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----- Original Message -----
From: SteelWolf <steelwolf@...>
To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Bard sit in or Mana Song walkout or whatever (long,
possibly rant ish)

> From: SteelWolf <steelwolf@...>
>
> I find this uninformed. We are perhaps the most versatile class in the
> game. People that can find nothing but faults in their class make me
> think one thought - you are playing the wrong class. We have so many
> ways at our disposal to do almost anything, it's truely terrifying.
>
> Dodge is capped at 125 for a reason - a bard is not a tank. This is also
> why we don't get bash, parry, or double attack. When dodge caps at L24
> you already should have begun occupying roles in your party other than
> tank. Just look at how a bard solo's in the 40+ range to see how true
> this is. Do you tank a blue or higher monster to kill it? of course not.
> You use charm or chains and fear as two possible options.

Of course, even if you are not the tank, songs move you up on the agro list
*every* time they pulse.
So, not a tank, just a punching bag. With no way of defending ourselves.
BTW, I'm only 20th, but i've observed this quite a bit.
>
> If you aren't able to effective employ Lullaby, or it seems ineffectual,
> ask constructively how others use it in this forum. Personally when I
> solo, if there is any chance I'll fight a caster, Lullaby is memm'd. It
> may very well be mem'd while I am grouped as well. There is nothing like
> repeatedly interrupting a jin frogluk shaman attempting to cast heal to
> make your group immediately value your presence.
umm...how about :
mob nods, mob smacks the crap out of you.
mob nods, mob stuns you.
start lullaby
mob nods, mob smacks the crap out of you.

While fighting, solo, either melee or caster, in the Karanas and Lake Rathe
area, at level 19th, and 20th, I NEVER saw a mob interrupted in the least by
this song. How can I ask a constructive question about how I might better
use it when it does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except make me superagro to the mob?
This song is so completely useless at 20th, that I have unmemmed it. It
only get's me killed, does not interrupt either melee or casters. The song,
IMO, is COMPLETELY BROKEN now.

> Pixie chase not useful?
> i've watched a bard hold a bok ghoul knight in place for 2 minutes while
> the other 5 in the group fought and killed a second bok and the ghoul
> lord. Many of our songs at the level we get them are very weak, but
> unlike most classes, whose spells have damage caps, our songs continue
> to increase in power without limit. A L50 Bard is truely one of the most
> formidable and broad-spectrumed options to play.

Wouldn't know - been playing since day two of release, and am still only
20th level. I guess I'm sorry I didn't try to powerlevel up, so I could
have actually used some of the songs before they nerfed them to uselessness.
Of course, they seem to have fixed others, so maybe I still have something
to look forward to.

>
> Ariell Thunderwolf, Karana
>
> P.S. The ill-effect on bards produced by levitation was reported as a
> bug, it will be corrected next patch.
>
>
> <big snip>
>

MacGrough
20th Song Bard
Solusek Ro Wanderers