... >> -- >> Gordon > >I know a woman who wears what looks like a neck brace because of a >similar problem. Actually, she has several, in different colors, so she >can coordinate them with what she is wearing. > >Joy > Hides the old turkey-neck also, I bet! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.122.223.243 X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1066781980 14102 213.122.223.243 (22 Oct 2003 00:19:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 978 Lines: 25 > An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the > question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido > Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a > challenge!!!!!!!!Olly > Dear Olly, Pavarotti has perfect pitch and is a pleasure to listen to, especially in belle canto roles such as those written by Donizetti, his top Cs are so pure. Domingo on the other hand started his adult life as a baritone and was encouraged to sing tenor parts, so now his voice is more suited to the heavier operatic roles of Verdi and Wagner although both men are equally excellent in Puccini parts. Pavarotti does a lot of recital work whereas Domingo sings more operatic work and is also an excellent actor, Pavarotti is very wooden in his operatic roles. Both men are divine to listen to but Domingo has the bonus advantage of being a pleasure to watch also. Placido gets my vote. Enough dialogue, lets all sing. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:25:06 GMT Message-ID: <3f95ce07.5197078@news.individual.net> References: <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> <735-3F959CEA-250@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066782308 30053929 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 339 Lines: 11 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:54:02 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >jingles - you are hallucinating! Nicholas Cage - - yeah, right!!!!!! >Olly I may be getting old, but I have a hearing aid and a good pair of spectacles....and believe me (or don't just as you choose) he was a Nicholas Cage lookalike.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:32:31 GMT Message-ID: <3f95ceae.5364161@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066782753 30005791 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1389 Lines: 38 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:00:45 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >> >>Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >>turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... > >I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when you >move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black out' >I wonder? > >No? Oh well I'm unique then! >I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, with >unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and >wheat.... >-- >Gordon I have arthritis in the neck and the discs have worn away....the one in the shoulder girdle causes the most problems....but I never tilt my head backwards or I would black out.... Neurologist says they won't operate unless I am paralysed or writing in agony, because it is too dangerous.....Ain't life grand? Got a joke for you Gordon....heard it on TV this morning. Annie an 80 year old lady in a nursing home woke up feeling very randy.....she wandered out into the corridor and found William a sprightly 85 year old coming out of his room. She put the hard word on him and they both went back inside.... They began to make love and suddenly she said "I have acute angina" "Mmm! " said William "your breasts are pretty good too...." Boom! Boom! jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-70-8.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1066782800 15411 81.131.70.8 (22 Oct 2003 00:33:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:33:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 855 Lines: 28 "Gordon" wrote in message news:H2d5W3AKBWl$EwvU@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Rod wrote > >Eugene A. Calame wrote in message news:<5bh9pv023739gk9brg > >1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com>... > >> > >> Well puke away. The day is young. > > > >thank you Eugene for your permission Your brand of Christiany shines > >throu. I guess you like to kill and approve of criminals Rod > > Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature was > down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over and > we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and > Great tits back to my garden feeders. > -- > Gordon > (Smiling at Jeanette) We haven't had any Finches but I notice that your garden isn't the only place for Great Tits... >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:38 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:33:59 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d043.5769663@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066782841 30005791 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1067 Lines: 36 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:50:17 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:pK8yJDBNyal$EwIz@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> jingles wrote >> > >> >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >> >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... >> >> I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when >you >> move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black >out' >> I wonder? >> >> No? Oh well I'm unique then! >> I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, >with >> unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and >> wheat.... >> -- >> Gordon > >I know a woman who wears what looks like a neck brace because of a >similar problem. Actually, she has several, in different colors, so she >can coordinate them with what she is wearing. > >Joy When necessary I settle for a check woollen scarf wrapped round once and knotted at the back....but only indoors jingles > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:35:09 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d099.5855014@news.individual.net> References: <3f9474f5.2983510@news.individual.net> <737-3F959D44-39@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066782911 30005791 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 249 Lines: 11 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:55:32 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >"Do not go gently into that good night." >Dylan Thomas >Olly I shall go out kicking and screaming......(Fancy being forced to miss your own Wake....) jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:41:52 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d168.6062412@news.individual.net> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066783314 30005791 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1234 Lines: 30 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:35:22 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Rod wrote >>Eugene A. Calame wrote in message news:<5bh9pv023739gk9brg >>1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com>... >>> >>> Well puke away. The day is young. >> >>thank you Eugene for your permission Your brand of Christiany shines >>throu. I guess you like to kill and approve of criminals Rod > >Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature was >down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over and >we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and >Great tits back to my garden feeders. >-- >Gordon >(Smiling at Jeanette) A coolish 12°C in Ballarat today, but the sun is brilliant and the sky as blue as it is possible to be. It rained all day yesterday so the flowers are dew drenched and gorgeous.....and the birds are twittering away on my front veranhad as they toss the seed out of the feeder all over the concrete.... The resident honey eater is busily ruffling the branches of the teatree and the blackbird with the broken tail is getting ready to hassle the sparrows. God's in his heaven and all's right with my world.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:43:21 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d29c.6370645@news.individual.net> References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200949.10897e33@posting.google.com> <3f948c6a.8989775@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066783402 30005791 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 258 Lines: 17 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:00:49 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >> >>Boudicea......now there was a real woman.... >> >>jingles >> >Nice set of wheels, too....... Love it! jingles >-- >Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:48:32 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d3a3.6633732@news.individual.net> References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <+SI3PGCaUyk$EwCP@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066783714 30005791 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1285 Lines: 39 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:38:33 +0100, Gordon wrote: >~~seadancer~~ wrote >>"Gordon" wrote >>> >~~seadancer~~ wrote >>> >>Hi Jeanette, >>> >>I learned a long time ago never to put my primary >>> >>email addy out on a newsgroup. >>> >>As you can see, I use a Yahoo addy instead. >>> >>My Yahoo addy gets quite a bit of spam, but at >>> >>least Yahoo dumps it all into a Bulk Folder for me >>> >>and I can delete all of it with one click. >>> >>It just takes constant monitoring if you don't wan't >>> >>the Yahoo mailbox to fill up to max and reject >>> >>incoming personal e-mail. >>> > >>> >My demon mailbox never 'fills up' to the extent that it rejects mail. >>> >I read and 'file' genuine emails, and have some from more than two years >>> >ago! >>> >>> And today my mail server is dead! Nothing on the server for me, and >>> none of my emails are being sent out. HELP! >>> Gordon >> >>At least you don't receive spam that way. >>Look on the bright side. >>---Sea >> >I'm getting over 250 a day spam. >-- >Gordon Must be from all those women you have loved and left.... I had a great deal for a while, but now it has tapered down to just a few. jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:51:07 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d452.6808876@news.individual.net> References: <20858-3F95455B-86@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066783869 30005791 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 414 Lines: 15 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:40:27 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Gordon wrote: "Plan A was ignoring contentious posts. >I think it's time for Plan B. >Watch me. =A0 " >********************************* >I'll be watching with bated/baited breath! Which is it - bated or >baited? 8-) Jeanette Did we ever get that one sorted out? jingles - whose short tem memory is 'iffy' > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:52:39 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d4c3.6921972@news.individual.net> References: <2RHF$NAg+Rl$Ew7A@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <20857-3F9545F3-252@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066783960 30005791 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 530 Lines: 17 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:30:04 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Jeanette S. wrote >>Tocie wrote: Sure you would. What do you think is Gordon's Plan B? Toci >>Gordon wrote: "Clue: I have already used it once and it worked." >>*********************************** >>A good detective I am not! Jeanette >> >OK, wait until someone else gets unpleasant or insulting about politics >and read my response. It's mindless, really..... >-- >Gordon Join the Club mate.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:54:28 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d50f.6997875@news.individual.net> References: <735-3F959B08-249@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066784070 30005791 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 467 Lines: 18 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:47:42 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Olly Mensch wrote >>Gordon - - why wait?! All you have to do is to say something >>provocative!!! It will have your DESIRED result, and then we will watch >>you.===Olly >> >Au contraire, ma cher.... >What's the weather like where you are? >-- >Gordon Ah Morticia.....I love it when you speak French...(grabbing hand and salivating all over it....) jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:57:20 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3f95d168.6062412@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-50-253.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1066784240 20983 81.131.50.253 (22 Oct 2003 00:57:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:57:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 956 Lines: 28 > > > >Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature was > >down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over and > >we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and > >Great tits back to my garden feeders. > >-- > >Gordon > >(Smiling at Jeanette) > A coolish 12°C in Ballarat today, but the sun is brilliant and the > sky as blue as it is possible to be. It rained all day yesterday so > the flowers are dew drenched and gorgeous.....and the birds are > twittering away on my front veranhad as they toss the seed out of the > feeder all over the concrete.... The resident honey eater is busily > ruffling the branches of the teatree and the blackbird with the broken > tail is getting ready to hassle the sparrows. God's in his heaven > and all's right with my world.... > > jingles Not too bad here either, 2am & 1c. Chilly for June. Take that which way..... >^..^< ***** > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-50-253.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1066784578 21437 81.131.50.253 (22 Oct 2003 01:02:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:02:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1112 Lines: 35 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net... > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:28:51 +0100, Aries wrote: > > >Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 Oct > >2003 11:17:10 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: > > > >> Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > >> turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but > >> as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad > >> to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... > >> So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away > >> we went... > > > >Nicholas Cage eh! Drool :) Glad to hear your prob wasn't that serious:) > > > >-- > >val at copelands.co.uk > >http://copelands.co.uk/val > > Just imagine sitting there in your warm winter nighty peering through > your night cream into the face of Nicholas Cage..... > He did gaze back with sympathy though..... > > jingles Glad you are ok jingles, bet you only went for the food Take care. >^..^< ***** > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:04:42 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066784684 30616773 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2089 Lines: 40 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:42:16 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >Jeanette - - there is a difference between imposing (sometimes in an >insulting manner) one's views upon others, or discussing various points >of view.Many are, indeed, interested in politics and world affairs, and >they should, ideally lead to good discussions. If only people will >remain civil. I noticed that,currently, there was a dicssion about >religion - -well, nothing could possibly be more delicate and >controversial than that!! Why don't you let those who do feel insulted >plead their own case, and solve their dilemma, and let the chips fall >where they may!!!!!! >I, for one, much prefer exchanges about world affairs, politics, yes, >religion , if need be, cultural questions,etc.etc. - than what chores we >are planning to do, or how we spent the day yesterday,etc.etc. >Although, occasionally, I, too, enjoy some little reverie, either from >the past, or from personal experience - as long as that does not become >a "chronic" condition!! >An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the >question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido >Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a >challenge!!!!!!!!Olly Each to his own as the old lady said when she kissed the cow.... I for one prefer the lighter posts of the newsgroup. World politics do interest me....but not the arguments that go with the topic. What I do hate to see is people who like the lighter side of this newsgroup leaving because they feel overwhelmed by the heavier topics. I believe it behoves us to try and maintain a balance. As for your choice of tenor, I agree that Pavarotti is excellent, Domingo happens to be just a trifle better but if you don't break my Domingo CDs, I will return the courtesy and leave your Pavarotti CDs intact. jingles - who is now going to take a coffee break, and maybe throw her husband on the floor and tear off his clothes....( note I said maybe...) or perhaps I should settle for a cream biscuit.... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jim Vatunz Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:04:47 +1000 Message-ID: References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3f95d168.6062412@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.173.20.180 X-Trace: 1066784687 freenews.iinet.net.au 23596 203.173.20.180 Status: O Content-Length: 1508 Lines: 39 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:41:52 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:35:22 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>Rod wrote >>>Eugene A. Calame wrote in message news:<5bh9pv023739gk9brg >>>1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com>... >>>> >>>> Well puke away. The day is young. >>> >>>thank you Eugene for your permission Your brand of Christiany shines >>>throu. I guess you like to kill and approve of criminals Rod >> >>Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature was >>down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over and >>we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and >>Great tits back to my garden feeders. >>-- >>Gordon >>(Smiling at Jeanette) >A coolish 12°C in Ballarat today, but the sun is brilliant and the >sky as blue as it is possible to be. It rained all day yesterday so >the flowers are dew drenched and gorgeous.....and the birds are >twittering away on my front veranhad as they toss the seed out of the >feeder all over the concrete.... The resident honey eater is busily >ruffling the branches of the teatree and the blackbird with the broken >tail is getting ready to hassle the sparrows. God's in his heaven >and all's right with my world.... > >jingles golly. you can see what it's like at my place and it's a pleasant 31° to go with it. For the latest weather where i am click http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:06:37 GMT Message-ID: <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066784799 30616773 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1153 Lines: 33 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > > > > >> An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the >> question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido >> Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a >> challenge!!!!!!!!Olly >> >Dear Olly, Pavarotti has perfect pitch and is a pleasure to >listen to, especially in belle canto roles such as those written >by Donizetti, his top Cs are so pure. Domingo on the other >hand started his adult life as a baritone and was encouraged >to sing tenor parts, so now his voice is more suited to the heavier operatic >roles of Verdi and Wagner although both men are equally excellent in Puccini >parts. Pavarotti does a lot of recital work whereas Domingo sings more >operatic work and is also an excellent actor, Pavarotti is very wooden in >his operatic roles. Both men are divine to listen to but Domingo >has the bonus advantage of being a pleasure to watch also. >Placido gets my vote. Enough dialogue, lets all sing. > >>^..^< >***** After you dear lady....."O sole mio..." jingles > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-49-5.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1066786172 5694 81.131.49.5 (22 Oct 2003 01:29:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:29:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1154 Lines: 32 "Gordon" wrote in message news:pK8yJDBNyal$EwIz@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > jingles wrote > > > >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... > > I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when you > move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black out' > I wonder? > > No? Oh well I'm unique then! > I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, with > unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and > wheat.... > -- > Gordon When you say 'black out' does everything start to wobble so that you feel that you are going to fall over? I have a cervical spondylosis and a side effect of that is vertebro-basilar insufficiency. It's caused when the arteries to the base of the brain are obstructed and the flow of blood is impeded. Unfortunately there is not a damn thing that can be done about it except the old adage of 'learning to live with it'. You'll just need to be careful not to jerk your head around quickly. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:39 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-49-5.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1066786401 6003 81.131.49.5 (22 Oct 2003 01:33:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:33:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1404 Lines: 47 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net... > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the > >> question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido > >> Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a > >> challenge!!!!!!!!Olly > >> > >Dear Olly, Pavarotti has perfect pitch and is a pleasure to > >listen to, especially in belle canto roles such as those written > >by Donizetti, his top Cs are so pure. Domingo on the other > >hand started his adult life as a baritone and was encouraged > >to sing tenor parts, so now his voice is more suited to the heavier operatic > >roles of Verdi and Wagner although both men are equally excellent in Puccini > >parts. Pavarotti does a lot of recital work whereas Domingo sings more > >operatic work and is also an excellent actor, Pavarotti is very wooden in > >his operatic roles. Both men are divine to listen to but Domingo > >has the bonus advantage of being a pleasure to watch also. > >Placido gets my vote. Enough dialogue, lets all sing. > > > >>^..^< > >***** > > After you dear lady....."O sole mio..." > > jingles ooooooh are you not posh, didn't 'one cornetto' reach your shore. >^..^< ***** > > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-49-5.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1066786549 23977 81.131.49.5 (22 Oct 2003 01:35:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:35:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 2350 Lines: 49 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net... > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:42:16 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly > Mensch) wrote: > > >Jeanette - - there is a difference between imposing (sometimes in an > >insulting manner) one's views upon others, or discussing various points > >of view.Many are, indeed, interested in politics and world affairs, and > >they should, ideally lead to good discussions. If only people will > >remain civil. I noticed that,currently, there was a dicssion about > >religion - -well, nothing could possibly be more delicate and > >controversial than that!! Why don't you let those who do feel insulted > >plead their own case, and solve their dilemma, and let the chips fall > >where they may!!!!!! > >I, for one, much prefer exchanges about world affairs, politics, yes, > >religion , if need be, cultural questions,etc.etc. - than what chores we > >are planning to do, or how we spent the day yesterday,etc.etc. > >Although, occasionally, I, too, enjoy some little reverie, either from > >the past, or from personal experience - as long as that does not become > >a "chronic" condition!! > >An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the > >question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido > >Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a > >challenge!!!!!!!!Olly > > Each to his own as the old lady said when she kissed the cow.... > > I for one prefer the lighter posts of the newsgroup. World politics > do interest me....but not the arguments that go with the topic. > What I do hate to see is people who like the lighter side of this > newsgroup leaving because they feel overwhelmed by the heavier > topics. I believe it behoves us to try and maintain a balance. > As for your choice of tenor, I agree that Pavarotti is excellent, > Domingo happens to be just a trifle better but if you don't > break my Domingo CDs, I will return the courtesy and leave your > Pavarotti CDs intact. > > jingles - who is now going to take a coffee break, and maybe throw her > husband on the floor and tear off his clothes....( note I said > maybe...) or perhaps I should settle for a cream biscuit.... > > To dunk or not to dunk, ( You see, I knew which one you would choose) >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-49-5.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1066787009 6787 81.131.49.5 (22 Oct 2003 01:43:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:43:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1273 Lines: 42 "Yoj" wrote in message news:ZCjlb.188516$0v4.14563420@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > "Gordon" wrote in message > news:pK8yJDBNyal$EwIz@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > > jingles wrote > > > > > >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > > >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... > > > > I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when > you > > move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black > out' > > I wonder? > > > > No? Oh well I'm unique then! > > I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, > with > > unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and > > wheat.... > > -- > > Gordon > > I know a woman who wears what looks like a neck brace because of a > similar problem. Actually, she has several, in different colors, so she > can coordinate them with what she is wearing. > > Joy I make different coloured covers to slip over my brace to match outfits. They blend in so well that in the warm weather when the brace is obvious I am asked what have I done to my neck? I was prescibed my first one in 1976! My disguise must work. >^..^< ***** > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <738-3F95E30F-19@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f95ce07.5197078@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAjEgf0t2cd95/vTB4EkTQBKOWOE4CFEq7ys3w95GvxfZibO0q5yGfWAs4 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 108 Lines: 5 jingles==reveries!!!! I am even beyond reveries!! However, every night, I go to bed with Pavarotti!! Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <736-3F95E3C4-131@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f95d099.5855014@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ7lR5O3WtIMJTtmFiSuNcdU5k4MAIUAKd9swIPIaJV5FRQQ+RcSYUHdIM= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 82 Lines: 4 Jingles - - I won't miss my wake - unlike you, I am being cremated. (ugh!!) Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <735-3F95E547-309@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRXUu624aKEejqtGWTgzHZNQuP4ugIUSUCwagYLicGK80vd0R4jcxrZQp0= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 157 Lines: 4 Gordon - can't deal with your suggested topic, discussing the weather. Too provocative -I am too old for such blood-curdling topics!!!! Try again!!===Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <737-3F95E6EF-51@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAjU/r/wNpDf4UDA2BBWFwP3W7vWgCFHnWIEPKxhwn+l+LuUSnMUSzQ5kv Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 638 Lines: 11 Jan--I agree with everything you posted about Pavarotti and Domingo. Only my favorite - by far - is Pavarotti. There is a certain amazing quality to his voice, and, it seems to me that Domingo, though having a lovely voice, but when he hits the high notes, they seem to sound tinny, and often nasal. Anyway - I have a CD player right on my headboard. At night, I slip in one of Pavarotti's - and listen - and think I am in heaven. I also have some where he sings with Joan Sutherland - who,by the way , is my favorite female soprano. Life could not be better, when listening to that kind of music!!! Invariably I all asleep!!! Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <735-3F95E9EF-314@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAuh94kFeqhlJWTFRWptGhYErkvpUCFQDGYcz1nHqIPIy0Ll36gGCgMORPYQ== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 842 Lines: 16 Jingles - - while you are on the floor with your husband, I am trashing your Domingo CD's . Watch out!! On a different note - to respond to your comments - I, too, enjoy the give and take of some lighthearted exchanges, but not as a permanent peoccupation. I enjoy discussions about interesting topics, be that politics, art, social issues, and all he many things which have always been of interest. Yet - it seems to be difficult to have a serious but civilized exchange of different views, wihout the rancor that usually develops, especially in politics. Yet, the world is so interesting - and dangerous - these days - and always has been - that it seems hard to escape voicing one's concerns and views, and hoping for a discussion without too much bias. Well, I shall try to "stifle". God knows what that will do to my psyche!!! Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:08:23 GMT Message-ID: <3f95f492.15065574@news.individual.net> References: <3f95ce07.5197078@news.individual.net> <738-3F95E30F-19@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066792105 31016268 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 247 Lines: 13 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:53:19 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >jingles==reveries!!!! >I am even beyond reveries!! However, every night, I go to bed with >Pavarotti!! >Olly I guess you have a king size bed jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:09:24 GMT Message-ID: <3f95f4c3.15114821@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066792165 31016268 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1298 Lines: 43 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:02:58 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net... >> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:28:51 +0100, Aries wrote: >> >> >Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 Oct >> >2003 11:17:10 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: >> > >> >> Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >> >> turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but >> >> as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad >> >> to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... >> >> So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away >> >> we went... >> > >> >Nicholas Cage eh! Drool :) Glad to hear your prob wasn't that serious:) >> > >> >-- >> >val at copelands.co.uk >> >http://copelands.co.uk/val >> >> Just imagine sitting there in your warm winter nighty peering through >> your night cream into the face of Nicholas Cage..... >> He did gaze back with sympathy though..... >> >> jingles > >Glad you are ok jingles, bet you only went > for the food Take care. > >>^..^< >***** And the wine jingles (who missed you....) >> > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:14:32 GMT Message-ID: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066792473 31016268 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1969 Lines: 53 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:43:29 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"Yoj" wrote in message >news:ZCjlb.188516$0v4.14563420@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> "Gordon" wrote in message >> news:pK8yJDBNyal$EwIz@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> > jingles wrote >> > > >> > >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >> > >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... >> > >> > I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when >> you >> > move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black >> out' >> > I wonder? >> > >> > No? Oh well I'm unique then! >> > I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, >> with >> > unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and >> > wheat.... >> > -- >> > Gordon >> >> I know a woman who wears what looks like a neck brace because of a >> similar problem. Actually, she has several, in different colors, so she >> can coordinate them with what she is wearing. >> >> Joy > >I make different coloured covers to slip over my brace to >match outfits. They blend in so well that in the warm weather >when the brace is obvious I am asked what have I done to my neck? I was >prescibed my first one in 1976! My disguise >must work. > >>^..^< It would have been about that time , or a bit earlier,that a specialist prescribed one for me. I wore it for a year and then went to a very knowledgeable physio who worked in a hospital. I was there for two weeks and underwent treatment twice a day....very painful at times I must add. But I came out without the brace and with a bit of help from the physio kept reasonably well until the last couple of years or so. The makeshift brace was suggested to me by a physio to use when a particular activity caused pain. For the most part it works quite well. jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:17:26 GMT Message-ID: <3f95f678.15551677@news.individual.net> References: <3f95d099.5855014@news.individual.net> <736-3F95E3C4-131@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066792647 31016268 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 300 Lines: 13 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:56:20 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >Jingles - - I won't miss my wake - unlike you, I am being cremated. >(ugh!!) >Olly Where did you get the idea I wasn't being cremated? I still expect my passing to be celebrated in the usual manner..... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net> <3f95f4c3.15114821@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-80-188.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1066792699 14862 81.131.80.188 (22 Oct 2003 03:18:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:18:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1531 Lines: 57 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f95f4c3.15114821@news.individual.net... > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:02:58 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" > wrote: > > > > >"jingles" wrote in message > >news:3f94747f.2865820@news.individual.net... > >> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:28:51 +0100, Aries wrote: > >> > >> >Floating through the mists of time and space in cyberspace on Mon, 20 Oct > >> >2003 11:17:10 GMT, Aries heard jingles whisper: > >> > > >> >> Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > >> >> turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem....but > >> >> as the ambulance man (who looked exactly like Nicholas Cage I am glad > >> >> to say) said....we can't ignore the remotest possibility.... > >> >> So I hitched up mi nighty and climbed onto the trolley......and away > >> >> we went... > >> > > >> >Nicholas Cage eh! Drool :) Glad to hear your prob wasn't that serious:) > >> > > >> >-- > >> >val at copelands.co.uk > >> >http://copelands.co.uk/val > >> > >> Just imagine sitting there in your warm winter nighty peering through > >> your night cream into the face of Nicholas Cage..... > >> He did gaze back with sympathy though..... > >> > >> jingles > > > >Glad you are ok jingles, bet you only went > > for the food Take care. > > > >>^..^< > >***** > > And the wine > > jingles (who missed you....) thank you, that's nice to know. >^..^< ***** > >> > > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:40 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:20:59 GMT Message-ID: <3f95f76f.15799090@news.individual.net> References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066792860 31016268 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1593 Lines: 55 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:33:21 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net... >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" >> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over >the >> >> question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido >> >> Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a >> >> challenge!!!!!!!!Olly >> >> >> >Dear Olly, Pavarotti has perfect pitch and is a pleasure to >> >listen to, especially in belle canto roles such as those written >> >by Donizetti, his top Cs are so pure. Domingo on the other >> >hand started his adult life as a baritone and was encouraged >> >to sing tenor parts, so now his voice is more suited to the heavier >operatic >> >roles of Verdi and Wagner although both men are equally excellent in >Puccini >> >parts. Pavarotti does a lot of recital work whereas Domingo sings more >> >operatic work and is also an excellent actor, Pavarotti is very wooden in >> >his operatic roles. Both men are divine to listen to but Domingo >> >has the bonus advantage of being a pleasure to watch also. >> >Placido gets my vote. Enough dialogue, lets all sing. >> > >> >>^..^< >> >***** >> >> After you dear lady....."O sole mio..." >> >> jingles > >ooooooh are you not posh, didn't 'one cornetto' reach your >shore. > >>^..^< Ooops sorry.....too highbrow? jingles >***** >> > >> > >> > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:23:01 GMT Message-ID: <3f95f800.15943573@news.individual.net> References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066792983 31016268 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2534 Lines: 57 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:35:49 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net... >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:42:16 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly >> Mensch) wrote: >> >> >Jeanette - - there is a difference between imposing (sometimes in an >> >insulting manner) one's views upon others, or discussing various points >> >of view.Many are, indeed, interested in politics and world affairs, and >> >they should, ideally lead to good discussions. If only people will >> >remain civil. I noticed that,currently, there was a dicssion about >> >religion - -well, nothing could possibly be more delicate and >> >controversial than that!! Why don't you let those who do feel insulted >> >plead their own case, and solve their dilemma, and let the chips fall >> >where they may!!!!!! >> >I, for one, much prefer exchanges about world affairs, politics, yes, >> >religion , if need be, cultural questions,etc.etc. - than what chores we >> >are planning to do, or how we spent the day yesterday,etc.etc. >> >Although, occasionally, I, too, enjoy some little reverie, either from >> >the past, or from personal experience - as long as that does not become >> >a "chronic" condition!! >> >An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the >> >question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido >> >Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a >> >challenge!!!!!!!!Olly >> >> Each to his own as the old lady said when she kissed the cow.... >> >> I for one prefer the lighter posts of the newsgroup. World politics >> do interest me....but not the arguments that go with the topic. >> What I do hate to see is people who like the lighter side of this >> newsgroup leaving because they feel overwhelmed by the heavier >> topics. I believe it behoves us to try and maintain a balance. >> As for your choice of tenor, I agree that Pavarotti is excellent, >> Domingo happens to be just a trifle better but if you don't >> break my Domingo CDs, I will return the courtesy and leave your >> Pavarotti CDs intact. >> >> jingles - who is now going to take a coffee break, and maybe throw her >> husband on the floor and tear off his clothes....( note I said >> maybe...) or perhaps I should settle for a cream biscuit.... >> >> To dunk or not to dunk, ( You see, I knew which one >you would choose) > >>^..^< >***** So did my husband jingles > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:30:55 GMT Message-ID: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> References: <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> <735-3F95E9EF-314@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066793456 30799910 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1686 Lines: 39 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:22:39 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >Jingles - - while you are on the floor with your husband, I am trashing >your Domingo CD's . Watch out!! >On a different note - to respond to your comments - I, too, enjoy the >give and take of some lighthearted exchanges, but not as a permanent >peoccupation. I enjoy discussions about interesting topics, be that >politics, art, social issues, and all he many things which have always >been of interest. >Yet - it seems to be difficult to have a serious but civilized exchange >of different views, wihout the rancor that usually develops, especially >in politics. Yet, the world is so interesting - and dangerous - these >days - and always has been - that it seems hard to escape voicing one's >concerns and views, and hoping for a discussion without too much bias. >Well, I shall try to "stifle". God knows what that will do to my >psyche!!! >Olly I find that where such serious topics are concerned 'face to face' discussions are better. There is not the same temptation to 'blow up' as there is on a newsgroup - there is not the same anonymity to hide behind... Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on Iraq fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking to each other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to blows.... My daughter is married to an American, my son is Australian. A second son walked out on the argument and told them both to 'drop dead'..... So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... jingles - who now has to carry the can. > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:32:51 GMT Message-ID: <3f95fa3a.16513801@news.individual.net> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066793572 30799910 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1038 Lines: 36 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:33:20 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:H2d5W3AKBWl$EwvU@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> Rod wrote >> >Eugene A. Calame wrote in message >news:<5bh9pv023739gk9brg >> >1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com>... >> >> >> >> Well puke away. The day is young. >> > >> >thank you Eugene for your permission Your brand of Christiany shines >> >throu. I guess you like to kill and approve of criminals Rod >> >> Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature was >> down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over and >> we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and >> Great tits back to my garden feeders. >> -- >> Gordon >> (Smiling at Jeanette) > >We haven't had any Finches but I notice that your garden >isn't the only place for Great Tits... > >>^..^< >***** Modesty causes me to withhold comment jingles > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <737-3F95E6EF-51@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-43-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1066793869 29618 81.131.43.30 (22 Oct 2003 03:37:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:37:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1080 Lines: 24 "Olly Mensch" wrote in message news:737-3F95E6EF-51@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Jan--I agree with everything you posted about Pavarotti and Domingo. > Only my favorite - by far - is Pavarotti. There is a certain amazing > quality to his voice, and, it seems to me that Domingo, though having a > lovely voice, but when he hits the high notes, they seem to sound tinny, > and often nasal. Anyway - I have a CD player right on my headboard. At > night, I slip in one of Pavarotti's - and listen - and think I am in > heaven. I also have some where he sings with Joan Sutherland - who,by > the way , is my favorite female soprano. Life could not be better, when > listening to that kind of music!!! Invariably I all asleep!!! > Olly Those two did some marvelous recordings together. I said to Mike a while back that one of my favourite recordings was of Pavarotti, King of the High Cs. Knocks your socks off. It's one of Mike's also. >^..^< (who would listen to a recording of the phone ***** directory if sung by Domingo) > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: > <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-78-103.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1066794515 302 81.131.78.103 (22 Oct 2003 03:48:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:48:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 2347 Lines: 64 > >> > jingles wrote > >> > > > >> > >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > >> > >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... > >> > > >> > I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when > >> you > >> > move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black > >> out' > >> > I wonder? > >> > > >> > No? Oh well I'm unique then! > >> > I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, > >> with > >> > unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and > >> > wheat.... > >> > -- > >> > Gordon > >> > >> I know a woman who wears what looks like a neck brace because of a > >> similar problem. Actually, she has several, in different colors, so she > >> can coordinate them with what she is wearing. > >> > >> Joy > > > >I make different coloured covers to slip over my brace to > >match outfits. They blend in so well that in the warm weather > >when the brace is obvious I am asked what have I done to my neck? I was > >prescribed my first one in 1976! My disguise > >must work. > > > >>^..^< > > It would have been about that time , or a bit earlier,that a > specialist prescribed one for me. I wore it for a year and then > went to a very knowledgeable physio who worked in a hospital. I was > there for two weeks and underwent treatment twice a day....very > painful at times I must add. > But I came out without the brace and with a bit of help from the > physio kept reasonably well until the last couple of years or so. > The makeshift brace was suggested to me by a physio to use when a > particular activity caused pain. For the most part it works quite > well. > > jingles I was told to wear it all the time when I first got it and only take it off when sitting still. I even had one for night wear. Then I got to thinking that my muscles would go slack through lack of use so I only wear it on transport because travelling over bumps and hard braking is painful. I still do my neck exercises to keep the muscle tone and I do have a special neck roll for night. Sometimes I have to resort to my night collar. I have two & half discs missing so the vertebra are fused, I have the same prob with my lower back and a steel corset, but that's another story. :-) >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 21 Oct 2003 20:49:33 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.9.134.45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066794573 13769 127.0.0.1 (22 Oct 2003 03:49:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1143 Lines: 31 Gordon wrote in message news:... > Yoj wrote > >"Gordon" wrote > >> > >> Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature > was > >> down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over > and > >> we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches > and > >> Great tits back to my garden feeders. > >> -- > >> Gordon > >> (Smiling at Jeanette) > > > >I like Plan B. > :-) > > Too bad we can't average out our weather. It is > >supposed to be about 38C here today. Mindless remarks are nice but not in the context of real discussion. O.W. Homes once said "I find the great thing in this world is not so much where we stand, as in what direction we are moving: To reach the port of heaven, we must sail sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it, but we must sail, and not drift, nor lie at anchor." You can get all mindless blather you want from a telly. Rod > > > Lemme see now.... 38 + 10 = 48. 48/2 = 24°C > > Yes - I'd settle for that, pretty please..... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> <3f95f76f.15799090@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-23-177.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1066795329 4198 81.131.23.177 (22 Oct 2003 04:02:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:02:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 788 Lines: 39 . Both men are divine to listen to but Domingo > >> >has the bonus advantage of being a pleasure to watch also. > >> >Placido gets my vote. Enough dialogue, lets all sing. > >> > > >> >>^..^< > >> >***** > >> > >> After you dear lady....."O sole mio..." > >> > >> jingles > > > >ooooooh are you not posh, didn't 'one cornetto' reach your > >shore. > > > >>^..^< > > Ooops sorry.....too highbrow? > > jingles > >***** I don't know if you had the same advert for Wall's Corneto Ice-Cream but the words were 'Just one Corneto, Give it to me, Delicious ice-cream, From Italy' sung to O Sol Mio. So well known that when in Italy and a busker was playing that tune the whole group of us broke out into 'Just one Corneto'. Do you have Wall's. >^..^< ***** > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:54:51 GMT Message-ID: <3f960d2c.21364399@news.individual.net> References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> <3f95f76f.15799090@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066798493 30906179 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1087 Lines: 41 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:02:09 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >. Both men are divine to listen to but Domingo >> >> >has the bonus advantage of being a pleasure to watch also. >> >> >Placido gets my vote. Enough dialogue, lets all sing. >> >> > >> >> >>^..^< >> >> >***** >> >> >> >> After you dear lady....."O sole mio..." >> >> >> >> jingles >> > >> >ooooooh are you not posh, didn't 'one cornetto' reach your >> >shore. >> > >> >>^..^< >> >> Ooops sorry.....too highbrow? >> >> jingles >> >***** > >I don't know if you had the same advert for Wall's Corneto >Ice-Cream but the words were 'Just one Corneto, Give it >to me, Delicious ice-cream, From Italy' sung to O Sol Mio. >So well known that when in Italy and a busker was playing >that tune the whole group of us broke out into 'Just one >Corneto'. Do you have Wall's. > >>^..^< >***** I regret we don't have Walls....but I remember a piece of classical music being used for a toilet roll commercial and it was recognised as such by young son.....in a very loud voice jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:58:44 GMT Message-ID: <3f960e0b.21587707@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066798726 30906179 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2661 Lines: 75 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:48:35 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: >> >> > jingles wrote >> >> > > >> >> > >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >> >> > >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... >> >> > >> >> > I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when >> >> you >> >> > move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black >> >> out' >> >> > I wonder? >> >> > >> >> > No? Oh well I'm unique then! >> >> > I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, >> >> with >> >> > unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and >> >> > wheat.... >> >> > -- >> >> > Gordon >> >> >> >> I know a woman who wears what looks like a neck brace because of a >> >> similar problem. Actually, she has several, in different colors, so >she >> >> can coordinate them with what she is wearing. >> >> >> >> Joy >> > >> >I make different coloured covers to slip over my brace to >> >match outfits. They blend in so well that in the warm weather >> >when the brace is obvious I am asked what have I done to my neck? I was >> >prescribed my first one in 1976! My disguise >> >must work. >> > >> >>^..^< >> >> It would have been about that time , or a bit earlier,that a >> specialist prescribed one for me. I wore it for a year and then >> went to a very knowledgeable physio who worked in a hospital. I was >> there for two weeks and underwent treatment twice a day....very >> painful at times I must add. >> But I came out without the brace and with a bit of help from the >> physio kept reasonably well until the last couple of years or so. >> The makeshift brace was suggested to me by a physio to use when a >> particular activity caused pain. For the most part it works quite >> well. >> >> jingles > >I was told to wear it all the time when I first got it and only take it off >when sitting still. I even had one for night wear. >Then I got to thinking that my muscles would go slack through >lack of use so I only wear it on transport because travelling >over bumps and hard braking is painful. I still do my neck >exercises to keep the muscle tone and I do have a special neck >roll for night. Sometimes I have to resort to my night collar. >I have two & half discs missing so the vertebra are fused, >I have the same prob with my lower back and a steel corset, >but that's another story. :-) > >>^..^< Fusing the verterbrae is apparently not an option for me.... so I have to make the best of it....With a little help from my friends jingles >***** > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:02:30 GMT Message-ID: <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-022.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.22) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066798951 30906179 203.87.44.22 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1680 Lines: 50 On 21 Oct 2003 20:49:33 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >Gordon wrote in message news:... >> Yoj wrote >> >"Gordon" wrote >> >> >> >> Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature >> was >> >> down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over >> and >> >> we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches >> and >> >> Great tits back to my garden feeders. >> >> -- >> >> Gordon >> >> (Smiling at Jeanette) >> > >> >I like Plan B. >> :-) >> > Too bad we can't average out our weather. It is >> >supposed to be about 38C here today. >Mindless remarks are nice but not in the context of real discussion. >O.W. Homes once said "I find the great thing in this world is not so >much where we stand, as in what direction we are moving: To reach the >port of heaven, we must sail sometimes with the wind and sometimes >against it, but we must sail, and not drift, nor lie at anchor." You >can get all mindless blather you want from a telly. Rod And a Merry Christmas to you too Rod..... One of the mindless blatherers..... It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice part is that we can always move on if we don't like the location....... jingles > > >> > >> Lemme see now.... 38 + 10 = 48. 48/2 = 24°C >> >> Yes - I'd settle for that, pretty please..... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "The Pugmaster" Newsgroups: alt.sex.fetish.power-rangers.kimberly,alt.sex.sleeping.girls,alt.sixtyplus,alt.smokers.are.addicts,alt.sports.kitesurfing,alt.sports.soccer.chelseafc,alt.sports.soccer.middlesbrough,alt.sports.soccer.toon-army,alt.sports.spurs.prediction,alt.startrek.deep References: Subject: Re: Use internet pack which comes from the M$ Corporation Organization: Pugs For World Domination MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3981F.5BE8AFD0"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <2eolb.331$RB1.208665@news.abs.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:04:52 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.81.134.71 X-Complaints-To: support@infostations.com X-Trace: news.abs.net 1066799102 66.81.134.71 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:05:02 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:05:02 EDT Status: O Content-Length: 15803 Lines: 336 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3981F.5BE8AFD0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0025_01C3981F.5BE8AFD0" ------=_NextPart_001_0025_01C3981F.5BE8AFD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How dumb do you think we are, this is so a infection that has been going = around the 'net and usergroups for weeks. The Pugmaster "Jan Friedman" wrote in message = news:vHmdnfyy0KQnIQiiU-KYkA@broadviewnet.net... Microsoft All Products | Support | Search | = Microsoft.com Guide =20 Microsoft Home =20 =20 Microsoft User this is the latest version of security update, the "October = 2003, Cumulative Patch" update which fixes all known security = vulnerabilities affecting MS Internet Explorer, MS Outlook and MS = Outlook Express as well as three new vulnerabilities. Install now to = protect your computer from these vulnerabilities, the most serious of = which could allow an attacker to run executable on your system. 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Message-ID: References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.217.80.162 X-Trace: 1066799431 freenews.iinet.net.au 23599 203.217.80.162 Status: O Content-Length: 2769 Lines: 71 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:48:35 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: >> >> > jingles wrote >> >> > > >> >> > >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >> >> > >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... >> >> > >> >> > I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when >> >> you >> >> > move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black >> >> out' >> >> > I wonder? >> >> > >> >> > No? Oh well I'm unique then! >> >> > I have to keep my neck muffled up against cold winds or it seizes, >> >> with >> >> > unpleasant results. Hence the neck warmer filled with herbs and >> >> > wheat.... >> >> > -- >> >> > Gordon >> >> >> >> I know a woman who wears what looks like a neck brace because of a >> >> similar problem. Actually, she has several, in different colors, so >she >> >> can coordinate them with what she is wearing. >> >> >> >> Joy >> > >> >I make different coloured covers to slip over my brace to >> >match outfits. They blend in so well that in the warm weather >> >when the brace is obvious I am asked what have I done to my neck? I was >> >prescribed my first one in 1976! My disguise >> >must work. >> > >> >>^..^< >> >> It would have been about that time , or a bit earlier,that a >> specialist prescribed one for me. I wore it for a year and then >> went to a very knowledgeable physio who worked in a hospital. I was >> there for two weeks and underwent treatment twice a day....very >> painful at times I must add. >> But I came out without the brace and with a bit of help from the >> physio kept reasonably well until the last couple of years or so. >> The makeshift brace was suggested to me by a physio to use when a >> particular activity caused pain. For the most part it works quite >> well. >> >> jingles > >I was told to wear it all the time when I first got it and only take it off >when sitting still. I even had one for night wear. >Then I got to thinking that my muscles would go slack through >lack of use so I only wear it on transport because travelling >over bumps and hard braking is painful. I still do my neck >exercises to keep the muscle tone and I do have a special neck >roll for night. Sometimes I have to resort to my night collar. >I have two & half discs missing so the vertebra are fused, >I have the same prob with my lower back and a steel corset, >but that's another story. :-) > >>^..^< >***** > i am SO glad i don't have back problems. have you seen the new treatment that just cements the bones? i'm not sure if your's is the same trouble but it's been a miracle cure for some. For the latest weather where i am click http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:41 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Okaaaay X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:01:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.112 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066802463 32.103.153.112 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:01:03 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:01:03 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 147 Lines: 9 this society seems to actually exist. . . http://www.worldrps.com/index.html -- Joy Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3f95d168.6062412@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:09:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.112 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066802987 32.103.153.112 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:09:47 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 06:09:47 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1223 Lines: 40 "Jan Lancaster" wrote in message news:bn4klf$kfn$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > > > > >Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the temperature was > > >down to -4°C last night in my garden, and today the sky clouded over and > > >we had some rain. But it has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and > > >Great tits back to my garden feeders. > > >-- > > >Gordon > > >(Smiling at Jeanette) > > A coolish 12°C in Ballarat today, but the sun is brilliant and the > > sky as blue as it is possible to be. It rained all day yesterday so > > the flowers are dew drenched and gorgeous.....and the birds are > > twittering away on my front veranhad as they toss the seed out of the > > feeder all over the concrete.... The resident honey eater is busily > > ruffling the branches of the teatree and the blackbird with the broken > > tail is getting ready to hassle the sparrows. God's in his heaven > > and all's right with my world.... > > > > jingles > > Not too bad here either, 2am & 1c. Chilly for June. > Take that which way..... > > >^..^< > ***** It was 107F here today. I think that's about 41 or 42C. It isn't supposed to be that hot here in October! Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:49:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: <735-3F959B08-249@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d50f.6997875@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066824230 5397 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 12:03:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:03:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 579 Lines: 24 jingles wrote >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:47:42 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>Olly Mensch wrote >>>Gordon - - why wait?! All you have to do is to say something >>>provocative!!! It will have your DESIRED result, and then we will watch >>>you.