I have a feeling the way skill lvls for trades is set up, it may be exactly like ones level, complete with hell levels. I haven't raised my tinkering skill very high yet, but with my primary character, I have my fletching skill to 135 currently. During that time, I noticed that the level or two right before the trivial point of what I was working on would take a disproportionately high number of attempts to gain, and my success rate would be extremely low. Often just after trivializing something I would see fairly good success rates and skill increase on the next level of product. Perhaps this was a fluke with my observations, but maybe it explains some of the success ratios and maddeningly expensive skill point gains. Another thing I have noticed, which may be just my luck, is I seem to have a better success ratio and skill gain if my wisdom is higher than my int, regardless of how high they are. Higher int does seem to help skill gain to a good degree, but it really seemed that if I got my int higher than my wis, the skill gain would slow a bit, and my success ratio would go way down. Just some of my observations, take em with a grain of salt.

Jeremy Wells

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From: Madgrizzle [mailto:MadGrizzle@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 4:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [EQ_Tinkering] Success / Failure ratios

From: Madgrizzle <MadGrizzle@...>

I think it has to do with the skill level you are at. I suspect there may be 'hell' levels you have to work through. I recently started to tinker with my character. I made flameless lanterns all the way to 68, then switched to cams. I did 8 at a time with the cams. The first batch, I was 6 for 8. The next batch, I was 8 for 8. I was at skill 74 after that (75 is trivial). I then went 1 for 6 getting that last point. I've begun making stalking probes since they are cheaper to make than the spyglasses. I don't have firm stats on it, but I did 50% for about 10, then went on a 1 for 6 streak, then back to 50% again for the next 4. I suspect there may be some sticking points you have to work through (for example, skill level of 73 might bring more successes than 74). I know it seems odd, but its either that, or I had a run of bad luck. BTW, nothing changed during any of the attempts, 109 wisdom, 140 intelligence. Atiny of Bristlebane 16th Enchanter ~80 tinkering ;) At 02:12 PM 3/14/00 -0800, you wrote: >From: Jeff Price <jeffreyjprice@...> > >Out of my first 2 attempts I manufactured 2. >Out of my next 8 attemps I manufactured NONE! > >And here I thought I was just a stupid warrior! (106 >int/80 wis or so)! > >Up until aqualungs I was making a pretty dandy profit >with spyglasses and the occasional bow cam or stalking >probe made to order. > >Oh well.... > >-alewuf shinkicker of povar >40th gemchopper >102 tinkering