Well, you're still in luck from 125 up (don't know the trivial point) you
can make catapults.

1 Shaped Ashwood Recurve Bow ------26.0pp
1 Gears ---------------------------------------------7.4pp
1 Metal Twine ------------------------------------1.0pp
1 Sprockets ---------------------------------------7.4pp
1 Firewater -----------------------------------------0.1gp

Also about 42 plat per attempt, also sells back for 38pp

The Bow is made through Fletching Skill
1 Ashwood Bowstave
1 Plane
1 Hemp String (N.B. String is important, it won't work if the bow is made
with Linen or Silk)

I started these at 122 and got to 125 without them being trivial. I
haven't gone beyond that yet.

The resulting Catapult weighs 0.1, equips in the offhand slot, and is
useable by All/All. Having said that, I have no idea what it does. Doesn't
seem to be a weapon or give any benefits. If anyone figures it out, I'd be
happy to hear it :)

Calbasil Psyrex of Ak'anon (Terris-Thule)
44th Level Enchanter
House of Silmindo

At 06:58 PM 9/18/00 , you wrote:

>
>1 steel lined gloves.....26pp
>1 sprockets.............. 7pp
>1 gears.................. 7pp
>1 metal twine............ 1pp
>1 firewater.............. 1gp
>
>Looks to be about 41 plat per attempt, which is a TON
>better than the 225 per attempt previously thought to
>be the lowest needed to increase in skill past 104.
>Too bad they trivialize at 122, I'm at 125, and I got
>there solely on Aqualungs and Rebreathers 8(
>
>/sigh, looks like all the new tinkers will get to
>advance to the low 120s for about 1/6 the cost that us
>veteran tinkers paid. I'm happy that they've closed
>the gap some, but I feel somewhat cheated in the deal.
>
>
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