===Olly >>> >>Au contraire, ma cher.... >>What's the weather like where you are? >>-- >>Gordon > > >Ah Morticia.....I love it when you speak French...(grabbing hand >and salivating all over it....) > >jingles Bleeeeuuugggghhhh! -- Gordon (Grabbing a Kleenex) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:52:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066824232 5397 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 12:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:03:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1381 Lines: 39 jingles wrote >On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" > wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>> An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the >>> question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido >>> Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a >>> challenge!!!!!!!!Olly >>> >>Dear Olly, Pavarotti has perfect pitch and is a pleasure to >>listen to, especially in belle canto roles such as those written >>by Donizetti, his top Cs are so pure. Domingo on the other >>hand started his adult life as a baritone and was encouraged >>to sing tenor parts, so now his voice is more suited to the heavier operatic >>roles of Verdi and Wagner although both men are equally excellent in Puccini >>parts. Pavarotti does a lot of recital work whereas Domingo sings more >>operatic work and is also an excellent actor, Pavarotti is very wooden in >>his operatic roles. Both men are divine to listen to but Domingo >>has the bonus advantage of being a pleasure to watch also. >>Placido gets my vote. Enough dialogue, lets all sing. >> >>>^..^< >>***** > >After you dear lady....."O sole mio..." > >jingles "That don' impress me much - Doo-doo, doo-wahhh"... I don't think either have the same effect on me as Shania, or Cher, or Kylie or Madonna . . . . -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.9.132.196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066816787 29979 127.0.0.1 (22 Oct 2003 09:59:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 617 Lines: 23 > > One of the mindless blatherers..... > > It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless > blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... > But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... > There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice > part is that we can always move on if we don't like the > location....... > > jingles > Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod > > > > > > > >> > > >> Lemme see now.... 38 + 10 = 48. 48/2 = 24°C > >> > >> Yes - I'd settle for that, pretty please..... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:10:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> <735-3F95E9EF-314@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066824233 5397 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 12:03:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:03:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 2583 Lines: 59 jingles wrote >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:22:39 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly >Mensch) wrote: > >>Yet - it seems to be difficult to have a serious but civilized exchange >>of different views, wihout the rancor that usually develops, especially >>in politics. Yet, the world is so interesting - and dangerous - these >>days - and always has been - that it seems hard to escape voicing one's >>concerns and views, and hoping for a discussion without too much bias. >>Well, I shall try to "stifle". God knows what that will do to my >>psyche!!! >>Olly > >I find that where such serious topics are concerned 'face to face' >discussions are better. There is not the same temptation to 'blow up' >as there is on a newsgroup - there is not the same anonymity to hide >behind... >Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on >Iraq fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking >to each other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to >blows.... My daughter is married to an American, my son is >Australian. A second son walked out on the argument and told them >both to 'drop dead'..... > >So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your >leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... > >jingles - who now has to carry the can. > There are certain issues which can split groups, because where there are polarised views, people tend to accuse the holders of opposing views as 'biased'! They assume that if they can convince the other side that they are 'biased' they will change their views. This will never happen. If people wish to debate issues seriously, they should join a debating society composed of people with differing points of view. When the speakers have finished, the whole assembly vote according to which was the most convincing argument. Then they all shut up and go home. ;-) In this country (UK) we joined in a war without any such debate other than in Parliament, where the Opposition supported the government anyway. If there had been a referendum of all citizens, we would not have had a war. This is the source of much of the conflict for and against war in the groups, and I am heartily sick of it. I am convinced, as is most of Europe, that the better way would have been to carry out thorough inspections in Iraq, backed by a *United* UN, not one split by unilateral agendas of a small minority. There, I have gone and done it again. A clear statement of my opinion, no rancour, no bias. Let no one accuse me of either! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:18:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f95ceae.5364161@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066824235 5397 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 12:03:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:03:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 648 Lines: 19 jingles wrote >Got a joke for you Gordon....heard it on TV this morning. > >Annie an 80 year old lady in a nursing home woke up feeling very >randy.....she wandered out into the corridor and found William a >sprightly 85 year old coming out of his room. She put the hard word >on him and they both went back inside.... >They began to make love and suddenly she said "I have acute angina" >"Mmm! " said William "your breasts are pretty good too...." > >Boom! Boom! > >jingles > It gripes me hearing about all these 'sprightly 85 year olds'. I'm 70 soon and my sprightliness is hanging by a thread... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:20:40 +0100 Message-ID: <8lhHSAB4nll$EwYn@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <18585-3F929C16-217@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <+SI3PGCaUyk$EwCP@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <3f95d3a3.6633732@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066824236 5397 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 12:03:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:03:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 584 Lines: 27 jingles wrote >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:38:33 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>~~seadancer~~ wrote >>> >>>At least you don't receive spam that way. >>>Look on the bright side. >>>---Sea >>> >>I'm getting over 250 a day spam. >>-- >>Gordon > >Must be from all those women you have loved and left.... >I had a great deal for a while, but now it has tapered down to just a >few. > You have only loved a few men? I never really leave anyone I loved.... ;-) PS: 250 is way too high..... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:31:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: m169-mp1.cvx2-a.lee.dial.ntli.net (62.252.240.169) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066822294 31089549 62.252.240.169 (16 [155445]) X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Status: O Content-Length: 528 Lines: 18 In article <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net>, Oldie69@webtv.net says... > An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the > question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido > Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a > challenge!!!!!!!!Olly > > Challenge accepted :-) Andrea Bocelli -- Mike Clayton Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.122.232.64 X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1066823578 21986 213.122.232.64 (22 Oct 2003 11:52:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:52:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 791 Lines: 29 "Mike Clayton" wrote in message news:MPG.1a007afeb41d4c3598969d@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > In article <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net>, > Oldie69@webtv.net says... > > An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the > > question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido > > Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a > > challenge!!!!!!!!Olly > > > > > > Challenge accepted :-) > > Andrea Bocelli Come off it Mike, she's talking about singers. He is a warbler, and a wibbly wobbly warbler at that. >^..^< ***** > > -- > Mike Clayton > Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. > Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968) > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> <3f960e0b.21587707@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.122.232.64 X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1066824308 9189 213.122.232.64 (22 Oct 2003 12:05:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1190 Lines: 40 > > > >I was told to wear it all the time when I first got it and only take it off > >when sitting still. I even had one for night wear. > >Then I got to thinking that my muscles would go slack through > >lack of use so I only wear it on transport because travelling > >over bumps and hard braking is painful. I still do my neck > >exercises to keep the muscle tone and I do have a special neck > >roll for night. Sometimes I have to resort to my night collar. > >I have two & half discs missing so the vertebra are fused, > >I have the same prob with my lower back and a steel corset, > >but that's another story. :-) > > > >>^..^< > > Fusing the verterbrae is apparently not an option for me.... > so I have to make the best of it....With a little help from my friends > > > jingles > > >***** It wasn't an option for me either, mother nature did it all by herself. I was offered an op: but it was only a 30% chance of sucess or it might even make it worse. I'm not so much green as cabbage looking, operating in the neck area, surgeon sneezes, paralysed from neck down, I don't think so, I'll put up with the pain, I still enjoy my walks. >^..^< ***** > > > > > > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-91-188.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1066825151 22844 81.131.91.188 (22 Oct 2003 12:19:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:19:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1406 Lines: 37 > >I was told to wear it all the time when I first got it and only take it off > >when sitting still. I even had one for night wear. > >Then I got to thinking that my muscles would go slack through > >lack of use so I only wear it on transport because travelling > >over bumps and hard braking is painful. I still do my neck > >exercises to keep the muscle tone and I do have a special neck > >roll for night. Sometimes I have to resort to my night collar. > >I have two & half discs missing so the vertebra are fused, > >I have the same prob with my lower back and a steel corset, > >but that's another story. :-) > > > >>^..^< > >***** > > > i am SO glad i don't have back problems. > have you seen the new treatment that just cements the bones? > i'm not sure if your's is the same trouble but it's been a miracle > cure for some. > > For the latest weather where i am click > http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/ Mine is a problem with fixed sacroiliac joints, the lower back bones that are suppose to slide when bending. I have learnt to bend from the hip instead of the waist,(waist? what waist?) It is a bit easier but then of course there is, like many of us, the arthritis in left side of hip, knee,shoulder and two thirds of the spine. The bad news I was told, was I had arthritis, diagnosed when I was 23, the good news was it was osteo-! Old age doesn't come itself. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-91-188.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1066825540 26996 81.131.91.188 (22 Oct 2003 12:25:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:25:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1669 Lines: 54 "Gordon" wrote in message news:Bl7IyeAQNll$EwfQ@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > jingles wrote > >On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the > >>> question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido > >>> Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a > >>> challenge!!!!!!!!Olly > >>> > >>Dear Olly, Pavarotti has perfect pitch and is a pleasure to > >>listen to, especially in belle canto roles such as those written > >>by Donizetti, his top Cs are so pure. Domingo on the other > >>hand started his adult life as a baritone and was encouraged > >>to sing tenor parts, so now his voice is more suited to the heavier operatic > >>roles of Verdi and Wagner although both men are equally excellent in Puccini > >>parts. Pavarotti does a lot of recital work whereas Domingo sings more > >>operatic work and is also an excellent actor, Pavarotti is very wooden in > >>his operatic roles. Both men are divine to listen to but Domingo > >>has the bonus advantage of being a pleasure to watch also. > >>Placido gets my vote. Enough dialogue, lets all sing. > >> > >>>^..^< > >>***** > > > >After you dear lady....."O sole mio..." > > > >jingles > > "That don' impress me much - > Doo-doo, doo-wahhh"... > > I don't think either have the same effect on me as Shania, or Cher, or > Kylie or Madonna . . . . > -- > Gordon I should hope not sir seeing they are both males. You reputation would be right up the Swanee. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:05:32 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20858-3F95455B-86@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d452.6808876@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066838339 16973 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 15:58:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:58:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 674 Lines: 21 jingles wrote >On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:40:27 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com >(Jeanette S.) wrote: > >>Gordon wrote: "Plan A was ignoring contentious posts. >>I think it's time for Plan B. >>Watch me. =A0 " >>********************************* >>I'll be watching with bated/baited breath! Which is it - bated or >>baited? 8-) Jeanette > >Did we ever get that one sorted out? > >jingles - whose short tem memory is 'iffy' >> Joy was correct. Bated or 'bated means holding your breath. Baited was what I did with that Plan B post. I hooked one or two, others joined in, and some just swam by without noticing.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:07:40 +0100 Message-ID: References: <735-3F95E547-309@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066838340 16973 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 15:59:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:59:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 373 Lines: 11 Olly Mensch wrote >Gordon - can't deal with your suggested topic, discussing the weather. >Too provocative -I am too old for such blood-curdling topics!!!! Try >again!!===Olly > I can now officially announce the success of plan B. Remember - you heard it first from me, and it could out-live the Atkins diet (or rather its followers). ;-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:42 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:11:14 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066838342 16973 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 15:59:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:59:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 721 Lines: 23 Mike Clayton wrote >In article <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net>, >Oldie69@webtv.net says... >> An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the >> question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido >> Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a >> challenge!!!!!!!!Olly >> >> > >Challenge accepted :-) > >Andrea Bocelli > M wife liked the Three Tenors, with a slight weakness for the Spaniard, but that was purely hormonal. :-) M**** loves Bocelli, and I must admit he has a very plaintive quality in his voice in some of his songs. Unfortunately his name sounds like a bacterial culture. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:14:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066838343 16973 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 15:59:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:59:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 598 Lines: 19 Rod wrote >> >> One of the mindless blatherers..... >> >> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless >> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... >> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... >> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice >> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the >> location....... >> >> jingles >> > >Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod > Well! Rod didn't perch here long, is he a Pole? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:21:11 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F968447-12@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAj0MGRQzIdkx5Bg8BsO2oxomNTCACFQCaP/ucrSwkqq8Pfbj/zPix3Ey7jA== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 252 Lines: 5 Gordon wrote: "OK, wait until someone else gets unpleasant or insulting about politics and read my response. =A0 It's mindless, really..... " ******************************************** OK Gordon - I'll wait with bated/baited breath!!! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:23:40 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F9684DC-13@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAjTelFRWkdASA7q0xImRm4Z3jsmECFDofk4kNyKFGfVu2Fdy6XInAv56k Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 311 Lines: 8 Joy wrote: "That depends on what you've been eating. If you're trying to catch a mouse, and you eat cheese, it's baited. Bate is a form of "abate". I believe "bated breath" means you're holding your breath." ***************************************** Joy, thanks a lot. I ws too lazy to look it up! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:29:18 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19063-3F96862E-3@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQiYt65reHy/kaW6iAsk88SIusECgIUTwz4Rd5OoLcGTF/lbcqHZ02S2DA= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 614 Lines: 11 Olly wrote: "An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a challenge!!!!!!!!" ***************************************** Not being very cultured, I prefer Placido Domingo, especially a song he and Willy Nelson sang. Cannot remember the name. I think it was something about where all the girls go. - No challenge really, particularly as I don't understand anything either of them says (Pavarotti or Domingo) except when sung in English! 8-) Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F968715-14@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAxuwC98pCO+J2wgWTtDzvdNCcGqcCFDSS2IIlWDPf7T42V5bosL1lhgvI Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 121 Lines: 5 Jan wrote: "Enough dialogue, lets all sing. ^..^<" ***************************************** OK, you start! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:36:27 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F9687DB-15@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f95d452.6808876@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAtVVaR7vl5p8UqxkTCAHBcN8g4ucCFFe0+jjzKVeszdziPxLYMCLkuHtW Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 155 Lines: 4 jingles wrote: (re bate/bait breath)" ****************************************** Thanks to Joy, we did. Also she included a little mnemonic! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:40:30 +0100 Message-ID: <6IMWJLBOjol$EwLU@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066838345 16973 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 15:59:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:59:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 3225 Lines: 65 Jan Lancaster wrote > >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:pK8yJDBNyal$EwIz@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> jingles wrote >> > >> >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >> >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... >> >> I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when you >> move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black out' >> I wonder? > >When you say 'black out' does everything start to wobble >so that you feel that you are going to fall over? I have a >cervical spondylosis and a side effect of that is vertebro-basilar >insufficiency. It's caused when the arteries to the base of the brain are >obstructed and the flow of blood is impeded. Unfortunately there is not a >damn thing that can be done about it except the old adage of 'learning to >live with it'. You'll just need to be careful not to jerk your head around >quickly. > Sounds familiar. Nobody has told me I have a spondylosis, but I have self-diagnosed the flow of blood to the brain being impeded. :-( I live with it, and avoid bending my neck back, just as you do. It is very definitely worse when the weather is cold and in a cold wind, so I wrap up. Applying warmth gives relief in two ways, reducing the arthritic effect, and dilating the blood vessels. Of course we know that bitterly cold weather is the time for strokes. My long term fear is that I will experience what happened to my mother. She suddenly went into spasmodic head movements which my sister and I thought was a stroke, but the emergency doctor who came out called it a spasm. He looked thoughtful for a while, and then gave her an injection, which stopped the spasms within a short time. Our own GP came out next day, and almost blew his top when he heard what had happened, saying that the injection should not have been given. He then said "You should realise what you will now have to cope with". He seemed to imply that it would have been better had she been allowed to die. He was right, there was brain damage, and my sister had a hell of a time with her for some 10 months. I was there when I could, but I was working and had a wife and young children. I would go in the evening and tell Sis to get out of the house for a few hours, but she used to say that if she did - she would not come back. I understood that........ We tried everything to get her into a Geriatric hospital, to no avail. It was finally resolved, with my sister at the end of her tether, when the doctor and a district nurse were there, and my sister showed them the timetable of tablets she had to dispense, and declared it impossible to fit them all in and get any sleep. The doc picked the bottles up one at a time, reviewed what they did with the nurse, and removed all but the water tablets and some which were "to keep her quiet" (Instead of her wandering out the door in her nightie!). The nurse firmly told me that I should sleep in the house that night, which I did, to find that my mother had died peacefully in her sleep. If I follow the same path I hope that it will be done sooner! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:41:49 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAhRR48SQmOZHNPTjYt5tAOTWN7coCFDWaFNXeIBD5AlY7lg1DlAbmy50Z Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 876 Lines: 16 jingles, carrying the can wrote: "I find that where such serious topics are concerned 'face to face' discussions are better. There is not the same temptation to 'blow up' as there is on a newsgroup - there is not the same anonymity to hide behind... Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on Iraq fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking to each other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to blows.... My daughter is married to an American, my son is Australian. =A0 A second son walked out on the argument and told them both to 'drop dead'..... So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... jingles - who now has to carry the can. ***************************************** I'm with you. BYW, what do you have in your can? Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:45:30 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F9689FA-18@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAzUbBfwnjFtJHCFD7V88BA9V6z2ECFHYUuafMEZnAl8v9ZSm5aCKGGBK9 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 171 Lines: 5 Gordon wrote: "A clear statement of my opinion, no rancour, no bias. Let no one accuse me of either!" ************************************ Hear, hear, Gordon! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:51:21 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F968B59-19@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhR0RtO2Txk2h1JMaxc3Pxgd/AVJHQIVAIup+G8/IQsJTqsvt6y08NkbQLTk Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 543 Lines: 10 Joy wrote: "I'm glad to hear it, Jeanette. I didn't know it was ever used for BP. The medication I take for that has no side effects - or rather I am experiencing no side effects from it. ;-)" ********************************** The nitro helps, but not completely. I also take Cozaar. It is hard to control my blood pressure as it stems from valvular heart disease and atrial fibrillation. Until a year ago this past August, even with my health problems, I never had BP go over the 130's with diastolic somewere in the 50/60's. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:54:32 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F968C18-20@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQ1s9im22FFQIG5KjxWT/mMWdOLFAIVAK2CMOeSuMBLrZ1XZ9PyIP4ELrB0 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 408 Lines: 8 Joy wrote: "Yes I did, and I agree - all around. Of course maybe if he'd look for somebody in his own age group, he'd have better luck with marriage. Did you see him in "City of Angels?"" ************************************* No I didn't. I hardly ever go out to the movie theatre any more, just wait for the movie to come out on video. By then, I've forgotten that I wanted to see it! Sigh... Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Addy change/phoney MSN messages Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:04:06 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F968E56-22@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAzRo5vBJeyO/Lb6HXMtnY9Nddx9cCFQCthXvc4sH3AmBZcPBKUYUgLHDgUw== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 314 Lines: 9 Uh oh! Did you knock on wood when you made your first statement? Jeanette I would've, but I forgot where I put my head for the moment. -- Gordon ********************************** Good one, Gordon! I save the head for the last resort. (I don't really want everyone to know I've a "hard" head!) Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:13:47 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F96909B-23@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAp3uyJ8hx8SQTSXj79CmWJC87MnkCFQCFNbm1s6y4DkvQgjOqul1U6sg7tA== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 539 Lines: 11 Gordon wrote: " We went out for a meal with friends this evening, a very pleasant conversation, plenty of laughs. It started very cold today, and wet, but as the low cloud crept across the sky the temperature eased upwards......" ****************************************** LOL, Gordon. Here the temp was in the low 50's in the morning but warmed up quite nicely by noon. We've had much coler ays and nights than usual for this time of year in Texas, and that s good! Went next door for dinner - potato soup! Yum! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:43 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310210508.4e9e3965@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:24:35 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.153 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066836275 171.75.14.153 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:24:35 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:24:35 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 1856 Lines: 47 "Rod" wrote in message news:3c122aad.0310210508.4e9e3965@posting.google.com... > "Bob Thomas" wrote in message news:... > > "Lady Dagon" wrote in message > > news:1961e432.0310190514.3b2abcf3@posting.google.com... > > > Jan wrote in message > > news:... > > > > > > > > People have far more sense than you seem to give them credit for. > > > > This is just another rabid US media storm in a tea-cup. It will pass. > > > > > > > > > Just like our presence in Iraq? Which the President promised would > > > not be long? > > > > WRONG!!! He never promised that. > > > Rumsfeld not Bush but then it is Bush's man said on April 13, 2003 > Meet the Press: "The task is to create an environment that is > sufficiently permissive that the Iraqi people can fashion a new > government. And what they will do is come together in one way or > another and select an interim authority of some kind. Then that group > will propose a constitution and a more permanent authority of some > kind. And over some period of months, the Iraqis will have their > government selected by Iraqi people." On the same program, Ahmed > Chalabi, the Pentagon's favored exile, stated: "After (Gen. Jay > Garner) finishes his job of restoring basic services, the interim > Iraqi authority will be established. And that interim authority will > be an authority of Iraqis, chosen by Iraqis. And it will be able to > function as an authority in the country immediately after Gen. > Garner's job is finished, which should be only a few weeks." > Not sure to what he refers to as Garner's job. It does seem to indicate a speedy resolution. Oh well, I've been wrong before. grin bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <52a6abdc.0310191956.31be37c@posting.google.com> <14154-3F93F043-74@storefull-2315.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:24:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.153 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066836276 171.75.14.153 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:24:36 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:24:36 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 725 Lines: 23 "Gordon" wrote in message news:KzMqH7APPDl$Ew+7@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Jeanette S. wrote > >Toci wrote: "I enjoy the political dialogue, except when people seem > >distressed by the differences of opinion. There are long threads where > >I've lost interest that I just don't open. Why not do that if you are > >off a set of topics fo awhile? Toci" > >******************************************** > >I do Toci, but, I wouldn't want to miss anything in a thread that is off > >the subject, now would I? 8-) Jeanette > > > Plan A was ignoring contentious posts. > I think it's time for Plan B. > Watch me. > "Contentious" being defined as?????????? cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102217085576656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:08:55 +0100 Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Re: I want to puke References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3f95d168.6062412@news.individual.net> X-Trace: 1066839302 master.news.zetnet.net 192 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 1401 Lines: 32 The message from "Yoj" contains these words: > "Jan Lancaster" wrote in message > news:bn4klf$kfn$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > > Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the > > > > temperature was down to -4°C last night in my garden, and > > > > today the sky clouded over and we had some rain. But it > > > > has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and Great tits > > > > back to my garden feeders. > > > A coolish 12°C in Ballarat today, but the sun is brilliant > > > and the sky as blue as it is possible to be. It rained all > > > day yesterday so the flowers are dew drenched and gorgeous... > > > ..and the birds are twittering away on my front veranhad as > > > they toss the seed out of the feeder all over the concrete. > > > The resident honey eater is busily ruffling the branches of > > > the teatree and the blackbird with the broken tail is getting > > > ready to hassle the sparrows. God's in his heaven and all's > > > right with my world.... > > Not too bad here either, 2am & 1c. Chilly for June. > > Take that which way..... > It was 107F here today. I think that's about 41 or 42C. It isn't > supposed to be that hot here in October! We had snow on the hills around Perth last night! -- AnneJ ICQ #:- 119531282 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:09:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <19063-3F96862E-3@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066842107 11479 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 17:01:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:01:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 883 Lines: 26 Jeanette S. wrote >Olly wrote: "An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows >(!!) over the question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or >Placido Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as >a challenge!!!!!!!!" >***************************************** >Not being very cultured, I prefer Placido Domingo, especially a song he >and Willy Nelson sang. Cannot remember the name. I think it was >something about where all the girls go. - No challenge really, >particularly as I don't understand anything either of them says >(Pavarotti or Domingo) except when sung in English! 8-) Jeanette > Translating - Returnioioio a Sorriento: ========================= "Beneath thy window, as the dawn is breaking... . . . Come back to Sorrento, the seagulls are missing thee..." Summink like that..... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:18:48 +0100 Message-ID: <6qF2RZAo3ql$EwpS@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> <3f960e0b.21587707@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066842109 11479 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 17:01:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:01:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1626 Lines: 45 Jan Lancaster wrote > >> Fusing the verterbrae is apparently not an option for me.... >> so I have to make the best of it....With a little help from my friends >> >> >> jingles >> >> >***** > >It wasn't an option for me either, mother nature did it >all by herself. I was offered an op: but it was only a 30% chance of sucess >or it might even make it worse. I'm not >so much green as cabbage looking, operating in the neck > area, surgeon sneezes, paralysed from neck down, I don't >think so, I'll put up with the pain, I still enjoy my walks. > >>^..^< >***** My close friend was in his 50s when he had bad problems with his back. He was unable to get in and out of his car without severe pain, and unable to lift the ladders out of the car boot to do his job as a surveyor. His company paid BUPA for him, so he went to a specialist. The outcome was that he was told that he needed an operation which would give him only a 50% chance of being able to walk. The company said that if he wanted to get back to work . . . . . So he had the op, and was able to walk, but has to 'throw' his foot, like John Thaw did, but for a different reason. He had to have a company car which was automatic and with plenty of headroom. He got that, then they offered him early retirement soon after, I suspect because he was not doing as many surveys as the younger guys. ;-) He has all kinds of skeletal/ nerve problems which can't be diagnosed, so has had a spinal tap, which crippled him for a week, and he is only slowly recovering. We are hoping for good news but . . . -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:54:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: m293-mp1.cvx2-a.lee.dial.ntli.net (62.252.241.37) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066841629 31108525 62.252.241.37 (16 [155445]) X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Status: O Content-Length: 932 Lines: 28 In article , Jan.Lancaster1 @btopenworld.com says... > > "Mike Clayton" wrote in message > news:MPG.1a007afeb41d4c3598969d@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > > In article <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net>, > > Oldie69@webtv.net says... > > > An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the > > > question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido > > > Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a > > > challenge!!!!!!!!Olly > > > > > > > > > > Challenge accepted :-) > > > > Andrea Bocelli > > Come off it Mike, she's talking about singers. He is a > warbler, and a wibbly wobbly warbler at that. > I hope that his Mum never reads that -- Mike Clayton Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:59:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: m293-mp1.cvx2-a.lee.dial.ntli.net (62.252.241.37) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066841930 31108525 62.252.241.37 (16 [155445]) X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Status: O Content-Length: 444 Lines: 14 In article , Gordon@g3snx.demon.co.uk says... > M**** loves Bocelli, and I must admit he has a very plaintive quality in > his voice in some of his songs. > > Unfortunately his name sounds like a bacterial culture. > Sounds like a pasta dish to me :-) -- Mike Clayton Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Special delivery from Mikal X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:30:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.103 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066843854 32.103.153.103 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:30:54 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:30:54 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 258 Lines: 15 This appeared at alt.fiftyplus this morning. -- Joy Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg "How about making a delivery for me, Jingles would love this.... http://www.renewal.org.au/object/photos/index.html Say hello for me...." From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <19061-3F968B59-19@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.103 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066844300 32.103.153.103 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:20 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:20 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1016 Lines: 22 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:19061-3F968B59-19@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Joy wrote: "I'm glad to hear it, Jeanette. I didn't know it was ever > used for BP. The medication I take for that has no side effects - or > rather I am experiencing no side effects from it. ;-)" > ********************************** > The nitro helps, but not completely. I also take Cozaar. It is hard to > control my blood pressure as it stems from valvular heart disease and > atrial fibrillation. Until a year ago this past August, even with my > health problems, I never had BP go over the 130's with diastolic > somewere in the 50/60's. Jeanette My high blood pressure is a relatively new development too - in the last couple of years. I remember one exam, a loooong time ago, when the nurse tried three different sphigmomometers (sp?) before she would believe my BP was 90/60. I have a minor problem with my heart, but nothing like yours. I hope the medication helps. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <6IMWJLBOjol$EwLU@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.103 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066844299 32.103.153.103 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:38:19 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 3587 Lines: 90 "Gordon" wrote in message news:6IMWJLBOjol$EwLU@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Jan Lancaster wrote > > > >"Gordon" wrote in message > >news:pK8yJDBNyal$EwIz@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > >> jingles wrote > >> > > >> >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it > >> >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... > >> > >> I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when you > >> move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black out' > >> I wonder? > > > >When you say 'black out' does everything start to wobble > >so that you feel that you are going to fall over? I have a > >cervical spondylosis and a side effect of that is vertebro-basilar > >insufficiency. It's caused when the arteries to the base of the brain are > >obstructed and the flow of blood is impeded. Unfortunately there is not a > >damn thing that can be done about it except the old adage of 'learning to > >live with it'. You'll just need to be careful not to jerk your head around > >quickly. > > > Sounds familiar. Nobody has told me I have a spondylosis, but I have > self-diagnosed the flow of blood to the brain being impeded. :-( > > I live with it, and avoid bending my neck back, just as you do. > It is very definitely worse when the weather is cold and in a cold wind, > so I wrap up. Applying warmth gives relief in two ways, reducing > the arthritic effect, and dilating the blood vessels. > > Of course we know that bitterly cold weather is the time for strokes. > > My long term fear is that I will experience what happened to my mother. > She suddenly went into spasmodic head movements which my sister and I > thought was a stroke, but the emergency doctor who came out called it a > spasm. He looked thoughtful for a while, and then gave her an > injection, which stopped the spasms within a short time. > > Our own GP came out next day, and almost blew his top when he heard what > had happened, saying that the injection should not have been given. > He then said "You should realise what you will now have to cope with". > He seemed to imply that it would have been better had she been allowed > to die. > He was right, there was brain damage, and my sister had a hell of a time > with her for some 10 months. I was there when I could, but I was > working and had a wife and young children. I would go in the evening > and tell Sis to get out of the house for a few hours, but she used to > say that if she did - she would not come back. I understood > that........ > > We tried everything to get her into a Geriatric hospital, to no avail. > It was finally resolved, with my sister at the end of her tether, when > the doctor and a district nurse were there, and my sister showed them > the timetable of tablets she had to dispense, and declared it impossible > to fit them all in and get any sleep. > > The doc picked the bottles up one at a time, reviewed what they did with > the nurse, and removed all but the water tablets and some which were "to > keep her quiet" (Instead of her wandering out the door in her nightie!). > > The nurse firmly told me that I should sleep in the house that night, > which I did, to find that my mother had died peacefully in her sleep. > If I follow the same path I hope that it will be done sooner! > -- > Gordon I know what you mean, Gordon. What a terrible experience for all of you! How is your sister doing now? Has she ever really recovered? Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <19061-3F968C18-20@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <5hzlb.189274$0v4.14651256@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:39:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.103 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066844353 32.103.153.103 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:39:13 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:39:13 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 679 Lines: 18 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:19061-3F968C18-20@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Joy wrote: "Yes I did, and I agree - all around. Of course maybe if > he'd look for somebody in his own age group, he'd have better luck with > marriage. Did you see him in "City of Angels?"" > ************************************* > No I didn't. I hardly ever go out to the movie theatre any more, just > wait for the movie to come out on video. By then, I've forgotten that I > wanted to see it! Sigh... Jeanette The next time you're looking for a video, see if they have "City of Angels". If you like Nicholas Cage, you'll love the movie. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3f95d168.6062412@news.individual.net> <2003102217085576656@zetnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:46:31 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.103 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066844791 32.103.153.103 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:46:31 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:46:31 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1569 Lines: 41 "Anne Jackson" wrote in message news:2003102217085576656@zetnet.co.uk... > The message > from "Yoj" contains these words: > > "Jan Lancaster" wrote in message > > news:bn4klf$kfn$1@titan.btinternet.com... > > > > > > Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the > > > > > temperature was down to -4°C last night in my garden, and > > > > > today the sky clouded over and we had some rain. But it > > > > > has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and Great tits > > > > > back to my garden feeders. > > > > > A coolish 12°C in Ballarat today, but the sun is brilliant > > > > and the sky as blue as it is possible to be. It rained all > > > > day yesterday so the flowers are dew drenched and gorgeous... > > > > ..and the birds are twittering away on my front veranhad as > > > > they toss the seed out of the feeder all over the concrete. > > > > The resident honey eater is busily ruffling the branches of > > > > the teatree and the blackbird with the broken tail is getting > > > > ready to hassle the sparrows. God's in his heaven and all's > > > > right with my world.... > > > > Not too bad here either, 2am & 1c. Chilly for June. > > > Take that which way..... > > > It was 107F here today. I think that's about 41 or 42C. It isn't > > supposed to be that hot here in October! > > We had snow on the hills around Perth last night! > > -- > AnneJ > ICQ #:- 119531282 Which Perth? ;-) Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Concorde's last Flight Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:51:37 +0100 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066845113 25865 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 17:51:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:51:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 621 Lines: 16 I watched moist-eyed tonight as Concorde was seen taking off from Manchester Airport for it's last flight. A magnificent sight, as she took off like a beautiful but hook-nosed bird, never destined to make huge profits for the airlines, but what an engineering achievement. The only supersonic airliner built, as others were abandoned, and an Anglo-French achievement of which I am proud . . . . The sight of those four afterburners winking as she disappeared into the haze was awesome. Apparently all the approach roads to the airport were jammed as people flocked to see her. I flocked to the TV.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:56:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <6IMWJLBOjol$EwLU@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066845714 3358 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 18:01:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:01:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 544 Lines: 16 Yoj wrote > >I know what you mean, Gordon. What a terrible experience for all of >you! How is your sister doing now? Has she ever really recovered? > >Joy Oh yes, she married and moved away, selling the house to a property developer and making a killing. She's a bit eccentric, has had many dogs over the years, including at one time six Shiatsus. Wears strange clothes...... :-) She had a stroke several years ago but almost completely recovered except for slow speech, which is a blessing really. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:44 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Okaaaay Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:58:51 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066845717 3358 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 18:01:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:01:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 285 Lines: 14 Yoj wrote >this society seems to actually exist. . . >http://www.worldrps.com/index.html > >-- >Joy > >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > LOL! I must admit that I misunderstood the first part of the animation. (With apologies) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Special delivery from Mikal Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:04:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066846086 27171 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 18:08:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:08:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 346 Lines: 18 Yoj wrote >This appeared at alt.fiftyplus this morning. > >-- >Joy > >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > > >"How about making a delivery for me, Jingles would love this.... > >http://www.renewal.org.au/object/photos/index.html > >Say hello for me...." > Especially the ones of naked men? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102219240276656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:24:02 +0100 Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Re: I want to puke References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3f95d168.6062412@news.individual.net> <2003102217085576656@zetnet.co.uk> X-Trace: 1066847043 master.news.zetnet.net 189 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 600 Lines: 21 The message from "Yoj" contains these words: > "Anne Jackson" wrote in message > news:2003102217085576656@zetnet.co.uk... > > > > Not too bad here either, 2am & 1c. Chilly for June. > > > > Take that which way..... > > > > > It was 107F here today. I think that's about 41 or 42C. It isn't > > > supposed to be that hot here in October! > > > > We had snow on the hills around Perth last night! > Which Perth? ;-) The Original (Scottish) one! ;-) -- AnneJ ICQ #:- 119531282 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <6IMWJLBOjol$EwLU@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:39:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.251 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066847973 32.103.153.251 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:39:33 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:39:33 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 739 Lines: 24 "Gordon" wrote in message news:esPfwbAATsl$EwN5@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > > > >I know what you mean, Gordon. What a terrible experience for all of > >you! How is your sister doing now? Has she ever really recovered? > > > >Joy > > Oh yes, she married and moved away, selling the house to a property > developer and making a killing. She's a bit eccentric, has had many > dogs over the years, including at one time six Shiatsus. > Wears strange clothes...... :-) > > She had a stroke several years ago but almost completely recovered > except for slow speech, which is a blessing really. > -- > Gordon Quite the talker, is she? ;-) I'm glad she's doing so well. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3f95d168.6062412@news.individual.net> <2003102217085576656@zetnet.co.uk> <2003102219240276656@zetnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <4aAlb.189328$0v4.14654419@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:40:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.251 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066848000 32.103.153.251 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:40:00 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:40:00 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 779 Lines: 31 "Anne Jackson" wrote in message news:2003102219240276656@zetnet.co.uk... > The message > from "Yoj" contains these words: > > > "Anne Jackson" wrote in message > > news:2003102217085576656@zetnet.co.uk... > > > > > > Not too bad here either, 2am & 1c. Chilly for June. > > > > > Take that which way..... > > > > > > > It was 107F here today. I think that's about 41 or 42C. It isn't > > > > supposed to be that hot here in October! > > > > > > We had snow on the hills around Perth last night! > > > Which Perth? ;-) > > The Original (Scottish) one! ;-) > > -- > AnneJ > ICQ #:- 119531282 I suspected as much, but one never knows. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: Subject: Re: Okaaaay X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:40:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.251 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066848038 32.103.153.251 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:40:38 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:40:38 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 463 Lines: 23 "Gordon" wrote in message news:XcZdcmAbVsl$EwPV@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > >this society seems to actually exist. . . > >http://www.worldrps.com/index.html > > > >-- > >Joy > > > >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > > > LOL! I must admit that I misunderstood the first part of the animation. > > (With apologies) > -- > Gordon I did too, at first. Rather strange, isn't it? Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: Subject: Re: Special delivery from Mikal X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:41:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.251 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066848078 32.103.153.251 (Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:41:18 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:41:18 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 565 Lines: 27 "Gordon" wrote in message news:csufgzAEbsl$EwM5@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > >This appeared at alt.fiftyplus this morning. > > > >-- > >Joy > > > >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > > > > > >"How about making a delivery for me, Jingles would love this.... > > > >http://www.renewal.org.au/object/photos/index.html > > > >Say hello for me...." > > > Especially the ones of naked men? > -- > Gordon Hmm. I must have missed those. Maybe I'd better go back for another look. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Okaaaay Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:52:13 +0100 Message-ID: <39UFENAt$tl$EwZ6@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066854739 8388 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 20:32:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:32:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 691 Lines: 28 Yoj wrote >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:XcZdcmAbVsl$EwPV@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> Yoj wrote >> >this society seems to actually exist. . . >> >http://www.worldrps.com/index.html >> > >> >-- >> >Joy >> > >> >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg >> > >> LOL! I must admit that I misunderstood the first part of the >animation. >> >> (With apologies) >> -- >> Gordon > >I did too, at first. Rather strange, isn't it? > >Joy Yes. When we played it we would hide our hands behind our backs and bring them out on a count of three, rather than.... than.... what the two figures are doing. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Special delivery from Mikal Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:53:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066854740 8388 194.222.103.116 (22 Oct 2003 20:32:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:32:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 713 Lines: 31 Yoj wrote >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:csufgzAEbsl$EwM5@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> Yoj wrote >> >This appeared at alt.fiftyplus this morning. >> > >> >-- >> >Joy >> > >> >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg >> > >> > >> >"How about making a delivery for me, Jingles would love this.... >> > >> >http://www.renewal.org.au/object/photos/index.html >> > >> >Say hello for me...." >> > >> Especially the ones of naked men? >> -- >> Gordon > >Hmm. I must have missed those. Maybe I'd better go back for another >look. > >Joy > I just clicked on a few at random, but nothing to get excited about anyway........ -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:57:59 GMT Message-ID: <3f96fd10.4917086@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> <3f960e0b.21587707@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066859883 31497512 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1414 Lines: 43 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >> > >> >I was told to wear it all the time when I first got it and only take it >off >> >when sitting still. I even had one for night wear. >> >Then I got to thinking that my muscles would go slack through >> >lack of use so I only wear it on transport because travelling >> >over bumps and hard braking is painful. I still do my neck >> >exercises to keep the muscle tone and I do have a special neck >> >roll for night. Sometimes I have to resort to my night collar. >> >I have two & half discs missing so the vertebra are fused, >> >I have the same prob with my lower back and a steel corset, >> >but that's another story. :-) >> > >> >>^..^< >> >> Fusing the verterbrae is apparently not an option for me.... >> so I have to make the best of it....With a little help from my friends >> >> >> jingles >> >> >***** > >It wasn't an option for me either, mother nature did it >all by herself. I was offered an op: but it was only a 30% chance of sucess >or it might even make it worse. I'm not >so much green as cabbage looking, operating in the neck > area, surgeon sneezes, paralysed from neck down, I don't >think so, I'll put up with the pain, I still enjoy my walks. > >>^..^< I tend to feel the same way ..... when the Grim Reaper calls, I want to be on my feet and running jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:01:24 GMT Message-ID: <3f96fdc5.5098969@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> <3f960e0b.21587707@news.individual.net> <6qF2RZAo3ql$EwpS@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066860087 31497512 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1942 Lines: 55 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:18:48 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Jan Lancaster wrote >> >>> Fusing the verterbrae is apparently not an option for me.... >>> so I have to make the best of it....With a little help from my friends >>> >>> >>> jingles >>> >>> >***** >> >>It wasn't an option for me either, mother nature did it >>all by herself. I was offered an op: but it was only a 30% chance of sucess >>or it might even make it worse. I'm not >>so much green as cabbage looking, operating in the neck >> area, surgeon sneezes, paralysed from neck down, I don't >>think so, I'll put up with the pain, I still enjoy my walks. >> >>>^..^< >>***** > >My close friend was in his 50s when he had bad problems with his back. >He was unable to get in and out of his car without severe pain, and >unable to lift the ladders out of the car boot to do his job as a >surveyor. > >His company paid BUPA for him, so he went to a specialist. >The outcome was that he was told that he needed an operation which would >give him only a 50% chance of being able to walk. The company said >that if he wanted to get back to work . . . . . > >So he had the op, and was able to walk, but has to 'throw' his foot, >like John Thaw did, but for a different reason. > >He had to have a company car which was automatic and with plenty of >headroom. He got that, then they offered him early retirement soon >after, I suspect because he was not doing as many surveys as the younger >guys. ;-) > >He has all kinds of skeletal/ nerve problems which can't be diagnosed, >so has had a spinal tap, which crippled him for a week, and he is only >slowly recovering. > >We are hoping for good news but . . . >-- >Gordon He certainly is having a rough time.... My young (50) niece is a nurse and had a back problem.....her surgery didn't relieve the pain at all....she is still having a lot of problems. jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:04:24 GMT Message-ID: <3f96fea7.5324094@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f95ceae.5364161@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066860267 31497512 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 908 Lines: 29 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:18:19 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>Got a joke for you Gordon....heard it on TV this morning. >> >>Annie an 80 year old lady in a nursing home woke up feeling very >>randy.....she wandered out into the corridor and found William a >>sprightly 85 year old coming out of his room. She put the hard word >>on him and they both went back inside.... >>They began to make love and suddenly she said "I have acute angina" >>"Mmm! " said William "your breasts are pretty good too...." >> >>Boom! Boom! >> >>jingles >> > >It gripes me hearing about all these 'sprightly 85 year olds'. >I'm 70 soon and my sprightliness is hanging by a thread... >-- >Gordon Don't you think it is odd that these sprightly 85 year olds only appear in jokes.....? gives you something to think about.... Hang in there Gordon.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:08:37 GMT Message-ID: <3f96ff96.5563614@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <6IMWJLBOjol$EwLU@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066860521 31497512 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 3533 Lines: 74 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:40:30 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Jan Lancaster wrote >> >>"Gordon" wrote in message >>news:pK8yJDBNyal$EwIz@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >>> jingles wrote >>> > >>> >Only an overnight stay Val....a precautionary measure only....it >>> >turned out to be the arthritis in the neck causing the problem.... >>> >>> I didn't read this post properly. Do you get a stiff neck and when you >>> move your head a certain way feel as though you are going to 'black out' >>> I wonder? >> >>When you say 'black out' does everything start to wobble >>so that you feel that you are going to fall over? I have a >>cervical spondylosis and a side effect of that is vertebro-basilar >>insufficiency. It's caused when the arteries to the base of the brain are >>obstructed and the flow of blood is impeded. Unfortunately there is not a >>damn thing that can be done about it except the old adage of 'learning to >>live with it'. You'll just need to be careful not to jerk your head around >>quickly. >> >Sounds familiar. Nobody has told me I have a spondylosis, but I have >self-diagnosed the flow of blood to the brain being impeded. :-( > >I live with it, and avoid bending my neck back, just as you do. >It is very definitely worse when the weather is cold and in a cold wind, >so I wrap up. Applying warmth gives relief in two ways, reducing >the arthritic effect, and dilating the blood vessels. > >Of course we know that bitterly cold weather is the time for strokes. > >My long term fear is that I will experience what happened to my mother. >She suddenly went into spasmodic head movements which my sister and I >thought was a stroke, but the emergency doctor who came out called it a >spasm. He looked thoughtful for a while, and then gave her an >injection, which stopped the spasms within a short time. > >Our own GP came out next day, and almost blew his top when he heard what >had happened, saying that the injection should not have been given. >He then said "You should realise what you will now have to cope with". >He seemed to imply that it would have been better had she been allowed >to die. >He was right, there was brain damage, and my sister had a hell of a time >with her for some 10 months. I was there when I could, but I was >working and had a wife and young children. I would go in the evening >and tell Sis to get out of the house for a few hours, but she used to >say that if she did - she would not come back. I understood >that........ > >We tried everything to get her into a Geriatric hospital, to no avail. >It was finally resolved, with my sister at the end of her tether, when >the doctor and a district nurse were there, and my sister showed them >the timetable of tablets she had to dispense, and declared it impossible >to fit them all in and get any sleep. > >The doc picked the bottles up one at a time, reviewed what they did with >the nurse, and removed all but the water tablets and some which were "to >keep her quiet" (Instead of her wandering out the door in her nightie!). > >The nurse firmly told me that I should sleep in the house that night, >which I did, to find that my mother had died peacefully in her sleep. >If I follow the same path I hope that it will be done sooner! >-- >Gordon What a traumatic experience for both of you....and what a wise gp you had..... I often think we are kinder to our animals than we are to human beings..... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:19:36 GMT Message-ID: <3f97022f.6229007@news.individual.net> References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066861179 30466376 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 442 Lines: 19 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:52:16 +0100, Gordon wrote: >> >>After you dear lady....."O sole mio..." >> >>jingles > >"That don' impress me much - >Doo-doo, doo-wahhh"... > >I don't think either have the same effect on me as Shania, or Cher, or >Kylie or Madonna . . . . >-- >Gordon I notice that each and every one of them reduces their gear to a minimum one of them actually sings I believe.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:45 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:21:32 GMT Message-ID: <3f9702ca.6383991@news.individual.net> References: <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> <735-3F95E9EF-314@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066861296 30466376 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2824 Lines: 68 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:10:55 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:22:39 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly >>Mensch) wrote: >> >>>Yet - it seems to be difficult to have a serious but civilized exchange >>>of different views, wihout the rancor that usually develops, especially >>>in politics. Yet, the world is so interesting - and dangerous - these >>>days - and always has been - that it seems hard to escape voicing one's >>>concerns and views, and hoping for a discussion without too much bias. >>>Well, I shall try to "stifle". God knows what that will do to my >>>psyche!!! >>>Olly >> >>I find that where such serious topics are concerned 'face to face' >>discussions are better. There is not the same temptation to 'blow up' >>as there is on a newsgroup - there is not the same anonymity to hide >>behind... >>Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on >>Iraq fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking >>to each other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to >>blows.... My daughter is married to an American, my son is >>Australian. A second son walked out on the argument and told them >>both to 'drop dead'..... >> >>So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your >>leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... >> >>jingles - who now has to carry the can. >> >There are certain issues which can split groups, because where there are >polarised views, people tend to accuse the holders of opposing views as >'biased'! They assume that if they can convince the other side that >they are 'biased' they will change their views. >This will never happen. > >If people wish to debate issues seriously, they should join a debating >society composed of people with differing points of view. >When the speakers have finished, the whole assembly vote according to >which was the most convincing argument. >Then they all shut up and go home. ;-) > >In this country (UK) we joined in a war without any such debate other >than in Parliament, where the Opposition supported the government >anyway. If there had been a referendum of all citizens, we would not >have had a war. > >This is the source of much of the conflict for and against war in the >groups, and I am heartily sick of it. > >I am convinced, as is most of Europe, that the better way would have >been to carry out thorough inspections in Iraq, backed by a *United* UN, >not one split by unilateral agendas of a small minority. > >There, I have gone and done it again. > >A clear statement of my opinion, no rancour, no bias. >Let no one accuse me of either! >-- >Gordon I'm not giving you an argument but I do wish Blair would change his hairdresser..... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:27:29 GMT Message-ID: <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066861652 31423204 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1054 Lines: 24 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:41:49 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >jingles, carrying the can wrote: "I find that where such serious topics >are concerned 'face to face' discussions are better. There is not the >same temptation to 'blow up' as there is on a newsgroup - there is not >the same anonymity to hide behind... >Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on Iraq >fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking to each >other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to blows.... >My daughter is married to an American, my son is Australian. =A0 A >second son walked out on the argument and told them both to 'drop >dead'..... >So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your >leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... >jingles - who now has to carry the can. >***************************************** >I'm with you. BYW, what do you have in your can? Jeanette Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:34:28 GMT Message-ID: <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066862071 31423204 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 873 Lines: 33 On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >> >> One of the mindless blatherers..... >> >> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless >> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... >> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... >> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice >> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the >> location....... >> >> jingles >> > >Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the legendary asp....? jingles > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> Lemme see now.... 38 + 10 = 48. 48/2 = 24°C >> >> >> >> Yes - I'd settle for that, pretty please..... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:35:39 GMT Message-ID: <3f970627.7244697@news.individual.net> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066862142 31423204 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 749 Lines: 26 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 14:14:03 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Rod wrote >>> >>> One of the mindless blatherers..... >>> >>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless >>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... >>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... >>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice >>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the >>> location....... >>> >>> jingles >>> >> >>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod >> >Well! Rod didn't perch here long, is he a Pole? >-- >Gordon 'I think he wanted the whole nine yards.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:36:33 GMT Message-ID: <3f970652.7287901@news.individual.net> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3f95d168.6062412@news.individual.net> <2003102217085576656@zetnet.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-095.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.95) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066862196 31423204 203.87.45.95 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1609 Lines: 40 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:08:55 +0100, Anne Jackson wrote: >The message >from "Yoj" contains these words: >> "Jan Lancaster" wrote in message >> news:bn4klf$kfn$1@titan.btinternet.com... > >> > > > Well, autumn is really here now in northern England, the >> > > > temperature was down to -4°C last night in my garden, and >> > > > today the sky clouded over and we had some rain. But it >> > > > has brought the Greenfinches, Goldfinches and Great tits >> > > > back to my garden feeders. > >> > > A coolish 12°C in Ballarat today, but the sun is brilliant >> > > and the sky as blue as it is possible to be. It rained all >> > > day yesterday so the flowers are dew drenched and gorgeous... >> > > ..and the birds are twittering away on my front veranhad as >> > > they toss the seed out of the feeder all over the concrete. >> > > The resident honey eater is busily ruffling the branches of >> > > the teatree and the blackbird with the broken tail is getting >> > > ready to hassle the sparrows. God's in his heaven and all's >> > > right with my world.... > >> > Not too bad here either, 2am & 1c. Chilly for June. >> > Take that which way..... > >> It was 107F here today. I think that's about 41 or 42C. It isn't >> supposed to be that hot here in October! > >We had snow on the hills around Perth last night! > >-- >AnneJ > ICQ #:- 119531282 For a horrible moment I thought you were speaking of Perth OZ.... jingles - a senior moment From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: What chores are on your docket? Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:13:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f91c645.2427311@news.individual.net> <5Telb.9601$Ec1.871834@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp288.tc-1.alb-pt.ny.localnet.com (66.153.29.34) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066864703 30805356 66.153.29.34 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1812 Lines: 42 "Yoj" wrote > > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > > >Yes, the deer was very lucky. > > >They wanted to re-introduce Moose to the Adirondacks, > > >but that would have been terrible for the drivers. > > >Hitting a moose is much worse than hitting a deer. > > >Drivers have been killed that way. > > >Maine has a pretty good moose population. > > >Remember the moose in Northern Exposure, > > >the TV series? It seemed as if he had his own > > >music in the intro. > > >---Sea > > > > > You mean Bullwinkle and his buddy, Rocky the squirrel? > > Gordon > > Different moose and different show, but I liked Bullwinkle and Rocky. > Northern Exposure was about a fictional Alaska town. My mother, who > lives in Alaska, said a lot of Alaskans enjoyed watching the show > because it was so ridiculous. > Incidentally, Sea is right about hitting a moose being dangerous. A > friend of my mother's had an accident with a moose before my mother > moved to Alaska. The woman hit the moose, apparently while driving > fairly fast. The moose landed on the top of her car, and the woman had > brain damage as a result. She walks with a limp and has trouble with > speech, among other problems, as a result. > Joy Thanks for explaining Northern Exposure, Joy. The first time I heard Northern Exposure was when I was asleep on the sofa with the TV on. All of a sudden, even in my sleepy state, I knew I was listening to some outstanding dialogue. I was hooked from then on. I especially liked the actors who played the young doctor and his sometime girlfriend, the one with the cute face and the short hair. I also enjoyed the laconic character who served as the doctor's receptionist. As for the dangers of moose, you gave a perfect example of what I was talking about. ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:21:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f8375dc$0$20475$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f872485$0$5391$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f920820.19288198@news.individual.net> <+xLH3aAUzxk$EwQG@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <1V5FeSAY6Vl$Ew6P@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp288.tc-1.alb-pt.ny.localnet.com (66.153.29.34) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066865178 32102093 66.153.29.34 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1277 Lines: 30 "Gordon" wrote > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Are you going to scrub the floors? > >I knew a gal who had to wear rubber gloves just > >to wash the dishes because her skin was so > >sensitive. > >---Sea > > > When did you last wash the dishes? I expect you have a dishwasher. > Fact 1 - Modern washing up detergents are not kind to your skin, in fact > they remove all the natural oils if you are not careful. > Fact 2 - To hand-wash dishes in hot enough water to be effective, you > would scald your hands, unless you wear gloves. > This is why I wear rubber gloves to wash up, but of course I do this > after almost every meal..... > Fact 3 - These hands, which have given so much pleasure to a few special > women, are not to be roughened by menial tasks...... > Gordon I've washed dishes in cold soapy water while camping and I've lived to tell about it. I think the important thing is to rinse them well. I wash dishes and pots every day without rubber gloves. I use reasonably hot water. My hands are soft and unaffected by the soap and water. I use a detergent called "Dawn". I do make use of the dishwasher as well. It all depends on how many dishes need to be washed. ---Sea, making sparkling conversation. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <28039-3F971B5D-61@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQ53fr90v5cDd1ybMmjHbzPMcrK6wIVAMjQi6ElF8+wobEkoS4+hNvPkWJn Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 194 Lines: 4 bob - yes, most American Jews do vote liberal. However, there has been a trend away from that,and, it seems, more are turning to the conservative side; yet,certainly not the majority.====Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <28038-3F971C63-107@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQsTpOIgKDTWoxHN8Dfptn2dbH4nwIUZuFK+YBZJ48s02LRN1nemvoEc14= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 264 Lines: 6 Gordon - - and as the temperature was "easing upwards", so was he - - and he swept her into his arms, but, alas, her circumference was too huge to allow him a full embrace - so he dropped her again - took out his hankie, and waved good-bye. My plan C!!!!====Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <28038-3F971D69-108@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUApjBMLxjRWg7aS77Ki4DVX59pXc8CFCljQF3V13NQXf5EA56HVkErod12 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 119 Lines: 4 Gordon - pray tell me,what is a "great tits"?? It sure takes on a different meaning while crossing the ocean!!! Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <28038-3F971E9A-109@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAk5td+xbRSuYWS2BivM7ICRGpXVgCFBM2g7fVQxefCBvN09NU1+QmUBl+ Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 33 Lines: 2 Rod - where did you go??===Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: The President Speaks. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:25:50 GMT Message-ID: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-106.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.106) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066875953 31265542 203.87.44.106 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1584 Lines: 34 I have just watched the President of the United States of America address the Australian Parliament. In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard him make. Which leads me to wonder whether the cutting by the media and the presentation of 'snippets' of political speeches, really reflects the actual content of the them. Taking perhaps much of it out of context. This time I saw it as it was happening.... The Opposition did not wear white armbands but chose to present a letter to Mr Bush. Two senators did interject and were removed from the House by the seargent at arms....they returned after the speech finished and Mr Bush was shaking hands with various senators....they were ejected a second time. Mr Bush did receive a standing ovation - but I personally think it was an off-the-cuff remark that gave him the edge. During the second interjection he grinned and said...."I love free speech"...... this remark was met with a most enthusiastic and spontaneous round of applause and one could almost feel the tension in the house relax. Whether you approve of him or not....he undeniably acquitted himself well. The content was neither more nor less than was expected dealing as it did with the war in Iraq, the fight against terrorism and the long and historic association between Australia and the US. A nice touch was the naming of the SAS Sergeant who was killed in Afghanistan and the announcement that he would be laying a wreath in his honour this afternoon. Just thought you would like to get an Australian point of view... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: The President Speaks. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <78Hlb.189834$0v4.14694715@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:35:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.67 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066876547 32.103.153.67 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:35:47 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:35:47 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2496 Lines: 48 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net... > I have just watched the President of the United States of America > address the Australian Parliament. > In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard > him make. Which leads me to wonder whether the cutting by the media > and the presentation of 'snippets' of political speeches, really > reflects the actual content of the them. Taking perhaps much of it > out of context. This time I saw it as it was happening.... > The Opposition did not wear white armbands but chose to present a > letter to Mr Bush. > Two senators did interject and were removed from the House by the > seargent at arms....they returned after the speech finished and Mr > Bush was shaking hands with various senators....they were ejected a > second time. > Mr Bush did receive a standing ovation - but I personally think it was > an off-the-cuff remark that gave him the edge. During the second > interjection he grinned and said...."I love free speech"...... this > remark was met with a most enthusiastic and spontaneous round of > applause and one could almost feel the tension in the house relax. > Whether you approve of him or not....he undeniably acquitted himself > well. > The content was neither more nor less than was expected dealing as it > did with the war in Iraq, the fight against terrorism and the long and > historic association between Australia and the US. > A nice touch was the naming of the SAS Sergeant who was killed in > Afghanistan and the announcement that he would be laying a wreath in > his honour this afternoon. > > Just thought you would like to get an Australian point of view... > > jingles I certainly appreciate this view, Jingles. Of course all his speeches are written for him. He probably has a team of writers, and some of them write better speeches than others. His speeches definitely approved after the September 11 attacks. I suspect a number of factors were involved. In the past, I don't think he particularly cared if he got a word or two wrong, which resulted in some pretty funny bloopers. All of a sudden, things were dead serious, and he decided to pay attention. Also, someone suggested that his speech writers learned to modify the speeches according to his normal vocabulary, rather than throwing in a lot of words he isn't comfortable using. At any rate, I'm glad he acquitted himself well while away from home. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:39:49 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <28038-3F971D69-108@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 385 Lines: 17 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:14:33 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >Gordon - pray tell me,what is a "great tits"?? It sure takes on a >different meaning while crossing the ocean!!! >Olly See. http://www.rspb.org.uk/birds/guide/g/greattit/ -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:46 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:58:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:58:41 -0700 From: Paul Conley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.209.18.170 X-Trace: sv3-4mb0W1PZN7yQkYxJ6zlOQ4JQYXFHEw07W+e/UcCihTlCJwyizVrcoKrZJK45sa0Xx4DlpHPT9R0H2BI!g/FEyApmKdrwPFoixT924WOTKJLzuPObI7BFEtxxAT9RaevnDUTEiWgsm5Hbh6UkegztXYEweA45!pA2p X-Complaints-To: abuse@inreach.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@inreach.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Status: O Content-Length: 289 Lines: 13 Bush no more wrote that speech than I wrote the Declaration of Independence. Paul jingles wrote: > I have just watched the President of the United States of America > address the Australian Parliament. > In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard > him make. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 04:16:43 GMT Message-ID: <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-106.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.106) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066882606 31275789 203.87.44.106 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 737 Lines: 29 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:58:41 -0700, Paul Conley wrote: >Bush no more wrote that speech than I wrote the Declaration of >Independence. > >Paul I am quite aware of that Paul....but he did deliver it and the off -the-cuff remark was not written into the script....because the interjection could not have been anticipated.... In Australia we like to feel that credit is given where credit is due.... Shakespeare wrote the Merchant of Venice, but it is the actor who gets the accolades.... jingles > > >jingles wrote: > >> I have just watched the President of the United States of America >> address the Australian Parliament. >> In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard >> him make. > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bd.ravenhill@virgin.net (B D Ravenhill) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: 23 Oct 2003 01:55:03 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.106.59.156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066899303 29512 127.0.0.1 (23 Oct 2003 08:55:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 871 Lines: 16 Does anyone remember Ivy Benson and Her "All Girl Band" which ran for over 40 years, from 1939 to 1982 and had 250+ girl musicians passing through over that period. They played on Radio during the War Years, toured in Europe and the Middle East and many will remember the Summer Seasons at the Villa Marina Gardens on the Isle of Man in the late 50's/early 60's, when up to 6000 visitors would relax in their deckchairs to listen to an afternoon of excellent musical entertainment. Ivy passed away in May 1993 in Clacton on Sea where she had retired. Little of the history of this unique UK band has been available, but I have now developed a website to celebrate them. I am always looking for stories, photos and memorabilia connected to this band - can you help? You can see the site at www.ivybenson-online.com - I hope you enjoy it and maybe I will hear from you. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Oh Well" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Midwelt USA Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 04:17:11 -0500 Organization: Sprint Advanced Network Services Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.109.105.68 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.utelfla.com 1066900638 1725 63.109.105.68 (23 Oct 2003 09:17:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.utelfla.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:17:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Status: O Content-Length: 2811 Lines: 53 Picked this up in a newsletter IN AN EFFORT TO HELP OUTSIDERS UNDERSTAND THE MIDWEST UNITED STATES, THE FOLLOWING LIST WILL BE HANDED TO EACH DRIVER ENTERING THE AREA: 1. That farm boy standing next to the feed bin did more work before breakfast than you do all week at the gym. 2. It's called a 'gravel road'. No matter how slow you drive, you're going to get dust on your SUV. I have a four-wheel drive because I need it. Drive it or get it out of the way. 3. We all started hunting and fishing when we were seven years old. Yeah, we saw Bambi. We got over it. 4. Any references to "corn fed" when talking about our women will get you whipped... by our women. 5. Go ahead and bring your $600 Orvis Fly Rod. Don't cry to us if a flathead catfish breaks it off at the handle. We have a name for those little trout you fish for...bait. 6. Pull your pants up. You look like an idiot. 7. If that cell phone rings while a bunch of mallards are making approach, we will shoot it. You might hope you don't have it up to your ear at the time. 8. That's right. Whiskey is only two bucks. We can buy a fifth for what you paid in the airport for one drink. 9. No, there's no "Vegetarian Special" on the menu. Order a steak. Order it rare. Or, you can order the Chef's Salad and pick off the two pounds of ham and turkey. 10. You can bring Coke into my house but it better be brown, wet, and served over ice. 11. So you have a sixty-thousand dollar car you drive on weekends. We're real impressed. We have quarter of a million dollar combines that we use two weeks a year. 12. Let's get this straight. We have one stoplight in town. We stop when it's red. We may even stop when it's yellow. 13. Our women hunt, fish, and drive trucks - because they want to. So, you're a feminist. Isn't that cute. 14. Yeah, we eat catfish. Carp, too - and turtle. You really want sushi and caviar? It's available at the bait shop. 15. They are pigs. That's what they smell like. Get over it. Don't like it? Interstate 70, 80 & 90 go two ways. Interstate 29, 35, & 75 go the other two. Pick one and use it accordingly. 16. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a religious holiday. You can get breakfast at the church. 17. So every person in every pickup waves. It's called being friendly. Understand the concept? 18. Yeah, we have golf courses. Don't hit the ball into the water hazard. It spooks the fish. 19. That Highway Patrol Officer that just pulled you over for driving like an idiot, his name is, "Sir"... no matter how old he is. Now, enjoy your visit and go home. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Oh Well" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 04:25:52 -0500 Organization: Sprint Advanced Network Services Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.109.105.68 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.utelfla.com 1066901159 2083 63.109.105.68 (23 Oct 2003 09:25:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.utelfla.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:25:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Status: O Content-Length: 1240 Lines: 41 Geeze you liberals, how 'bout cutting us a little slack. Your = complaints about President Bush's speech can be applied to all = presidents at least in the modern era. We (conservatives) know how you = feel about any of us, but don't make it so obvious, ok. Your imagination and intelligence is not showing. Oh Well.......... jingles wrote in message = news:3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net... | On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:58:41 -0700, Paul Conley | wrote: |=20 | >Bush no more wrote that speech than I wrote the Declaration of | >Independence. | > | >Paul |=20 | I am quite aware of that Paul....but he did deliver it and the off | -the-cuff remark was not written into the script....because the | interjection could not have been anticipated.... | In Australia we like to feel that credit is given where credit is | due.... | Shakespeare wrote the Merchant of Venice, but it is the actor who | gets the accolades.... |=20 | jingles |=20 |=20 | > | > | >jingles wrote: | > | >> I have just watched the President of the United States of America | >> address the Australian Parliament. | >> In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard | >> him make. | > |=20 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:42:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: <28038-3F971C63-107@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066907687 25363 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 11:14:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:14:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 494 Lines: 12 Olly Mensch wrote >Gordon - - and as the temperature was "easing upwards", so was he - - >and he swept her into his arms, but, alas, her circumference was too >huge to allow him a full embrace - so he dropped her again - took out >his hankie, and waved good-bye. As he pulled out the hanky, his keys came out with it, and dropped down the drain, to be lost for ever. The fat lady, being a jolly person, laughed out loud, but with no malice, you understand...... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:51:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> <3f97022f.6229007@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066907689 25363 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 11:14:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:14:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 620 Lines: 22 jingles wrote >On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:52:16 +0100, Gordon >wrote: >>> >>"That don' impress me much - >>Doo-doo, doo-wahhh"... >> >>I don't think either have the same effect on me as Shania, or Cher, or >>Kylie or Madonna . . . . >>-- >>Gordon > >I notice that each and every one of them reduces their gear to a >minimum one of them actually sings I believe.... >jingles > Kylie is lightweight, I suppose, but the others have talent beyond removing their clothes. ;-) They are all good at what they do, which is what it is all about... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:53:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> <735-3F95E9EF-314@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <3f9702ca.6383991@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066907691 25363 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 11:14:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:14:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 189 Lines: 10 jingles wrote > >I'm not giving you an argument but I do wish Blair would >change his hairdresser..... > >jingles Can't say I've noticed.... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:57:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066907693 25363 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 11:14:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:14:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 628 Lines: 26 jingles wrote >On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: > >>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod > >Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... > >What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the >legendary asp....? > >jingles >> He may have misunderstood this from you: ******** "And a Merry Christmas to you too Rod..... One of the mindless blatherers....." ******** Might have thought you meant *him*, whereas we all know you're the M.B. in your remark! Sensitive fellow! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:58:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <28038-3F971E9A-109@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066907694 25363 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 11:14:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:14:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 126 Lines: 8 Olly Mensch wrote >Rod - where did you go??===Olly > You want him? I'll go fetch him for you. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:03:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <28038-3F971D69-108@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066907695 25363 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 11:14:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:14:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 535 Lines: 18 Olly Mensch wrote >Gordon - pray tell me,what is a "great tits"?? It sure takes on a >different meaning while crossing the ocean!!! >Olly > You tell me what it means over there and I'll tell you what it means over here! It is small, plump bird, with a black 'cap' and a yellow breast which has a black stripe down it. They come after the peanuts I hang in feeders in my garden in winter, when natural food is scarce. You might find one here: http://www.birdsofbritain.co.uk/bird-guide/index.htm -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:12:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066907696 25363 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 11:14:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:14:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 444 Lines: 13 Oh Well wrote >Geeze you liberals, how 'bout cutting us a little slack. Your complaints about >President Bush's speech can be applied to all presidents at least in the modern >era. We (conservatives) know how you feel about any of us, but don't make it so >obvious, ok. > >Your imagination and intelligence is not showing. > Here we go again......... (I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:45 +0100 Message-ID: <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066910119 31205750 217.137.174.51 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1214 Lines: 29 On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:27:29 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:41:49 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com >(Jeanette S.) wrote: > >>jingles, carrying the can wrote: "I find that where such serious topics >>are concerned 'face to face' discussions are better. There is not the >>same temptation to 'blow up' as there is on a newsgroup - there is not >>the same anonymity to hide behind... >>Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on Iraq >>fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking to each >>other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to blows.... >>My daughter is married to an American, my son is Australian. =A0 A >>second son walked out on the argument and told them both to 'drop >>dead'..... >>So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your >>leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... >>jingles - who now has to carry the can. >>***************************************** >>I'm with you. BYW, what do you have in your can? Jeanette > >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... > >jingles >> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. Lanky. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:47 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:47 +0100 Message-ID: References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066910121 31205750 217.137.174.51 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1162 Lines: 25 On 23 Oct 2003 01:55:03 -0700, bd.ravenhill@virgin.net (B D Ravenhill) wrote: >Does anyone remember Ivy Benson and Her "All Girl Band" which ran for >over 40 years, from 1939 to 1982 and had 250+ girl musicians passing >through over that period. They played on Radio during the War Years, >toured in Europe and the Middle East and many will remember the Summer >Seasons at the Villa Marina Gardens on the Isle of Man in the late >50's/early 60's, when up to 6000 visitors would relax in their >deckchairs to listen to an afternoon of excellent musical >entertainment. > >Ivy passed away in May 1993 in Clacton on Sea where she had retired. > >Little of the history of this unique UK band has been available, but I >have now developed a website to celebrate them. I am always looking >for stories, photos and memorabilia connected to this band - can you >help? You can see the site at www.ivybenson-online.com - I hope you >enjoy it and maybe I will hear from you. I certainly remember Ivy Benson, she was born in Leeds, a sharp cookie who stood no messing! Although retired in Clacton she was a very popular organist there. Lanky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Midwelt USA Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:48 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066910123 31205750 217.137.174.51 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 2978 Lines: 59 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 04:17:11 -0500, "Oh Well" wrote: >Picked this up in a newsletter > > IN AN EFFORT TO HELP OUTSIDERS UNDERSTAND THE MIDWEST UNITED > STATES, THE FOLLOWING LIST WILL BE HANDED TO EACH DRIVER > ENTERING THE AREA: > > 1. That farm boy standing next to the feed bin did more work > before breakfast than you do all week at the gym. > 2. It's called a 'gravel road'. No matter how slow you drive, > you're going to get dust on your SUV. I have a four-wheel drive > because I need it. Drive it or get it out of the way. > 3. We all started hunting and fishing when we were seven years > old. Yeah, we saw Bambi. We got over it. > 4. Any references to "corn fed" when talking about our women > will get you whipped... by our women. > 5. Go ahead and bring your $600 Orvis Fly Rod. Don't cry to us > if a flathead catfish breaks it off at the handle. We have a > name for those little trout you fish for...bait. > 6. Pull your pants up. You look like an idiot. > 7. If that cell phone rings while a bunch of mallards are > making approach, we will shoot it. You might hope you don't > have it up to your ear at the time. > 8. That's right. Whiskey is only two bucks. We can buy a fifth > for what you paid in the airport for one drink. > 9. No, there's no "Vegetarian Special" on the menu. Order a > steak. Order it rare. Or, you can order the Chef's Salad and > pick off the two pounds of ham and turkey. > 10. You can bring Coke into my house but it better be brown, > wet, and served over ice. > 11. So you have a sixty-thousand dollar car you drive on > weekends. We're real impressed. We have quarter of a million > dollar combines that we use two weeks a year. > 12. Let's get this straight. We have one stoplight in town. We > stop when it's red. We may even stop when it's yellow. > 13. Our women hunt, fish, and drive trucks - because they want > to. So, you're a feminist. Isn't that cute. > 14. Yeah, we eat catfish. Carp, too - and turtle. You really > want sushi and caviar? It's available at the bait shop. > 15. They are pigs. That's what they smell like. Get over it. > Don't like it? Interstate 70, 80 & 90 go two ways. Interstate > 29, 35, & 75 go the other two. Pick one and use it accordingly. > 16. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a > religious holiday. You can get breakfast at the church. > 17. So every person in every pickup waves. It's called being > friendly. Understand the concept? > 18. Yeah, we have golf courses. Don't hit the ball into the > water hazard. It spooks the fish. > 19. That Highway Patrol Officer that just pulled you over for > driving like an idiot, his name is, "Sir"... no matter how old > he is. > > Now, enjoy your visit and go home. Where exactly is this place? Lanky. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Midwelt USA Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:43:00 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19062-3F97E8F4-92@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAimYLZ8gpg7KoJe525O8M6JPQKpgCFHAIzue+NWKQMMOqyUZcTStdxln9 Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 1220 Lines: 24 Oh well wrote: IN AN EFFORT TO HELP OUTSIDERS UNDERSTAND THE MIDWEST UNITED =A0 =A0 STATES, THE FOLLOWING LIST WILL BE HANDED TO EACH DRIVER =A0 =A0 ENTERING THE AREA: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01. That farm boy standing next to the feed bin did more work =A0 =A0 before breakfast than you do all week at the gym. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02. It's called a 'gravel road'. No matter how slow you drive, =A0 =A0 you're going to get dust on your SUV. I have a four-wheel drive =A0 =A0 because I need it. Drive it or get it out of the way. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A03. We all started hunting and fishing when we were seven years =A0 =A0 old. Yeah, we saw Bambi. We got over it. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A04. Any references to "corn fed" when talking about our women =A0 =A0 will get you whipped... by our women. (Snipped) to which Lanky replied: Where exactly is this place? ********************************************** Sounds like Texas, and I vote we adopt it for our own! But, it is in the midwestern states of the U.S., Missouri (the show-me state), Kansas, Illinois, Iowa, maybe Nebraska and Indiana. Look at an Atlas of maps for the U.S. and it is in the middle. Pretty cute, huh? Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:47:52 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <19061-3F97EA18-233@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAvE5If6XBWTmYzsHVtwxVD220B/UCFQCGZoBHAleCoOOXlfP71xQ1M1Z/uA== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 120 Lines: 5 bob wrote: ""Contentious" being defined as?????????? cheers" ************************************** Testy? Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: bforester Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Midwelt USA Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:52:01 -0300 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blk3-67-177.eastlink.ca (24.215.67.177) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066920717 31784875 24.215.67.177 (16 [208835]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 3206 Lines: 66 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:48 +0100, Lanky wrote: >On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 04:17:11 -0500, "Oh Well" >wrote: > >>Picked this up in a newsletter >> >> IN AN EFFORT TO HELP OUTSIDERS UNDERSTAND THE MIDWEST UNITED >> STATES, THE FOLLOWING LIST WILL BE HANDED TO EACH DRIVER >> ENTERING THE AREA: >> >> 1. That farm boy standing next to the feed bin did more work >> before breakfast than you do all week at the gym. >> 2. It's called a 'gravel road'. No matter how slow you drive, >> you're going to get dust on your SUV. I have a four-wheel drive >> because I need it. Drive it or get it out of the way. >> 3. We all started hunting and fishing when we were seven years >> old. Yeah, we saw Bambi. We got over it. >> 4. Any references to "corn fed" when talking about our women >> will get you whipped... by our women. >> 5. Go ahead and bring your $600 Orvis Fly Rod. Don't cry to us >> if a flathead catfish breaks it off at the handle. We have a >> name for those little trout you fish for...bait. >> 6. Pull your pants up. You look like an idiot. >> 7. If that cell phone rings while a bunch of mallards are >> making approach, we will shoot it. You might hope you don't >> have it up to your ear at the time. >> 8. That's right. Whiskey is only two bucks. We can buy a fifth >> for what you paid in the airport for one drink. >> 9. No, there's no "Vegetarian Special" on the menu. Order a >> steak. Order it rare. Or, you can order the Chef's Salad and >> pick off the two pounds of ham and turkey. >> 10. You can bring Coke into my house but it better be brown, >> wet, and served over ice. >> 11. So you have a sixty-thousand dollar car you drive on >> weekends. We're real impressed. We have quarter of a million >> dollar combines that we use two weeks a year. >> 12. Let's get this straight. We have one stoplight in town. We >> stop when it's red. We may even stop when it's yellow. >> 13. Our women hunt, fish, and drive trucks - because they want >> to. So, you're a feminist. Isn't that cute. >> 14. Yeah, we eat catfish. Carp, too - and turtle. You really >> want sushi and caviar? It's available at the bait shop. >> 15. They are pigs. That's what they smell like. Get over it. >> Don't like it? Interstate 70, 80 & 90 go two ways. Interstate >> 29, 35, & 75 go the other two. Pick one and use it accordingly. >> 16. The "Opener" refers to the first day of deer season. It's a >> religious holiday. You can get breakfast at the church. >> 17. So every person in every pickup waves. It's called being >> friendly. Understand the concept? >> 18. Yeah, we have golf courses. Don't hit the ball into the >> water hazard. It spooks the fish. >> 19. That Highway Patrol Officer that just pulled you over for >> driving like an idiot, his name is, "Sir"... no matter how old >> he is. >> >> Now, enjoy your visit and go home. > >Where exactly is this place? > >Lanky. Yes, please tell me, so that I can steer clear of it. Boy, those folks are defensive. :-) Paul From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <5c94pvc523o1lflcpgadneeqpqptdmojm8@4ax.com> <735-3F95A235-252@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:18:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.159 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066922326 171.75.14.159 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:46 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:46 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 602 Lines: 17 "Olly Mensch" wrote in message news:735-3F95A235-252@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Eugene - I must have a severe identity crisis - now I am Oilly (!!) - as > if Olly is not bad enough - and that is not my real name. Gordon and I > have a love/hate relationship; I don't know what happened to the first > part?!! Who cares!! > There are bigger things to worry about. > See you later - - Olly (no oil - the oil is all in Iraq!!!!!!!) Perhaps we should stop importing oil from the Middle East and suck Alaska dry. Caribou can't hijack airplanes. grin cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310200949.10897e33@posting.google.com> <1961e432.0310210838.73ad8b85@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:18:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.159 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066922328 171.75.14.159 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:48 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:48 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 2561 Lines: 72 "Lady Dagon" wrote in message news:1961e432.0310210838.73ad8b85@posting.google.com... > Jan wrote in message news:... > > On 20 Oct 2003 10:49:14 -0700, ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote: > > > > >Fay wrote in message news:... > > >> ladydagon@yahoo.com (Lady Dagon) wrote in > > >> news:1961e432.0310181033.6a90a704@posting.google.com: > > >> > > >> > The general said it. He smeared himself. The media just reported it. > > >> > He also got it wrong. Allah is the same god that Christians and > > >> > Jewish worship. His God is Allah by another name. > > >> > > >> My God doesn't run a virgin whore house with 72 virgin whores for men that > > >> kill infidels. > > > > > > > > >True. Nowadays Christians leaders rape little boys or kill them > > >during prayer groups. > > > > Probably not all of them. > > > > > >Do you know about the Crusades? > > > > Any particular one of the seven? Starting in 1095 and lasting for > > about 250 years. > > > > >The Inquistion? > > > > Which one? There were three operating in Spain, France and Italy. I > > believe one of them lasted until the 19th century. Starting in 1231 > > > > >The Salem Witch Trials? > > > > A truly home-grown one for the US. 1692 wasn't it? > > > > > >Or are you Jewish? > > > > Or would you rather be a fish? > > > > As these are all somewhat ancient history is it alright if I start a > > thread about the invasions of Britain by the Romans, Norse first then > > Norse again? Totally unprovoked attacks which should be condemned. > > > Ah, time heals all wounds. I bet that was a lot of comfort to those > innocents centuries ago who were tortured and hanged and burned alive. > > Islam is a realitive young religion, especially compared to > Chrsitianity. Christianity at the same age as Islam is currently was > widely doing the same horrible things that Islam extremists are now > doing. 0nly in Christianity case, it was official church policy. > > Christians need to realize this. They need to remember their religion > was once as guilt of many of the same evil things some Muslims are > doing today who believe in Islam. This is not for the Christians to > condone it, but rather that they need to remember their hands were > once has equally bloody, if not more so. > This is true. We had our reformation. Islam has not...yet. However, this doesn't make being their target more palatable. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <736-3F959799-96@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:18:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.159 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066922328 171.75.14.159 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:48 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:48 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 376 Lines: 14 "Olly Mensch" wrote in message news:736-3F959799-96@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Bob - you wrote that life is to be experienced, not a mystery to be > solved. I feel those two are not mutually exclusive.====Olly > Perhaps not. Yet......there are those who're so busy seeking the "mystery" that they don't live their lives. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Four Legged Chicken X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:18:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.159 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066922329 171.75.14.159 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:49 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:49 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 730 Lines: 24 There was once an agricultural salesman who, when driving down a rural road, noticed a chicken pacing him at about 40 mph. He sped up to 60 and the chicken stayed with him. Then, the chicken sped up and left him in the dust. A bit later, the chicken turned into a farm. The salesman, thinking "This I gotta see.", followed the chicken. He pulled up to the farmer who was in the front yard and said, "Man, that's gotta be the fastest chicken I ever saw". The farmer replied, "Yep. I've developed a four legged chicken. I figured that, since everybody loves drumsticks, they'd fetch a premium price." The salesman asked, "How do they taste? The farmer replied, "I dunno. I've never been able to catch one." grin bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <736-3F95A953-105@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:18:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.159 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1066922329 171.75.14.159 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:49 PDT) robobt@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:18:49 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 882 Lines: 25 "Olly Mensch" wrote in message news:736-3F95A953-105@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net... > bob - I read the story in the paper about these Muslim women coming here > to have their babies, and then return. It raises my hackles - yes, they > DO get free care. And free (emergency) care is available to all poor > people - but it is limited and uneven. The system desperately needs > some changes. I cannot argue with that. I have never been able to find a copy or description of > the system which Hillary Clinton had been trying to set up at the time. > Regardless of how one feels about Hillary (ugh!!) but I heard it was a > very comprehensive, all-inclusive (and probably prohibitively expensive) > plan, but most felt it was unwieldy and not workable. But I never heard > any details. > I don't remember any details of it either. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <3754-3F97F3FE-89@storefull-2313.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <19061-3F97EA18-233@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRM7KanD8FTJLbR7/e4Qqd2gOQNUAIVAMRRid4L6uNv8/uBaUWdeqY3XrIO Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 169 Lines: 4 Jeanette - no, it is something other than "testy" - - I would guess that Gordon sees "contentious" as being any statement which differs from his political views.==Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <3753-3F97F5D3-244@storefull-2313.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQcDAc3u+ubULWQVHIWOuZMFjZvQgIVAI3O1UobLirxZMqui9GlPAGyIgyh Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 709 Lines: 13 jingles - I cannot begin to tell you how much I appreciate your kind and objective desciption of Bush's speech in Australia. Bush does have a lot of dissent , including in our own country here, as well as in yours, and all across Europe. Whether his policies are good or not will probably be debated until long after he is gone. I have mixed feelings about it, but am NOT one of the Bush bashers. Incidentally, he does have a very nice, quick, spontaneous sense of humor. He is not a very good speaker, but his prepared speeches are, of course, someone else's writing, and his thoughts.==It is so refreshing to run into someone (you!) who is able to take a step back, and arrive at a fair judgement. Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <3753-3F97F65C-245@storefull-2313.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhR0oqkG1xl0tShLr2CMBqJtV20nuwIUALeWARgifKwYsfAgzWt7J59/UHs= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 177 Lines: 4 Paul - no one claims that Bush wrote that speech; All public figures have speech writers. Yet, obviously, those speeches are read and approved or not, by the speaker.====Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <3754-3F97F6EA-90@storefull-2313.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAlKCTiPT/czv+MHF8SrgGxFdGxBcCFF/YJAtx5ZsJ1Fco/HnVNHawcUJD Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 146 Lines: 4 Gordon - au contraire - - as you once said - - I, for one, am so glad she did bother, since it was a very fair and unbiased observation.====Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:48 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:01:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> <3f960e0b.21587707@news.individual.net> <3f96fd10.4917086@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: m153-mp1.cvx1-a.man.dial.ntli.net (62.252.196.153) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066924878 30079311 62.252.196.153 (16 [155445]) X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Status: O Content-Length: 1766 Lines: 48 In article <3f96fd10.4917086@news.individual.net>, ophelia@netconnect.com.au says... > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" > wrote: > > > > >> > > >> >I was told to wear it all the time when I first got it and only take it > >off > >> >when sitting still. I even had one for night wear. > >> >Then I got to thinking that my muscles would go slack through > >> >lack of use so I only wear it on transport because travelling > >> >over bumps and hard braking is painful. I still do my neck > >> >exercises to keep the muscle tone and I do have a special neck > >> >roll for night. Sometimes I have to resort to my night collar. > >> >I have two & half discs missing so the vertebra are fused, > >> >I have the same prob with my lower back and a steel corset, > >> >but that's another story. :-) > >> > > >> >>^..^< > >> > >> Fusing the verterbrae is apparently not an option for me.... > >> so I have to make the best of it....With a little help from my friends > >> > >> > >> jingles > >> > >> >***** > > > >It wasn't an option for me either, mother nature did it > >all by herself. I was offered an op: but it was only a 30% chance of sucess > >or it might even make it worse. I'm not > >so much green as cabbage looking, operating in the neck > > area, surgeon sneezes, paralysed from neck down, I don't > >think so, I'll put up with the pain, I still enjoy my walks. > > > >>^..^< > > I tend to feel the same way ..... when the Grim Reaper calls, I want > to be on my feet and running > When the Grim Reaper calls I want to be out :-) -- Mike Clayton Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:25:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3F9800E8.E9EC9EC4@batnet.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:25:29 -0700 From: Paul Conley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.209.19.84 X-Trace: sv3-LMTS24wD2MmzxqMlzRsebuEnwp90w4TqVzXCZfCHROeoFvkTlnfXco4Z1K1WGR/dRINh888qq0xgOA1!O06psA66yflmN8HffjKrep3mO+Busig5xEiVaF5NWbq4Zys1Wn6Cqfsc9+kCAmlfsmzC/zpy3MLz!fow= X-Complaints-To: abuse@inreach.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@inreach.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Status: O Content-Length: 1103 Lines: 41 jingles, I would never be foolish enough to enter into a dispute with the 'godmother' of this group. You're too precious. As Bush, however, was making his "I love freedom of speech!" remark, it should noted that the person speaking out against him was being physcially removed from the hall. Paul jingles wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:58:41 -0700, Paul Conley > wrote: > > >Bush no more wrote that speech than I wrote the Declaration of > >Independence. > > > >Paul > > I am quite aware of that Paul....but he did deliver it and the off > -the-cuff remark was not written into the script....because the > interjection could not have been anticipated.... > In Australia we like to feel that credit is given where credit is > due.... > Shakespeare wrote the Merchant of Venice, but it is the actor who > gets the accolades.... > > jingles > > > > > > >jingles wrote: > > > >> I have just watched the President of the United States of America > >> address the Australian Parliament. > >> In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard > >> him make. > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Midwelt USA Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:33:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19062-3F97E8F4-92@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.68 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066926911 32350936 217.137.174.68 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 468 Lines: 12 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:43:00 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Sounds like Texas, and I vote we adopt it for our own! But, it is in >the midwestern states of the U.S., Missouri (the show-me state), Kansas, >Illinois, Iowa, maybe Nebraska and Indiana. Look at an Atlas of maps >for the U.S. and it is in the middle. Pretty cute, huh? Jeanette If you do adopt in for your own, I'm sure the other states will be most grateful. LOL Lanky. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:54:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19061-3F97EA18-233@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066937671 20790 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 19:34:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:34:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 230 Lines: 9 Jeanette S. wrote >bob wrote: ""Contentious" being defined as?????????? >cheers" >************************************** >Testy? Jeanette > Controversial. Ain't you guys got a dictionary? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:55:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19061-3F97EA18-233@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3754-3F97F3FE-89@storefull-2313.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066937673 20790 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 19:34:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 330 Lines: 11 Olly Mensch wrote >Jeanette - no, it is something other than "testy" - - I would guess that >Gordon sees "contentious" as being any statement which differs from his >political views.==Olly > I refer you to your dictionary. Lotte, you really do try people's patience with repeated personal attacks. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Midwelt USA Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19062-3F97E8F4-92@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.68 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066932104 31654525 217.137.174.68 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1235 Lines: 30 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:43:00 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Oh well wrote: >IN AN EFFORT TO HELP OUTSIDERS UNDERSTAND THE MIDWEST UNITED     >STATES, THE FOLLOWING LIST WILL BE HANDED TO EACH DRIVER     >ENTERING THE AREA: >          1. That farm boy standing next to the feed >bin did more work     before breakfast than you do all week at the >gym. >          2. It's called a 'gravel road'. No matter >how slow you drive,     you're going to get dust on your SUV. I have >a four-wheel drive     because I need it. Drive it or get it out of >the way. >          3. We all started hunting and fishing when >we were seven years     old. Yeah, we saw Bambi. We got over it. >          4. Any references to "corn fed" when >talking about our women     will get you whipped... by our women. >(Snipped) >to which Lanky replied: >Where exactly is this place? >********************************************** >Sounds like Texas, and I vote we adopt it for our own! But, it is in >the midwestern states of the U.S., Missouri (the show-me state), Kansas, >Illinois, Iowa, maybe Nebraska and Indiana. Look at an Atlas of maps >for the U.S. and it is in the middle. Pretty cute, huh? Jeanette Yup. Lanky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066937674 20790 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 19:34:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:34:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1040 Lines: 31 jingles wrote >On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: > >>> >>> One of the mindless blatherers..... >>> >>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless >>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... >>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... >>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice >>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the >>> location....... >>> >>> jingles >>> >> >>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod > >Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... > >What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the >legendary asp....? > >jingles Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it ignominiously! