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Message ID: 426
Date: Tue Aug 24 17:42:06 BST 1999
Author: Nick Emmerich
Subject: Re: My thoughts


Reading this, a thought occured to me. I wouldn't put it past Verant to have
made a way to make spyglasses without collapsible fishing poles. Then, they will
change that "bug" once collapsible fishing poles can be made by players. If this
is true, the person selling spyglasses really can't tell us how to make
collapsible fishing poles because he doesn't know. He's just making
spyglasses... he could be lying about making collapsible fishing poles to throw
us off. I'm not saying somebody would do that, but he IS trying to keep a
monopoly on the market, and I can't say I blame him with the money he's making.
All I'm really trying to say is we're probably assuming too much. The brewers
went through something similar with bog juice awhile back. Nobody knew it and
EVERYBODY was trying to figure out the recipe. Once the recipe was found
(actually, it got posted by a GM), it was nothing like anybody had been trying.
People were using yeast, malt, hops, and barley in a drink that requires nothing
more than snake scales and water. Collapsible fishing poles, if they're possible
to begin with, could be made with a rod, a pine needle, and a gear for all we
know. Hell, for all we know, a rod, a pine needle, and a gear makes the
spyglass!

-Rennin of E'Ci
Trade Council GM

Aaron Bolch wrote:

> From: "Aaron Bolch" <aaronbolch@...>
>
> Thought #1:
>
> Before taking an extended break from Everquest to pursue a job, I spent
> nearly 150 pp making flameless lanterns and my skill remained "Below
> Average". I was told by a GM that tinkering is one of the hardest skills to
> train, so perhaps I am either unlucky, or the skill is nearly impossible to
> train up now.
>
> Fact #1:
>
> You cannot train tinkering using skill points. I have tried it. It is just
> like other trade skills, in that you can only use training points to get it
> so far before you must actually use the skill to learn it.
>
> Thought #2:
>
> If the collapsible fishing pole was in a shop, it would have been found long
> ago. Of course, if it was only added in recently, then it may have yet to
> be found. In any case, it still doesn't solve the problem of not having the
> recipe to make them.
>
> Thought #3:
>
> The collapsible fishing pole recipe should be fairly cheap to make. I
> really doubt that Verant made it difficult, considering it is a component
> for another item. So, this should limit the parts to those costing 1 pp or
> less, with the total cost not exceeding 5 pp.
>
> Thought #4:
>
> Whoever assumed that the spyglasses were being sold for 50% over cost is
> assuming way too much. If you are the only producer of an item, you can
> demand a much higher profit return on that item.
>
> Thought #5:
>
> There is no such thing as a "secret" on Everquest. There are too many
> people playing the game, making any new discovery part of the common
> knowledge base within a few weeks.
>
> Thought #6:
>
> Seeing "broken" quests, items, and spells in the past, I wouldn't put it
> past Verant that the collapsible fishing pole recipe isn't really in the
> game. I am merely speculating, but I find it rather hard to believe that
> after months of uptime, not one gnome has found the recipe to such a trivial
> item as the collapsible fishing pole.
>
> Thought #7:
>
> This is perhaps the most overriding aspect of this whole ridiculous thread
> about the collapsible fishing pole recipe. There are literally hundreds of
> items that could be used as a component, and it doesn't necessarily have to
> make any sense whatsoever. Trying to guess it blindly is just like playing
> the lottery. You might get lucky, but we don't have the hundreds of
> thousands of players needed to insure that SOMEONE gets lucky.
>
> Phenglei of Erollisi Marr
>
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