Hey Saidinn, never apologize for having a different opinion, hon, that's
what this list is all about. And my ego isn't that large that I take
personal offense just cause someone DOES have a different opinion.

Now, concerning Befallen. I wasn't kidding. But then again, perhaps it's
changed since my days long ago. When I was in P4, at level 9, when we got
our first undead spells, myself and 5 others (including another level 9
cleric) went to Befallen. We stayed on the FIRST floor, of course, and
killed the skels and the rats. We also killed Lrodd, who gave us GREAT exp
back then. I never went anywhere my entire P4 beta days after level 9
except Befallen, and we levelled like crazy. We moved downstairs around
level 12 or so, if I recall correctly. But then again, this was beta. So
much has changed even in live since it began.

In live, we went to Befallen about mid-teens I think, and did well on the
second floor down. The problem was there were a LOT of trains. From the
best of my recollection, we left Befallen for Oasis because of the gosh
awful trains. We also went to Permafrost and hunted right there in the zone
corridor, pulling from upstairs by the firepit in the room on your right.
We graduated from Perma in the Flag Room at about level 20, to my
recollection. Back then, our group was like the ONLY ones in all of Perma
on most nites. Occassionally another group would come in and go camp in the
Flag Room, but inevitably they'd wind up training down on us.

Again, we actually did do Befallen at level 9 and did fine, but that was an
awfully long time ago and perhaps a lot has changed. I will defer to those
of you who have had recent experience in Befallen, and I'm sure know it much
better than I now.

Mik