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:04:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3F9800E8.E9EC9EC4@batnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066937676 20790 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 19:34:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:34:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 466 Lines: 17 Paul Conley wrote >jingles, > >I would never be foolish enough to enter into a dispute with the >'godmother' of this group. You're too precious. > >As Bush, however, was making his "I love freedom of speech!" remark, it >should noted that the person speaking out against him was being >physcially removed from the hall. > >Paul > Quite! That is not free speech, it is the suppression of it. Did anyone hear what the heckler said? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <5c94pvc523o1lflcpgadneeqpqptdmojm8@4ax.com> <735-3F95A235-252@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:32:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.69 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066933929 32.103.153.69 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:32:09 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:32:09 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 802 Lines: 27 "Bob Thomas" wrote in message news:qjSlb.2869$wc3.101@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > "Olly Mensch" wrote in message > news:735-3F95A235-252@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net... > > Eugene - I must have a severe identity crisis - now I am Oilly (!!) - as > > if Olly is not bad enough - and that is not my real name. Gordon and I > > have a love/hate relationship; I don't know what happened to the first > > part?!! Who cares!! > > There are bigger things to worry about. > > See you later - - Olly (no oil - the oil is all in Iraq!!!!!!!) > > Perhaps we should stop importing oil from the Middle East and suck Alaska > dry. Caribou can't hijack airplanes. grin > > cheers > > bob True, but you need to watch out for those moose. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <19061-3F97EA18-233@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:45:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.130 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1066938321 32.103.153.130 (Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:45:21 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:45:21 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 504 Lines: 19 "Gordon" wrote in message news:exNPXLAHXBm$EwEP@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Jeanette S. wrote > >bob wrote: ""Contentious" being defined as?????????? > >cheers" > >************************************** > >Testy? Jeanette > > > Controversial. Ain't you guys got a dictionary? > -- > Gordon One can be controversial without being contentious. I think a closer definition for contentious would be argumentative, and/or possibly confrontational. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:01:21 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19061-3F97EA18-233@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066943815 16376 194.222.103.116 (23 Oct 2003 21:16:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:16:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 687 Lines: 23 Yoj wrote >"Gordon" wrote in message >news:exNPXLAHXBm$EwEP@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> Jeanette S. wrote >> >bob wrote: ""Contentious" being defined as?????????? >> >cheers" >> >************************************** >> >Testy? Jeanette >> > >> Controversial. Ain't you guys got a dictionary? >> -- >> Gordon > >One can be controversial without being contentious. I think a closer >definition for contentious would be argumentative, and/or possibly >confrontational. > >Joy > Fair enough. In fact, contentious was the word I used, and your meaning was what I meant, looking back at the context. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f95ceae.5364161@news.individual.net> <3f96fea7.5324094@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-118-139.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1066948134 2786 81.131.118.139 (23 Oct 2003 22:28:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 517 Lines: 21 > >It gripes me hearing about all these 'sprightly 85 year olds'. > >I'm 70 soon and my sprightliness is hanging by a thread... > >-- > >Gordon > > Don't you think it is odd that these sprightly 85 year olds only > appear in jokes.....? gives you something to think about.... > Hang in there Gordon.... > > jingles We have an 87 year old in our walking group, (come to think of it I am the baby of the group) all are women apart from Bill who is 85. Maybe it's mainly us gals that are sprightly? >^..^< ***** > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> <3f960e0b.21587707@news.individual.net> <3f96fd10.4917086@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-118-139.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1066948136 2786 81.131.118.139 (23 Oct 2003 22:28:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 2018 Lines: 62 "Mike Clayton" wrote in message news:MPG.1a020ba97a586ab49896a0@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > In article <3f96fd10.4917086@news.individual.net>, > ophelia@netconnect.com.au says... > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >I was told to wear it all the time when I first got it and only take it > > >off > > >> >when sitting still. I even had one for night wear. > > >> >Then I got to thinking that my muscles would go slack through > > >> >lack of use so I only wear it on transport because travelling > > >> >over bumps and hard braking is painful. I still do my neck > > >> >exercises to keep the muscle tone and I do have a special neck > > >> >roll for night. Sometimes I have to resort to my night collar. > > >> >I have two & half discs missing so the vertebra are fused, > > >> >I have the same prob with my lower back and a steel corset, > > >> >but that's another story. :-) > > >> > > > >> >>^..^< > > >> > > >> Fusing the verterbrae is apparently not an option for me.... > > >> so I have to make the best of it....With a little help from my friends > > >> > > >> > > >> jingles > > >> > > >> >***** > > > > > >It wasn't an option for me either, mother nature did it > > >all by herself. I was offered an op: but it was only a 30% chance of sucess > > >or it might even make it worse. I'm not > > >so much green as cabbage looking, operating in the neck > > > area, surgeon sneezes, paralysed from neck down, I don't > > >think so, I'll put up with the pain, I still enjoy my walks. > > > > > >>^..^< > > > > I tend to feel the same way ..... when the Grim Reaper calls, I want > > to be on my feet and running > > > > When the Grim Reaper calls I want to be out :-) > -- > Mike Clayton > Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. > Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968) > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton ROTFL, Me too sunshine, me too. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> <735-3F95E9EF-314@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <3f9702ca.6383991@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-118-139.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1066948137 2786 81.131.118.139 (23 Oct 2003 22:28:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 391 Lines: 21 > > > >A clear statement of my opinion, no rancour, no bias. > >Let no one accuse me of either! > >-- > >Gordon > > > I'm not giving you an argument but I do wish Blair would > change his hairdresser..... > > jingles I think Tony's hair style is the least of his problems at the moment, at least he has got one, not like a certain party leader I could mention. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:49 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-118-139.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1066948138 2786 81.131.118.139 (23 Oct 2003 22:28:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1408 Lines: 39 "Lanky" wrote in message news:39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com... > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:27:29 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) > wrote: > > >On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:41:49 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com > >(Jeanette S.) wrote: > > > >>jingles, carrying the can wrote: "I find that where such serious topics > >>are concerned 'face to face' discussions are better. There is not the > >>same temptation to 'blow up' as there is on a newsgroup - there is not > >>the same anonymity to hide behind... > >>Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on Iraq > >>fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking to each > >>other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to blows.... > >>My daughter is married to an American, my son is Australian. =A0 A > >>second son walked out on the argument and told them both to 'drop > >>dead'..... > >>So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your > >>leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... > >>jingles - who now has to carry the can. > >>***************************************** > >>I'm with you. BYW, what do you have in your can? Jeanette > > > >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... > > > >jingles > >> > I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. > > Lanky. Wriggle out of that one. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:42:06 GMT Message-ID: <3f98752a.6586503@news.individual.net> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066956130 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 889 Lines: 36 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:57:59 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod >> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... >> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the >>legendary asp....? >> >>jingles >>> >He may have misunderstood this from you: > >******** >"And a Merry Christmas to you too Rod..... > >One of the mindless blatherers....." >******** > >Might have thought you meant *him*, whereas we all know you're the M.B. >in your remark! > >Sensitive fellow! >-- >Gordon If he had been reading the posts he would have realised that for himself... PS I never insult people.....I go out and smash plates jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:43:47 GMT Message-ID: <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066956229 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1282 Lines: 39 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >> >>>> >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... >>>> >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the >>>> location....... >>>> >>>> jingles >>>> >>> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod >> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... >> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the >>legendary asp....? >> >>jingles > >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it >ignominiously! >-- >Gordon I do so hate to be misunderstood....it reflects upon my ability to communicate.....now you never misunderstand me... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:46:46 GMT Message-ID: <3f98764f.6878758@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f508.15183371@news.individual.net> <3f960e0b.21587707@news.individual.net> <3f96fd10.4917086@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066956408 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2006 Lines: 57 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:01:22 +0100, Mike Clayton wrote: >In article <3f96fd10.4917086@news.individual.net>, >ophelia@netconnect.com.au says... >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:05:08 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >I was told to wear it all the time when I first got it and only take it >> >off >> >> >when sitting still. I even had one for night wear. >> >> >Then I got to thinking that my muscles would go slack through >> >> >lack of use so I only wear it on transport because travelling >> >> >over bumps and hard braking is painful. I still do my neck >> >> >exercises to keep the muscle tone and I do have a special neck >> >> >roll for night. Sometimes I have to resort to my night collar. >> >> >I have two & half discs missing so the vertebra are fused, >> >> >I have the same prob with my lower back and a steel corset, >> >> >but that's another story. :-) >> >> > >> >> >>^..^< >> >> >> >> Fusing the verterbrae is apparently not an option for me.... >> >> so I have to make the best of it....With a little help from my friends >> >> >> >> >> >> jingles >> >> >> >> >***** >> > >> >It wasn't an option for me either, mother nature did it >> >all by herself. I was offered an op: but it was only a 30% chance of sucess >> >or it might even make it worse. I'm not >> >so much green as cabbage looking, operating in the neck >> > area, surgeon sneezes, paralysed from neck down, I don't >> >think so, I'll put up with the pain, I still enjoy my walks. >> > >> >>^..^< >> >> I tend to feel the same way ..... when the Grim Reaper calls, I want >> to be on my feet and running >> > >When the Grim Reaper calls I want to be out :-) >-- >Mike Clayton >Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. >Martin Luther King Jr. (1929 - 1968) >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton Why do you think I want to be running? if he is going to catch me...he has to chase me jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:48:25 GMT Message-ID: <3f9876b8.6984248@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f95ceae.5364161@news.individual.net> <3f96fea7.5324094@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066956507 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 710 Lines: 27 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:54 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >> >It gripes me hearing about all these 'sprightly 85 year olds'. >> >I'm 70 soon and my sprightliness is hanging by a thread... >> >-- >> >Gordon >> >> Don't you think it is odd that these sprightly 85 year olds only >> appear in jokes.....? gives you something to think about.... >> Hang in there Gordon.... >> >> jingles > >We have an 87 year old in our walking group, (come to think of it I am the >baby of the group) all are women apart from >Bill who is 85. Maybe it's mainly us gals that are sprightly? > >>^..^< >***** And does Bill get his exercise by fending off the females ? jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:50:05 GMT Message-ID: <3f987700.7055924@news.individual.net> References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95d7f6.7740419@news.individual.net> <3f97022f.6229007@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066956608 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 868 Lines: 31 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:51:27 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:52:16 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >>>> >>>"That don' impress me much - >>>Doo-doo, doo-wahhh"... >>> >>>I don't think either have the same effect on me as Shania, or Cher, or >>>Kylie or Madonna . . . . >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>I notice that each and every one of them reduces their gear to a >>minimum one of them actually sings I believe.... >>jingles >> >Kylie is lightweight, I suppose, but the others have talent beyond >removing their clothes. ;-) > >They are all good at what they do, which is what it is all about... >-- >Gordon Of course it is....only pulling your leg, though I do feel that Kylie always looks like a 'tart'... just my personal opinion of course. jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:51:41 GMT Message-ID: <3f987767.7159077@news.individual.net> References: <3f95d5da.7200835@news.individual.net> <735-3F95E9EF-314@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <3f9702ca.6383991@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066956703 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 692 Lines: 29 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:57 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >> > >> >A clear statement of my opinion, no rancour, no bias. >> >Let no one accuse me of either! >> >-- >> >Gordon >> >> >> I'm not giving you an argument but I do wish Blair would >> change his hairdresser..... >> >> jingles > >I think Tony's hair style is the least of his problems at the moment, at >least he has got one, not like a certain party >leader I could mention. > >>^..^< >***** Little Johny just gives his head a once over with the face washer but you have to admit he never misses his morning walk...no matter which country he is in.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:53:10 GMT Message-ID: <3f9877b5.7237558@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066956793 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1462 Lines: 37 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:45 +0100, Lanky wrote: >On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:27:29 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > >>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:41:49 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com >>(Jeanette S.) wrote: >> >>>jingles, carrying the can wrote: "I find that where such serious topics >>>are concerned 'face to face' discussions are better. There is not the >>>same temptation to 'blow up' as there is on a newsgroup - there is not >>>the same anonymity to hide behind... >>>Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on Iraq >>>fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking to each >>>other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to blows.... >>>My daughter is married to an American, my son is Australian. =A0 A >>>second son walked out on the argument and told them both to 'drop >>>dead'..... >>>So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your >>>leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... >>>jingles - who now has to carry the can. >>>***************************************** >>>I'm with you. BYW, what do you have in your can? Jeanette >> >>Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >> >>jingles >>> >I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. > >Lanky. See! I only have to call and he comes arunning.....How are you Lanky my old mate? I hope the countryside is living up to expectations. jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: And here's another on Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:57:49 GMT Message-ID: <3f9878af.7487192@news.individual.net> References: <28038-3F971C63-107@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066957071 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 771 Lines: 22 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:42:26 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Olly Mensch wrote >>Gordon - - and as the temperature was "easing upwards", so was he - - >>and he swept her into his arms, but, alas, her circumference was too >>huge to allow him a full embrace - so he dropped her again - took out >>his hankie, and waved good-bye. > >As he pulled out the hanky, his keys came out with it, and dropped down >the drain, to be lost for ever. >The fat lady, being a jolly person, laughed out loud, but with no >malice, you understand...... >-- >Gordon But an enterprising young man who witnessed the incident, used a bent coathanger to fish out the keys and subsequently removed all valuables from the man's domicile.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:03:25 GMT Message-ID: <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066957407 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 863 Lines: 28 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:12:16 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Oh Well wrote >>Geeze you liberals, how 'bout cutting us a little slack. Your complaints about >>President Bush's speech can be applied to all presidents at least in the modern >>era. We (conservatives) know how you feel about any of us, but don't make it so >>obvious, ok. >> >>Your imagination and intelligence is not showing. >> >Here we go again......... > >(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) >-- >Gordon "Once there was a little old ram, Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, Nothing could make that ram scram He kept butting that dam.. 'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, Just remember that ram........" jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:04:16 GMT Message-ID: <3f987a7c.7948217@news.individual.net> References: <3754-3F97F6EA-90@storefull-2313.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066957458 32391185 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 263 Lines: 12 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:42:34 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >Gordon - au contraire - - as you once said - - I, for one, am so glad >she did bother, since it was a very fair and unbiased >observation.====Olly Thank you Olly..... jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:25:45 GMT Message-ID: <3f987ab1.8001761@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3F9800E8.E9EC9EC4@batnet.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066958747 31650281 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2768 Lines: 76 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:25:29 -0700, Paul Conley wrote: >jingles, > >I would never be foolish enough to enter into a dispute with the >'godmother' of this group. You're too precious. Never been called 'godmother' before...but quite a number of other things....some quite uncomplimentary.....but I have survived.... The word 'precious' has many meanings....the one I prefer is 'valuable' but I think I may be flattering myself if I take this to be your intention. >As Bush, however, was making his "I love freedom of speech!" remark, it >should noted that the person speaking out against him was being >physcially removed from the hall. To interject when a member of Parliament has the floor is a discourtesy...regardless of who the speaker is or who the interjector is.... it calls primarily for a warning....and subsequently the member is removed from the Chamber. The President was a guest of the House and he had the floor....the same courtesy should have been extended to him .. as would be extended to anybody else. It is permitted to state one's case in the correct manner....and at the appropriate time....once the Speaker of the House recognises the member . If there were no rules of behaviour the place would be bedlam with everybody yelling and nobody listening. Senator Bob Brown was in the wrong behaving as he did....it was a discourteous act. He could have submitted his 'unhappiness' to the President in a letter as did the Leader of the Opposition, but of course he wouldn't have got the TV coverage. Yes! there were demonstrations.....the War in Iraq is not popular....my post simply covered the President's speech which was well delivered... not the Policies of the US. As I said before....credit where credit is due.....he performed in an admirable fashion....and carried off the interjection with aplomb that won him a round of applause....Finish! The Godmother > >Paul > >jingles wrote: > >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:58:41 -0700, Paul Conley >> wrote: >> >> >Bush no more wrote that speech than I wrote the Declaration of >> >Independence. >> > >> >Paul >> >> I am quite aware of that Paul....but he did deliver it and the off >> -the-cuff remark was not written into the script....because the >> interjection could not have been anticipated.... >> In Australia we like to feel that credit is given where credit is >> due.... >> Shakespeare wrote the Merchant of Venice, but it is the actor who >> gets the accolades.... >> >> jingles >> >> > >> > >> >jingles wrote: >> > >> >> I have just watched the President of the United States of America >> >> address the Australian Parliament. >> >> In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard >> >> him make. >> > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:32:50 GMT Message-ID: <3f987fba.9290913@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3F9800E8.E9EC9EC4@batnet.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066959171 31999036 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1161 Lines: 32 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:04:10 +0100, Gordon wrote: >Paul Conley wrote >>jingles, >> >>I would never be foolish enough to enter into a dispute with the >>'godmother' of this group. You're too precious. >> >>As Bush, however, was making his "I love freedom of speech!" remark, it >>should noted that the person speaking out against him was being >>physcially removed from the hall. >> >>Paul >> >Quite! That is not free speech, it is the suppression of it. > >Did anyone hear what the heckler said? >-- >Gordon Yes! as I said we had a full coverage from the House. Bob Brown had made his intentions know that he was seeking the release of the two Australian residents who are being held in custody....the wife of one of them was also present in the House....a second Senator endeavoured to force a letter on the President while he was shaking hands I understand it was from the wife of one of the prisoners..... It was also noted by the press that a number of Senators did not rise to their feet for the standing ovation....but did applaud. jingles - who almost wishes she had kept her mouth shut From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: gina39d@yahoo.com (toci) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: 23 Oct 2003 18:50:55 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <52a6abdc.0310231750.f7f47af@posting.google.com> References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.142.239.210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066960255 8865 127.0.0.1 (24 Oct 2003 01:50:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1378 Lines: 21 Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote in message news:<735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net>... > Jeanette - - there is a difference between imposing (sometimes in an > insulting manner) one's views upon others, or discussing various points > of view.Many are, indeed, interested in politics and world affairs, and > they should, ideally lead to good discussions. If only people will > remain civil. I noticed that,currently, there was a dicssion about > religion - -well, nothing could possibly be more delicate and > controversial than that!! Why don't you let those who do feel insulted > plead their own case, and solve their dilemma, and let the chips fall > where they may!!!!!! > I, for one, much prefer exchanges about world affairs, politics, yes, > religion , if need be, cultural questions,etc.etc. - than what chores we > are planning to do, or how we spent the day yesterday,etc.etc. > Although, occasionally, I, too, enjoy some little reverie, either from > the past, or from personal experience - as long as that does not become > a "chronic" condition!! > An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the > question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido > Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a > challenge!!!!!!!!Olly They sound the same, but they look different. Toci From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:50 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:00:12 GMT Message-ID: <3f988733.11204258@news.individual.net> References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066960814 32458886 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1529 Lines: 34 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:47 +0100, Lanky wrote: >On 23 Oct 2003 01:55:03 -0700, bd.ravenhill@virgin.net (B D Ravenhill) >wrote: > >>Does anyone remember Ivy Benson and Her "All Girl Band" which ran for >>over 40 years, from 1939 to 1982 and had 250+ girl musicians passing >>through over that period. They played on Radio during the War Years, >>toured in Europe and the Middle East and many will remember the Summer >>Seasons at the Villa Marina Gardens on the Isle of Man in the late >>50's/early 60's, when up to 6000 visitors would relax in their >>deckchairs to listen to an afternoon of excellent musical >>entertainment. >> >>Ivy passed away in May 1993 in Clacton on Sea where she had retired. >> >>Little of the history of this unique UK band has been available, but I >>have now developed a website to celebrate them. I am always looking >>for stories, photos and memorabilia connected to this band - can you >>help? You can see the site at www.ivybenson-online.com - I hope you >>enjoy it and maybe I will hear from you. > >I certainly remember Ivy Benson, she was born in Leeds, a sharp cookie >who stood no messing! Although retired in Clacton she was a very >popular organist there. > >Lanky I remember her as part of my youth. It always intrigued me that it was an 'all girls' band as all the other big bands were male. I don't remember the name of the film, but they did make one....and I did see it... jingles - also about to take a peek at her youth.... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f95ceae.5364161@news.individual.net> <3f96fea7.5324094@news.individual.net> <3f9876b8.6984248@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-39-120.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1066968525 14938 81.131.39.120 (24 Oct 2003 04:08:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1304 Lines: 45 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f9876b8.6984248@news.individual.net... > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:54 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" > wrote: > > > > >> >It gripes me hearing about all these 'sprightly 85 year olds'. > >> >I'm 70 soon and my sprightliness is hanging by a thread... > >> >-- > >> >Gordon > >> > >> Don't you think it is odd that these sprightly 85 year olds only > >> appear in jokes.....? gives you something to think about.... > >> Hang in there Gordon.... > >> > >> jingles > > > >We have an 87 year old in our walking group, (come to think of it I am the > >baby of the group) all are women apart from > >Bill who is 85. Maybe it's mainly us gals that are sprightly? > > > >>^..^< > >***** > > And does Bill get his exercise by fending off the females ? > > jingles > > Poor devil doesn't get the chance. His 'friend' is the 87 year old who is as jealous as hell of anyone she thinks is getting 'too friendly' with him. It's so sad. Bill says take no notice of her. He's a lovely chap, tall ex RN and you can just see him in his officers uniform. He is so interesting to listen to. What Sylvia doesn't realise is that no one has any designs on the man, he is just part of the group. >^..^< ***** >^..^< ***** > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <18146-3F916230-21@storefull-2314.public.lawson.webtv.net> <735-3F959A28-246@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> <52a6abdc.0310231750.f7f47af@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-39-120.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1066968527 14938 81.131.39.120 (24 Oct 2003 04:08:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1814 Lines: 36 > > Jeanette - - there is a difference between imposing (sometimes in an > > insulting manner) one's views upon others, or discussing various points > > of view.Many are, indeed, interested in politics and world affairs, and > > they should, ideally lead to good discussions. If only people will > > remain civil. I noticed that,currently, there was a dicssion about > > religion - -well, nothing could possibly be more delicate and > > controversial than that!! Why don't you let those who do feel insulted > > plead their own case, and solve their dilemma, and let the chips fall > > where they may!!!!!! > > I, for one, much prefer exchanges about world affairs, politics, yes, > > religion , if need be, cultural questions,etc.etc. - than what chores we > > are planning to do, or how we spent the day yesterday,etc.etc. > > Although, occasionally, I, too, enjoy some little reverie, either from > > the past, or from personal experience - as long as that does not become > > a "chronic" condition!! > > An e-mail, private partner and I once almost came to blows (!!) over the > > question: who is the better tenor: Luciano Pavarotti or Placido > > Domingo!! My choice was Pavarotti - - I am throwing this out as a > > challenge!!!!!!!!Olly > They sound the same, but they look different. Toci Sorry to disagree but they do not sound the same at all. I can usually tell whom is singing before it is announce. Listening to the 3 Tenors singing at one of their concerts I don't need to look to know which one is singing. Of course I like classical music better than the modern music, which usually does sound all the same to me. I have a pretty catholic taste in music and still enjoy the Stones and other 60s groups as well as brass bands, pipes, and sloppy songs from earlier years. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> <3f988733.11204258@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-39-120.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1066968529 14938 81.131.39.120 (24 Oct 2003 04:08:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1917 Lines: 46 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f988733.11204258@news.individual.net... > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:47 +0100, Lanky wrote: > > >On 23 Oct 2003 01:55:03 -0700, bd.ravenhill@virgin.net (B D Ravenhill) > >wrote: > > > >>Does anyone remember Ivy Benson and Her "All Girl Band" which ran for > >>over 40 years, from 1939 to 1982 and had 250+ girl musicians passing > >>through over that period. They played on Radio during the War Years, > >>toured in Europe and the Middle East and many will remember the Summer > >>Seasons at the Villa Marina Gardens on the Isle of Man in the late > >>50's/early 60's, when up to 6000 visitors would relax in their > >>deckchairs to listen to an afternoon of excellent musical > >>entertainment. > >> > >>Ivy passed away in May 1993 in Clacton on Sea where she had retired. > >> > >>Little of the history of this unique UK band has been available, but I > >>have now developed a website to celebrate them. I am always looking > >>for stories, photos and memorabilia connected to this band - can you > >>help? You can see the site at www.ivybenson-online.com - I hope you > >>enjoy it and maybe I will hear from you. > > > >I certainly remember Ivy Benson, she was born in Leeds, a sharp cookie > >who stood no messing! Although retired in Clacton she was a very > >popular organist there. > > > >Lanky > > I remember her as part of my youth. It always intrigued me that it > was an 'all girls' band as all the other big bands were male. > I don't remember the name of the film, but they did make one....and I > did see it... > jingles - also about to take a peek at her youth.... The only time I saw her was on the I.O.M. in the 50s. There was a parade on the sea front and the band was leading it, I'm afraid we were all singing 'Livin' Doll' although we did stop to watch them. ;-) >^..^< ***** > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-39-120.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1066968528 14938 81.131.39.120 (24 Oct 2003 04:08:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1075 Lines: 41 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net... > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:12:16 +0100, Gordon > wrote: > > >Oh Well wrote > >>Geeze you liberals, how 'bout cutting us a little slack. Your complaints about > >>President Bush's speech can be applied to all presidents at least in the modern > >>era. We (conservatives) know how you feel about any of us, but don't make it so > >>obvious, ok. > >> > >>Your imagination and intelligence is not showing. > >> > >Here we go again......... > > > >(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) > >-- > >Gordon > > "Once there was a little old ram, > Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, > Nothing could make that ram scram > He kept butting that dam.. > 'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, > Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... > So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, > Just remember that ram........" > > jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) Are you refering to our Gordon as a ram? >^..^< ***** > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Bobbie - Rugby Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:34:01 GMT Message-ID: <3f98ab79.20491822@news.individual.net> References: <2cv79oibuuk6$.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f925296$0$14491$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3f931cef.2201213@news.individual.net> <1p3h8louqtsnc.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <3f93c327.17460641@news.individual.net> <3f95ceae.5364161@news.individual.net> <3f96fea7.5324094@news.individual.net> <3f9876b8.6984248@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066970043 32483949 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1547 Lines: 48 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:45 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f9876b8.6984248@news.individual.net... >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:54 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >It gripes me hearing about all these 'sprightly 85 year olds'. >> >> >I'm 70 soon and my sprightliness is hanging by a thread... >> >> >-- >> >> >Gordon >> >> >> >> Don't you think it is odd that these sprightly 85 year olds only >> >> appear in jokes.....? gives you something to think about.... >> >> Hang in there Gordon.... >> >> >> >> jingles >> > >> >We have an 87 year old in our walking group, (come to think of it I am >the >> >baby of the group) all are women apart from >> >Bill who is 85. Maybe it's mainly us gals that are sprightly? >> > >> >>^..^< >> >***** >> >> And does Bill get his exercise by fending off the females ? >> >> jingles >> > >Poor devil doesn't get the chance. His 'friend' is the 87 year old who is as >jealous as hell of anyone she thinks is getting 'too friendly' with him. >It's so sad. Bill says take no notice of her. >He's a lovely chap, tall ex RN and you can just see him in his officers >uniform. He is so interesting to listen to. What Sylvia doesn't realise is >that no one has any designs on the man, he is just part of the group. > >>^..^< >***** Can't stand jealous women myself. My husband and I trust each other implicitly and we are never jealous..... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:36:44 GMT Message-ID: <3f98ac1e.20656080@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066970206 32483949 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1285 Lines: 45 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:48 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net... >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:12:16 +0100, Gordon >> wrote: >> >> >Oh Well wrote >> >>Geeze you liberals, how 'bout cutting us a little slack. Your >complaints about >> >>President Bush's speech can be applied to all presidents at least in the >modern >> >>era. We (conservatives) know how you feel about any of us, but don't >make it so >> >>obvious, ok. >> >> >> >>Your imagination and intelligence is not showing. >> >> >> >Here we go again......... >> > >> >(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) >> >-- >> >Gordon >> >> "Once there was a little old ram, >> Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, >> Nothing could make that ram scram >> He kept butting that dam.. >> 'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, >> Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... >> So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, >> Just remember that ram........" >> >> jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) > >Are you refering to our Gordon as a ram? > >>^..^< >***** Nope! just likening some immovable objects to the 'dam'.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:42:09 GMT Message-ID: <3f98ad37.20937650@news.individual.net> References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> <3f988733.11204258@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-066.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.66) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066970531 32567530 203.87.44.66 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2220 Lines: 50 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:08:49 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f988733.11204258@news.individual.net... >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:47 +0100, Lanky wrote: >> >> >On 23 Oct 2003 01:55:03 -0700, bd.ravenhill@virgin.net (B D Ravenhill) >> >wrote: >> > >> >>Does anyone remember Ivy Benson and Her "All Girl Band" which ran for >> >>over 40 years, from 1939 to 1982 and had 250+ girl musicians passing >> >>through over that period. They played on Radio during the War Years, >> >>toured in Europe and the Middle East and many will remember the Summer >> >>Seasons at the Villa Marina Gardens on the Isle of Man in the late >> >>50's/early 60's, when up to 6000 visitors would relax in their >> >>deckchairs to listen to an afternoon of excellent musical >> >>entertainment. >> >> >> >>Ivy passed away in May 1993 in Clacton on Sea where she had retired. >> >> >> >>Little of the history of this unique UK band has been available, but I >> >>have now developed a website to celebrate them. I am always looking >> >>for stories, photos and memorabilia connected to this band - can you >> >>help? You can see the site at www.ivybenson-online.com - I hope you >> >>enjoy it and maybe I will hear from you. >> > >> >I certainly remember Ivy Benson, she was born in Leeds, a sharp cookie >> >who stood no messing! Although retired in Clacton she was a very >> >popular organist there. >> > >> >Lanky >> >> I remember her as part of my youth. It always intrigued me that it >> was an 'all girls' band as all the other big bands were male. >> I don't remember the name of the film, but they did make one....and I >> did see it... >> jingles - also about to take a peek at her youth.... > >The only time I saw her was on the I.O.M. in the 50s. >There was a parade on the sea front and the band was leading it, I'm afraid >we were all singing 'Livin' Doll' although we did stop to watch them. ;-) > Never saw her in the flesh....but I did go to the I.O.M. in the late 40s. my first holiday 'sans parents'... Joe Loss and his band were at the ballroom that season.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ttose@msn.com (Teddy) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 23 Oct 2003 22:25:48 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.250.255.173 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066973149 17037 127.0.0.1 (24 Oct 2003 05:25:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1643 Lines: 43 ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message news:<3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net>... > On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon > wrote: > > >jingles wrote > >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: > >> > >>>> > >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... > >>>> > >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless > >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... > >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... > >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice > >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the > >>>> location....... > >>>> > >>>> jingles > >>>> > >>> > >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod > >> > >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... > >> > >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the > >>legendary asp....? > >> > >>jingles > > > >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him > >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from > >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it > >ignominiously! > >-- > >Gordon > I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude to Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately talk about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he replied to someone else. He didn't leave ignominiously! He left making you look like an ill mannered oaf. Teddy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:27:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <16965-3F8AC5D1-167@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.99 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066980595 31568588 66.153.69.99 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 422 Lines: 15 "Gordon" wrote > Jeanette S. wrote > >Gordon, I heard that old joke many many years ago! Jeanette > > > So did I. That's a price you pay for getting old. :-) > Gordon LOL! "Growing old is like being increasingly penalized for a crime you haven't committed." -Anthony Powell (1905-2000) English novelist > http://littlecalamity.tripod.com/Quotes/Aging.html ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:46:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <28038-3F971D69-108@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.99 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066981792 32642143 66.153.69.99 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 770 Lines: 22 "Gordon" wrote [...] > It is small, plump bird, with a black 'cap' and a yellow breast which > has a black stripe down it. They come after the peanuts I hang in > feeders in my garden in winter, when natural food is scarce. > You might find one here: > http://www.birdsofbritain.co.uk/bird-guide/index.htm > Gordon Or here: > http://birds.cornell.edu/BOW/TUTI/ Or here: > http://birds.cornell.edu/birdhouse/bird_bios/speciesaccounts/tuftit.html I tried to listen to the sound of the bird here, but my computer wouldn't let me. I got a message saying the "RealOne Player could not locate the specified clip." Is anyone out there able to access the sound clip at the second URL above? The link says: "Listen to the Tufted Titmouse." ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Concorde's last Flight Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:59:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.99 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066982418 32866043 66.153.69.99 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1297 Lines: 28 "Gordon" wrote > I watched moist-eyed tonight as Concorde was seen taking off from > Manchester Airport for it's last flight. > A magnificent sight, as she took off like a beautiful but hook-nosed > bird, never destined to make huge profits for the airlines, but what an > engineering achievement. The only supersonic airliner built, as > others were abandoned, and an Anglo-French achievement of which I am > proud . . . . > The sight of those four afterburners winking as she disappeared into the > haze was awesome. Apparently all the approach roads to the airport were > jammed as people flocked to see her. > I flocked to the TV.... > Gordon I'm happy to be able to say that our son rode on the Concorde last year. His Scottish girlfriend had to attend a wedding in Europe and invited him along. They had only the weekend and took the Concorde back to the USA. I believe they used her extra flight points, or whatever they're called. She flies quite a bit on business, earning "free" travel this way. We might meet her Scottish father during the Thanksgiving holiday. I can't wait. BTW, this little lass has a pilot's license and took my husband for a flight last year. They rented a plane in CT. I just watched. ---Sea, in the USA, who never flies... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:23:25 +0100 Message-ID: References: <7dde0223.0310200826.32d8c082@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310202038.54fb8914@posting.google.com> <5bh9pv023739gk9brg1ttko03ffcb8l15t@4ax.com> <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98752a.6586503@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066986528 14905 194.222.103.116 (24 Oct 2003 09:08:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:08:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1104 Lines: 41 jingles wrote >On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:57:59 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>jingles wrote >>>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >>> >>>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod >>> >>>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... >>> >>>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the >>>legendary asp....? >>> >>>jingles >>>> >>He may have misunderstood this from you: >> >>******** >>"And a Merry Christmas to you too Rod..... >> >>One of the mindless blatherers....." >>******** >> >>Might have thought you meant *him*, whereas we all know you're the M.B. >>in your remark! >> >>Sensitive fellow! >>-- >>Gordon > >If he had been reading the posts he would have realised that for >himself... >PS I never insult people.....I go out and smash plates > >jingles > I smashed on last night - by accident, one of my MIL's old ones. Still got two others, but I hope that was the cracked one! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:37:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066986530 14905 194.222.103.116 (24 Oct 2003 09:08:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:08:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 2490 Lines: 63 Teddy wrote >ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message news:<3f98758d.6685199@news >.individual.net>... >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon >> wrote: >> > >> >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him >> >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from >> >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it >> >ignominiously! >> >-- >> >Gordon >> >I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude to >Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately talk >about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he >replied to someone else. I Quote him: ********************************************************************* I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. I am puking at what is being done in the name of the Lord. Rod I am a Christian. Jesus said I have come to fulfil the testament not to destroy it. He must blush and hide at what we do in His name.. The ten commandants say thou shalt not kill. When we kill not because we are threatened but because somebody might do something we turn away from the teachings of the Christians with pre-emptive war.People who do that are foul criminals No amount of fancy words or stupid logic will stop me from puking. I am puking at what is being done in the name of the Lord. Rod ******************************************************************** He is, apparently, thrice 'puking'. 8-) I rest my case....... >He didn't leave ignominiously! He left making >you look like an ill mannered oaf. > No - he proved himself to be one, I reluctantly quote his email to me, which, quite apart from the lack of punctuation, and coupled with the extraordinary burst of rhetoric above, shows him to be a strange fellow in my humble opinion! He wrote: ********************************** I am ashamed to know you are English You are rude your plan B shows me you are a true dickhead Rod ********************************** Now a word of advice. It is always a mistake to open your contribution to a newsgroup, as both you and 'Rod' did, by starting an argument and insulting people. Both of you have insulted me, but I have carefully kept my opinion of you to myself. Please learn from my example! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:51 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:41:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066986531 14905 194.222.103.116 (24 Oct 2003 09:08:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:08:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 996 Lines: 35 jingles wrote >On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:12:16 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>Oh Well wrote >>>Geeze you liberals, how 'bout cutting us a little slack. Your complaints >about >>>President Bush's speech can be applied to all presidents at least in the >modern >>>era. We (conservatives) know how you feel about any of us, but don't make it >so >>>obvious, ok. >>> >>>Your imagination and intelligence is not showing. >>> >>Here we go again......... >> >>(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) >>-- >>Gordon > >"Once there was a little old ram, >Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, >Nothing could make that ram scram >He kept butting that dam.. >'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, >Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... >So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, >Just remember that ram........" > >jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) > "Whoops! there goes a billion kilowatt dam"! -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:44:14 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1066986532 14905 194.222.103.116 (24 Oct 2003 09:08:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:08:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 824 Lines: 29 Jan Lancaster wrote > >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net... >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:12:16 +0100, Gordon >> wrote: >> >> >> >Here we go again......... >> > >> >(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) >> >-- >> >Gordon >> >> "Once there was a little old ram, >> Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, >> Nothing could make that ram scram >> He kept butting that dam.. >> 'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, >> Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... >> So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, >> Just remember that ram........" >> >> jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) > >Are you refering to our Gordon as a ram? > I'm not a ram, I'm a ramma-ramma-dingdong....... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:45:32 GMT Message-ID: <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-155.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.155) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066985134 31398369 203.87.45.155 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1911 Lines: 53 On 23 Oct 2003 22:25:48 -0700, ttose@msn.com (Teddy) wrote: >ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message news:<3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net>... >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon >> wrote: >> >> >jingles wrote >> >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... >> >>>> >> >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless >> >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... >> >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... >> >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice >> >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the >> >>>> location....... >> >>>> >> >>>> jingles >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod >> >> >> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... >> >> >> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the >> >>legendary asp....? >> >> >> >>jingles >> > >> >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him >> >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from >> >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it >> >ignominiously! >> >-- >> >Gordon >> >I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude to >Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately talk >about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he >replied to someone else. He didn't leave ignominiously! He left making >you look like an ill mannered oaf. > >Teddy Teddy, I am sorry I have to correct you, but Rod announced his withdrawal from the group in response to my post ..... in which I saw nothing offensive. jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:44:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <16965-3F8AC5D1-167@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067010215 21360 194.222.103.116 (24 Oct 2003 15:43:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:43:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 520 Lines: 20 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >"Gordon" wrote >> Jeanette S. wrote >> >Gordon, I heard that old joke many many years ago! Jeanette >> > >> So did I. That's a price you pay for getting old. :-) >> Gordon > >LOL! >"Growing old is like being increasingly penalized > for a crime you haven't committed." > -Anthony Powell (1905-2000) English novelist I'm innocent, I tell you! >> http://littlecalamity.tripod.com/Quotes/Aging.html >---Sea > -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:10:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f9877b5.7237558@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.184.61 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066993951 33119134 217.137.184.61 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1626 Lines: 44 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 00:53:10 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:53:45 +0100, Lanky wrote: > >>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:27:29 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >>wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:41:49 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com >>>(Jeanette S.) wrote: >>> >>>>jingles, carrying the can wrote: "I find that where such serious topics >>>>are concerned 'face to face' discussions are better. There is not the >>>>same temptation to 'blow up' as there is on a newsgroup - there is not >>>>the same anonymity to hide behind... >>>>Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on Iraq >>>>fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking to each >>>>other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to blows.... >>>>My daughter is married to an American, my son is Australian. =A0 A >>>>second son walked out on the argument and told them both to 'drop >>>>dead'..... >>>>So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your >>>>leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... >>>>jingles - who now has to carry the can. >>>>***************************************** >>>>I'm with you. BYW, what do you have in your can? Jeanette >>> >>>Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >>> >>>jingles >>>> >>I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >> >>Lanky. > > >See! I only have to call and he comes arunning.....How are you Lanky >my old mate? I hope the countryside is living up to expectations. > >jingles More ambling like. I'm OK. Wus aw reet. Lanky. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:10:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.184.61 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1066993952 33119134 217.137.184.61 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1592 Lines: 44 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:28:58 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"Lanky" wrote in message >news:39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 22:27:29 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >> wrote: >> >> >On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:41:49 -0500 (CDT), jenahearn10@hotmail.com >> >(Jeanette S.) wrote: >> > >> >>jingles, carrying the can wrote: "I find that where such serious topics >> >>are concerned 'face to face' discussions are better. There is not the >> >>same temptation to 'blow up' as there is on a newsgroup - there is not >> >>the same anonymity to hide behind... >> >>Even face to face I have seen a 'discussion' of America's attack on Iraq >> >>fragment my family.....two of my children are no longer speaking to each >> >>other after having a 'serious' discussion which almost came to blows.... >> >>My daughter is married to an American, my son is Australian. =A0 A >> >>second son walked out on the argument and told them both to 'drop >> >>dead'..... >> >>So you see, I will romp with you, joke with you....and pull your >> >>leg.....but I will not argue politics with you.... >> >>jingles - who now has to carry the can. >> >>***************************************** >> >>I'm with you. BYW, what do you have in your can? Jeanette >> > >> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >> > >> >jingles >> >> >> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >> >> Lanky. > >Wriggle out of that one. > >>^..^< >***** > Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? Lanky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:41:26 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 2025 Lines: 58 On 23 Oct 2003 22:25:48 -0700, ttose@msn.com (Teddy) wrote: >ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message news:<3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net>... >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon >> wrote: >> >> >jingles wrote >> >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... >> >>>> >> >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless >> >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... >> >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... >> >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice >> >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the >> >>>> location....... >> >>>> >> >>>> jingles >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod >> >> >> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... >> >> >> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the >> >>legendary asp....? >> >> >> >>jingles >> > >> >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him >> >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from >> >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it >> >ignominiously! >> >-- >> >Gordon >> >I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude to >Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately talk >about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he >replied to someone else. He didn't leave ignominiously! He left making >you look like an ill mannered oaf. > >Teddy Don't know for sure of course, but I suspect that Rod and Teddy is the same troll. That is OK. They/he/she are/is welcome as far as I am concerned. -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <78Hlb.189834$0v4.14694715@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: The President Speaks. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:29:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.139 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1067009379 171.75.14.139 (Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:29:39 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:29:39 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 2096 Lines: 46 "Yoj" wrote in message news:78Hlb.189834$0v4.14694715@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > "jingles" wrote in message > news:3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net... > > I have just watched the President of the United States of America > > address the Australian Parliament. > > In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard > > him make. Which leads me to wonder whether the cutting by the media > > and the presentation of 'snippets' of political speeches, really > > reflects the actual content of the them. Taking perhaps much of it > > out of context. This time I saw it as it was happening.... > > The Opposition did not wear white armbands but chose to present a > > letter to Mr Bush. > > Two senators did interject and were removed from the House by the > > seargent at arms....they returned after the speech finished and Mr > > Bush was shaking hands with various senators....they were ejected a > > second time. > > Mr Bush did receive a standing ovation - but I personally think it was > > an off-the-cuff remark that gave him the edge. During the second > > interjection he grinned and said...."I love free speech"...... this > > remark was met with a most enthusiastic and spontaneous round of > > applause and one could almost feel the tension in the house relax. > > Whether you approve of him or not....he undeniably acquitted himself > > well. > > The content was neither more nor less than was expected dealing as it > > did with the war in Iraq, the fight against terrorism and the long and > > historic association between Australia and the US. > > A nice touch was the naming of the SAS Sergeant who was killed in > > Afghanistan and the announcement that he would be laying a wreath in > > his honour this afternoon. > > > > Just thought you would like to get an Australian point of view... > > > > jingles > > I certainly appreciate this view, Jingles. Of course all his speeches > are written for him. The last president who wrote his own speeches was Abraham Lincoln. