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Message ID: 2204
Date: Tue Nov 16 19:16:19 GMT 1999
Author: Kevin Dailey
Subject: For rose


What gave you the idea that i was using your post as a springboard,
Rose? Our posts are relatively unrelated. And I already said in my post
that the clerics whom I've given advice to didn't bother to take me
seriously.

Thanks for reading, though. And just so everyone on this listserve knows
my feelings, I believe you all are good clerics (at least the ones whom
I've seen post somewhat regularly). Otherwise, you wouldn't be here
reading this stuff while letting your RL work slide :)

Regards,

Llewellen Iowerth

-----Original Message-----
From: Rose [mailto:rliu@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 12:25 PM
To: EQ-Clerics@onelist.com
Subject: RE: [EQ-Clerics] Why do so many clerics think they're wizards?


From: "Rose" <rliu@...>

Hmm well since you are using my post as a stepping ladder to your
rant...lemme just first clarify to you that I know what a cleric's main
function in the group is. Trust me. Everyone loves me as a cleric. My
first char on this game is a ranger, and I got her up to lvl 40....so I
know
what battles are like in tight situation. I KNOW what it is like when a
cleric/healer does not heal...and one that runs around screaming and
wont
stand still for u to taunt the mob off...or one that runs to zone as
soon as
he/she starts to get hit...or one who thinks that nuking is better then
healing. I know these thing. I am not one of those clerics. The best
way
to know how to play a cleric is to first play the opposite...a tank that
can
not heal or heal well...you would know what is expected in a cleric...or
what you think would make the best cleric.

As to my question about cleric soloing...it isnt because I think Im a
wizard. Hell, I know I am not even close in nuking power compare to all
other nukers. The reason why I asked was due to the fact that I just
changed server and I would like to restart a cleric character...but I
want
to catch up to my friends. It is as simple as that...just to let you
know
that my post was not the best springboard that leads to yours. Since I
was
really referring to a "solo" situation and you are really talking about
a
"group" situation. I mean, who cares if the cleric nukes if he/she is
soloing? No one is going to get hurt except for the cleric.

All protestation aside. I have group with other clerics before who do
exactly what you said you hate about them. Yes, it is a low lvl
thing...and
I tend to tell them that they need to sit their butt down, med, and
watch
the health bars, and for god sake dont let that health drops below
50%...esp
for casters. So I think if you want to help the general well being of
your
server...you should take the time and just tell these inexperience
clerics
what their main duty is in the group...you never know, they might become
your regular cleric...and won't you rather have one who you know you can
trust?


-Imogen


> Hi all :)
>
> I've played clerics in the past, and when I was grouped, I knew my job,
> and did it very well. I buffed the tanks before battle, watched their
> health bars carefully during battle, and (at levels before 25) engaged
> in a bit of melee if things were going well. No one had to ask me for a
> heal. I mean, come on. When you go to the doctor, should it be necesary
> for you to ask him to heal you? Hell, no. That's his job, for pete's
> sake.
>
> Anyway, I have recently been playing a barbarian warrior, because I knew
> that I wanted to continue to melee, which would be a no-no for my cleric
> at higher levels. Now, however, I'm finding it very difficult to find
> good clerics to group with. My warrior is level 19 now, and I can
> honestly say that I've yet to find a cleric who knows what the hell he's
> supposed to do in a group. Is this just a problem with lower level
> clerics? I certainly hope so, because if I EVER see a cleric not buffing
> or healing in my groups at higher levels, I'll kick that person out of
> my group faster than you can say "Bob's your uncle!" I won't even bother
> to try explaining to them what they're supposed to do, because by that
> time, they will have already perfected their bad habits. And I have made
> it my solemn duty to NOT get myself or my group killed because of
> someone else's arrogant stupidity/ignorance.
>
> That being said, I want to ask a question. Why are there (seemingly) so
> many clerics out there who nuke? For pete's sake! There's a pefectly
> good nuking class--wizard! Why didn't they choose that class?
>
> I remember when I first got smite, I wanted to show everyone how
> powerful I was. But I quickly got over it, because people much preferred
> my healing and buffing capabilities over a smite or two during battle.
>
> It just irritates the hell out of me when I have to fight side by side
> with a cleric who's at full health and who won't get beat on because he
> can't melee worth a damn AND he won't heal me, even when I'm down to my
> last bubble of health. GRRR!
>
> Anyway, thanks for reading my--somewhat--rant on clerics. If you have
> any advice for me to give these people, I'd be happy to hear it. Any
> time I've tried to offer them advice, they've either ignored me, or gave
> me some lame reason why they do what they do. Sigh.
>
> Maybe I should resurrect my clerics....
>
> Llewellen Iowerth
> Karana server
>
> Just curious...any clerics here solo (or come close to it) to lvl 50?
>
> Is there a good website that tells you how to do the cleric armor quest?
> Like the loc of the items. On a scale of 1-10 (1 being easy and 10
> being
> hard.) What do you rank the cleric quest to be?