Good advice, Sarah. I hadn't thought about that. But as soon as you
mentioned the fact that sitting out a fight can be uncomfortable for a
cleric, I realized that I felt exactly the same way when I was a cleric!
yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I'll have to remember to tell any
future clerics that I group with that their contribution is the most
important of all, even though it looks as though they're just sitting on
their butts. :)
Regards,
Llewellen Iowerth
-----Original Message-----
From: Perhaps a Princess... [mailto:
sarah@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 12:47 PM
To:
EQ-Clerics@onelist.com
Subject: RE: [EQ-Clerics] Why do so many clerics think they're wizards?
From: "Perhaps a Princess..." <
sarah@...>
I don't know about soloing clerics, exactly. But I do know that I
play AGAINST solo clerics (Ie the orcs, etc that one runs into in
Oasis. These are effectively solo critters) The NPCs, when soloing,
do a LOT of nuking. So I think maybe that is what the nukes are
for!
But I do know about playing caster types that can't melee well (druid
and
enchanter)
It is not just frustrating to sit and med through a fight. It can also
get
to the point where you don't feel you are contributing to the group. It
might be useful to remind a cleric that feels they need to melee/nuke
every
fight they aren't directly healing that it is okay to sit out a fight,
med
ALL
the way through, and not fight at all. Even if they are not needed for
healing.
(We tend to pull blue meleers that my monk friend can handle all on her
own when I'm low on mana. Then I can sit and med throughout. But it
still
feels a little odd. As if I'm not doing my "part" -- It can be easy, at
level
18, to think I should still be meleeing. I haven't gotten to the part of
my life where I'm not effective yet. (And indeed, my AC is about the
same as
the monk's.
But she clearly does much more damage than I)
Anyway, you might want to humor your insecure clerics and such. let them
know that
they are STILL contributing even if they don't do ANYTHING in a
particular
battle.
Or maybe even a series of battles (if you're fighting a lot of blues.
Then
this
could even be possible) The cleric is still buffing, and being there,
ready
to
heal, and cure poison/disease if you happen to get hit by one of those.
And...
Faerain, level 18 Soldier of Tunare, Solusek Ro, Phoenix
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rose [mailto:rliu@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:25 AM
>To: EQ-Clerics@onelist.com
>Subject: RE: [EQ-Clerics] Why do so many clerics think they're wizards?
>
>
>From: "Rose" <rliu@...>
>
>Hmm well since you are using my post as a stepping ladder to your
>rant...lemme just first clarify to you that I know what a cleric's main
>function in the group is. Trust me. Everyone loves me as a cleric. My
>first char on this game is a ranger, and I got her up to lvl
>40....so I know
>what battles are like in tight situation. I KNOW what it is like when a
>cleric/healer does not heal...and one that runs around screaming and wont
>stand still for u to taunt the mob off...or one that runs to zone
>as soon as
>he/she starts to get hit...or one who thinks that nuking is better then
>healing. I know these thing. I am not one of those clerics. The best way
>to know how to play a cleric is to first play the opposite...a
>tank that can
>not heal or heal well...you would know what is expected in a cleric...or
>what you think would make the best cleric.
>
>As to my question about cleric soloing...it isnt because I think Im a
>wizard. Hell, I know I am not even close in nuking power compare to all
>other nukers. The reason why I asked was due to the fact that I just
>changed server and I would like to restart a cleric character...but I want
>to catch up to my friends. It is as simple as that...just to let you know
>that my post was not the best springboard that leads to yours. Since I was
>really referring to a "solo" situation and you are really talking about a
>"group" situation. I mean, who cares if the cleric nukes if he/she is
>soloing? No one is going to get hurt except for the cleric.
>
>All protestation aside. I have group with other clerics before who do
>exactly what you said you hate about them. Yes, it is a low lvl
>thing...and
>I tend to tell them that they need to sit their butt down, med, and watch
>the health bars, and for god sake dont let that health drops below
>50%...esp
>for casters. So I think if you want to help the general well being of your
>server...you should take the time and just tell these inexperience clerics
>what their main duty is in the group...you never know, they might become
>your regular cleric...and won't you rather have one who you know you can
>trust?
>
>
>-Imogen
>
>
>> Hi all :)
>>
>> I've played clerics in the past, and when I was grouped, I knew my job,
>> and did it very well. I buffed the tanks before battle, watched their
>> health bars carefully during battle, and (at levels before 25) engaged
>> in a bit of melee if things were going well. No one had to ask me for a
>> heal. I mean, come on. When you go to the doctor, should it be necesary
>> for you to ask him to heal you? Hell, no. That's his job, for pete's
>> sake.
>>
>> Anyway, I have recently been playing a barbarian warrior, because I knew
>> that I wanted to continue to melee, which would be a no-no for my cleric
>> at higher levels. Now, however, I'm finding it very difficult to find
>> good clerics to group with. My warrior is level 19 now, and I can
>> honestly say that I've yet to find a cleric who knows what the hell he's
>> supposed to do in a group. Is this just a problem with lower level
>> clerics? I certainly hope so, because if I EVER see a cleric not buffing
>> or healing in my groups at higher levels, I'll kick that person out of
>> my group faster than you can say "Bob's your uncle!" I won't even bother
>> to try explaining to them what they're supposed to do, because by that
>> time, they will have already perfected their bad habits. And I have made
>> it my solemn duty to NOT get myself or my group killed because of
>> someone else's arrogant stupidity/ignorance.
>>
>> That being said, I want to ask a question. Why are there (seemingly) so
>> many clerics out there who nuke? For pete's sake! There's a pefectly
>> good nuking class--wizard! Why didn't they choose that class?
>>
>> I remember when I first got smite, I wanted to show everyone how
>> powerful I was. But I quickly got over it, because people much preferred
>> my healing and buffing capabilities over a smite or two during battle.
>>
>> It just irritates the hell out of me when I have to fight side by side
>> with a cleric who's at full health and who won't get beat on because he
>> can't melee worth a damn AND he won't heal me, even when I'm down to my
>> last bubble of health. GRRR!
>>
>> Anyway, thanks for reading my--somewhat--rant on clerics. If you have
>> any advice for me to give these people, I'd be happy to hear it. Any
>> time I've tried to offer them advice, they've either ignored me, or gave
>> me some lame reason why they do what they do. Sigh.
>>
>> Maybe I should resurrect my clerics....
>>
>> Llewellen Iowerth
>> Karana server
>>
>> Just curious...any clerics here solo (or come close to it) to lvl 50?
>>
>> Is there a good website that tells you how to do the cleric armor quest?
>> Like the loc of the items. On a scale of 1-10 (1 being easy and 10
>> being
>> hard.) What do you rank the cleric quest to be?
>
>>