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: The President Speaks. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:29:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.139 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1067009383 171.75.14.139 (Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:29:43 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:29:43 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 2250 Lines: 51 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net... > I have just watched the President of the United States of America > address the Australian Parliament. > In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard > him make. Which leads me to wonder whether the cutting by the media > and the presentation of 'snippets' of political speeches, really > reflects the actual content of the them. Taking perhaps much of it > out of context. I suspect that's true of most reporting. There's limited time and sometimes one's own opinions are part of the selection, not necessarily purposeful. In point of fact, most of the reporting about the war on terror suffers from a media problem. It is not, I think, so very much any media bias, but the nature of the news. A thousand schools open on the same day a bomb explodes. Which gets covered? Sensationalism sells newspapers and gets ratings for news programs. This time I saw it as it was happening.... > The Opposition did not wear white armbands but chose to present a > letter to Mr Bush. > Two senators did interject and were removed from the House by the > seargent at arms....they returned after the speech finished and Mr > Bush was shaking hands with various senators....they were ejected a > second time. > Mr Bush did receive a standing ovation - but I personally think it was > an off-the-cuff remark that gave him the edge. During the second > interjection he grinned and said...."I love free speech"...... this > remark was met with a most enthusiastic and spontaneous round of > applause and one could almost feel the tension in the house relax. > Whether you approve of him or not....he undeniably acquitted himself > well. > The content was neither more nor less than was expected dealing as it > did with the war in Iraq, the fight against terrorism and the long and > historic association between Australia and the US. > A nice touch was the naming of the SAS Sergeant who was killed in > Afghanistan and the announcement that he would be laying a wreath in > his honour this afternoon. > > Just thought you would like to get an Australian point of view... > Thank you for the nice words. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <19061-3F97EA18-233@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:29:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.139 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1067009384 171.75.14.139 (Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:29:44 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:29:44 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 335 Lines: 16 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:19061-3F97EA18-233@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net... > bob wrote: ""Contentious" being defined as?????????? > cheers" > ************************************** > Testy? Jeanette > One hopes. It may also mean "one with which I don't agree". grin cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:10:43 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <2801-3F994F03-4@storefull-2318.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3754-3F97F3FE-89@storefull-2313.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ7YurXPVVAExZuSb/MHyozb4GsIgIUBjmnWlA8n553SBltTG9AfLtZDeI= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 539 Lines: 12 Jeanette - no, it is something other than "testy" - - I would guess that Gordon sees "contentious" as being any statement which differs from his political views.==Olly ********************************************** Contend = to strive in debate; argue; maintain, assert. Testy - easily annoyed; irritable; marked impatience or ill humor: exasparated; see also,irascible which means: to become angry,, be angry; marked by hot temper and easily provoked. So I don't think what you said Gordon meant (above) is what he sees. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:14:00 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <2800-3F994FC8-11@storefull-2318.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRifgDQIuG6HwzPd1TnYeThf7RVhwIUE5jl3BGdGP/8xFZEyACe/TG59ig= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 274 Lines: 6 Joy wrote: One can be controversial without being contentious. I think a closer definition for contentious would be argumentative, and/or possibly confrontational. **************************************** Exactly Joy, and I agree with the confrontational part. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:18:19 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <2799-3F9950CB-51@storefull-2318.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAwNrF/jbExaqU19VLqblH59asylICFDvUXyLuCARQ8jdyjb39pzb1FfOU Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 457 Lines: 10 Gordon wrote: "Fair enough. =A0 In fact, contentious was the word I used, and your meaning was what I meant, looking back at the context. :-)" ******************************************* I knew what you meant Gordon. I'm not going to sit here and let others call you contentious when you're not! You have a right to your views as do others and not all are going to agree. Think what a dull world it would be if everybody agreed all the time. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:52 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:30:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067016959 4387 194.222.103.116 (24 Oct 2003 17:35:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:35:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 980 Lines: 34 Eugene A. Calame wrote >Don't know for sure of course, but I suspect that Rod and Teddy is the same >troll. > Yes - that very thought occurred to me, the lack of punctuation and similar addresses. Thanks Eugene..... ************************************** 'Teddy': NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.250.255.173 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066973149 17037 127.0.0.1 (24 Oct 2003 05:25:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:25:49 +0000 (UTC) **************************************** and 'Rod': NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.250.255.254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1066711111 13556 127.0.0.1 (21 Oct 2003 04:38:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 04:38:31 +0000 (UTC) *************************************** -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Concorde's last Flight Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:46:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067035173 25617 194.222.103.116 (24 Oct 2003 22:39:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:39:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1069 Lines: 25 ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >I'm happy to be able to say that our son rode on >the Concorde last year. His Scottish girlfriend had >to attend a wedding in Europe and invited him along. >They had only the weekend and took the Concorde back >to the USA. I believe they used her extra flight points, >or whatever they're called. She flies quite a bit on business, >earning "free" travel this way. We might meet her Scottish >father during the Thanksgiving holiday. I can't wait. >BTW, this little lass has a pilot's license and took my >husband for a flight last year. They rented a plane in CT. >I just watched. >---Sea, in the USA, who never flies... > I never flew on her, but I went inside a fuselage at the naval Air Museum at Yeovil. It al seemed very narrow compared with even the Boeing 737, but outside she was a beauty! The last take-off returning from NY was even more spectacular, with the engines pouring flame in the night sky. The end of an era, and we may never see supersonic passenger flight again in our lifetimes. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-35-173.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1067022561 19804 81.131.35.173 (24 Oct 2003 19:09:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 555 Lines: 34 .....but I will not argue politics with you.... > >> >>jingles - who now has to carry the can. > >> >>***************************************** > >> >>I'm with you. BYW, what do you have in your can? Jeanette > >> > > >> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... > >> > > >> >jingles > >> >> > >> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. > >> > >> Lanky. > > > >Wriggle out of that one. > > > >>^..^< > >***** > > > Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? > > Lanky Humour me, my brain is tired. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-35-173.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1067022563 19804 81.131.35.173 (24 Oct 2003 19:09:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 661 Lines: 30 > >> >Here we go again......... > >> > > >> >(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) > >> >-- > >> >Gordon > >> > >> "Once there was a little old ram, > >> Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, > >> Nothing could make that ram scram > >> He kept butting that dam.. > >> 'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, > >> Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... > >> So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, > >> Just remember that ram........" > >> > >> jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) > > > >Are you refering to our Gordon as a ram? > > > I'm not a ram, I'm a ramma-ramma-dingdong....... > -- > Gordon oo ee oo ah ah ...... >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-35-173.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1067022564 19804 81.131.35.173 (24 Oct 2003 19:09:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1978 Lines: 65 > >> >>>> > >> >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless > >> >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... > >> >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... > >> >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice > >> >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the > >> >>>> location....... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> jingles > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod > >> >> > >> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... > >> >> > >> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the > >> >>legendary asp....? > >> >> > >> >>jingles > >> > > >> >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him > >> >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from > >> >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it > >> >ignominiously! > >> >-- > >> >Gordon > >> > >I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude to > >Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately talk > >about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he > >replied to someone else. He didn't leave ignominiously! He left making > >you look like an ill mannered oaf. > > > >Teddy > > Teddy, > I am sorry I have to correct you, but Rod announced his withdrawal > from the group in response to my post ..... in which I saw nothing > offensive. > > jingles You have absolutely nothing to apologise for jingles. Although I haven't felt like posting for the last couple of weeks or so, I still have been having a nosey and you have been the lady in all your replies. ( apart from the sugestive ones to Mike & Gordon of course. ;-) I don't know what they did for the fellows but they cheered me up.) >^..^< ***** > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:43 GMT Message-ID: <3f997a63.307528@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-051.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.51) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067023005 33053160 203.87.44.51 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 431 Lines: 25 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:10:55 +0100, Lanky wrote: >>> > >>> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >>> > >>> >jingles >>> >> >>> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >>> >>> Lanky. >> >>Wriggle out of that one. >> >>>^..^< >>***** >> >Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? > >Lanky " I'm just a dear little wriggly worm...." Morning Lanky mi owd mate.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:24:23 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mike_clayton@ntlworld.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m494-mp1.cvx1-a.man.dial.ntli.net (62.252.197.238) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067023540 32903016 62.252.197.238 (16 [155445]) X-Orig-Path: ntlworld.com!mike_clayton User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U (<7HYqYgwAhFAThcIO+B2jMFZ6dA>) Status: O Content-Length: 563 Lines: 30 In message , Jan Lancaster writes >( apart from the sugestive ones to Mike & Gordon > of course. ;-) I don't know what they did for the fellows >but they cheered me up.) > Suggestive ones? Mike? What have I been missing? Or was it another that shares my name? :-) >>^..^< >***** > >> > > -- Mike Clayton Reputation is what other people know about you. Honour is what you know about yourself. Lois McMaster Bujold, "A Civil Campaign", 1999 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:25:00 GMT Message-ID: <3f997bad.637233@news.individual.net> References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-051.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.51) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067023503 33053160 203.87.44.51 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 891 Lines: 26 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:24 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: >>> jingles > >You have absolutely nothing to apologise for jingles. >Although I haven't felt like posting for the last couple of weeks or so, I >still have been having a nosey and you have >been the lady in all your replies. > >( apart from the sugestive ones to Mike & Gordon > of course. ;-) I don't know what they did for the fellows >but they cheered me up.) > >>^..^< >***** Thank you for your reassurances my friend. As we get older we sometimes wonder if we are losing our ability to communicate clearly with our fellow man. Our hearing diminishes as does our eyesight....it is only natural that our powers of communication should also suffer.. Old age is, I fear, something to be endured rather than enjoyed.... (I am glad I cheered you up though....) jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:26:43 GMT Message-ID: <3f997cb5.901141@news.individual.net> References: <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-051.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.51) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067023605 33053160 203.87.44.51 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2280 Lines: 68 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:41:26 -0500, Eugene A. Calame wrote: >On 23 Oct 2003 22:25:48 -0700, ttose@msn.com (Teddy) wrote: > >>ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message news:<3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net>... >>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon >>> wrote: >>> >>> >jingles wrote >>> >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless >>> >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... >>> >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... >>> >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice >>> >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the >>> >>>> location....... >>> >>>> >>> >>>> jingles >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod >>> >> >>> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... >>> >> >>> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the >>> >>legendary asp....? >>> >> >>> >>jingles >>> > >>> >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him >>> >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from >>> >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it >>> >ignominiously! >>> >-- >>> >Gordon >>> >>I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude to >>Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately talk >>about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he >>replied to someone else. He didn't leave ignominiously! He left making >>you look like an ill mannered oaf. >> >>Teddy > > >Don't know for sure of course, but I suspect that Rod and Teddy is the same >troll. > >That is OK. They/he/she are/is welcome as far as I am concerned. Possible I suppose....what a pity they don't put their talent to 'joining' rather than disrupting.... jingles > > >-- >Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com >Austin, Texas USA > >Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:37:57 GMT Message-ID: <3f997ec3.1426969@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-051.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.51) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067024280 33162544 203.87.44.51 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1398 Lines: 50 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:41:55 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:12:16 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>Oh Well wrote >>>>Geeze you liberals, how 'bout cutting us a little slack. Your complaints >>about >>>>President Bush's speech can be applied to all presidents at least in the >>modern >>>>era. We (conservatives) know how you feel about any of us, but don't make it >>so >>>>obvious, ok. >>>> >>>>Your imagination and intelligence is not showing. >>>> >>>Here we go again......... >>> >>>(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>"Once there was a little old ram, >>Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, >>Nothing could make that ram scram >>He kept butting that dam.. >>'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, >>Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... >>So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, >>Just remember that ram........" >> >>jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) >> >"Whoops! there goes a billion kilowatt dam"! >-- >Gordon "Once there was a little old ant, Thought he'd move a rubber tree plant, Everyone knows an ant, cant, move a rubber tree plant But he had high hopes, high hopes High apple pie in the sky hopes, So if you're feeling down, Don't you start to frown Just remember that ant........" jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <7tfmb.13501$Ec1.1195110@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:55:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.233 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067025347 32.103.153.233 (Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:55:47 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:55:47 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2726 Lines: 82 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net... > On 23 Oct 2003 22:25:48 -0700, ttose@msn.com (Teddy) wrote: > > >ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message news:<3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net>... > >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon > >> wrote: > >> > >> >jingles wrote > >> >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: > >> >> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless > >> >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... > >> >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... > >> >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice > >> >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the > >> >>>> location....... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> jingles > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod > >> >> > >> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... > >> >> > >> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the > >> >>legendary asp....? > >> >> > >> >>jingles > >> > > >> >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him > >> >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from > >> >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it > >> >ignominiously! > >> >-- > >> >Gordon > >> > >I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude to > >Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately talk > >about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he > >replied to someone else. He didn't leave ignominiously! He left making > >you look like an ill mannered oaf. > > > >Teddy > > Teddy, > I am sorry I have to correct you, but Rod announced his withdrawal > from the group in response to my post ..... in which I saw nothing > offensive. > > jingles Neither did I, in what either you or Gordon said. This reminds me very much of what happened recently in another newsgroup. Some strangers popped in and bandied words about, then one of them supposedly took offense and an innocent, if silly, joke. When people tried to remonstrate, he became offensive and his friends jumped in to attack. He concluded by threatening to destroy the group, and even bragged about his plan to do so on another group. We haven't heard from him or his friends since. When trolls are ignored for long enough, they decide it isn't any fun and go looking for someone else to torment. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: The President Speaks. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:57:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.233 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067025420 32.103.153.233 (Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:57:00 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:57:00 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 863 Lines: 36 "Jan Lancaster" wrote in message news:bnbtd2$jas$2@hercules.btinternet.com... > > > >> >Here we go again......... > > >> > > > >> >(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) > > >> >-- > > >> >Gordon > > >> > > >> "Once there was a little old ram, > > >> Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, > > >> Nothing could make that ram scram > > >> He kept butting that dam.. > > >> 'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, > > >> Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... > > >> So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, > > >> Just remember that ram........" > > >> > > >> jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) > > > > > >Are you refering to our Gordon as a ram? > > > > > I'm not a ram, I'm a ramma-ramma-dingdong....... > > -- > > Gordon > > oo ee oo ah ah ...... > > >^..^< > ***** ting tang walla walla bing-bang Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:05:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067038593 880 194.222.103.116 (24 Oct 2003 23:36:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:36:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 480 Lines: 22 Mike Clayton wrote >In message , Jan Lancaster > writes >>( apart from the sugestive ones to Mike & Gordon >> of course. ;-) I don't know what they did for the fellows >>but they cheered me up.) >> > >Suggestive ones? > >Mike? > >What have I been missing? > >Or was it another that shares my name? > >:-) I have no idea what she means! -- Gordon (Nibbling a suggestive biscuit) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:53 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:10:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067038595 880 194.222.103.116 (24 Oct 2003 23:36:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:36:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1065 Lines: 42 Yoj wrote >"Jan Lancaster" wrote in message >news:bnbtd2$jas$2@hercules.btinternet.com... >> >> > >> >Here we go again......... >> > >> > >> > >> >(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) >> > >> >-- >> > >> >Gordon >> > >> >> > >> "Once there was a little old ram, >> > >> Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, >> > >> Nothing could make that ram scram >> > >> He kept butting that dam.. >> > >> 'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, >> > >> Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... >> > >> So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, >> > >> Just remember that ram........" >> > >> >> > >> jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) >> > > >> > >Are you refering to our Gordon as a ram? >> > > >> > I'm not a ram, I'm a ramma-ramma-dingdong....... >> > -- >> > Gordon >> >> oo ee oo ah ah ...... >> >> >^..^< >> ***** > >ting tang walla walla bing-bang > >Joy > Don Lang* and the Frantic Five: "My Friend the Witch-doctor" *aka Don Langhorn, Ted Heath's trombonist, unless I'm mistaken... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:43:03 GMT Message-ID: <3f99b8d4.16294674@news.individual.net> References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> <7tfmb.13501$Ec1.1195110@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-051.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.51) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067038984 33465566 203.87.44.51 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2995 Lines: 90 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:55:47 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net... >> On 23 Oct 2003 22:25:48 -0700, ttose@msn.com (Teddy) wrote: >> >> >ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message >news:<3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net>... >> >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >jingles wrote >> >> >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) >wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the >mindless >> >> >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot >box.... >> >> >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... >> >> >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful >web......the nice >> >> >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the >> >> >>>> location....... >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> jingles >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have >moved on. Rod >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended >someone.... >> >> >> >> >> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the >> >> >>legendary asp....? >> >> >> >> >> >>jingles >> >> > >> >> >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain >to him >> >> >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email >from >> >> >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and >leaves it >> >> >ignominiously! >> >> >-- >> >> >Gordon >> >> >> >I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude >to >> >Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately >talk >> >about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he >> >replied to someone else. He didn't leave ignominiously! He left >making >> >you look like an ill mannered oaf. >> > >> >Teddy >> >> Teddy, >> I am sorry I have to correct you, but Rod announced his withdrawal >> from the group in response to my post ..... in which I saw nothing >> offensive. >> >> jingles > >Neither did I, in what either you or Gordon said. This reminds me very >much of what happened recently in another newsgroup. Some strangers >popped in and bandied words about, then one of them supposedly took >offense and an innocent, if silly, joke. When people tried to >remonstrate, he became offensive and his friends jumped in to attack. >He concluded by threatening to destroy the group, and even bragged about >his plan to do so on another group. We haven't heard from him or his >friends since. When trolls are ignored for long enough, they decide it >isn't any fun and go looking for someone else to torment. > >Joy Unfortunately, I didn't recognise him for a troll....guess we have been spoiled in this newsgroup..... jingles > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-129-235.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1067041850 28597 81.131.129.235 (25 Oct 2003 00:30:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:30:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1098 Lines: 47 "Yoj" wrote in message news:gufmb.13502$Ec1.1194747@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > "Jan Lancaster" wrote in message > news:bnbtd2$jas$2@hercules.btinternet.com... > > > > > >> >Here we go again......... > > > >> > > > > >> >(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) > > > >> >-- > > > >> >Gordon > > > >> > > > >> "Once there was a little old ram, > > > >> Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, > > > >> Nothing could make that ram scram > > > >> He kept butting that dam.. > > > >> 'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, > > > >> Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... > > > >> So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, > > > >> Just remember that ram........" > > > >> > > > >> jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) > > > > > > > >Are you refering to our Gordon as a ram? > > > > > > > I'm not a ram, I'm a ramma-ramma-dingdong....... > > > -- > > > Gordon > > > > oo ee oo ah ah ...... > > > > >^..^< > > ***** > > ting tang walla walla bing-bang > > Joy Thank God. . . It's not only me. :-)) >^..^< ***** > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f997cb5.901141@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-129-235.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1067042217 19963 81.131.129.235 (25 Oct 2003 00:36:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:36:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 562 Lines: 29 > > > >Don't know for sure of course, but I suspect that Rod and Teddy is the same > >troll. > > > >That is OK. They/he/she are/is welcome as far as I am concerned. > > Possible I suppose....what a pity they don't put their talent to > 'joining' rather than disrupting.... > > jingles Maybe they wandered in from the closed down teenage chat rooms. Their remarks resembled that age group anyway. >^..^< ***** > > > > > > >-- > >Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com > >Austin, Texas USA > > > >Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> <3f997ec3.1426969@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-129-235.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1067042361 29167 81.131.129.235 (25 Oct 2003 00:39:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:39:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1009 Lines: 44 > >>>> > >>>>Your imagination and intelligence is not showing. > >>>> > >>>Here we go again......... > >>> > >>>(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) > >>>-- > >>>Gordon > >> > >>"Once there was a little old ram, > >>Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, > >>Nothing could make that ram scram > >>He kept butting that dam.. > >>'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, > >>Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... > >>So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, > >>Just remember that ram........" > >> > >>jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) > >> > >"Whoops! there goes a billion kilowatt dam"! > >-- > >Gordon > "Once there was a little old ant, > Thought he'd move a rubber tree plant, > Everyone knows an ant, cant, move a rubber tree plant > > But he had high hopes, high hopes > High apple pie in the sky hopes, > So if you're feeling down, > Don't you start to frown > Just remember that ant........" > > jingles You two should make a demo, you sound good together. ;-) >^..^< ***** > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 01:07:55 GMT Message-ID: <3f99cc87.3362850@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> <3f997ec3.1426969@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-190.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.190) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067044078 32849631 203.87.45.190 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1280 Lines: 51 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:39:21 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >> >>>> >> >>>>Your imagination and intelligence is not showing. >> >>>> >> >>>Here we go again......... >> >>> >> >>>(I bet you wish you hadn't bothered, Jingles). :-) >> >>>-- >> >>>Gordon >> >> >> >>"Once there was a little old ram, >> >>Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, >> >>Nothing could make that ram scram >> >>He kept butting that dam.. >> >>'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, >> >>Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... >> >>So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, >> >>Just remember that ram........" >> >> >> >>jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) >> >> >> >"Whoops! there goes a billion kilowatt dam"! >> >-- >> >Gordon >> "Once there was a little old ant, >> Thought he'd move a rubber tree plant, >> Everyone knows an ant, cant, move a rubber tree plant >> >> But he had high hopes, high hopes >> High apple pie in the sky hopes, >> So if you're feeling down, >> Don't you start to frown >> Just remember that ant........" >> >> jingles > >You two should make a demo, >you sound good together. ;-) > >>^..^< >***** I am sure we could make beaurtiful music together,,(grin) jingles "You and me can we be buddies, You and me can we be friends,..." From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Jan Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:03:57 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.114.227 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1067047437 64.231.114.227 (Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:03:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:03:57 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Status: O Content-Length: 4462 Lines: 100 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:25:50 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >I have just watched the President of the United States of America >address the Australian Parliament. >In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard >him make. Which leads me to wonder whether the cutting by the media >and the presentation of 'snippets' of political speeches, really >reflects the actual content of the them. Taking perhaps much of it >out of context. This time I saw it as it was happening.... >The Opposition did not wear white armbands but chose to present a >letter to Mr Bush. >Two senators did interject and were removed from the House by the >seargent at arms....they returned after the speech finished and Mr >Bush was shaking hands with various senators....they were ejected a >second time. >Mr Bush did receive a standing ovation - but I personally think it was >an off-the-cuff remark that gave him the edge. During the second >interjection he grinned and said...."I love free speech"...... this >remark was met with a most enthusiastic and spontaneous round of >applause and one could almost feel the tension in the house relax. >Whether you approve of him or not....he undeniably acquitted himself >well. > The content was neither more nor less than was expected dealing as it >did with the war in Iraq, the fight against terrorism and the long and >historic association between Australia and the US. >A nice touch was the naming of the SAS Sergeant who was killed in >Afghanistan and the announcement that he would be laying a wreath in >his honour this afternoon. > >Just thought you would like to get an Australian point of view... > >jingles > > Jingles, Testing a new sig file and passing on another description of the speech which I found on a UK group. Any comments? I left your original in for comparison. By Kathy Marks in Sydney 24 October 2003 President George Bush was jeered and heckled yesterday during an address to the Australian parliament, in which he thanked the nation for its support in the war against Iraq. President Bush defended the American-led military action, claiming it was vindicated by the discovery in Iraq of secret biological laboratories and design work on prohibited long-range missiles. He said: "America, Australia and other nations acted in Iraq to remove a grave and gathering danger, instead of wishing and waiting while tragedy drew closer." Mr Bush hailed the Australian people for helping the US to "advance the ideals of democracy and freedom". The people, though, were unable to hear him deliver those compliments unless they switched on their television sets. As part of a massive security operation to protect Mr Bush, they were shut out of Parliament House for the first time in the country's history. With the public gallery closed, the job of expressing the anti-war sentiments of a substantial minority of Australians fell to two maverick senators, Bob Brown and Kerry Nettle. The pair, both members of the Green Party, were ejected from the chamber. Interrupted by them for the second time, Mr Bush said, smiling between gritted teeth: "I love free speech." Australia, which has fought alongside the US in every war of the past century, was one of the few countries to send troops to Iraq. Mr Bush praised the "bravery and skill" of its military, and described John Howard, the Prime Minister, as "a leader of except-ional courage". Mr Howard saluted "the character and the strength and the leadership of the man we welcome today". Among those listening to the mutual backslapping was Ahmed Habib, 18, whose father, Mamdouh, is one of two Australians detained in the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Mr Habib, in parliament as a guest of the Greens, was also thrown out, after shouting: "Hey Bush, what about my dad?" Only 2,000 or so demonstrators turned up, and they were kept 100 yards away, almost out of earshot. They were given permission to use microphones, but only if they pointed the speakers away from the building. Inside, most people listened politely and clapped- even opposition MPs, who had threatened to turn their backs on the President. Mr Bush, who spent just 20 hours in Australia, his final stop on a whirlwind tour of Asia, added: "The terrorists cannot be appeased. They must be found, and they must be fought, and they must be defeated." http://news.independent.co.uk/world/australasia/story.jsp?story=456627 Jan From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:44:27 GMT Message-ID: <3f99e143.8671081@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-190.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.190) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067049869 32498460 203.87.45.190 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 5230 Lines: 123 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:03:57 -0400, Jan wrote: >On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:25:50 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > >>I have just watched the President of the United States of America >>address the Australian Parliament. >>In fairness I must say that it is the best speech I have ever heard >>him make. Which leads me to wonder whether the cutting by the media >>and the presentation of 'snippets' of political speeches, really >>reflects the actual content of the them. Taking perhaps much of it >>out of context. This time I saw it as it was happening.... >>The Opposition did not wear white armbands but chose to present a >>letter to Mr Bush. >>Two senators did interject and were removed from the House by the >>seargent at arms....they returned after the speech finished and Mr >>Bush was shaking hands with various senators....they were ejected a >>second time. >>Mr Bush did receive a standing ovation - but I personally think it was >>an off-the-cuff remark that gave him the edge. During the second >>interjection he grinned and said...."I love free speech"...... this >>remark was met with a most enthusiastic and spontaneous round of >>applause and one could almost feel the tension in the house relax. >>Whether you approve of him or not....he undeniably acquitted himself >>well. >> The content was neither more nor less than was expected dealing as it >>did with the war in Iraq, the fight against terrorism and the long and >>historic association between Australia and the US. >>A nice touch was the naming of the SAS Sergeant who was killed in >>Afghanistan and the announcement that he would be laying a wreath in >>his honour this afternoon. >> >>Just thought you would like to get an Australian point of view... >> >>jingles >> >> >Jingles, >Testing a new sig file and passing on another description of the >speech which I found on a UK group. Any comments? I left your >original in for comparison. >By Kathy Marks in Sydney >24 October 2003 > > >President George Bush was jeered and heckled yesterday during an >address to the Australian parliament, in which he thanked the nation >for its support in the war against Iraq. Some media exageration here....Bob Brown interjected twice..... > >President Bush defended the American-led military action, claiming it >was vindicated by the discovery in Iraq of secret biological >laboratories and design work on prohibited long-range missiles. Correct.... > >He said: "America, Australia and other nations acted in Iraq to remove >a grave and gathering danger, instead of wishing and waiting while >tragedy drew closer." > >Mr Bush hailed the Australian people for helping the US to "advance >the ideals of democracy and freedom". > Correct... >The people, though, were unable to hear him deliver those compliments >unless they switched on their television sets. As part of a massive >security operation to protect Mr Bush, they were shut out of >Parliament House for the first time in the country's history. It was the responsibility of the Australian Government to take appropriate action to protect the person of the President of the United States.... A complete coverage was provided live on television.... > >With the public gallery closed, the job of expressing the anti-war >sentiments of a substantial minority of Australians fell to two >maverick senators, Bob Brown and Kerry Nettle. The pair, both members >of the Green Party, were ejected from the chamber. Interrupted by them >for the second time, Mr Bush said, smiling between gritted teeth: "I >love free speech." I would have hardley described it as between 'gritted teeth' his words and actions earned him a round of applause. > >Australia, which has fought alongside the US in every war of the past >century, was one of the few countries to send troops to Iraq. Mr Bush >praised the "bravery and skill" of its military, and described John >Howard, the Prime Minister, as "a leader of except-ional courage". And rightly so..... > >Mr Howard saluted "the character and the strength and the leadership >of the man we welcome today". Among those listening to the mutual >backslapping was Ahmed Habib, 18, whose father, Mamdouh, is one of two >Australians detained in the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay, >Cuba. Mr Habib, in parliament as a guest of the Greens, was also >thrown out, after shouting: "Hey Bush, what about my dad?" Although I watched and listened to the entire coverage, I confess that I did not hear this interjection......this does not mean that it did not occur.... >Only 2,000 or so demonstrators turned up, and they were kept 100 yards >away, almost out of earshot. > >They were given permission to use microphones, but only if they >pointed the speakers away from the building. Inside, most people >listened politely and clapped- even opposition MPs, who had threatened >to turn their backs on the President. > >Mr Bush, who spent just 20 hours in Australia, his final stop on a >whirlwind tour of Asia, added: "The terrorists cannot be appeased. >They must be found, and they must be fought, and they must be >defeated." > >http://news.independent.co.uk/world/australasia/story.jsp?story=456627 > >Jan jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> <7tfmb.13501$Ec1.1195110@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f99b8d4.16294674@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:47:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.77 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067050032 32.103.153.77 (Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:47:12 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:47:12 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 3316 Lines: 103 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f99b8d4.16294674@news.individual.net... > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:55:47 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > >"jingles" wrote in message > >news:3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net... > >> On 23 Oct 2003 22:25:48 -0700, ttose@msn.com (Teddy) wrote: > >> > >> >ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message > >news:<3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net>... > >> >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >jingles wrote > >> >> >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) > >wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the > >mindless > >> >> >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot > >box.... > >> >> >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... > >> >> >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful > >web......the nice > >> >> >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the > >> >> >>>> location....... > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> jingles > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have > >moved on. Rod > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended > >someone.... > >> >> >> > >> >> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the > >> >> >>legendary asp....? > >> >> >> > >> >> >>jingles > >> >> > > >> >> >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain > >to him > >> >> >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email > >from > >> >> >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and > >leaves it > >> >> >ignominiously! > >> >> >-- > >> >> >Gordon > >> >> > >> >I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude > >to > >> >Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately > >talk > >> >about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he > >> >replied to someone else. He didn't leave ignominiously! He left > >making > >> >you look like an ill mannered oaf. > >> > > >> >Teddy > >> > >> Teddy, > >> I am sorry I have to correct you, but Rod announced his withdrawal > >> from the group in response to my post ..... in which I saw nothing > >> offensive. > >> > >> jingles > > > >Neither did I, in what either you or Gordon said. This reminds me very > >much of what happened recently in another newsgroup. Some strangers > >popped in and bandied words about, then one of them supposedly took > >offense and an innocent, if silly, joke. When people tried to > >remonstrate, he became offensive and his friends jumped in to attack. > >He concluded by threatening to destroy the group, and even bragged about > >his plan to do so on another group. We haven't heard from him or his > >friends since. When trolls are ignored for long enough, they decide it > >isn't any fun and go looking for someone else to torment. > > > >Joy > > Unfortunately, I didn't recognise him for a troll....guess we have > been spoiled in this newsgroup..... > > jingles Sometimes it takes a while to recognize them. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:14:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <16965-3F8AC5D1-167@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp217.tc-12.alb-pt.ny.localnet.com (66.153.15.217) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067055443 32881541 66.153.15.217 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 440 Lines: 19 "Gordon" wrote > >> So did I. That's a price you pay for getting old. :-) > >> Gordon > > > >LOL! > >"Growing old is like being increasingly penalized > > for a crime you haven't committed." > > -Anthony Powell (1905-2000) English novelist > >> http://littlecalamity.tripod.com/Quotes/Aging.html > >---Sea > > I'm innocent, I tell you! > Gordon You? Innocent? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:30:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> <3f997ec3.1426969@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067081802 15745 194.222.103.116 (25 Oct 2003 11:36:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:36:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 938 Lines: 34 Jan Lancaster wrote > >> >>"Once there was a little old ram, >> >>Thought he'd bust a hole in a dam, >> >>Nothing could make that ram scram >> >>He kept butting that dam.. >> >>'Cos he had high hopes, high hopes, >> >>Hi apple pie in the sky hopes... >> >>So when your feeling low, 'stead of letting go, >> >>Just remember that ram........" >> >> >> >>jingles courtesy of der bingle....(I think) >> >> >> >"Whoops! there goes a billion kilowatt dam"! >> >-- >> >Gordon >> "Once there was a little old ant, >> Thought he'd move a rubber tree plant, >> Everyone knows an ant, cant, move a rubber tree plant >> >> But he had high hopes, high hopes >> High apple pie in the sky hopes, >> So if you're feeling down, >> Don't you start to frown >> Just remember that ant........" >> >> jingles > >You two should make a demo, >you sound good together. ;-) > A video? In some sun-drenched paradise? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:33:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067081803 15745 194.222.103.116 (25 Oct 2003 11:36:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:36:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1151 Lines: 31 Jan wrote >Jingles, >Testing a new sig file and passing on another description of the >speech which I found on a UK group. Any comments? I left your >original in for comparison. >By Kathy Marks in Sydney >24 October 2003 > > >President George Bush was jeered and heckled yesterday during an >address to the Australian parliament, in which he thanked the nation >for its support in the war against Iraq. > [....] >The people, though, were unable to hear him deliver those compliments >unless they switched on their television sets. As part of a massive >security operation to protect Mr Bush, they were shut out of >Parliament House for the first time in the country's history. > >With the public gallery closed, the job of expressing the anti-war >sentiments of a substantial minority of Australians fell to two >maverick senators, Bob Brown and Kerry Nettle. The pair, both members >of the Green Party, were ejected from the chamber. Interrupted by them >for the second time, Mr Bush said, smiling between gritted teeth: "I >love free speech." > Interesting to hear another point of view. ;-) Free speech? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ttose@msn.com (Teddy) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 25 Oct 2003 03:05:11 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.9.134.142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1067076312 15188 127.0.0.1 (25 Oct 2003 10:05:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1450 Lines: 32 I am not a troll and I am nort Rod. I do have a Hotmail adress so does Rod so do a 150 million others. You are all defending bad maners. It is rude and insulting to answer someone by talking about something different. It like the weapons of mass destruction debate. I suggest that Gordon stop insulting others and then turn around when he’s are called on it and pretending he’s the offended party. We have better manners in our Philadelphia schoolyards. He shouts about Rod’s Christian beliefs but is okay for him to tell the Anglican church what to do. He thinks he is free to make sexual innuendoes I suggest that you learn from me if you are going to insult others don’t expect to be immune. English Fair Play is a fine expression. It justifies the bashing of the puny draper's assistant by the big hairy blacksmith, and this to the perfect satisfaction of both parties, if they are worthy of the name of Englishman. Joseph Furphy. Gordon should rest his pompous case somewhere else. His plan B sucks is rude plain rude. How would you like it if your posts were answered with my dinner menu or the Philadelphia weather? BTW Concorde's Last Flight was Friday October 24 2003. Manchester, Belfast, Birmingham, Cardiff and Edinburgh are only part of the tour of Britain. He should at least get the facts straight if he can’t get his manners right www.britishairways.com/concorde/tourofbritain.html Teddy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:32:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067078060 34260358 217.137.174.47 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 876 Lines: 35 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:09:21 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: >.....but I will not argue politics with you.... >> >> >>jingles - who now has to carry the can. >> >> >>***************************************** >> >> >>I'm with you. BYW, what do you have in your can? Jeanette >> >> > >> >> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >> >> > >> >> >jingles >> >> >> >> >> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >> >> >> >> Lanky. >> > >> >Wriggle out of that one. >> > >> >>^..^< >> >***** >> > >> Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? >> >> Lanky > >Humour me, my brain is tired. > >>^..^< >***** > One of Arthur Askey's silly little songs was about a wriggly worm. Jingles remembers it, she has a memory like an elephant; but there the similarity ends I hasten to add (for protection). Lanky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:32:42 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f997a63.307528@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067078059 34260358 217.137.174.47 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 675 Lines: 34 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:43 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:10:55 +0100, Lanky wrote: >>>> > >>>> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >>>> > >>>> >jingles >>>> >> >>>> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >>>> >>>> Lanky. >>> >>>Wriggle out of that one. >>> >>>>^..^< >>>***** >>> >>Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? >> >>Lanky > > >" I'm just a dear little wriggly worm...." > >Morning Lanky mi owd mate.... > >jingles > Morning jingles mi owd mucker. It's right what they say about the early bird. One of Arthur's lesser known songs I think. Lanky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:54 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:30:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067100908 9075 194.222.103.116 (25 Oct 2003 16:55:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:55:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 123 Lines: 9 Teddy wrote >I am not a troll LOL! The rest of that astonishing diatribe. and *PLONK* -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Clock diddlin' day Date: 25 Oct 2003 15:01:58 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ap-028txhousp0378.dialsprint.net (65.179.193.124) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067094118 33969416 65.179.193.124 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 336 Lines: 10 Folks all over the planet will be adjusting their clocks tonight. America & Europe will set the hands back one hour whilst Oz and many others in the southern hemisphere will set the hands ahead by one hour. Dink -- N 30.21, W 97.81 Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. ~~ Groucho Marx From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:21:06 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <27751-3F9A94E2-226@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ+UOUuzCRVMvLtZL5AUsM6vJlx0wIUPc7kXBAKqKZfmZ5kTXsVVSVDoeg= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 300 Lines: 6 Gordon wrote: "They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. =A0 ;-)" ******************************************* Some never ACT as they're over 20! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f997a63.307528@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-123-162.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1067095322 10531 81.131.123.162 (25 Oct 2003 15:22:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:22:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 899 Lines: 44 "Lanky" wrote in message news:chikpvo865ujjv57ifa8pafol3luuu1nl6@4ax.com... > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:43 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) > wrote: > > >On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:10:55 +0100, Lanky wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... > >>>> > > >>>> >jingles > >>>> >> > >>>> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. > >>>> > >>>> Lanky. > >>> > >>>Wriggle out of that one. > >>> > >>>>^..^< > >>>***** > >>> > >>Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? > >> > >>Lanky > > > > > >" I'm just a dear little wriggly worm...." > > > >Morning Lanky mi owd mate.... > > > >jingles > > > Morning jingles mi owd mucker. It's right what they say about the > early bird. > One of Arthur's lesser known songs I think. > > Lanky But the second mouse gets the cheese. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-123-162.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1067095324 10531 81.131.123.162 (25 Oct 2003 15:22:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:22:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 729 Lines: 37 > >> >> > > >> >> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... > >> >> > > >> >> >jingles > >> >> >> > >> >> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. > >> >> > >> >> Lanky. > >> > > >> >Wriggle out of that one. > >> > > >> >>^..^< > >> >***** > >> > > >> Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? > >> > >> Lanky > > > >Humour me, my brain is tired. > > > >>^..^< > >***** > > > One of Arthur Askey's silly little songs was about a wriggly worm. > Jingles remembers it, she has a memory like an elephant; but there the > similarity ends I hasten to add (for protection). > > Lanky No. Nothing. Only the busy busy bee. Of course I am one of the babies of this group. . . ;-)) >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:25:17 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <27753-3F9A95DD-33@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRROg1rqOHGA+ZtdbB5pdgGjQcs/gIVAI0qPQpPpc5tNOgvNzT1WDWTnqCj Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 275 Lines: 25 Gordon wrote: "People with glass ceilings...... (wait for it) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. shouldn't stow thrones. (upstairs)" *************************************** Oh, my goodness no, unless they're prepared to be hit by the stone on the way down! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:37:46 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <27753-3F9A98CA-34@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <+YGXtNA82Yj$EwaK@g3snx.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAoml7d4flvq7qbeekD5EbHTQKGHICFGAa6986QLlNUd2R5/hepWETjj0z Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 421 Lines: 10 Jeanette S. said: "I said previously my skin looked splotchy - weird is a better word! The only way I can describe it is to say it looked "fluffy". to which Gordonreplied: "You have culture, then?" ************************************** Fluffy is cultured? Maybe very very very dry skin, where you look as though you've gotten a bad sunburn and the skin has lost its redness and is reduced to peeling off! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:41:17 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <27752-3F9A999D-87@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <6w0hf1rj9jv9.dlg@copelands.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRI3t+KHCzpztQNaomXdTFS4hthFAIUFmldxJ0scGr6K8MmatrDBuclBAg= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 344 Lines: 8 Va wrote: "Clotted cream is very thick fresh buttery type cream - not sweet or sour - just rich and creamy. I just love it on top of vanilla ice cream in a cone - to die for - sigh .......!" *********************************** O.K., must be like whiped cream; here in the states, we add a bit of sugar, and it is truely delicious! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Concorde's last Flight Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:48:35 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <27752-3F9A9B53-88@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAth2wxYbp3FPgqDi6Ogun8cxTvX8CFCWqeQeqXzsMY9b696w4wEBC62Uw Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 905 Lines: 17 Gordon wrote: "I watched moist-eyed tonight as Concorde was seen taking off from Manchester Airport for it's last flight. A magnificent sight, as she took off like a beautiful but hook-nosed bird, never destined to make huge profits for the airlines, but what an engineering achievement. =A0 =A0 The only supersonic airliner built, as others were abandoned, and an Anglo-French achievement of which I am proud . . . . The sight of those four afterburners winking as she disappeared into the haze was awesome. Apparently all the approach roads to the airport were jammed as people flocked to see her. I flocked to the TV...." ********************************************** Indeed she did look like a bird poised to pounce on her prey. It was a grand sight! I was surprised to hear the interior cabin was only 9 feet wide, but it was designed for speed, wasn't it. Sad passing of an era! Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:01:32 -0500 (CDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <27752-3F9A9E5C-89@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <_HCkb.3685$S52.1344@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUArl3GgE86voh0WEBDj4nelRY4vLICFQCwQ0oE5Zl8oEXpBYZ/w8lDNiIb6g== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 536 Lines: 11 Bob wrote: "Errrr, what was it I said that lead you to believe that I don't?" ******************************** Stating that illegals come over here to have their babies on "Medicare". I've never heard of a woman having a baby while on Medicare. It would be highly publicized, don't you think? I'm not saying it's impossible, but strange. I think you meant "Medicaid". And, yes it frosts me, that so many illegals can have their babies in the U.S. and get away with it,going on to have more "free" babies. (To them anyway!) Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <19061-3F97EA18-233@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:54:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.195 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1067100895 171.75.14.195 (Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:54:55 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:54:55 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 468 Lines: 20 "Gordon" wrote in message news:exNPXLAHXBm$EwEP@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Jeanette S. wrote > >bob wrote: ""Contentious" being defined as?????????? > >cheers" > >************************************** > >Testy? Jeanette > > > Controversial. Ain't you guys got a dictionary? > It wasn't my own definition of the term I was questioning. You have often posted quite controversial things, as I recall. grin bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: I want to puke X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:55:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.195 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1067100901 171.75.14.195 (Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:55:01 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:55:01 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 2200 Lines: 69 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net... > On 23 Oct 2003 22:25:48 -0700, ttose@msn.com (Teddy) wrote: > > >ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message news:<3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net>... > >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:01:03 +0100, Gordon > >> wrote: > >> > >> >jingles wrote > >> >>On 22 Oct 2003 02:59:46 -0700, paulroddick_32@msn.com (Rod) wrote: > >> >> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> One of the mindless blatherers..... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> It occurs to me that some of us like to participate in the mindless > >> >>>> blather rather than have it spoon fed to us via the idiot box.... > >> >>>> But as I so frequently say.....whatever turns you on.... > >> >>>> There is room for us all on the big wide beautiful web......the nice > >> >>>> part is that we can always move on if we don't like the > >> >>>> location....... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> jingles > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>>Thank you for the advice. I have not been here long. I have moved on. Rod > >> >> > >> >>Oh dear.....it seems that I have inadvertently offended someone.... > >> >> > >> >>What did I say which prompted Rod to hug it to his bosom like the > >> >>legendary asp....? > >> >> > >> >>jingles > >> > > >> >Don't lose any sleep over it, Jingles. After trying to explain to him > >> >how he might have misunderstood you, I received an insulting email from > >> >him. He entered the froup spouting Christian rhetoric and leaves it > >> >ignominiously! > >> >-- > >> >Gordon > >> > >I have lurked on this group for about 10 weeks. You were very rude to > >Rod you belittled him. He writes about one thing You deliberately talk > >about the weather. It didn't look like Christian rhetoric to me he > >replied to someone else. He didn't leave ignominiously! He left making > >you look like an ill mannered oaf. > > > >Teddy > > Teddy, > I am sorry I have to correct you, but Rod announced his withdrawal > from the group in response to my post ..... in which I saw nothing > offensive. > There was nothing offensive in your post. As Gordon said, don't let it bother you. We loves ya, bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <5c94pvc523o1lflcpgadneeqpqptdmojm8@4ax.com> <735-3F95A235-252@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: And here's another on X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:55:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.195 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net 1067100902 171.75.14.195 (Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:55:02 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:55:02 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 1009 Lines: 35 "Yoj" wrote in message news:J8Vlb.11965$Ec1.1082338@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > "Bob Thomas" wrote in message > news:qjSlb.2869$wc3.101@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > "Olly Mensch" wrote in message > > news:735-3F95A235-252@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net... > > > Eugene - I must have a severe identity crisis - now I am Oilly > (!!) - as > > > if Olly is not bad enough - and that is not my real name. Gordon > and I > > > have a love/hate relationship; I don't know what happened to the > first > > > part?!! Who cares!! > > > There are bigger things to worry about. > > > See you later - - Olly (no oil - the oil is all in Iraq!!!!!!!) > > > > Perhaps we should stop importing oil from the Middle East and suck > Alaska > > dry. Caribou can't hijack airplanes. grin > > > > cheers > > > > bob > > True, but you need to watch out for those moose. > What's more than one moose, btw, Meese?? cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:55 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Concorde's last Flight Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <27752-3F9A9B53-88@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-181-154.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1067109600 2831 81.131.181.154 (25 Oct 2003 19:20:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:20:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1321 Lines: 30 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:27752-3F9A9B53-88@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... Gordon wrote: "I watched moist-eyed tonight as Concorde was seen taking off from Manchester Airport for it's last flight. A magnificent sight, as she took off like a beautiful but hook-nosed bird, never destined to make huge profits for the airlines, but what an engineering achievement. The only supersonic airliner built, as others were abandoned, and an Anglo-French achievement of which I am proud . . . . The sight of those four afterburners winking as she disappeared into the haze was awesome. Apparently all the approach roads to the airport were jammed as people flocked to see her. I flocked to the TV...." ********************************************** Indeed she did look like a bird poised to pounce on her prey. It was a grand sight! I was surprised to hear the interior cabin was only 9 feet wide, but it was designed for speed, wasn't it. Sad passing of an era! Jeanette I, like thousands of others, would have loved to fly on Concorde, but like those others, could never have afforded it. I might as well give up doing the lottery now. My only consolation is that I have seen all the Concorde aircraft apart from one of the French ones. A sad day indeed. :-( >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <27751-3F9A94E2-226@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-181-154.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1067109601 2831 81.131.181.154 (25 Oct 2003 19:20:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:20:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 512 Lines: 16 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:27751-3F9A94E2-226@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... Gordon wrote: "They ogle the 18 year old waitress, and notice that the 'big girl' I flirt with has varicose veins. I think that some men never see themselves as they are, and think they are still 20. ;-)" ******************************************* Some never ACT as they're over 20! Jeanette Looks like a world wide trait then, thought it was just round our way. >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <27752-3F9ADF4A-101@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f997bad.637233@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQQtAEX66iqbdN225hNIdXT5y63WgIUEQmbiD/8/dwrPJAJ6fA8FCu15t4= Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 1041 Lines: 19 Jingles - - you forgot that, when we get old, we may wear purple!! What could be more inspirational than that!! Talk about inspirational!!. My son came to visit; told me he can hardly ever reach me, since I am always on the web. My web is connected so that, when in use, the telephone will not work. Well, since all my friends are gone, that suits me fine; does not bother me. He (my son) said, let me take a look at those groups where you participate , to see whether they are as interesting as you told me!!! (Checking up on dear old Mom??!!) I said:"fine." Turned ,to begin with, before turning to the other groups I occasionally join, to alt.sixtplus, and - lo and behold - the topic was :"I want to puke." Hundreds of titles, all stating:"I want to puke." He looked at me in utter disbelief - and said, turn the darn thing off - how could you!!! Let's talk." Well, we did talk,and I "explained" to him what some of the attractions might be in belonging to a newsgroup (s), despite the charming title of "I want to puke.!" Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:05:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <+YGXtNA82Yj$EwaK@g3snx.demon.co.uk> <27753-3F9A98CA-34@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067117498 2787 194.222.103.116 (25 Oct 2003 21:31:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:31:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 592 Lines: 15 Jeanette S. wrote >Jeanette S. said: "I said previously my skin looked splotchy - weird is >a better word! The only way I can describe it is to say it looked >"fluffy". >to which Gordonreplied: >"You have culture, then?" >************************************** >Fluffy is cultured? Maybe very very very dry skin, where you look as >though you've gotten a bad sunburn and the skin has lost its redness and >is reduced to peeling off! Jeanette > I meant like furry culture! If you leave a little bread around it eventually gets furry/fluffy. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:25:57 GMT Message-ID: <3f9aea3e.2160182@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> <3f997ec3.1426969@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067117162 33778021 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 270 Lines: 14 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:30:17 +0100, Gordon wrote: >> >>You two should make a demo, >>you sound good together. ;-) >> >A video? In some sun-drenched paradise? >-- >Gordon Hang on while I grab my bathers and sun tan lotion... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:31:12 GMT Message-ID: <3f9aeae4.2326406@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067117474 34441390 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 420 Lines: 20 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:33:54 +0100, Gordon wrote: >> >Interesting to hear another point of view. ;-) > >Free speech? >-- >Gordon A dicey one this Gordon...... \"Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to close the public gallery and ensure the safety of the Head of another country, Or open it and risk him being abused and possibly physically attacked.....Aye! there's the rub..." jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:33:06 +0100 Message-ID: <5O42IKASwum$EwSO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> <3f997ec3.1426969@news.individual.net> <3f9aea3e.2160182@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067117937 3503 194.222.103.116 (25 Oct 2003 21:38:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:38:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 412 Lines: 20 jingles wrote >On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:30:17 +0100, Gordon >wrote: >>> >>>You two should make a demo, >>>you sound good together. ;-) >>> >>A video? In some sun-drenched paradise? >>-- >>Gordon > >Hang on while I grab my bathers and sun tan lotion... > >jingles Sorry! I got eight email offers without bathers! Another time maybe..... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:34:03 GMT Message-ID: <3f9aebfc.2606322@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067117645 34441390 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 374 Lines: 12 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:32:43 +0100, Lanky wrote: >> >One of Arthur Askey's silly little songs was about a wriggly worm. >Jingles remembers it, she has a memory like an elephant; but there the >similarity ends I hasten to add (for protection). > >Lanky That's 'cos mi mum went into labour at the circus..... jingles (you'll keep Lanky ) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:42:27 GMT Message-ID: <3f9aec81.2739176@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f997a63.307528@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067118149 34463326 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 951 Lines: 44 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:32:42 +0100, Lanky wrote: >On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:43 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >wrote: > >>On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:10:55 +0100, Lanky wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >>>>> > >>>>> >jingles >>>>> >> >>>>> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >>>>> >>>>> Lanky. >>>> >>>>Wriggle out of that one. >>>> >>>>>^..^< >>>>***** >>>> >>>Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? >>> >>>Lanky >> >> >>" I'm just a dear little wriggly worm...." >> >>Morning Lanky mi owd mate.... >> >>jingles >> >Morning jingles mi owd mucker. It's right what they say about the >early bird. >One of Arthur's lesser known songs I think. > >Lanky Been trying to remember the second line ...... something - something - from stem to stern.... jingles (darn it! my short-term memory is getting the the way again....) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:43:19 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3f9aeae4.2326406@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067121859 8369 194.222.103.116 (25 Oct 2003 22:44:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:44:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 825 Lines: 31 jingles wrote >On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:33:54 +0100, Gordon >wrote: > >>> >>Interesting to hear another point of view. ;-) >> >>Free speech? >>-- >>Gordon > >A dicey one this Gordon...... > >\"Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to close the public gallery >and ensure the safety of the Head of another country, >Or open it and risk him being abused and possibly physically >attacked.....Aye! there's the rub..." > >jingles > How many British Prime Ministers have been the victims of assassination, and how many attempts. I can only remember one - the Brighton bombing attempt on Maggie Thatcher. How many American presidents? Lincoln, Kennedy......? In which country were they assassinated. Ahh! There's the rub! have any been killed on foreign soil? -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:49:16 GMT Message-ID: <3f9aeee2.3348438@news.individual.net> References: <3f997bad.637233@news.individual.net> <27752-3F9ADF4A-101@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067118558 31768333 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1602 Lines: 34 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:38:34 -0400 (EDT), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >Jingles - - you forgot that, when we get old, we may wear purple!! What >could be more inspirational than that!! >Talk about inspirational!!. My son came to visit; told me he can >hardly ever reach me, since I am always on the web. My web is connected >so that, when in use, the telephone will not work. Well, since all my >friends are gone, that suits me fine; does not bother me. >He (my son) said, let me take a look at those groups where you >participate , to see whether they are as interesting as you told me!!! >(Checking up on dear old Mom??!!) I said:"fine." Turned ,to begin with, >before turning to the other groups I occasionally join, to >alt.sixtplus, and - lo and behold - the topic was :"I want to puke." >Hundreds of titles, all stating:"I want to puke." He looked at me in >utter disbelief - and said, turn the darn thing off - how could you!!! >Let's talk." >Well, we did talk,and I "explained" to him what some of the attractions >might be in belonging to a newsgroup (s), despite the charming title of >"I want to puke.!" >Olly > Wouldn't dare let my son look at the posts on sixtyplus.....he would think I was depraved.....(which I would like to be, but lack opportunities). He thinks his mum is a dear old lady who sits with her 'tatting' and occasionally reads a not too 'naughty' book.... Why must they assume that our interests and thoughts age, just because our bodies do? The only compensation is the thought that he too will grow old and cop the same 'flak' . jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:51:06 GMT Message-ID: <3f9af017.3657495@news.individual.net> References: <3c122aad.0310210737.3f98718@posting.google.com> <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> <3f98e60e.5096967@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067118668 31768333 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 234 Lines: 14 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:55:01 GMT, "Bob Thomas" wrote: >> >There was nothing offensive in your post. As Gordon said, don't let it >bother you. > >We loves ya, > >bob Thank you.....I love you too.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Clock diddlin' day Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:59:12 GMT Message-ID: <3f9af13d.3951421@news.individual.net> References: Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067119154 31768333 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1052 Lines: 26 On 25 Oct 2003 15:01:58 GMT, Dink wrote: >Folks all over the planet will be adjusting their clocks tonight. >America & Europe will set the hands back one hour whilst Oz and >many others in the southern hemisphere will set the hands ahead >by one hour. > >Dink >-- >N 30.21, W 97.81 >Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too >dark to read. ~~ Groucho Marx My biological clock never seems to adjust to the time changes..... This morning I awoke and looked at the clock and there it was 7.15am. and everybody knows I rise at 6.15am. Last night husband was busily going around changing the time on all the clocks a time consuming (ha! ha!) task. My solution would be to stick post-it notes on all the clocks announcing that they were an hour slow.....this would only last for six months of the year, then you could go round and pull them all off again. Much quicker and easier than changing the clocks twice a year.... But do you think my husband sees the sense in the suggestion? Nah! jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:56 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f9aebfc.2606322@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-89-88.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1067121424 17927 81.131.89.88 (25 Oct 2003 22:37:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:37:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 608 Lines: 22 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f9aebfc.2606322@news.individual.net... > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:32:43 +0100, Lanky wrote: > >> > >One of Arthur Askey's silly little songs was about a wriggly worm. > >Jingles remembers it, she has a memory like an elephant; but there the > >similarity ends I hasten to add (for protection). > > > >Lanky > > That's 'cos mi mum went into labour at the circus..... > > jingles (you'll keep Lanky ) And mine was at the pictures watching Bambi. But it didn't stop her watching right to the end. > >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:24:22 GMT Message-ID: <3f9b05ca.9213149@news.individual.net> References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f9aebfc.2606322@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067124264 34513245 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 863 Lines: 28 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:37:04 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f9aebfc.2606322@news.individual.net... >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:32:43 +0100, Lanky wrote: >> >> >> >One of Arthur Askey's silly little songs was about a wriggly worm. >> >Jingles remembers it, she has a memory like an elephant; but there the >> >similarity ends I hasten to add (for protection). >> > >> >Lanky >> >> That's 'cos mi mum went into labour at the circus..... >> >> jingles (you'll keep Lanky ) > >And mine was at the pictures watching Bambi. But it didn't >stop her watching right to the end. >> >>^..^< >***** And my daughter was watching a Sci Fi movie at the Cinema.....we tried to make her leave and she wouldn't until it finished.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:25:44 GMT Message-ID: <3f9b0657.9354268@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3F9743D0.84443FE4@batnet.com> <3f9755b0.27608660@news.individual.net> <3f9879b7.7751675@news.individual.net> <3f997ec3.1426969@news.individual.net> <3f9aea3e.2160182@news.individual.net> <5O42IKASwum$EwSO@g3snx.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067124346 34513245 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 578 Lines: 28 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:33:06 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:30:17 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >>>> >>>>You two should make a demo, >>>>you sound good together. ;-) >>>> >>>A video? In some sun-drenched paradise? >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>Hang on while I grab my bathers and sun tan lotion... >> >>jingles > >Sorry! I got eight email offers without bathers! > >Another time maybe..... >-- >Gordon But isn't the best always kept under the counter? jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:27:41 GMT Message-ID: <3f9b06b7.9451003@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3f9aeae4.2326406@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067124463 34513245 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 990 Lines: 39 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:43:19 +0100, Gordon wrote: >jingles wrote >>On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:33:54 +0100, Gordon >>wrote: >> >>>> >>>Interesting to hear another point of view. ;-) >>> >>>Free speech? >>>-- >>>Gordon >> >>A dicey one this Gordon...... >> >>\"Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to close the public gallery >>and ensure the safety of the Head of another country, >>Or open it and risk him being abused and possibly physically >>attacked.....Aye! there's the rub..." >> >>jingles >> >How many British Prime Ministers have been the victims of assassination, >and how many attempts. I can only remember one - the Brighton bombing >attempt on Maggie Thatcher. > >How many American presidents? Lincoln, Kennedy......? > >In which country were they assassinated. > >Ahh! There's the rub! have any been killed on foreign soil? >-- >Gordon But how many of them have visited Australia? jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:36:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3f997bad.637233@news.individual.net> <27752-3F9ADF4A-101@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-118-138.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.118.138) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067124997 34351847 68.79.118.138 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 1193 Lines: 24 Did you tell him that the stated Subject rarely matches the actual subject after a few replies? Olly Mensch wrote: | Jingles - - you forgot that, when we get old, we may wear purple!! | What could be more inspirational than that!! | Talk about inspirational!!. My son came to visit; told me he can | hardly ever reach me, since I am always on the web. My web is | connected so that, when in use, the telephone will not work. Well, | since all my friends are gone, that suits me fine; does not bother me. | He (my son) said, let me take a look at those groups where you | participate , to see whether they are as interesting as you told me!!! | (Checking up on dear old Mom??!!) I said:"fine." Turned ,to begin | with, before turning to the other groups I occasionally join, to | alt.sixtplus, and - lo and behold - the topic was :"I want to puke." | Hundreds of titles, all stating:"I want to puke." He looked at me in | utter disbelief - and said, turn the darn thing off - how could you!!! | Let's talk." | Well, we did talk,and I "explained" to him what some of the | attractions might be in belonging to a newsgroup (s), despite the | charming title of "I want to puke.!" | Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: The President Speaks. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <7yFmb.193651$0v4.15017960@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:36:03 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.184 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067132163 32.103.153.184 (Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:36:03 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:36:03 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1847 Lines: 47 "Gordon" wrote in message news:VDwtLsAyVjm$EwnP@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Jan wrote > >Jingles, > >Testing a new sig file and passing on another description of the > >speech which I found on a UK group. Any comments? I left your > >original in for comparison. > >By Kathy Marks in Sydney > >24 October 2003 > > > > > >President George Bush was jeered and heckled yesterday during an > >address to the Australian parliament, in which he thanked the nation > >for its support in the war against Iraq. > > > [....] > >The people, though, were unable to hear him deliver those compliments > >unless they switched on their television sets. As part of a massive > >security operation to protect Mr Bush, they were shut out of > >Parliament House for the first time in the country's history. > > > >With the public gallery closed, the job of expressing the anti-war > >sentiments of a substantial minority of Australians fell to two > >maverick senators, Bob Brown and Kerry Nettle. The pair, both members > >of the Green Party, were ejected from the chamber. Interrupted by them > >for the second time, Mr Bush said, smiling between gritted teeth: "I > >love free speech." > > > Interesting to hear another point of view. ;-) > > Free speech? > -- > Gordon Free speech can be interpreted more than one way, in which case somebody has to decide which interpretation applies in a particular case. I would hope that in the United States we would show the same courtesy to a guest speaker from another country, allowing the guest the freedom of finishing his (or her) speech without interruption. There are many forums in both our countries for protesters to speak freely. I say, onya! to those who decided our President (misguided though he may be) should be allowed to finish his speech. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6w0hf1rj9jv9.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <27752-3F9A999D-87@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <_zFmb.193656$0v4.15017155@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:38:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.184 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067132282 32.103.153.184 (Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:38:02 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:38:02 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 645 Lines: 17 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:27752-3F9A999D-87@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Va wrote: "Clotted cream is very thick fresh buttery type cream - not > sweet or sour - just rich and creamy. I just love it on top of vanilla > ice cream in a cone > - to die for - sigh .......!" > *********************************** > O.K., must be like whiped cream; here in the states, we add a bit of > sugar, and it is truely delicious! Jeanette Clotted cream isn't like whipped cream. It is somewhere between whipped cream and butter. It has more density than whipped cream, but not as much as butter. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:51:53 GMT Message-ID: <3f9b26fa.17710928@news.individual.net> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <7yFmb.193651$0v4.15017960@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067133115 34174921 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1169 Lines: 27 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:36:03 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > >Free speech can be interpreted more than one way, in which case somebody >has to decide which interpretation applies in a particular case. I >would hope that in the United States we would show the same courtesy to >a guest speaker from another country, allowing the guest the freedom of >finishing his (or her) speech without interruption. There are many >forums in both our countries for protesters to speak freely. I say, >onya! to those who decided our President (misguided though he may be) >should be allowed to finish his speech. > >Joy When our Prime Minister visited America he was given a cordial welcome by the President and hosted graciously. His speech was listened to with a courteous attention and he received a standing ovation. The least we can do as Australians when hosting the President of the United State is behave accordingly. Protestors were not denied their right to protest....they assembled in the streets...that they were kept at a distance from the President was as it should be in the light of some of the behaviour that was seen on the TV coverage..... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Clotted Cream Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:57:37 GMT Message-ID: <3f9b29fe.18482786@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067133458 32632104 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 726 Lines: 26 Both Cornwall and Devon are famed for this delicacy. Traditionally this is made by pouring milk into shallow pans and leaving, undisturbed, for 24 hours allowing the cream to rise. Double cream can be used instead. Serves 4-6 Unhomogenised whole milk or double cream - 600 ml (1 pint) METHOD Pour milk or cream into a shallow pan. If using milk leave undisturbed for 24 hours. Heat the pan, gently, to about 82 °C (180 °F) and hold at this temperature for approximately 1 hour. When the surface cream has developed a thick, rich, yellow wrinkled crust, Turn off the heat and allow the pans to cool slowly. Once cold, skim the cream off and serve with scones, fruit or fruit pies. courtesy of google search jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: In song Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:42:44 GMT Message-ID: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067146969 34924012 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 412 Lines: 17 "Are you lonsome tonight, Do you miss me tonight, Are you sorry there's no one online? Does your memory stray, To a quite different day, When you logged on, and things were so fine...? Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: In song X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:49:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.97 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067147398 32.103.153.97 (Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:49:58 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:49:58 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1041 Lines: 33 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net... > "Are you lonsome tonight, > Do you miss me tonight, > Are you sorry there's no one online? > > Does your memory stray, > To a quite different day, > When you logged on, and things were so fine...? > > Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? > Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? > Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, > > Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." > > jingles Encore! Encore! I'm thinking of my Ozzie friends tonight, remembering the terrible fires that were burning there not so long ago. We are having fires in Southern California, and I found out a little while ago that if I walk out along the side of my house, I can see flames in the hills. They are somewhat distant, but mobile homes were burned less than 10 miles from me, and places much closer have been evacuated. I can smell smoke, even inside my house with doors and windows closed. Joy Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: In song Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:27:17 GMT Message-ID: <3f9b66a3.34010589@news.individual.net> References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-101.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.101) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067149639 33761037 203.87.44.101 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2405 Lines: 61 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:49:58 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net... >> "Are you lonsome tonight, >> Do you miss me tonight, >> Are you sorry there's no one online? >> >> Does your memory stray, >> To a quite different day, >> When you logged on, and things were so fine...? >> >> Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? >> Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? >> Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, >> >> Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." >> >> jingles > >Encore! Encore! > >I'm thinking of my Ozzie friends tonight, remembering the terrible fires >that were burning there not so long ago. We are having fires in >Southern California, and I found out a little while ago that if I walk >out along the side of my house, I can see flames in the hills. They are >somewhat distant, but mobile homes were burned less than 10 miles from >me, and places much closer have been evacuated. I can smell smoke, even >inside my house with doors and windows closed. > >Joy > >Joy > Praises be...I began to fear the world had come to an end and nobody had told me.... Then again you could all have been having a party and not invited me....that was a thought too.... I saw the news coverage of the fires over there....it said they were burning to the outskirts of Los Angeles....and it was difficult to get them under contol. Bush fires are a frightening thing even when viewed from a distance Joy.... I cannot believe that people who are burned out actually rebuild and go on with their lives in the same place....they must be a very special kind of person, I couldn't do it. In fact I won't buy a house that faces any rise of bush fire.....that is how scared I am of fire. Anyway I hope you are well and the only problem you have is with the smell.... It has been very quiet online today....guess it is all the clock changing that has to be done....quit exhausting when you consider the number of clocks we have around the place. I wish I could find one of those old fashioned alarm clocks that you wind up each night.....I think I would dump the rest and carry that around the house with me... Nice talking to you Joy....but I think I will go and make a cuppa and settle for some TV viewing... Goodnight to you... jingles > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ttose@msn.com (Teddy) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: I want to puke Date: 25 Oct 2003 23:34:17 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <3c122aad.0310211949.5afb0d6c@posting.google.com> <3f960ebd.21766056@news.individual.net> <3c122aad.0310220159.2c19b5aa@posting.google.com> <3f970591.7095328@news.individual.net> <3f98758d.6685199@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.9.133.213 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1067150057 27139 127.0.0.1 (26 Oct 2003 06:34:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 267 Lines: 12 Gordon wrote in message news:... > Teddy wrote > >I am not a troll > > LOL! > > The rest of that astonishing diatribe. > and *PLONK* Another bleet by the ill mannered. Teddy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: 26 Oct 2003 10:03:47 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.151.62.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.151.62) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067162627 34844974 67.74.151.62 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 328 Lines: 11 Bomb alert over 'break-wind' dog A mechanical novelty toy dog which breaks wind sparked a major security alert at an American airport. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3213403.stm Dink -- N 30.21, W 97.81 Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. ~~ Groucho Marx From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:57 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3f9aeae4.2326406@news.individual.net> <3f9b06b7.9451003@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-168-34.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1067175851 1721 81.131.168.34 (26 Oct 2003 13:44:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:44:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 1066 Lines: 46 > >>>> > >>>Interesting to hear another point of view. ;-) > >>> > >>>Free speech? > >>>-- > >>>Gordon > >> > >>A dicey one this Gordon...... > >> > >>\"Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to close the public gallery > >>and ensure the safety of the Head of another country, > >>Or open it and risk him being abused and possibly physically > >>attacked.....Aye! there's the rub..." > >> > >>jingles > >> > >How many British Prime Ministers have been the victims of assassination, > >and how many attempts. I can only remember one - the Brighton bombing > >attempt on Maggie Thatcher. Spencer Perceval assassinated in the lobby of the HoC in 1812. John Bellingham was hanged within the week. Think there were a couple of attempts on other PMs but can't remember off the top of my head. >^..^< ***** > > > >How many American presidents? Lincoln, Kennedy......? > > > >In which country were they assassinated. > > > >Ahh! There's the rub! have any been killed on foreign soil? > >-- > >Gordon > > > But how many of them have visited Australia? > > jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:58:59 +0000 Message-ID: <0jZ$zrLjM9m$Ewgf@ntlworld.com> References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3f9aeae4.2326406@news.individual.net> <3f9b06b7.9451003@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mike_clayton@ntlworld.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m194-mp1.cvx1-b.man.dial.ntli.net (62.252.200.194) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067176936 34031247 62.252.200.194 (16 [155445]) X-Orig-Path: ntlworld.com!mike_clayton User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U (<7HYqYgwAhFAThcIO+B2jMFZ6dA>) Status: O Content-Length: 855 Lines: 21 In message , Jan Lancaster writes >> >How many British Prime Ministers have been the victims of assassination, >> >and how many attempts. I can only remember one - the Brighton bombing >> >attempt on Maggie Thatcher. > >Spencer Perceval assassinated in the lobby of the HoC >in 1812. John Bellingham was hanged within the week. >Think there were a couple of attempts on other PMs but can't remember off >the top of my head. > Didn't the IRA lob a mortar bomb or two at number 10 a year or so ago? I assume that they intended harm to the PM and were not just doing it to be annoying :-) -- Mike Clayton Reputation is what other people know about you. Honour is what you know about yourself. Lois McMaster Bujold, "A Civil Campaign", 1999 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F9BEF08.45C43CBC@bellsouth.net> From: Shirley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Clotted Cream References: <3f9b29fe.18482786@news.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: npbhgpngjbkmjfegdbdpiflmbcekedmfhojhikkbagflhcboeapjlkiaflcmnmbfmjfeepegojjcmolgpbiccjmfcgfbcibfliccfjeeicoklmfbmiadpcjpabapnobeogpffkbkabbeffdchagbgganfgbogkooegcmjhhibopfakdb NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:52:10 EST Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:58:01 -0500 Status: O Content-Length: 1089 Lines: 39 jingles wrote: > Both Cornwall and Devon are famed for this delicacy. Traditionally > this is made by pouring milk into shallow pans and leaving, > undisturbed, for 24 hours allowing the cream to rise. Double cream can > be used instead. > > Serves 4-6 > > Unhomogenised whole milk or double cream - 600 ml (1 pint) > > METHOD > > Pour milk or cream into a shallow pan. If using milk leave undisturbed > for 24 hours. > > Heat the pan, gently, to about 82 °C (180 °F) and hold at this > temperature for approximately 1 hour. > > When the surface cream has developed a thick, rich, yellow wrinkled > crust, Turn off the heat and allow the pans to cool slowly. > > Once cold, skim the cream off and serve with scones, fruit or fruit > pies. > > courtesy of google search > > jingles I just ordered some Devon Double Clotted Cream, Lady Grey Tea and Norfolk Manor Walnut Biscuits to serve at a Tea Party for my Granddaughter and some of her friends....we will have cucumber and watercress sandwiches, scones, tea cakes, strawberries with our tea....they are very excited about it.... From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:25:47 -0600 (CST) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <966-3F9C039B-23@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <_zFmb.193656$0v4.15017155@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUArISxB7g+2RvYjk/E1ip40BHPO9QCFET4t3VT64Mb6vx+RFsSDRmPs57l Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 333 Lines: 7 Joy wrote: "Clotted cream isn't like whipped cream. It is somewhere between whipped cream and butter. It has more density than whipped cream, but not as much as butter." ***************************************** Val, thanks to jingles, she posted a recipe on how to make clotted cream. I think I prefer whipped cream. Jeanette From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: 26 Oct 2003 18:48:35 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: <6w0hf1rj9jv9.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <27752-3F9A999D-87@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> <_zFmb.193656$0v4.15017155@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.151.62.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.151.62) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067194115 34514873 67.74.151.62 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 958 Lines: 27 "Yoj" wrote in news:_zFmb.193656$0v4.15017155@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: > "Jeanette S." wrote in message > news:27752-3F9A999D-87@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... >> Va wrote: "Clotted cream is very thick fresh buttery type cream - >> not sweet or sour - just rich and creamy. I just love it on top of >> vanilla ice cream in a cone >> - to die for - sigh .......!" >> *********************************** >> O.K., must be like whiped cream; here in the states, we add a bit of >> sugar, and it is truely delicious! Jeanette > > Clotted cream isn't like whipped cream. It is somewhere between > whipped cream and butter. It has more density than whipped cream, but > not as much as butter. > > Joy > How would it compare with whipped unsalted butter, Joy? Dink -- N 30.21, W 97.81 Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. ~~ Groucho Marx From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <_HCkb.3685$S52.1344@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <27752-3F9A9E5C-89@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> Subject: Re: "...Bush Seeks $600 Million to Hunt Iraq Arms" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:21:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.251 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1067196066 171.75.14.251 (Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:21:06 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:21:06 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 920 Lines: 38 "Jeanette S." wrote in message news:27752-3F9A9E5C-89@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... > Bob wrote: "Errrr, what was it I said that lead you to believe that I > don't?" > ******************************** > Stating that illegals come over here to have their babies on "Medicare". That isn't something that I pulled out of "Rectal Data Storage". It has been all over the news. > I've never heard of a woman having a baby while on Medicare. You have now. > It would be highly publicized, don't you think? It has been. Where have you been? grin > I'm not saying it's impossible, but strange. Yes. > I think you meant "Medicaid". Oops. Yes, I think you're right, it might have been. And, yes it frosts me, that so many > illegals can have their babies in the U.S. and get away with it,going on > to have more "free" babies. (To them anyway!) Jeanette > Yes. cheers bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail Reply-To: "Bob Thomas" From: "Bob Thomas" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f997a63.307528@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Enough dialogue X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:21:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.75.14.251 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net 1067196068 171.75.14.251 (Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:21:08 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:21:08 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Status: O Content-Length: 863 Lines: 43 "Lanky" wrote in message news:chikpvo865ujjv57ifa8pafol3luuu1nl6@4ax.com... > On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:43 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) > wrote: > > >On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:10:55 +0100, Lanky wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... > >>>> > > >>>> >jingles > >>>> >> > >>>> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. > >>>> > >>>> Lanky. > >>> > >>>Wriggle out of that one. > >>> > >>>>^..^< > >>>***** > >>> > >>Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? > >> > >>Lanky > > > > > >" I'm just a dear little wriggly worm...." > > > >Morning Lanky mi owd mate.... > > > >jingles > > > Morning jingles mi owd mucker. It's right what they say about the > early bird. Yabut, I suspect the early bird works for somebody that sleeps late. grin bob From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Joan F \(MI\)" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:47:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-68-79-92-91.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net (68.79.92.91) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067197673 35391720 68.79.92.91 (16 [57393]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Status: O Content-Length: 406 Lines: 16 ROFL! The world just keeps getting crazier. Dink wrote: | Bomb alert over 'break-wind' dog | A mechanical novelty toy dog which breaks wind sparked a major | security alert at an American airport. | | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3213403.stm | | Dink | -- | N 30.21, W 97.81 | Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's | too dark to read. ~~ Groucho Marx From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:48:00 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.184.128 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067201378 35142929 217.137.184.128 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 350 Lines: 14 On 26 Oct 2003 10:03:47 GMT, Dink wrote: >Bomb alert over 'break-wind' dog >A mechanical novelty toy dog which breaks wind sparked a major security >alert at an American airport. > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3213403.stm > >Dink Why keep a dog and fart yourself? (6th century proverb - as amended) Lanky. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:54:52 -0500 (EST) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Message-ID: <965-3F9C349C-87@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> References: <3f987ab1.8001761@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAkYgRA9haQYM1dREcc5RAmuZv4nMCFQDEdwdPm9RIzzQyRly71xlUppVNKw== Content-Disposition: Inline Status: O Content-Length: 37 Lines: 3 jingles - - you are the best!! Olly From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:06:12 +0000 Message-ID: <2rcopv47jed7f7hm24ndl98lqgor1rmjoj@4ax.com> References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.184.104 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067202471 35515078 217.137.184.104 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 908 Lines: 42 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:22:04 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >jingles >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >> >> >> >> >> >> Lanky. >> >> > >> >> >Wriggle out of that one. >> >> > >> >> >>^..^< >> >> >***** >> >> > >> >> Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? >> >> >> >> Lanky >> > >> >Humour me, my brain is tired. >> > >> >>^..^< >> >***** >> > >> One of Arthur Askey's silly little songs was about a wriggly worm. >> Jingles remembers it, she has a memory like an elephant; but there the >> similarity ends I hasten to add (for protection). >> >> Lanky > >No. Nothing. Only the busy busy bee. Of course I >am one of the babies of this group. . . ;-)) > >>^..^< >***** > Don't worry, we understand, kiddo. Lanky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:06:13 +0000 Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f997a63.307528@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.184.104 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067202471 35515078 217.137.184.104 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1115 Lines: 51 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:22:02 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"Lanky" wrote in message >news:chikpvo865ujjv57ifa8pafol3luuu1nl6@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:43 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >> wrote: >> >> >On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:10:55 +0100, Lanky wrote: >> >>>> > >> >>>> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >> >>>> > >> >>>> >jingles >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >> >>>> >> >>>> Lanky. >> >>> >> >>>Wriggle out of that one. >> >>> >> >>>>^..^< >> >>>***** >> >>> >> >>Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? >> >> >> >>Lanky >> > >> > >> >" I'm just a dear little wriggly worm...." >> > >> >Morning Lanky mi owd mate.... >> > >> >jingles >> > >> Morning jingles mi owd mucker. It's right what they say about the >> early bird. >> One of Arthur's lesser known songs I think. >> >> Lanky > >But the second mouse gets the cheese. > >>^..^< >***** > ^ ^ (*)(*) =O= Second mouse??? Get up off your backside cat!! Felix From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:06:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f997a63.307528@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.184.104 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067202472 35515078 217.137.184.104 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1023 Lines: 47 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:21:08 GMT, "Bob Thomas" wrote: >"Lanky" wrote in message >news:chikpvo865ujjv57ifa8pafol3luuu1nl6@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:16:43 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) >> wrote: >> >> >On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:10:55 +0100, Lanky wrote: >> >>>> > >> >>>> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >> >>>> > >> >>>> >jingles >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >> >>>> >> >>>> Lanky. >> >>> >> >>>Wriggle out of that one. >> >>> >> >>>>^..^< >> >>>***** >> >>> >> >>Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? >> >> >> >>Lanky >> > >> > >> >" I'm just a dear little wriggly worm...." >> > >> >Morning Lanky mi owd mate.... >> > >> >jingles >> > >> Morning jingles mi owd mucker. It's right what they say about the >> early bird. > >Yabut, I suspect the early bird works for somebody that sleeps late. > >grin > >bob > LOL..............Yup, I reckon. Lanky. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: 26 Oct 2003 21:26:41 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.151.62.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.151.62) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067203601 35344101 67.74.151.62 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 766 Lines: 29 Lanky wrote in news:kncopvo0efn5t6ss54i0a9ac9das7a52sp@4ax.com: > On 26 Oct 2003 10:03:47 GMT, Dink wrote: > >>Bomb alert over 'break-wind' dog >>A mechanical novelty toy dog which breaks wind sparked a major security >>alert at an American airport. >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3213403.stm >> >>Dink > > Why keep a dog and fart yourself? > (6th century proverb - as amended) > > Lanky. > "A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around three times before lying down." ~~ Robert Benchley "Never stand between a dog and a fire hydrant" ~~ Unknown Dink -- N 30.21, W 97.81 Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. ~~ Groucho Marx From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:58 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:44:36 GMT Message-ID: <3f9c400d.1037828@news.individual.net> References: <3f987ab1.8001761@news.individual.net> <965-3F9C349C-87@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-078.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.78) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067204678 34928654 203.87.45.78 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 243 Lines: 10 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:54:52 -0500 (EST), Oldie69@webtv.net (Olly Mensch) wrote: >jingles - - you are the best!! >Olly > Thank you again Olly.....I know we don't always see eye to eye....but that is the way it is in an open forum... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:46:44 GMT Message-ID: <3f9c40a7.1191817@news.individual.net> References: <_zFmb.193656$0v4.15017155@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <966-3F9C039B-23@storefull-2312.public.lawson.webtv.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-078.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.78) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067204805 34928654 203.87.45.78 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 517 Lines: 15 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:25:47 -0600 (CST), jenahearn10@hotmail.com (Jeanette S.) wrote: >Joy wrote: "Clotted cream isn't like whipped cream. It is somewhere >between whipped cream and butter. It has more density than whipped >cream, but not as much as butter." >***************************************** >Val, thanks to jingles, she posted a recipe on how to make clotted >cream. I think I prefer whipped cream. Jeanette > Actually clotted cream tastes wonderful.....though whipped cream is easier.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Checking in while I can X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:13:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.182 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067206405 32.103.153.182 (Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:13:25 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:13:25 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1096 Lines: 26 The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between Ventura County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been destroyed. Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I have my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. I hope I'm making sense. -- Joy Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <6w0hf1rj9jv9.dlg@copelands.co.uk> <27752-3F9A999D-87@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net> <_zFmb.193656$0v4.15017155@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Women in Power-Oggy Oggy Oggy! X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:21:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.182 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067206880 32.103.153.182 (Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:21:20 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:21:20 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1224 Lines: 40 "Dink" wrote in message news:Xns9420824E06747frijoles@130.133.1.4... > "Yoj" wrote in > news:_zFmb.193656$0v4.15017155@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: > > > "Jeanette S." wrote in message > > news:27752-3F9A999D-87@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net... > >> Va wrote: "Clotted cream is very thick fresh buttery type cream - > >> not sweet or sour - just rich and creamy. I just love it on top of > >> vanilla ice cream in a cone > >> - to die for - sigh .......!" > >> *********************************** > >> O.K., must be like whiped cream; here in the states, we add a bit of > >> sugar, and it is truely delicious! Jeanette > > > > Clotted cream isn't like whipped cream. It is somewhere between > > whipped cream and butter. It has more density than whipped cream, but > > not as much as butter. > > > > Joy > > > > How would it compare with whipped unsalted butter, Joy? > > Dink > -- > N 30.21, W 97.81 > Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too > dark to read. ~~ Groucho Marx I don't think I've ever had whipped unsalted butter, so I can't say. Joy P.S. I love your sig line! It's one of my favorites. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Checking in while I can Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:29:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067207380 34752313 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1343 Lines: 29 This is terrible, Joy. Thanks for checking in and keeping us posted. I hope you'll be OK and you won't have to evacuate. My heart goes out to everyone caught in this tragedy. ---Sea "Yoj" wrote > The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once > this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > > The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any > evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between Ventura > County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having > fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been destroyed. > Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in > Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been > closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > > The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I have > my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My > daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, > but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I > start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get > there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > I hope I'm making sense. > Joy > Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Clotted Cream Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:31:58 GMT Message-ID: <3f9c4b37.3896506@news.individual.net> References: <3f9b29fe.18482786@news.individual.net> <3F9BEF08.45C43CBC@bellsouth.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-078.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.78) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067207520 35132393 203.87.45.78 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 484 Lines: 18 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:58:01 -0500, Shirley wrote: >> jingles > > > >I just ordered some Devon Double Clotted Cream, Lady Grey Tea and Norfolk >Manor Walnut Biscuits to serve at a Tea Party for my Granddaughter and >some of her friends....we will have cucumber and watercress sandwiches, >scones, tea cakes, strawberries with our tea....they are very excited >about it.... > That sounds wonderful....have you room at the table for just one more? jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:34:44 GMT Message-ID: <3f9c4bb8.4025444@news.individual.net> References: Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-078.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.78) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067207686 35132393 203.87.45.78 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 608 Lines: 22 On 26 Oct 2003 10:03:47 GMT, Dink wrote: >Bomb alert over 'break-wind' dog >A mechanical novelty toy dog which breaks wind sparked a major security >alert at an American airport. > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3213403.stm > >Dink >-- >N 30.21, W 97.81 >Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too >dark to read. ~~ Groucho Marx This leaves me speechless......and according to the number of posts downloaded this morning (16) quite a few people are feeling the same "Where have all the posters gone....long time......" jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: In song Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:35:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067207771 34604362 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 905 Lines: 29 Jingles, Did you make those lyrics up? Excellent! I've noticed that the newsgroup has been slower than usual. I drop by and see nothing that I can respond to. I have an idea for another thread. I'll try it out now. ---Sea PS-"Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week..." Remember that song? (g) o/~ Of course it's Sunday night here, but who keeps track of the days when one is retired? (g) "jingles" wrote > "Are you lonsome tonight, > Do you miss me tonight, > Are you sorry there's no one online? > > Does your memory stray, > To a quite different day, > When you logged on, and things were so fine...? > > Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? > Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? > Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, > > Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." > jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:44:49 -0500 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067208300 34606729 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 795 Lines: 21 ROLL CALL! A few years ago on another message board, I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". Posters would jump in and let us know they were still around and would tell a bit about themselves. So... how about it? Let's do it! As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but somebody's gotta do it. (g) How about you? ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:52:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067208778 35215323 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1752 Lines: 39 What a grand idea! I'm from the USA and have never heard of Ivy Benson, but I think you've done a good thing bringing back old memories. Some quotes: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Sooner or later we all discover that the important moments in life are not the advertised ones, not the birthdays, the graduations, the weddings, not the great goals achieved. The real milestones are less prepossessing. They come to the door of memory." -Susan B. Anthony (1820-1906) US social reformer, suffragist "I have liked remembering almost as much as I have liked living." -William Maxwell, Essay: "Nearing 90", NYTimes Magazine, 3/9/97. (William Maxwell was a fiction editor at "The New Yorker " Magazine for 40 years.) This is one of my favorite quotes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---Sea "B D Ravenhill" wrote > Does anyone remember Ivy Benson and Her "All Girl Band" which ran for > over 40 years, from 1939 to 1982 and had 250+ girl musicians passing > through over that period. They played on Radio during the War Years, > toured in Europe and the Middle East and many will remember the Summer > Seasons at the Villa Marina Gardens on the Isle of Man in the late > 50's/early 60's, when up to 6000 visitors would relax in their > deckchairs to listen to an afternoon of excellent musical > entertainment. > > Ivy passed away in May 1993 in Clacton on Sea where she had retired. > > Little of the history of this unique UK band has been available, but I > have now developed a website to celebrate them. I am always looking > for stories, photos and memorabilia connected to this band - can you > help? You can see the site at www.ivybenson-online.com - I hope you > enjoy it and maybe I will hear from you. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Checking in while I can X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:01:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.182 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067209304 32.103.153.182 (Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:01:44 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:01:44 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1762 Lines: 48 Thanks, Sea. I'm still a lot better off than a lot of people. I have newsgroup friends who have had to evacuate themselves, and others who have relatives who have been evacuated. -- Joy Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg "~~seadancer~~" wrote in message news:bnhhsk$114hpp$1@ID-178699.news.uni-berlin.de... > This is terrible, Joy. > Thanks for checking in and keeping us posted. > I hope you'll be OK and you won't have to evacuate. > My heart goes out to everyone caught in this tragedy. > ---Sea > > "Yoj" wrote > > The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once > > this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > > > > The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any > > evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between Ventura > > County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having > > fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been destroyed. > > Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in > > Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been > > closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > > > > The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I have > > my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My > > daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, > > but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I > > start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get > > there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > > I hope I'm making sense. > > Joy > > Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Checking in while I can Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:18:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067210323 35322312 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 2114 Lines: 46 I don't think I could stand the tension of evacuating my home. But, like everything else in life, I suppose that when we're faced with an emergency, all of our inner resources are put to the test. Someone gave me good advice years ago. I was reminded that we should try to have faith in our abilities to face whatever challenges are put before us. However, I hope I never have to face this kind of tragedy. I'm not sure my inner resources are strong enough to pass the test. ---Sea "Yoj" wrote > Thanks, Sea. I'm still a lot better off than a lot of people. I have > newsgroup friends who have had to evacuate themselves, and others who > have relatives who have been evacuated. > Joy > > "~~seadancer~~" wrote > > This is terrible, Joy. > > Thanks for checking in and keeping us posted. > > I hope you'll be OK and you won't have to evacuate. > > My heart goes out to everyone caught in this tragedy. > > ---Sea > > > > "Yoj" wrote > > > The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once > > > this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > > > The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any > > > evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between > Ventura County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are > having fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been > destroyed. > > > Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in > > > Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been > > > closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > > > The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I > have my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My > > > daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want > to, but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or > I start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get > > > there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > > > I hope I'm making sense. > > > Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: In song Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:24:27 GMT Message-ID: <3f9c5675.2582729@news.individual.net> References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-205.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.205) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067210669 34809390 203.87.45.205 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1713 Lines: 50 Hi Sea - I am getting a lot of approval lately.... the words just came to me as I sat in front of my empty screen trying to decide what to do with the rest of my time... I noticed you hadn't been around as much as usual....do you think with the approach of winter all the posters have gone into hibernation? Tim should be back in the not too distant future, but at the moment she has a number of things which are taking up her time.... You are correct of course about retirement.....every day is Saturday....I have a friend who get very cross because retirees don't get Public Holidays.....he has a point ..... Better fly, I have a doctor's appointment in 30 minutes... jingles On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:35:43 -0500, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >Jingles, >Did you make those lyrics up? Excellent! >I've noticed that the newsgroup has been slower >than usual. I drop by and see nothing that I can >respond to. I have an idea for another thread. >I'll try it out now. >---Sea >PS-"Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week..." > Remember that song? (g) o/~ > Of course it's Sunday night here, but who keeps > track of the days when one is retired? (g) > >"jingles" wrote >> "Are you lonsome tonight, >> Do you miss me tonight, >> Are you sorry there's no one online? >> >> Does your memory stray, >> To a quite different day, >> When you logged on, and things were so fine...? >> >> Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? >> Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? >> Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, >> >> Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." >> jingles > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:07:59 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102623311776656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:31:17 GMT Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) References: <3f9c4bb8.4025444@news.individual.net> X-Trace: 1067211241 master.news.zetnet.net 191 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 1108 Lines: 33 The message <3f9c4bb8.4025444@news.individual.net> from ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) contains these words: > On 26 Oct 2003 10:03:47 GMT, Dink wrote: > >Bomb alert over 'break-wind' dog > >A mechanical novelty toy dog which breaks wind sparked a major security > >alert at an American airport. > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3213403.stm > > > >Dink > >-- > >N 30.21, W 97.81 > >Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too > >dark to read. ~~ Groucho Marx > This leaves me speechless......and according to the number of posts > downloaded this morning (16) quite a few people are feeling the same > > "Where have all the posters gone....long time......" I think the Net develops a lot of problems at the weekend? I know that if I'm going to have problems, that's when they turn up! As for posting, well I've been in bed since Wednesday with the mother and father of all colds! I only get a cold once a decade, for which I'm more than thankful, but when I _do_ get one.......! -- AnneJ ICQ #:- 119531282 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: In song Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:33:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> <3f9c5675.2582729@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067211212 34582836 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 2524 Lines: 62 Hi Jingles, There's nothing like approval to perk up our spirits. I'm not sure what happened to all the posters. You'd think there would be more of them, since the cold weather keeps us indoors more. DH & I have been occupied with household chores and repairs lately. I've been running to the store to buy sandpaper and paintbrushes. Thrilling! LOL The hardware store is another world with another language altogether. I never knew there were so many kinds of sandpaper and paintbrushes. I was told by "150 grit" sandpaper. I found two kinds, both marked "150 grit", but one was coarser than the other. Of course I was skilled at testing coarseness because we women have to deal with nail files all our lives. Experience counts. LOL ---Sea "jingles" wrote > Hi Sea - I am getting a lot of approval lately.... the words > just came to me as I sat in front of my empty screen trying to decide > what to do with the rest of my time... > I noticed you hadn't been around as much as usual....do you think with > the approach of winter all the posters have gone into hibernation? > Tim should be back in the not too distant future, but at the moment > she has a number of things which are taking up her time.... > You are correct of course about retirement.....every day is > Saturday....I have a friend who get very cross because retirees don't > get Public Holidays.....he has a point ..... > Better fly, I have a doctor's appointment in 30 minutes... > jingles > > wrote: > >Jingles, > >Did you make those lyrics up? Excellent! > >I've noticed that the newsgroup has been slower > >than usual. I drop by and see nothing that I can > >respond to. I have an idea for another thread. > >I'll try it out now. > >---Sea > >PS-"Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week..." > > Remember that song? (g) o/~ > > Of course it's Sunday night here, but who keeps > > track of the days when one is retired? (g) > > > >"jingles" wrote > >> "Are you lonsome tonight, > >> Do you miss me tonight, > >> Are you sorry there's no one online? > >> > >> Does your memory stray, > >> To a quite different day, > >> When you logged on, and things were so fine...? > >> > >> Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? > >> Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? > >> Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, > >> > >> Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." > >> jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Checking in while I can Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:34:04 GMT Message-ID: <3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net> References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-205.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.205) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067211246 35183260 203.87.45.205 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1536 Lines: 41 Hi Joy, Sorry to hear that things are so bad.....don't be too brave, pack up those cats and go stay with your daughter. The last newspaper report was 200 homes destroyed but we know that this figure can escalate rapidly when the bushfires are out of control. If you get this message, know that my thoughts are with you...take care... jingles On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:13:25 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once >this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > >The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any >evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between Ventura >County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having >fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been destroyed. >Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in >Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been >closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > >The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I have >my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My >daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, >but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I >start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get >there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > >I hope I'm making sense. > >-- >Joy > >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:39:01 GMT Message-ID: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> References: Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as2-205.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.45.205) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067211544 35183260 203.87.45.205 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 1415 Lines: 40 Not a bad idea Sea... I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have never regretted it. Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town about 100 miles from Melbourne. We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when you pass in the street. Loving it of course. jingles On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:44:49 -0500, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >ROLL CALL! >A few years ago on another message board, >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". >Posters would jump in and let us know they were >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. >So... how about it? Let's do it! >As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. >DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from >downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the >Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the >boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. >After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that >I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house >nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the >cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled >and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but >somebody's gotta do it. (g) >How about you? >---Sea > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:03:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067213147 34582221 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1947 Lines: 48 Jingles, Why do they call it the Melbourne 'big smoke'? And what is the significance of "the ten pound cruise"? I already know you're in Australia, but perhaps some people don't realize where Melbourne is. I know that's hard for you to believe (g), but it's possible. At this point in my life's memory, I hear familiar names of places, but sometimes I have no idea where they are. Somehow, my reference memory isn't as good as it used to be. Perhaps that's true of others? ---Sea "jingles" wrote > Not a bad idea Sea... > I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... > I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have > never regretted it. > Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple > of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town > about 100 miles from Melbourne. > We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among > people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when > you pass in the street. > Loving it of course. > jingles > > wrote: > >ROLL CALL! > >A few years ago on another message board, > >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". > >Posters would jump in and let us know they were > >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. > >So... how about it? Let's do it! > >As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. > >DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from > >downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the > >Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the > >boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. > >After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that > >I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house > >nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the > >cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled > >and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but > >somebody's gotta do it. (g) > >How about you? > >---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Checking in while I can X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:24:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.169 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067214279 32.103.153.169 (Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:24:39 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:24:39 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 3026 Lines: 75 Thank you, Jingles. Most of the homes that were destroyed were from other fires, about a hundred miles from me. There were a few that were destroyed closer to me, but not many. To tell the truth, there are two main reasons I haven't packed up and driven to my daughter's house already. First is the overwhelming task of figuring out what to take, and packing it. The second is the fact that I have two cats and so does my daughter. The thought of four miserable cats makes the idea of going there rather unattractive. My daughter's cats are strictly indoor cats, while mine are indoor/outdoor. I'd probably have to keep them shut in one room, which would not be fun. If I have to do it, I will, but I haven't reached that point yet. I am making lists of what I would want to take, and I located my fire insurance policy and put it out, ready to grab. Other than that, I'm in a holding pattern right now. If we have another power failure after it gets dark, which it will in a couple of hours or less, I'll probably decide to go. Of course, if that happens, I'll wish I'd gone sooner. I may do some packing in a while, just in case. When I was a kid, I couldn't wait to be grown up so I could make my own decisions. Now I'd give anything if I didn't have to make some of those decisions! Joy "jingles" wrote in message news:3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net... > > Hi Joy, > Sorry to hear that things are so bad.....don't be too brave, pack up > those cats and go stay with your daughter. > The last newspaper report was 200 homes destroyed but we know that > this figure can escalate rapidly when the bushfires are out of > control. > If you get this message, know that my thoughts are with you...take > care... > jingles > > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:13:25 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > >The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once > >this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > > > >The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any > >evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between Ventura > >County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having > >fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been destroyed. > >Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in > >Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been > >closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > > > >The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I have > >my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My > >daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, > >but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I > >start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get > >there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > > > >I hope I'm making sense. > > > >-- > >Joy > > > >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Bigbazza" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f9b29fe.18482786@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Clotted Cream Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:27:14 +1100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <3f9c6662$0$497$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.164.51.191 X-Trace: 1067214435 497 203.164.51.191 Status: O Content-Length: 1011 Lines: 36 "jingles" wrote in message news:3f9b29fe.18482786@news.individual.net... > Both Cornwall and Devon are famed for this delicacy. Traditionally > this is made by pouring milk into shallow pans and leaving, > undisturbed, for 24 hours allowing the cream to rise. Double cream can > be used instead. > > Serves 4-6 > > Unhomogenised whole milk or double cream - 600 ml (1 pint) > > METHOD > > Pour milk or cream into a shallow pan. If using milk leave undisturbed > for 24 hours. > > Heat the pan, gently, to about 82 °C (180 °F) and hold at this > temperature for approximately 1 hour. > > When the surface cream has developed a thick, rich, yellow wrinkled > crust, Turn off the heat and allow the pans to cool slowly. > > Once cold, skim the cream off and serve with scones, fruit or fruit > pies. > > courtesy of google search > > jingles Thanks for the Clotted Cream recipe..Jingles...Have you tried it yourself yet ?..Love all the unhealthy things ... Bigbazza(Barry)..Oz From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Dink Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: 27 Oct 2003 01:22:00 GMT Organization: Frijoles Refritos Message-ID: References: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-67.74.175.12.dial1.houston1.level3.net (67.74.175.12) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067217720 35452186 67.74.175.12 (16 [184522]) User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 Status: O Content-Length: 2368 Lines: 61 I'm a geography whiz kid... I know where Melbourne is. It's in Florida. http://www.melbourneflorida.org/ Dink :) "~~seadancer~~" wrote in news:bnhngq$10vbmd$1 @ID-178699.news.uni-berlin.de: > Jingles, > Why do they call it the Melbourne 'big smoke'? > And what is the significance of "the ten pound cruise"? > I already know you're in Australia, but perhaps some > people don't realize where Melbourne is. > I know that's hard for you to believe (g), but it's possible. > At this point in my life's memory, I hear familiar names > of places, but sometimes I have no idea where they > are. Somehow, my reference memory isn't as good > as it used to be. Perhaps that's true of others? > ---Sea > > "jingles" wrote >> Not a bad idea Sea... >> I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... >> I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have >> never regretted it. >> Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple >> of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town >> about 100 miles from Melbourne. >> We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among >> people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when >> you pass in the street. >> Loving it of course. >> jingles >> >> wrote: >> >ROLL CALL! >> >A few years ago on another message board, >> >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". >> >Posters would jump in and let us know they were >> >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. >> >So... how about it? Let's do it! >> >As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. >> >DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from >> >downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the >> >Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the >> >boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. >> >After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that >> >I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house >> >nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the >> >cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled >> >and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but >> >somebody's gotta do it. (g) >> >How about you? >> >---Sea > > > -- N 30.21, W 97.81 "A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around three times before lying down." ~~ Robert Benchley From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f997a63.307528@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-191-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1067220675 17896 81.131.191.22 (27 Oct 2003 02:11:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 922 Lines: 50 > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> >jingles > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Lanky. > >> >>> > >> >>>Wriggle out of that one. > >> >>> > >> >>>>^..^< > >> >>>***** > >> >>> > >> >>Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? > >> >> > >> >>Lanky > >> > > >> > > >> >" I'm just a dear little wriggly worm...." > >> > > >> >Morning Lanky mi owd mate.... > >> > > >> >jingles > >> > > >> Morning jingles mi owd mucker. It's right what they say about the > >> early bird. > >> One of Arthur's lesser known songs I think. > >> > >> Lanky > > > >But the second mouse gets the cheese. > > > >>^..^< > >***** > > > ^ ^ > (*)(*) > =O= Second mouse??? Get up off your backside cat!! > > Felix Couldn't. . . was still trying to get the first one out of the trap! >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-191-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1067220678 17896 81.131.191.22 (27 Oct 2003 02:11:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 556 Lines: 25 "Lanky" wrote in message news:kncopvo0efn5t6ss54i0a9ac9das7a52sp@4ax.com... > On 26 Oct 2003 10:03:47 GMT, Dink wrote: > > >Bomb alert over 'break-wind' dog > >A mechanical novelty toy dog which breaks wind sparked a major security > >alert at an American airport. > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3213403.stm > > > >Dink > > Why keep a dog and fart yourself? > (6th century proverb - as amended) > > Lanky. That's a good excuse for non dog owners, male of course. . . ;-)) >^..^< ***** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Checking in while I can Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-191-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1067220681 17896 81.131.191.22 (27 Oct 2003 02:11:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 3541 Lines: 88 Joy, how awful for you. Get the essentials packed and leave them in the car. Get the cats inside the house and their carriers to hand and get ready to go. Rather two unhappy cats short term than two dead ones. Good luck, I'll keep my fingers X >^..^< ***** "Yoj" wrote in message news:bBZmb.195369$0v4.15140487@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Thank you, Jingles. Most of the homes that were destroyed were from > other fires, about a hundred miles from me. There were a few that were > destroyed closer to me, but not many. To tell the truth, there are two > main reasons I haven't packed up and driven to my daughter's house > already. First is the overwhelming task of figuring out what to take, > and packing it. The second is the fact that I have two cats and so does > my daughter. The thought of four miserable cats makes the idea of going > there rather unattractive. My daughter's cats are strictly indoor cats, > while mine are indoor/outdoor. I'd probably have to keep them shut in > one room, which would not be fun. If I have to do it, I will, but I > haven't reached that point yet. > > I am making lists of what I would want to take, and I located my fire > insurance policy and put it out, ready to grab. Other than that, I'm in > a holding pattern right now. If we have another power failure after it > gets dark, which it will in a couple of hours or less, I'll probably > decide to go. Of course, if that happens, I'll wish I'd gone sooner. I > may do some packing in a while, just in case. > > When I was a kid, I couldn't wait to be grown up so I could make my own > decisions. Now I'd give anything if I didn't have to make some of those > decisions! > > Joy > > > > "jingles" wrote in message > news:3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net... > > > > Hi Joy, > > Sorry to hear that things are so bad.....don't be too brave, pack up > > those cats and go stay with your daughter. > > The last newspaper report was 200 homes destroyed but we know that > > this figure can escalate rapidly when the bushfires are out of > > control. > > If you get this message, know that my thoughts are with you...take > > care... > > jingles > > > > > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:13:25 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > > > >The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once > > >this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > > > > > >The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any > > >evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between > Ventura > > >County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having > > >fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been > destroyed. > > >Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in > > >Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been > > >closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > > > > > >The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I > have > > >my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My > > >daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, > > >but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I > > >start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get > > >there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > > > > > >I hope I'm making sense. > > > > > >-- > > >Joy > > > > > >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > > > > > > > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3f9aeae4.2326406@news.individual.net> <3f9b06b7.9451003@news.individual.net> <0jZ$zrLjM9m$Ewgf@ntlworld.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-191-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1067220680 17896 81.131.191.22 (27 Oct 2003 02:11:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 861 Lines: 30 > >> >How many British Prime Ministers have been the victims of assassination, > >> >and how many attempts. I can only remember one - the Brighton bombing > >> >attempt on Maggie Thatcher. > > > >Spencer Perceval assassinated in the lobby of the HoC > >in 1812. John Bellingham was hanged within the week. > >Think there were a couple of attempts on other PMs but can't remember off > >the top of my head. > > > > Didn't the IRA lob a mortar bomb or two at number 10 a year or so ago? > I assume that they intended harm to the PM and were not just doing it to > be annoying :-) > -- > Mike Clayton > Reputation is what other people know about you. Honour is what you know about > yourself. Lois McMaster Bujold, "A Civil Campaign", 1999 > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton Forgot about that . . . never was into modern history >^..^< ***** > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: gina39d@yahoo.com (toci) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: 26 Oct 2003 18:11:54 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <52a6abdc.0310261811.671be123@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.123.236.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1067220715 4773 127.0.0.1 (27 Oct 2003 02:11:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 551 Lines: 9 I'm a newly retired school psych examiner, and former English and social studies teacher, in Kansas City, MO. I live with two adult children and a barely adult grandchild, and two cats. Till recently I thought I was going to live with a male Texan friend in Texas, but he got religion and moved to a nunnery- well, Chirch of Christ retirement house- instead. We're currently on let's be friends penpal status. My daughter may move where a job calls her (she's a Ph.D. psychologist) and my grandson may go away to college next school year. Toci From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Jan Lancaster" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial81-131-191-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1067220910 18133 81.131.191.22 (27 Oct 2003 02:15:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:15:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Status: O Content-Length: 2296 Lines: 60 "~~seadancer~~" wrote in message news:bnhngq$10vbmd$1@ID-178699.news.uni-berlin.de... > Jingles, > Why do they call it the Melbourne 'big smoke'? > And what is the significance of "the ten pound cruise"? > I already know you're in Australia, but perhaps some > people don't realize where Melbourne is. > I know that's hard for you to believe (g), but it's possible. > At this point in my life's memory, I hear familiar names > of places, but sometimes I have no idea where they > are. Somehow, my reference memory isn't as good > as it used to be. Perhaps that's true of others? > ---Sea I know where Melbourne is but only because I have outlaws living in Melton, I have never been though have an open invitation. >^..^< ***** > > "jingles" wrote > > Not a bad idea Sea... > > I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... > > I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have > > never regretted it. > > Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple > > of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town > > about 100 miles from Melbourne. > > We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among > > people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when > > you pass in the street. > > Loving it of course. > > jingles > > > > wrote: > > >ROLL CALL! > > >A few years ago on another message board, > > >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". > > >Posters would jump in and let us know they were > > >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. > > >So... how about it? Let's do it! > > >As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. > > >DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from > > >downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the > > >Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the > > >boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. > > >After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that > > >I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house > > >nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the > > >cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled > > >and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but > > >somebody's gotta do it. (g) > > >How about you? > > >---Sea > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:00 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:39:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067222537 34300790 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 2338 Lines: 58 LOL, Dink! I rest my case. (g) ---Sea "Dink" wrote > I'm a geography whiz kid... I know where Melbourne is. It's in Florida. > http://www.melbourneflorida.org/ > Dink :) > > "~~seadancer~~" wrote > > Jingles, > > Why do they call it the Melbourne 'big smoke'? > > And what is the significance of "the ten pound cruise"? > > I already know you're in Australia, but perhaps some > > people don't realize where Melbourne is. > > I know that's hard for you to believe (g), but it's possible. > > At this point in my life's memory, I hear familiar names > > of places, but sometimes I have no idea where they > > are. Somehow, my reference memory isn't as good > > as it used to be. Perhaps that's true of others? > > ---Sea > > > > "jingles" wrote > >> Not a bad idea Sea... > >> I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... > >> I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have > >> never regretted it. > >> Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple > >> of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town > >> about 100 miles from Melbourne. > >> We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among > >> people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when > >> you pass in the street. > >> Loving it of course. > >> jingles > >> > >> wrote: > >> >ROLL CALL! > >> >A few years ago on another message board, > >> >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". > >> >Posters would jump in and let us know they were > >> >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. > >> >So... how about it? Let's do it! > >> >As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. > >> >DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from > >> >downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the > >> >Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the > >> >boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. > >> >After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that > >> >I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house > >> >nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the > >> >cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled > >> >and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but > >> >somebody's gotta do it. (g) > >> >How about you? > >> >---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Checking in while I can X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:41:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.217 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067222518 32.103.153.217 (Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:41:58 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:41:58 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 3937 Lines: 124 Thanks, Jan. It looks as though the fires are moving away from here now, but I'll stay alert and prepared. Joy "Jan Lancaster" wrote in message news:bnhus8$hf8$4@hercules.btinternet.com... > Joy, how awful for you. Get the essentials packed and leave them in the car. > Get the cats inside the house and their carriers to hand and get ready to > go. Rather two unhappy cats short term than two dead ones. Good luck, I'll > keep my fingers X > > >^..^< > ***** > > > "Yoj" wrote in message > news:bBZmb.195369$0v4.15140487@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > Thank you, Jingles. Most of the homes that were destroyed were from > > other fires, about a hundred miles from me. There were a few that were > > destroyed closer to me, but not many. To tell the truth, there are two > > main reasons I haven't packed up and driven to my daughter's house > > already. First is the overwhelming task of figuring out what to take, > > and packing it. The second is the fact that I have two cats and so does > > my daughter. The thought of four miserable cats makes the idea of going > > there rather unattractive. My daughter's cats are strictly indoor cats, > > while mine are indoor/outdoor. I'd probably have to keep them shut in > > one room, which would not be fun. If I have to do it, I will, but I > > haven't reached that point yet. > > > > I am making lists of what I would want to take, and I located my fire > > insurance policy and put it out, ready to grab. Other than that, I'm in > > a holding pattern right now. If we have another power failure after it > > gets dark, which it will in a couple of hours or less, I'll probably > > decide to go. Of course, if that happens, I'll wish I'd gone sooner. I > > may do some packing in a while, just in case. > > > > When I was a kid, I couldn't wait to be grown up so I could make my own > > decisions. Now I'd give anything if I didn't have to make some of those > > decisions! > > > > Joy > > > > > > > > "jingles" wrote in message > > news:3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net... > > > > > > Hi Joy, > > > Sorry to hear that things are so bad.....don't be too brave, pack up > > > those cats and go stay with your daughter. > > > The last newspaper report was 200 homes destroyed but we know that > > > this figure can escalate rapidly when the bushfires are out of > > > control. > > > If you get this message, know that my thoughts are with you...take > > > care... > > > jingles > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:13:25 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > > > > > >The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once > > > >this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > > > > > > > >The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any > > > >evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between > > Ventura > > > >County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having > > > >fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been > > destroyed. > > > >Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in > > > >Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been > > > >closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > > > > > > > >The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I > > have > > > >my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My > > > >daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, > > > >but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I > > > >start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get > > > >there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > > > > > > > >I hope I'm making sense. > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Joy > > > > > > > >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:42:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067222537 34300790 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 2525 Lines: 62 "Jan Lancaster" wrote > "~~seadancer~~" wrote > > Jingles, > > Why do they call it the Melbourne 'big smoke'? > > And what is the significance of "the ten pound cruise"? > > I already know you're in Australia, but perhaps some > > people don't realize where Melbourne is. > > I know that's hard for you to believe (g), but it's possible. > > At this point in my life's memory, I hear familiar names > > of places, but sometimes I have no idea where they > > are. Somehow, my reference memory isn't as good > > as it used to be. Perhaps that's true of others? > > ---Sea > > I know where Melbourne is but only because I have > outlaws living in Melton, I have never been though > have an open invitation. > >^..^< > ***** Jan, Well, now I know where Melbourne is. But I've never heard of Melton. (g) Is it in Florida? (lol) (See Dink's post re Melbourne.) ---Sea > > "jingles" wrote > > > Not a bad idea Sea... > > > I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... > > > I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have > > > never regretted it. > > > Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple > > > of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town > > > about 100 miles from Melbourne. > > > We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among > > > people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when > > > you pass in the street. > > > Loving it of course. > > > jingles > > > > > > wrote: > > > >ROLL CALL! > > > >A few years ago on another message board, > > > >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". > > > >Posters would jump in and let us know they were > > > >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. > > > >So... how about it? Let's do it! > > > >As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. > > > >DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from > > > >downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the > > > >Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the > > > >boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. > > > >After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that > > > >I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house > > > >nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the > > > >cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled > > > >and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but > > > >somebody's gotta do it. (g) > > > >How about you? > > > >---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:45:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <52a6abdc.0310261811.671be123@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067222720 34313515 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 641 Lines: 15 Good to hear from you, Toci. ---Sea "toci" wrote > I'm a newly retired school psych examiner, and former English and > social studies teacher, in Kansas City, MO. I live with two adult > children and a barely adult grandchild, and two cats. Till recently > I thought I was going to live with a male Texan friend in Texas, but > he got religion and moved to a nunnery- well, Chirch of Christ > retirement house- instead. We're currently on let's be friends penpal > status. My daughter may move where a job calls her (she's a Ph.D. > psychologist) and my grandson may go away to college next school year. > Toci From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Eugene A. Calame Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:53:53 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Status: O Content-Length: 3841 Lines: 79 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:44:49 -0500, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >ROLL CALL! >A few years ago on another message board, >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". >Posters would jump in and let us know they were >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. >So... how about it? Let's do it! OK; how about this.... I was born September, 9, 1934 in Beckham County, Oklahoma near the small town of Erick. I am the youngest of three children. All born during those bad old days referred to as the depression. To the credit of my parents I was never aware that those days were bad. My family moved to Medina County, Texas in my first years and opened a small country store near Devine, Texas. I grew up there attending a small country school, Shook School, and later I went to the big city high school of Devine, 1500 people, from which I graduated. Much to the surprise of my English teachers. Made bread at a bakery in San Antonio, Texas and sold Dr Pepper drinks for a while before joining the United States Air Force in February 1953. My intentions were to be a pilot but physical limitations dictated otherwise. However I made good use of the training I got in electronics which served me very well for the next twenty-five years or so. I left the Air Force in 1957 and worked a short time for Chance Vought Aircraft, Braniff International Airways. Both no longer in existence. I then started to work for the United States Weather Bureau, later the National Weather Service, and worked there for the next 21 years as an Electronic Technician. I got a chance to retire early from the Weather Service in 1979 and I took it. I then worked for the Xerox Corporation for twelve years until they could not put up with me any more. Wouldn't quit, Wouldn't resign, Wouldn't retire; so they fired me. :-) ( Not so sad. I was fully vested.) Since then I have taken full advantage of being retired and working only where and when I wanted to. Temporary agencies, driving a shuttle bus at the airport. IBM for a while until one day they said we would be working every day for a month. I said I wasn't and that was that. I worked half-time for the Austin State School . In many ways it is the best job I have ever had. Austin State School is a facility for the mentally retarded. I was surprised at how attached I became to the men and women that reside there. Their needs are great and are appreciative of the simple action of shaking hands when you greet them. I retired there in 1999. I still visit some of the friends I made there. After reitring from The Austin State School I did nothing for a year. I then began part time work with the Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impared as a Weekends Home Escort. The school sends the students home each weekend, if they wish to go. I work the San Antonio route. I, with two others, ride along to make sure the students do not misbehave, keep them entertained and help them when we make a rest stop. I make the trip twice a week. Usually on a Friday when we take them home and on Sunday when we return them to school. The entire trip, to San Antonio and back, takes about five hours which is idea for me. I married to the beautiful Rosa Lee 43 years ago. One son ( The computer guru of the family ) and am I am sixty-nine years old. Retired; National Weather Service, United States Air Force Reserve, Xerox Corporation and the Texas Mental Health and Mental Retardation Agency. I spend too much time on newsgroups such as alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs, alt.fifty-plus.friends, alt.sixtyplus, alt.misc.friends, alt.config, alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup and alt.sci.natural.phenomena.unusual . But it is fun. :-) -- Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com Austin, Texas USA Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F9C9D0F.5F83B4D3@bellsouth.net> From: Shirley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Clotted Cream References: <3f9b29fe.18482786@news.individual.net> <3F9BEF08.45C43CBC@bellsouth.net> <3f9c4b37.3896506@news.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ofjmidbaofeaohdodbdpiflmbcekedmfhojhikkbagflhcbohjmigbboadonnapgonlcgipgbghojkhmbiajbpjkbohjcdhlcljhicihigpdmfflmiadpcjpabapnobeijbjajjjgbjpaokojoddlmklfofdiejfegcmjhhibopfakdb NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:19:56 EST Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:20:31 -0500 Status: O Content-Length: 567 Lines: 24 jingles wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:58:01 -0500, Shirley > wrote: > > >> jingles > > > > > > > >I just ordered some Devon Double Clotted Cream, Lady Grey Tea and Norfolk > >Manor Walnut Biscuits to serve at a Tea Party for my Granddaughter and > >some of her friends....we will have cucumber and watercress sandwiches, > >scones, tea cakes, strawberries with our tea....they are very excited > >about it.... > > > > That sounds wonderful....have you room at the table for just one more? > > jingles I sure do....come on over....>g< From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Clotted Cream Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:53:49 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ca4cb.433391@news.individual.net> References: <3f9b29fe.18482786@news.individual.net> <3F9BEF08.45C43CBC@bellsouth.net> <3f9c4b37.3896506@news.individual.net> <3F9C9D0F.5F83B4D3@bellsouth.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067230431 35234614 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 690 Lines: 29 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:20:31 -0500, Shirley wrote: > > >jingles wrote: > >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:58:01 -0500, Shirley >> wrote: >> >> >> jingles >> > >> > >> > >> >I just ordered some Devon Double Clotted Cream, Lady Grey Tea and Norfolk >> >Manor Walnut Biscuits to serve at a Tea Party for my Granddaughter and >> >some of her friends....we will have cucumber and watercress sandwiches, >> >scones, tea cakes, strawberries with our tea....they are very excited >> >about it.... >> > >> >> That sounds wonderful....have you room at the table for just one more? >> >> jingles > >I sure do....come on over....>g< > I'm on my way From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Clotted Cream Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:55:04 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ca4f0.470138@news.individual.net> References: <3f9b29fe.18482786@news.individual.net> <3f9c6662$0$497$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067230505 35234614 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 307 Lines: 12 On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:27:14 +1100, "Bigbazza" wrote: >> jingles > >Thanks for the Clotted Cream recipe..Jingles...Have you tried it yourself >yet ?..Love all the unhealthy things ... > >Bigbazza(Barry)..Oz No I haven't Bazza... my resistance is low enough as it is jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: In song Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:56:42 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ca566.588164@news.individual.net> References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> <3f9c5675.2582729@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067230605 35234614 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2763 Lines: 73 We were wily Sea....we bought a house that had just been fully renovated..... jingles On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:33:22 -0500, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >Hi Jingles, >There's nothing like approval to perk up our spirits. >I'm not sure what happened to all the posters. >You'd think there would be more of them, since the >cold weather keeps us indoors more. >DH & I have been occupied with household chores and >repairs lately. I've been running to the store to buy >sandpaper and paintbrushes. Thrilling! LOL >The hardware store is another world with another >language altogether. I never knew there were so many >kinds of sandpaper and paintbrushes. >I was told by "150 grit" sandpaper. I found two kinds, >both marked "150 grit", but one was coarser than the >other. Of course I was skilled at testing coarseness >because we women have to deal with nail files all our >lives. Experience counts. LOL >---Sea > >"jingles" wrote >> Hi Sea - I am getting a lot of approval lately.... the words >> just came to me as I sat in front of my empty screen trying to decide >> what to do with the rest of my time... >> I noticed you hadn't been around as much as usual....do you think with >> the approach of winter all the posters have gone into hibernation? >> Tim should be back in the not too distant future, but at the moment >> she has a number of things which are taking up her time.... >> You are correct of course about retirement.....every day is >> Saturday....I have a friend who get very cross because retirees don't >> get Public Holidays.....he has a point ..... >> Better fly, I have a doctor's appointment in 30 minutes... >> jingles >> >> wrote: >> >Jingles, >> >Did you make those lyrics up? Excellent! >> >I've noticed that the newsgroup has been slower >> >than usual. I drop by and see nothing that I can >> >respond to. I have an idea for another thread. >> >I'll try it out now. >> >---Sea >> >PS-"Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week..." >> > Remember that song? (g) o/~ >> > Of course it's Sunday night here, but who keeps >> > track of the days when one is retired? (g) >> > >> >"jingles" wrote >> >> "Are you lonsome tonight, >> >> Do you miss me tonight, >> >> Are you sorry there's no one online? >> >> >> >> Does your memory stray, >> >> To a quite different day, >> >> When you logged on, and things were so fine...? >> >> >> >> Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? >> >> Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? >> >> Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, >> >> >> >> Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." >> >> jingles > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:59:01 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ca5be.676082@news.individual.net> References: <3f9c4bb8.4025444@news.individual.net> <2003102623311776656@zetnet.co.uk> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067230743 35234614 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 707 Lines: 23 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:31:17 GMT, Anne Jackson wrote: > >I think the Net develops a lot of problems at the weekend? I know >that if I'm going to have problems, that's when they turn up! > >As for posting, well I've been in bed since Wednesday with the >mother and father of all colds! I only get a cold once a decade, >for which I'm more than thankful, but when I _do_ get one.......! > >-- >AnneJ > ICQ #:- 119531282 You are probably right....the kids are off school and I am sure they make the most of the time. Sorry to hear you have been sick, I hope you are feeling better now. Looking forward to seeing more of your posts now you are on your feet again. jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Checking in while I can Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:02:03 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ca66b.849290@news.individual.net> References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067230925 35234614 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 3426 Lines: 87 Wouldn't hurt to put your main essentials in a bag Joy....to be on the safe side....if you have to leave in the dark, it would be a simple matter to grab the bag. You can always unpack them when the danger is past.....Chin up lass.... (((J))) jingles On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:24:39 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >Thank you, Jingles. Most of the homes that were destroyed were from >other fires, about a hundred miles from me. There were a few that were >destroyed closer to me, but not many. To tell the truth, there are two >main reasons I haven't packed up and driven to my daughter's house >already. First is the overwhelming task of figuring out what to take, >and packing it. The second is the fact that I have two cats and so does >my daughter. The thought of four miserable cats makes the idea of going >there rather unattractive. My daughter's cats are strictly indoor cats, >while mine are indoor/outdoor. I'd probably have to keep them shut in >one room, which would not be fun. If I have to do it, I will, but I >haven't reached that point yet. > >I am making lists of what I would want to take, and I located my fire >insurance policy and put it out, ready to grab. Other than that, I'm in >a holding pattern right now. If we have another power failure after it >gets dark, which it will in a couple of hours or less, I'll probably >decide to go. Of course, if that happens, I'll wish I'd gone sooner. I >may do some packing in a while, just in case. > >When I was a kid, I couldn't wait to be grown up so I could make my own >decisions. Now I'd give anything if I didn't have to make some of those >decisions! > >Joy > > > >"jingles" wrote in message >news:3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net... >> >> Hi Joy, >> Sorry to hear that things are so bad.....don't be too brave, pack up >> those cats and go stay with your daughter. >> The last newspaper report was 200 homes destroyed but we know that >> this figure can escalate rapidly when the bushfires are out of >> control. >> If you get this message, know that my thoughts are with you...take >> care... >> jingles >> >> >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:13:25 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: >> >> >The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once >> >this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. >> > >> >The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any >> >evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between >Ventura >> >County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having >> >fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been >destroyed. >> >Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in >> >Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been >> >closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. >> > >> >The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I >have >> >my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My >> >daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, >> >but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I >> >start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get >> >there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. >> > >> >I hope I'm making sense. >> > >> >-- >> >Joy >> > >> >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg >> > >> > >> > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:11:12 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ca819.1279617@news.individual.net> References: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067231474 35141553 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2534 Lines: 64 'The Big Smoke' is a term generally used for the big cities. Melbourne is the capital of Victoria, that is the little State just as the bottom end of Australia... The 'ten pound cruise' was again a term used to describe the trip to Australia by British Migrants. It cost them ten pounds, but they had to stay in Australia for two years or repay the fare out and the fare back to the UK. Another term was 'Ten quid tourists' jingles On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:03:32 -0500, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >Jingles, >Why do they call it the Melbourne 'big smoke'? >And what is the significance of "the ten pound cruise"? >I already know you're in Australia, but perhaps some >people don't realize where Melbourne is. >I know that's hard for you to believe (g), but it's possible. >At this point in my life's memory, I hear familiar names >of places, but sometimes I have no idea where they >are. Somehow, my reference memory isn't as good >as it used to be. Perhaps that's true of others? >---Sea > >"jingles" wrote >> Not a bad idea Sea... >> I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... >> I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have >> never regretted it. >> Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple >> of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town >> about 100 miles from Melbourne. >> We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among >> people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when >> you pass in the street. >> Loving it of course. >> jingles >> >> wrote: >> >ROLL CALL! >> >A few years ago on another message board, >> >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". >> >Posters would jump in and let us know they were >> >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. >> >So... how about it? Let's do it! >> >As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. >> >DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from >> >downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the >> >Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the >> >boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. >> >After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that >> >I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house >> >nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the >> >cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled >> >and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but >> >somebody's gotta do it. (g) >> >How about you? >> >---Sea > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:12:01 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ca907.1517497@news.individual.net> References: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067231523 35141553 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2563 Lines: 69 No it's not it is a little village in Derbyshire UK.... jingles On 27 Oct 2003 01:22:00 GMT, Dink wrote: >I'm a geography whiz kid... I know where Melbourne is. It's in Florida. >http://www.melbourneflorida.org/ > >Dink :) > >"~~seadancer~~" wrote in news:bnhngq$10vbmd$1 >@ID-178699.news.uni-berlin.de: > >> Jingles, >> Why do they call it the Melbourne 'big smoke'? >> And what is the significance of "the ten pound cruise"? >> I already know you're in Australia, but perhaps some >> people don't realize where Melbourne is. >> I know that's hard for you to believe (g), but it's possible. >> At this point in my life's memory, I hear familiar names >> of places, but sometimes I have no idea where they >> are. Somehow, my reference memory isn't as good >> as it used to be. Perhaps that's true of others? >> ---Sea >> >> "jingles" wrote >>> Not a bad idea Sea... >>> I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... >>> I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have >>> never regretted it. >>> Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple >>> of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town >>> about 100 miles from Melbourne. >>> We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among >>> people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when >>> you pass in the street. >>> Loving it of course. >>> jingles >>> >>> wrote: >>> >ROLL CALL! >>> >A few years ago on another message board, >>> >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". >>> >Posters would jump in and let us know they were >>> >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. >>> >So... how about it? Let's do it! >>> >As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. >>> >DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from >>> >downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the >>> >Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the >>> >boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. >>> >After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that >>> >I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house >>> >nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the >>> >cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled >>> >and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but >>> >somebody's gotta do it. (g) >>> >How about you? >>> >---Sea >> >> >> >-- >N 30.21, W 97.81 >"A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around >three times before lying down." ~~ Robert Benchley From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:14:40 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ca99b.1665063@news.individual.net> References: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067231682 35141553 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 2566 Lines: 70 Melton is between Melbourne and Ballarat....we pass the turn off every time we travel to Melbourne jingles On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:15:10 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"~~seadancer~~" wrote in message >news:bnhngq$10vbmd$1@ID-178699.news.uni-berlin.de... >> Jingles, >> Why do they call it the Melbourne 'big smoke'? >> And what is the significance of "the ten pound cruise"? >> I already know you're in Australia, but perhaps some >> people don't realize where Melbourne is. >> I know that's hard for you to believe (g), but it's possible. >> At this point in my life's memory, I hear familiar names >> of places, but sometimes I have no idea where they >> are. Somehow, my reference memory isn't as good >> as it used to be. Perhaps that's true of others? >> ---Sea > >I know where Melbourne is but only because I have >outlaws living in Melton, I have never been though >have an open invitation. > >>^..^< >***** >> >> "jingles" wrote >> > Not a bad idea Sea... >> > I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... >> > I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have >> > never regretted it. >> > Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple >> > of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town >> > about 100 miles from Melbourne. >> > We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among >> > people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when >> > you pass in the street. >> > Loving it of course. >> > jingles >> > >> > wrote: >> > >ROLL CALL! >> > >A few years ago on another message board, >> > >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". >> > >Posters would jump in and let us know they were >> > >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. >> > >So... how about it? Let's do it! >> > >As for me, I'm from New York State in the USA. >> > >DH and I retired back in 1991. We moved from >> > >downstate NY to an upstate NY resort area in the >> > >Adirondack Mountains. We found a cottage in the >> > >boonies with a view of Lake George & the mountains. >> > >After 12 years of living in the sticks, I realized that >> > >I'm a city gal. (lol) So this summer, we bought a house >> > >nearer to civilization (45 minutes south), keeping the >> > >cottage as a summer camp. We're still getting settled >> > >and adjusting to our new lifestyle. 'Tain't easy, but >> > >somebody's gotta do it. (g) >> > >How about you? >> > >---Sea >> >> > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:01 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:16:45 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ca9f9.1759116@news.individual.net> References: <52a6abdc.0310261811.671be123@posting.google.com> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067231807 35141553 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 751 Lines: 18 On 26 Oct 2003 18:11:54 -0800, gina39d@yahoo.com (toci) wrote: >I'm a newly retired school psych examiner, and former English and >social studies teacher, in Kansas City, MO. I live with two adult >children and a barely adult grandchild, and two cats. Till recently >I thought I was going to live with a male Texan friend in Texas, but >he got religion and moved to a nunnery- well, Chirch of Christ >retirement house- instead. We're currently on let's be friends penpal >status. My daughter may move where a job calls her (she's a Ph.D. >psychologist) and my grandson may go away to college next school year. > Toci A lot of 'maybes' there Toci....guess you had better live for today.... Nice to hear something about you.... jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:24:04 GMT Message-ID: <3f9caaa2.1928679@news.individual.net> References: Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067232247 34897508 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 4744 Lines: 100 OK! you're hired......(just joking) an interesting life you have had Eugene..... It is amazing how no matter what we do for a living, it is usually the job we do with the most vulnerable which rates the highest. I had a number of jobs which could be called 'high profile' but the one I loved most was my final one when I was the secretary/bursar of a Primary School. I comforted many a little kid who was away from his mother for the first time, and provided many a pair of dry pants from my special cupboard for littlies who were too nervous to ask to go to the toilet....For several years after I retired, I would be surprised, while out shoppin, to get a hug from some High School student that I had known as a 'prep'. jingles On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:53:53 -0600, Eugene A. Calame wrote: >On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:44:49 -0500, "~~seadancer~~" >wrote: > >>ROLL CALL! >>A few years ago on another message board, >>I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". >>Posters would jump in and let us know they were >>still around and would tell a bit about themselves. >>So... how about it? Let's do it! > >OK; how about this.... > >I was born September, 9, 1934 in Beckham County, Oklahoma near the small town of >Erick. I am the youngest of three children. All born during those bad old days >referred to as the depression. To the credit of my parents I was never aware >that those days were bad. > >My family moved to Medina County, Texas in my first years and opened a small >country store near Devine, Texas. I grew up there attending a small country >school, Shook School, and later I went to the big city high school of Devine, >1500 people, from which I graduated. Much to the surprise of my English >teachers. > >Made bread at a bakery in San Antonio, Texas and sold Dr Pepper drinks for a >while before joining the United States Air Force in February 1953. My intentions >were to be a pilot but physical limitations dictated otherwise. However I made >good use of the training I got in electronics which served me very well for the >next twenty-five years or so. > >I left the Air Force in 1957 and worked a short time for Chance Vought Aircraft, >Braniff International Airways. Both no longer in existence. I then started to >work for the United States Weather Bureau, later the National Weather Service, >and worked there for the next 21 years as an Electronic Technician. I got a >chance to retire early from the Weather Service in 1979 and I took it. > >I then worked for the Xerox Corporation for twelve years until they could not >put up with me any more. Wouldn't quit, Wouldn't resign, Wouldn't retire; so >they fired me. :-) ( Not so sad. I was fully vested.) Since then I have taken >full advantage of being retired and working only where and when I wanted to. >Temporary agencies, driving a shuttle bus at the airport. IBM for a while until >one day they said we would be working every day for a month. I said I wasn't and >that was that. > >I worked half-time for the Austin State School . In many ways it is the best >job I have ever had. Austin State School is a facility for the mentally >retarded. I was surprised at how attached I became to the men and women that >reside there. Their needs are great and are appreciative of the simple action of >shaking hands when you greet them. I retired there in 1999. I still visit some >of the friends I made there. > > >After reitring from The Austin State School I did nothing for a year. I then >began part time work with the Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impared as >a Weekends Home Escort. The school sends the students home each weekend, if >they wish to go. I work the San Antonio route. I, with two others, ride along >to make sure the students do not misbehave, keep them entertained and help them >when we make a rest stop. I make the trip twice a week. Usually on a Friday >when we take them home and on Sunday when we return them to school. The entire >trip, to San Antonio and back, takes about five hours which is idea for me. > >I married to the beautiful Rosa Lee 43 years ago. One son ( The computer guru >of the family ) and am I am sixty-nine years old. > > >Retired; National Weather Service, United States Air Force Reserve, Xerox >Corporation and the Texas Mental Health and Mental Retardation Agency. > > >I spend too much time on newsgroups such as alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs, >alt.fifty-plus.friends, alt.sixtyplus, alt.misc.friends, alt.config, >alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup and alt.sci.natural.phenomena.unusual . But it is >fun. :-) > > >-- >Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com >Austin, Texas USA > >Please ask your ISP to add the newsgroup alt.misc.friends From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net> <3f9ca66b.849290@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: Checking in while I can X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:20:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.170 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067239259 32.103.153.170 (Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:20:59 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:20:59 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 3892 Lines: 119 Thanks, Jingles. Things are looking better now. The fire has moved east, and the wind has died down. If the wind stays low long enough, the firefighters might be able to gain some control. Joy "jingles" wrote in message news:3f9ca66b.849290@news.individual.net... > > Wouldn't hurt to put your main essentials in a bag Joy....to be on the > safe side....if you have to leave in the dark, it would be a simple > matter to grab the bag. You can always unpack them when the danger > is past.....Chin up lass.... > (((J))) > jingles > > > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:24:39 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > > >Thank you, Jingles. Most of the homes that were destroyed were from > >other fires, about a hundred miles from me. There were a few that were > >destroyed closer to me, but not many. To tell the truth, there are two > >main reasons I haven't packed up and driven to my daughter's house > >already. First is the overwhelming task of figuring out what to take, > >and packing it. The second is the fact that I have two cats and so does > >my daughter. The thought of four miserable cats makes the idea of going > >there rather unattractive. My daughter's cats are strictly indoor cats, > >while mine are indoor/outdoor. I'd probably have to keep them shut in > >one room, which would not be fun. If I have to do it, I will, but I > >haven't reached that point yet. > > > >I am making lists of what I would want to take, and I located my fire > >insurance policy and put it out, ready to grab. Other than that, I'm in > >a holding pattern right now. If we have another power failure after it > >gets dark, which it will in a couple of hours or less, I'll probably > >decide to go. Of course, if that happens, I'll wish I'd gone sooner. I > >may do some packing in a while, just in case. > > > >When I was a kid, I couldn't wait to be grown up so I could make my own > >decisions. Now I'd give anything if I didn't have to make some of those > >decisions! > > > >Joy > > > > > > > >"jingles" wrote in message > >news:3f9c581c.3005523@news.individual.net... > >> > >> Hi Joy, > >> Sorry to hear that things are so bad.....don't be too brave, pack up > >> those cats and go stay with your daughter. > >> The last newspaper report was 200 homes destroyed but we know that > >> this figure can escalate rapidly when the bushfires are out of > >> control. > >> If you get this message, know that my thoughts are with you...take > >> care... > >> jingles > >> > >> > >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:13:25 GMT, "Yoj" wrote: > >> > >> >The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once > >> >this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > >> > > >> >The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any > >> >evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between > >Ventura > >> >County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having > >> >fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been > >destroyed. > >> >Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in > >> >Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been > >> >closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > >> > > >> >The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I > >have > >> >my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My > >> >daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, > >> >but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I > >> >start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get > >> >there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > >> > > >> >I hope I'm making sense. > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Joy > >> > > >> >Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: From the Newsroom Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:47:14 GMT Message-ID: <3f9ccd65.10829135@news.individual.net> Reply-To: mommabear@mail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: as1-158.bal.vic.chariot.net.au (203.87.44.158) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067240835 35053552 203.87.44.158 (16 [11862]) X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Status: O Content-Length: 3868 Lines: 93 I think this topic has raised its head before.... "Drugs threaten US trade deal By Roy Eccleston and John Kerin October 27, 2003 A NEW row over Australia's national cheap drug scheme is threatening efforts to clinch a US free trade deal by the Christmas deadline. As officials from both nations hold talks in Canberra this week, The Australian has also learned the latest offer by US negotiators would mean up to 80per cent of American farm produce would be off- limits to Australian competition in the first year. The offer - which would open up only one-fifth of US primary industry - would mean sensitive areas such as beef, sugar and dairy were off-limits. Australia's $5billion-a-year Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme provides subsidised drugs to consumers at affordable prices, but it is under attack from the powerful US drug company lobby because the industry claims it depresses the prices. US President George W. Bush also raised concerns with John Howard during talks in Canberra on Thursday about the political difficulties he faces in the US over perceptions drug prices are too low in Australia. But he has instructed US negotiators to get a deal by the end of the year. Any relaxing of restrictions on the approval and pricing process for the $4billion-a-year subsidised drugs scheme is politically sensitive for the Prime Minister because it would mean higher drug prices for Australian consumers. US Trade Representative Robert Zoellick has referred to Australia's PBS as a "pharmaceutical protection system", signalling the US wants changes. He has also expressed concern about Australia's quarantine system and restrictions on foreign investment. "(We have) issues dealing with foreign investment, dealing with cultural carve-out, dealing with (Australia's) pharmaceutical protection system as well as a series of market access issues," Mr Zoellick said at the APEC summit in Bangkok last week. But Health Minister Tony Abbott said yesterday the PBS would not be negotiated away in a free trade agreement. "The Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme will not be a bargaining chip in these negotiations and frankly, it shouldn't be, because the (PBS) does not discriminate between overseas and locally produced drugs," Mr Abbott said. "It is not a trade instrument ... it is an instrument for ensuring that Australians get reasonable access to affordable drugs." Trade Minister Mark Vaile maintained the US had only formally registered concerns about delays in getting products approved for the Australian market, rather than the structure of the scheme. Mr Zoellick also revealed in Bangkok last week that the US did not propose an immediate major increase in market access for Australian farmers. He said under the latest US offer on agriculture - already described as inadequate by the Howard Government - lamb and "some 21per cent of our products" would have protection eliminated in the first year. But Australian officials pointed out lamb had virtually no tariff now in the US - and the comment suggested that almost 80per cent of American farm products would initially retain existing levels of protection. Mr Zoellick did not say which products were in the 21per cent. But they are almost certainly not the sensitive areas like beef, dairy, sugar and cotton. For those, it appears the US would phase in increased access for Australian products over years - possibly up to a decade or more. Trade negotiators from the US and Australia hold their penultimate meeting in Canberra this week and the offers from both sides have been kept from public view. Mr Vaile said yesterday there was a better than 50per cent chance of negotiating an agreement by Christmas, but Australia needed to ensure it was locked in before the US was distracted by domestic issues in the lead-up to an election. The Australian" jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3f9c5a2e.3535401@news.individual.net> <3f9ca819.1279617@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067247692 35881909 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1739 Lines: 43 Thanks for the info, Jingles. Much appreciated. ---Sea "jingles" wrote > 'The Big Smoke' is a term generally used for the big cities. > Melbourne is the capital of Victoria, that is the little State just > as the bottom end of Australia... > The 'ten pound cruise' was again a term used to describe the trip to > Australia by British Migrants. It cost them ten pounds, but they > had to stay in Australia for two years or repay the fare out and the > fare back to the UK. > Another term was 'Ten quid tourists' > jingles > > wrote: > >Jingles, > >Why do they call it the Melbourne 'big smoke'? > >And what is the significance of "the ten pound cruise"? > >I already know you're in Australia, but perhaps some > >people don't realize where Melbourne is. > >I know that's hard for you to believe (g), but it's possible. > >At this point in my life's memory, I hear familiar names > >of places, but sometimes I have no idea where they > >are. Somehow, my reference memory isn't as good > >as it used to be. Perhaps that's true of others? > >---Sea > > > >"jingles" wrote > >> Not a bad idea Sea... > >> I'm pretty well known I suppose....but... > >> I am a Brit who took the ten pound cruise over 50 years ago and have > >> never regretted it. > >> Spent the first 50 years in Melbourne....the 'big smoke' but a couple > >> of years ago we took the plunge and moved to a large country town > >> about 100 miles from Melbourne. > >> We have all the facilities we need and a laid back lifestyle among > >> people with a strong community spirit and the time to say 'Hi' when > >> you pass in the street. > >> Loving it of course. > >> jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:45:52 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067278033 5214 194.222.103.116 (27 Oct 2003 18:07:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:07:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1539 Lines: 33 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >What a grand idea! I'm from the USA and have >never heard of Ivy Benson, but I think you've >done a good thing bringing back old memories. >Some quotes: >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"Sooner or later we all discover that the important > moments in life are not the advertised ones, not > the birthdays, the graduations, the weddings, not > the great goals achieved. The real milestones are > less prepossessing. They come to the door of memory." >-Susan B. Anthony (1820-1906) US social reformer, suffragist I always prefer to buy surprise presents for my SO when I see something suitable, rather than search in vain at birthdays, and as for Christmas - Yuck! Flowers are more expensive on Mothers Day and at Christmas. Of course, I come unstuck sometimes - last time I bought two bunches of flowers for M**** she asked "What are these for? What have you been up to"? :-( > >"I have liked remembering almost as much as I have liked living." >-William Maxwell, Essay: "Nearing 90", NYTimes Magazine, 3/9/97. >(William Maxwell was a fiction editor > at "The New Yorker " Magazine for 40 years.) > This is one of my favorite quotes. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As we get older, our memories usually fill our lives more fully that new exciting experiences, which tend to diminish, unless we are very fortunate. The advantage of this is that our imaginations can enhance those memories, whereas our bodies tell the truth - that we are slowing down. :-) -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:46:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: <52a6abdc.0310261811.671be123@posting.google.com> <3f9ca9f9.1759116@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067248063 34803958 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 984 Lines: 25 "jingles" wrote gina39d@yahoo.com (toci) wrote: > >I'm a newly retired school psych examiner, and former English and > >social studies teacher, in Kansas City, MO. I live with two adult > >children and a barely adult grandchild, and two cats. Till recently > >I thought I was going to live with a male Texan friend in Texas, but > >he got religion and moved to a nunnery- well, Chirch of Christ > >retirement house- instead. We're currently on let's be friends penpal > >status. My daughter may move where a job calls her (she's a Ph.D. > >psychologist) and my grandson may go away to college next school year. > > Toci > > A lot of 'maybes' there Toci....guess you had better live for > today.... > Nice to hear something about you.... > jingles Good advice, Jingles..."live for today". Sometimes we spend time worrying instead of enjoying the moment we're in. It sounds like simple advice, but it has great meaning. ---Sea, worrier... (g) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: In song Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:52:54 +0000 Message-ID: References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067278035 5214 194.222.103.116 (27 Oct 2003 18:07:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:07:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 767 Lines: 27 ~~seadancer~~ wrote >Jingles, >Did you make those lyrics up? Excellent! She should have at least made some reference to Elvis, who will be disappointed by the lack of attribution. >I've noticed that the newsgroup has been slower >than usual. I drop by and see nothing that I can >respond to. I have an idea for another thread. >I'll try it out now. >---Sea Trouble is that everyone has been dropping by and writing nothing, and when that happens the group is empty. Conversation between 3 blokes: Where have you been? I drop in the pub most evenings at 7 and it's been empty. I call in EVERY night at 8 oclock and nobody's there. I was there from 7:15 to 7:45 for the last two weeks and I didn't see either of you...... -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: ROLL CALL - Check in please... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:07:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067249275 35662056 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 4668 Lines: 124 Thanks for the bio, Eugene. Nice to know more about you. I see we're the same age and both had 2 siblings. I was the "middle child" in family of three girls. I've always lived in New York State. I taught elementary school for 5 years before I was married and substituted for 12 years while raising a family. I also worked in special education as a teacher's aide for 4 years. It was steadier than substituting. As Jingles suggested, working with young children can be very rewarding. After our 4 boys grew up, I left teaching and went into the business world, working as a pension payment coordinator in the finance department of a pension fund. I don't regret the change of profession because it expanded my horizons, as I'm sure all your changes expanded yours. ---Sea "Eugene A. Calame" wrote "~~seadancer~~" wrote: > >ROLL CALL! > >A few years ago on another message board, > >I remember we used to have "Roll Calls". > >Posters would jump in and let us know they were > >still around and would tell a bit about themselves. > >So... how about it? Let's do it! > > OK; how about this.... > I was born September, 9, 1934 in Beckham County, Oklahoma near the small town of > Erick. I am the youngest of three children. All born during those bad old days > referred to as the depression. To the credit of my parents I was never aware > that those days were bad. > > My family moved to Medina County, Texas in my first years and opened a small > country store near Devine, Texas. I grew up there attending a small country > school, Shook School, and later I went to the big city high school of Devine, > 1500 people, from which I graduated. Much to the surprise of my English > teachers. > > Made bread at a bakery in San Antonio, Texas and sold Dr Pepper drinks for a > while before joining the United States Air Force in February 1953. My intentions > were to be a pilot but physical limitations dictated otherwise. However I made > good use of the training I got in electronics which served me very well for the > next twenty-five years or so. > > I left the Air Force in 1957 and worked a short time for Chance Vought Aircraft, > Braniff International Airways. Both no longer in existence. I then started to > work for the United States Weather Bureau, later the National Weather Service, > and worked there for the next 21 years as an Electronic Technician. I got a > chance to retire early from the Weather Service in 1979 and I took it. > > I then worked for the Xerox Corporation for twelve years until they could not > put up with me any more. Wouldn't quit, Wouldn't resign, Wouldn't retire; so > they fired me. :-) ( Not so sad. I was fully vested.) Since then I have taken > full advantage of being retired and working only where and when I wanted to. > Temporary agencies, driving a shuttle bus at the airport. IBM for a while until > one day they said we would be working every day for a month. I said I wasn't and > that was that. > > I worked half-time for the Austin State School . In many ways it is the best > job I have ever had. Austin State School is a facility for the mentally > retarded. I was surprised at how attached I became to the men and women that > reside there. Their needs are great and are appreciative of the simple action of > shaking hands when you greet them. I retired there in 1999. I still visit some > of the friends I made there. > > After reitring from The Austin State School I did nothing for a year. I then > began part time work with the Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impared as > a Weekends Home Escort. The school sends the students home each weekend, if > they wish to go. I work the San Antonio route. I, with two others, ride along > to make sure the students do not misbehave, keep them entertained and help them > when we make a rest stop. I make the trip twice a week. Usually on a Friday > when we take them home and on Sunday when we return them to school. The entire > trip, to San Antonio and back, takes about five hours which is idea for me. > > I married to the beautiful Rosa Lee 43 years ago. One son ( The computer guru > of the family ) and am I am sixty-nine years old. > > Retired; National Weather Service, United States Air Force Reserve, Xerox > Corporation and the Texas Mental Health and Mental Retardation Agency. > > I spend too much time on newsgroups such as alt.penpals.forty-plus-yrs, > alt.fifty-plus.friends, alt.sixtyplus, alt.misc.friends, alt.config, > alt.how.to.create.a.newsgroup and alt.sci.natural.phenomena.unusual . But it is > fun. :-) > Eugene A. Calame eacalame@excite.com > Austin, Texas USA From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: In song Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:12:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> <3f9c5675.2582729@news.individual.net> <3f9ca566.588164@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067249582 33945739 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 3014 Lines: 73 We love our new house and would have bought it no matter what. We searched for years before we found it. It seems perfect to us. ---Sea "jingles" wrote > We were wily Sea....we bought a house that had > just been fully renovated..... > jingles > > wrote: > >Hi Jingles, > >There's nothing like approval to perk up our spirits. > >I'm not sure what happened to all the posters. > >You'd think there would be more of them, since the > >cold weather keeps us indoors more. > >DH & I have been occupied with household chores and > >repairs lately. I've been running to the store to buy > >sandpaper and paintbrushes. Thrilling! LOL > >The hardware store is another world with another > >language altogether. I never knew there were so many > >kinds of sandpaper and paintbrushes. > >I was told by "150 grit" sandpaper. I found two kinds, > >both marked "150 grit", but one was coarser than the > >other. Of course I was skilled at testing coarseness > >because we women have to deal with nail files all our > >lives. Experience counts. LOL > >---Sea > > > >"jingles" wrote > >> Hi Sea - I am getting a lot of approval lately.... the words > >> just came to me as I sat in front of my empty screen trying to decide > >> what to do with the rest of my time... > >> I noticed you hadn't been around as much as usual....do you think with > >> the approach of winter all the posters have gone into hibernation? > >> Tim should be back in the not too distant future, but at the moment > >> she has a number of things which are taking up her time.... > >> You are correct of course about retirement.....every day is > >> Saturday....I have a friend who get very cross because retirees don't > >> get Public Holidays.....he has a point ..... > >> Better fly, I have a doctor's appointment in 30 minutes... > >> jingles > >> > >> wrote: > >> >Jingles, > >> >Did you make those lyrics up? Excellent! > >> >I've noticed that the newsgroup has been slower > >> >than usual. I drop by and see nothing that I can > >> >respond to. I have an idea for another thread. > >> >I'll try it out now. > >> >---Sea > >> >PS-"Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week..." > >> > Remember that song? (g) o/~ > >> > Of course it's Sunday night here, but who keeps > >> > track of the days when one is retired? (g) > >> > > >> >"jingles" wrote > >> >> "Are you lonsome tonight, > >> >> Do you miss me tonight, > >> >> Are you sorry there's no one online? > >> >> > >> >> Does your memory stray, > >> >> To a quite different day, > >> >> When you logged on, and things were so fine...? > >> >> > >> >> Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? > >> >> Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? > >> >> Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, > >> >> > >> >> Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." > >> >> jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Gordon Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Checking in while I can Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:17:48 +0000 Message-ID: References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: g3snx.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1067278037 5214 194.222.103.116 (27 Oct 2003 18:07:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:07:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S <2ilC9NNyK+3EOLIBKccYYzwOau> Status: O Content-Length: 1475 Lines: 30 Yoj wrote >The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once >this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > >The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any >evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between Ventura >County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having >fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been destroyed. >Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in >Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been >closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > >The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I have >my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My >daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, >but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I >start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get >there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > >I hope I'm making sense. > I think so. Panic measures don't help, but do not hesitate if you get the official warnings either, too many have died already. We have seen some terrifying pictures, and I hope the wind dies and the weather changes real soon, Joy. There is a high price sometimes for living in idyllic places, but there has been some extraordinary weather this last few years. Hang in there. -- Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:49:01 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067259040 35409688 217.137.174.8 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 511 Lines: 14 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:52:40 -0500, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >What a grand idea! I'm from the USA and have >never heard of Ivy Benson, but I think you've >done a good thing bringing back old memories. You would remember her, and her band, if you had been a GI stationed in the UK during WW2............Talk about flies round a jam pot!! In fact, many of her band married GI's and went back to America with them. She was constantly having to look for replacement players. Lanky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: In song Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:49:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067259041 35409688 217.137.174.8 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 744 Lines: 29 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:42:44 GMT, ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote: >"Are you lonsome tonight, >Do you miss me tonight, >Are you sorry there's no one online? > >Does your memory stray, >To a quite different day, >When you logged on, and things were so fine...? > >Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? >Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? >Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, > >Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." > >jingles > This is very good Jingles. I was prompted to have a go myself aimed at certain posters who have recently appeared, but I had to scrap it as a bit too strong. It began: Are you loathsome tonight, Do you post lots of.......... Lanky. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Enough dialogue Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:49:03 +0000 Message-ID: References: <3f95f878.16064208@news.individual.net> <19062-3F96891D-4@storefull-2317.public.lawson.webtv.net> <3f9703f9.6686419@news.individual.net> <39ffpvobh7pr0hopcu9e87n71dqb5iviul@4ax.com> <3f997a63.307528@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067259042 35409688 217.137.174.8 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1167 Lines: 56 On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:15 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >Why did you have to ask that? Lanky! where are you.... >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >jingles >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> I'm here! The can referred to was full of worms. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Lanky. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>Wriggle out of that one. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>^..^< >> >> >>>***** >> >> >>> >> >> >>Why does this remind me of Arthur Askey? >> >> >> >> >> >>Lanky >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >" I'm just a dear little wriggly worm...." >> >> > >> >> >Morning Lanky mi owd mate.... >> >> > >> >> >jingles >> >> > >> >> Morning jingles mi owd mucker. It's right what they say about the >> >> early bird. >> >> One of Arthur's lesser known songs I think. >> >> >> >> Lanky >> > >> >But the second mouse gets the cheese. >> > >> >>^..^< >> >***** >> > >> ^ ^ >> (*)(*) >> =O= Second mouse??? Get up off your backside cat!! >> >> Felix > >Couldn't. . . was still trying to get the first one out >of the trap! > >>^..^< >***** > ..../|,,,/|..... =( ' ; ' )= ...(U U)_/ ,,,,0,,0,,,,, Leave some for me............yummie!! From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:02 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:49:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067259043 35409688 217.137.174.8 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 929 Lines: 34 On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:11:18 +0000 (UTC), "Jan Lancaster" wrote: > >"Lanky" wrote in message >news:kncopvo0efn5t6ss54i0a9ac9das7a52sp@4ax.com... >> On 26 Oct 2003 10:03:47 GMT, Dink wrote: >> >> >Bomb alert over 'break-wind' dog >> >A mechanical novelty toy dog which breaks wind sparked a major security >> >alert at an American airport. >> > >> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3213403.stm >> > >> >Dink >> >> Why keep a dog and fart yourself? >> (6th century proverb - as amended) >> >> Lanky. > >That's a good excuse for non dog owners, >male of course. . . ;-)) > >>^..^< >***** > There is sorrow enough in the natural way >From men and women to fill our day; But when we are certain of sorrow in store, Why do we always arrange or more? Brothers and Sisters, I bid you beware Of giving your heart to a dog to tear. Rudyard Kipling From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:49:05 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.174.8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067259044 35409688 217.137.174.8 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 1824 Lines: 75 On 26 Oct 2003 21:26:41 GMT, Dink wrote: >Lanky wrote in >news:kncopvo0efn5t6ss54i0a9ac9das7a52sp@4ax.com: > >> On 26 Oct 2003 10:03:47 GMT, Dink wrote: >> >>>Bomb alert over 'break-wind' dog >>>A mechanical novelty toy dog which breaks wind sparked a major security >>>alert at an American airport. >>> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3213403.stm >>> >>>Dink >> >> Why keep a dog and fart yourself? >> (6th century proverb - as amended) >> >> Lanky. >> > >"A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around three >times before lying down." ~~ Robert Benchley > >"Never stand between a dog and a fire hydrant" ~~ Unknown > >Dink Good people all, of every sort, Give ear unto my song; And if you find it wondrous short, It cannot hold you long. In Islington there was a man, Of whom the world might say That still a godly race he ran, Whene'er he went to pray. A kind and gentle heart he had, To comfort friends and foes; The naked every day he clad, When he put on his clothes. And in that town a dog was found, As many dogs there be, Both mongrel, puppy, whelp and hound, And curs of low degree. This dog and man at first were friends; But when a pique began, The dog, to gain some private ends, Went mad and bit the man. Around from all the neighbouring streets The wondering neighbours ran, And swore the dog had lost his wits, To bite so good a man. The wound it seemed both sore and sad To every Christian eye; And while they swore the dog was mad, They swore the man would die. But soon a wonder came to light, That showed the rogues they lied: The man recovered of the bite, The dog it was that died. -- Oliver Goldsmith -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:24:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067261084 34560434 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 671 Lines: 20 "Lanky" wrote > wrote: > >What a grand idea! I'm from the USA and have > >never heard of Ivy Benson, but I think you've > >done a good thing bringing back old memories. > > You would remember her, and her band, if you had been a GI stationed > in the UK during WW2............Talk about flies round a jam pot!! In > fact, many of her band married GI's and went back to America with > them. She was constantly having to look for replacement players. > > Lanky LOL! "Flies around a jam pot" ! That's a cute expression. That's the first time I've heard it put that way. We usually say "Moths around a flame". ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Mechanical toy dog's farts set airport security on edge. ;-) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:47:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067262540 35966670 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 904 Lines: 28 "Lanky" wrote > There is sorrow enough in the natural way > From men and women to fill our day; > But when we are certain of sorrow in store, > Why do we always arrange or more? > Brothers and Sisters, I bid you beware > Of giving your heart to a dog to tear. > Rudyard Kipling I have the last two lines of that Kipling poem engraved on a dish on my shelf. ("Brothers and Sisters, I bid you beware Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.") I found it in an antique store. It was the first time I had ever seen those lines. The poem asks why we have dogs. My answer: Because they bring us love, and even more important, they evoke love from us. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "To love and be loved is the greatest joy on earth." -Source unknown "To love and be loved is to feel the sun from both sides." -David Viscott ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Lanky Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:17:52 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.137.184.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067264372 33481076 217.137.184.95 (16 [139925]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) Status: O Content-Length: 937 Lines: 27 On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:24:27 -0500, "~~seadancer~~" wrote: >"Lanky" wrote >> wrote: >> >What a grand idea! I'm from the USA and have >> >never heard of Ivy Benson, but I think you've >> >done a good thing bringing back old memories. >> >> You would remember her, and her band, if you had been a GI stationed >> in the UK during WW2............Talk about flies round a jam pot!! In >> fact, many of her band married GI's and went back to America with >> them. She was constantly having to look for replacement players. >> >> Lanky > >LOL! "Flies around a jam pot" ! >That's a cute expression. >That's the first time I've heard it put that way. >We usually say "Moths around a flame". >---Sea > We also say "Moths around a flame" when appropriate, but it sounds rather terminal! We say "Flies around a jam pot" when it better suits the situation. Lanky From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: ladymae_east@hotmail.com (Lady Mae) Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: In song Date: 27 Oct 2003 06:32:30 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <10398d4c.0310270632.5555e532@posting.google.com> References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.194.11.248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1067265150 4924 127.0.0.1 (27 Oct 2003 14:32:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Status: O Content-Length: 1077 Lines: 45 (..strumm plink plink..) Oh my dear Lady Fayre You sound so in despair Are you sorry we drifted apart But what else could we do When our canoe split in two Then you called me a silly old tart (something like that) (Strum pick plinck strummm) Do the threads in your newsgroup Seem empty and bare What on Earth has gone wrong Is it a dearth of hot air (Strummmm strummmm ) Never mind dear old pal (Plink) They'll be baaaaack ... in awhile (Plonk) And I'm sure you won't be lonesome tonight (plink plank plonk) :-D mae ophelia@netconnect.com.au (jingles) wrote in message news:<3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net>... > "Are you lonsome tonight, > Do you miss me tonight, > Are you sorry there's no one online? > > Does your memory stray, > To a quite different day, > When you logged on, and things were so fine...? > > Does your keyboard and desktop look empty and bare? > Do you gaze at your screen and there's nobody there? > Does your heart fill with pain.....Posters come back again, > > Tell me friends, 'cos I'm lonesome tonight." > > jingles From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "~~seadancer~~" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:41:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-24-92-39-42.nycap.rr.com (24.92.39.42) X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067265834 36044507 24.92.39.42 (16 [178699]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 1034 Lines: 30 "Lanky" wrote > >> wrote: > >> >What a grand idea! I'm from the USA and have > >> >never heard of Ivy Benson, but I think you've > >> >done a good thing bringing back old memories. > >> > >> You would remember her, and her band, if you had been a GI stationed > >> in the UK during WW2............Talk about flies round a jam pot!! In > >> fact, many of her band married GI's and went back to America with > >> them. She was constantly having to look for replacement players. > >> > >> Lanky > > > >LOL! "Flies around a jam pot" ! > >That's a cute expression. > >That's the first time I've heard it put that way. > >We usually say "Moths around a flame". > >---Sea > > > We also say "Moths around a flame" when appropriate, but it sounds > rather terminal! We say "Flies around a jam pot" when it better suits > the situation. > Lanky Yes, there's definitely a difference in the connotations of the two sayings. LOL I like the "jam pot" better than the "flame". ---Sea From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102718164276656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:16:42 GMT Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Talking about clocks..... X-Trace: 1067278622 master.news.zetnet.net 197 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 695 Lines: 21 Proudly showing off his new apartment to a couple of his friends late one night, a drunk led the way to his bedroom where there was a big brass gong. "What's that big brass gong for?" one of the guests asked. "It's not a gong. It's a talking clock," the drunk replied. "A talking clock? Seriously?" asked his astonished friend. "Yup," replied the drunk. "How's it work?" the second guest asked, squinting at it. "Watch," the man said. He picked up a hammer, gave it an ear shattering pound and stepped back. The three stood looking at one another for a moment. Suddenly, someone on the other side of the wall screamed, "For god sake, you asshole.. it's ten past three in the morning!" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: Mike Clayton Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: The President Speaks. Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:34:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: <3f973c2b.21075393@news.individual.net> <3f9aeae4.2326406@news.individual.net> <3f9b06b7.9451003@news.individual.net> <0jZ$zrLjM9m$Ewgf@ntlworld.com> Reply-To: mike_clayton@ntlworld.com NNTP-Posting-Host: m237-mp1.cvx1-c.lee.dial.ntli.net (62.252.236.237) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1067279860 35267938 62.252.236.237 (16 [155445]) X-Orig-Path: ntlworld.com!mike_clayton User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U (<7HYqYgwAhFAThcIO+B2jMFZ6dA>) Status: O Content-Length: 571 Lines: 17 In message , Jan Lancaster writes >> Didn't the IRA lob a mortar bomb or two at number 10 a year or so ago? >> I assume that they intended harm to the PM and were not just doing it to >> be annoying :-) >> -- >Forgot about that . . . never was into modern history > >>^..^< Forget about what? -- Mike Clayton Reputation is what other people know about you. Honour is what you know about yourself. Lois McMaster Bujold, "A Civil Campaign", 1999 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <9GXmb.195065$0v4.15127229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Checking in while I can X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:35:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.153.191 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067279726 32.103.153.191 (Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:35:26 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:35:26 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 2089 Lines: 51 "Gordon" wrote in message news:BP+oonAMDPn$EwtV@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > Yoj wrote > >The fires rage on. My power was off twice during the night and once > >this afternoon, so I thought I'd check in while I have power. > > > >The smoke is getting pretty bad. I'm still a long way from any > >evacuation area, but the situation doesn't look good. Between Ventura > >County, where I am, and the other areas in California that are having > >fires, 208,000 acres have been burned and 500 homes have been destroyed. > >Several people have died. There have been 80,000 acres destroyed in > >Ventura County, and both freeways leading into the valley have been > >closed. There are other ways out, but they are bound to be crowded. > > > >The wind is blowing pretty hard, and the sky is gray with smoke. I have > >my battery operated radio on in case of another power failure. My > >daughter has said I can bring my cats and stay with her if I want to, > >but so far I'm sticking it out. If we get an evacuation warning or I > >start having an asthma attack, I'll load up the cats and try to get > >there. Otherwise, I'll stay here. > > > >I hope I'm making sense. > > > I think so. Panic measures don't help, but do not hesitate if you get > the official warnings either, too many have died already. > We have seen some terrifying pictures, and I hope the wind dies and the > weather changes real soon, Joy. There is a high price sometimes for > living in idyllic places, but there has been some extraordinary weather > this last few years. > Hang in there. > -- > Gordon Thank you, Gordon. I would have left if I'd been given an official warning, but I wasn't. The fire has now moved east of me, and is moving south through largely unpopulated areas. The wind is not as bad as it was yesterday, so there is hope that this particular fire can be stopped before it destroys any more homes. There are others in the area called the Inland Empire and in San Diego County that have done a lot more damage and are still a danger. Joy From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Bobbie" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus Subject: Re: Talking about clocks..... Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:36:56 -0000 Message-ID: References: <2003102718164276656@zetnet.co.uk> Reply-To: "Bobbie" NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.79.164.89 X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 1067279804 31133 81.79.164.89 (27 Oct 2003 18:36:44 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Oct 2003 18:36:44 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O Content-Length: 865 Lines: 31 "Anne Jackson" wrote in message news:2003102718164276656@zetnet.co.uk... > Proudly showing off his new apartment to a couple of his > friends late one night, a drunk led the way to his bedroom > where there was a big brass gong. > > "What's that big brass gong for?" one of the guests asked. > > "It's not a gong. It's a talking clock," the drunk replied. > > "A talking clock? Seriously?" asked his astonished friend. > > "Yup," replied the drunk. > > "How's it work?" the second guest asked, squinting at it. > > "Watch," the man said. He picked up a hammer, gave it an > ear shattering pound and stepped back. The three stood > looking at one another for a moment. > > Suddenly, someone on the other side of the wall screamed, > "For god sake, you asshole.. it's ten past three in the > morning!" ROTFLOL...... Bobbie aka Smudge From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102718533176656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:53:31 GMT Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Hallowe'en X-Trace: 1067282703 master.news.zetnet.net 197 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 2064 Lines: 38 A couple were invited to a swanky family masked fancy dress Halloween party. The wife got a terrible headache and told her husband to go to the party alone. He, being a devoted husband, protested, but she argued and said she was going to take some aspirin and go to bed and there was no need for his good time to be spoiled by not going. So he took his costume and away he went. The wife, after sleeping soundly for about an hour, woke without pain and as it was still early, decided to go to the party. As her husband didn't know what her costume was, she thought she would have some fun by watching her husband to see how he acted when she was not with him. So she joined the party and soon spotted her husband in his costume, cavorting around on the dance floor, dancing with every nice "chick" he could and copping a little feel here and a little kiss there. His wife went up to him and being a rather seductive babe herself, he left his new partner high and dry and devoted his time to her. She let him go as far as he wished, naturally, since he was her husband. After more drinks he finally he whispered a little proposition in her ear and she agreed, so off they went to one of the cars and had passionate intercourse in the back seat. Just before unmasking at midnight, she slipped away and went home and put the costume away and got into bed, wondering what kind of explanation he would make up for his outrageous behavior. She was sitting up reading when he came in, so she asked what kind of time he had. "Oh, the same old thing. You know I never have a good time when you're not there." Then she asked, "Did you dance much?" He replied, "I'll tell you, I never even danced one dance. When I got there, I met Pete, Bill Brown and some other guys, so we went into the spare room and played poker all evening." "You must have looked really silly wearing that costume playing poker all night!" she said with caustic sarcasm. To which the husband replied, "Actually, I gave my costume to your Dad, and apparently he had the time of his life." From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102718552576656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:55:25 GMT Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Happily Married X-Trace: 1067282703 master.news.zetnet.net 197 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 1136 Lines: 29 Marty wakes up at home with a huge hangover. He forces himself to open his eyes, and the first thing he sees are a couple of aspirins and a glass of water on the side table. He sits down and sees his clothing in front of him, all clean and pressed. Marty looks around the room and sees that it is in perfect order, spotless, clean. So's the rest of the house. He takes the aspirins and notices a note on the table, reading "Honey, breakfast is on the stove. I left early to go shopping. Love you!" He goes to the kitchen and sure enough, there is a hot breakfast and the morning newspaper. His son is also at the table, eating. Marty asks, "Son, what happened last night?" His son says, "Well, you came home after 3 a.m., drunk and delirious. Broke some furniture, puked in the hallway, and gave yourself a black eye when you stumbled into the door." Confused, Marty asks, "So, why is everything in order and so clean, and breakfast is on the table waiting for me?" His son replies, "Oh, that! Mom dragged you to the bedroom, and when she tried to take your pants off, you yelled, 'Lady, leave me alone, I'm a married man'!" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102718573176656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:57:31 GMT Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: The Honeymoon X-Trace: 1067282703 master.news.zetnet.net 197 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 1415 Lines: 32 85 years of age, Morris married Lou Anne, a lovely 25 year old. Since her new husband is so old, Lou Anne decides that after their wedding she and Morris should have separate bedrooms because she is concerned that her new, but aged husband may overexert himself if they spend the entire night together. After the wedding festivities, Lou Anne prepares herself for bed and the expected "knock" on the door. Sure enough the knock comes, the door opens and there is Morris, her 85 year old groom ready for action. They unite as one. All goes well. Morris takes leave of his bride, and she prepares to go to sleep. After a few minutes, Lou Anne hears another knock on her bedroom door, and it's Morris. Again he is ready for more "action." Somewhat surprised, Lou Anne consents to more coupling. When the newlyweds are done, Morris kisses his bride, bids her a fond goodnight and leaves. She is set to go to sleep again, but Morris is back again, rapping on the door, and is as fresh as a 25 year old ready for more "action." Once again they enjoy each other. But, as Morris is set to leave again, his young bride says to him, "I am thoroughly impressed that at your age you can perform so well and so often. I have been with guys less than a third your age who were only good once. You are truly a great lover, Morris." Morris, somewhat embarrassed, turns to Lou Anne and says: "You mean, I was here already?" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:03 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102719012476656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:01:24 GMT Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Who'd want to work in a bar? X-Trace: 1067282703 master.news.zetnet.net 197 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 730 Lines: 24 A man with no arms walks into a bar and asks for a beer. The bartender shoves the foamy mug in front of him. "Look," says the customer, "I have no arms. Would you please hold the glass up to my mouth?" "Sure," said the bartender, and he did. "Now," said the customer, "I wonder if you'd be so kind as to get my handkerchief from my pocket and wipe the foam off my mouth?" "Certainly." And it was done. "If you reach into my right hand pants pocket, you'll find the money for the beer." The bartender got it. "You've been very kind," said the customer. "There's just one more thing - where's the men's room?" "Out the door," said the bartender, "turn left, walk two blocks, and there's a filling station on the corner." From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10004260.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003102719062976656@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:06:29 GMT Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus From: Anne Jackson X-Mailer: ZIMACS X-UserInfo: Version 2.20 10004260 Subject: Long-Range Weather Forecast X-Trace: 1067282703 master.news.zetnet.net 197 194.247.47.30 Status: O Content-Length: 1072 Lines: 28 The Indians asked their Chief in autumn if the winter was going to be cold or not. Not really knowing the answer, the chief replies that the winter was going to be cold, and that the members of the village were to collect wood to be prepared for a cold winter. Being a good leader, he then went to the next phone booth and called the National Weather Service and asked, "Is this winter to be cold?" The man on the phone responded, "This winter was going to be quite cold indeed." So the Chief went back to speed up his people to collect even more wood to be prepared. A week later he called the National Weather Service again, "Is it going to be a very cold winter?" "Yes", the man replied, "it's going to be a very cold winter." So the Chief goes back to his people and orders them to go and find every scrap of wood they can find. Two weeks later he calls the National Weather Service again "Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?" "Absolutely, we made a study " the weather man replies, "the Indians are collecting wood like crazy!" From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <3f9b5d1f.31574451@news.individual.net> Subject: Re: In song X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:13:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.152.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067282008 32.103.152.188 (Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:13:28 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:13:28 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1050 Lines: 39 I don't think Elvis wrote the original - or any song, as far as I know. -- Joy Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg "Gordon" wrote in message news:muAxAYA2rOn$Ew6X@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >Jingles, > >Did you make those lyrics up? Excellent! > > She should have at least made some reference to Elvis, who will be > disappointed by the lack of attribution. > > >I've noticed that the newsgroup has been slower > >than usual. I drop by and see nothing that I can > >respond to. I have an idea for another thread. > >I'll try it out now. > >---Sea > > Trouble is that everyone has been dropping by and writing nothing, and > when that happens the group is empty. > > Conversation between 3 blokes: > > Where have you been? I drop in the pub most evenings at 7 and it's been > empty. > > I call in EVERY night at 8 oclock and nobody's there. > > I was there from 7:15 to 7:45 for the last two weeks and I didn't see > either of you...... > -- > Gordon From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 21 16:08:04 2022 Path: not-for-mail From: "Yoj" Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus References: <8feb67f7.0310230055.28a27467@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Ivy Bensons All Girls Band X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:15:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.103.152.188 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1067282127 32.103.152.188 (Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:15:27 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:15:27 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Status: O Content-Length: 1151 Lines: 32 "Gordon" wrote in message news:tO5zYOAQlOn$Ew4u@g3snx.demon.co.uk... > ~~seadancer~~ wrote > >What a grand idea! I'm from the USA and have > >never heard of Ivy Benson, but I think you've > >done a good thing bringing back old memories. > >Some quotes: > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >"Sooner or later we all discover that the important > > moments in life are not the advertised ones, not > > the birthdays, the graduations, the weddings, not > > the great goals achieved. The real milestones are > > less prepossessing. They come to the door of memory." > >-Susan B. Anthony (1820-1906) US social reformer, suffragist > > I always prefer to buy surprise presents for my SO when I see something > suitable, rather than search in vain at birthdays, and as for Christmas > - Yuck! Flowers are more expensive on Mothers Day and at Christmas. > Of course, I come unstuck sometimes - last time I bought two bunches of > flowers for M**** she asked "What are these for? What have you been up > to"? :-( It was the two bunches that made her suspicious. That was overkill. ;-) Joy