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Message ID: 11179
Date: Sat Dec 4 04:14:52 GMT 1999
Author: Dark
Subject: Re: Bard sit in or Mana Song walkout or whatever (long, possibly rant ish)
>From: "Donny Dane" <ddane@...>by
>
>See Comments Below:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: SteelWolf <steelwolf@...>
>To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
>Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 7:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [eqbards] Bard sit in or Mana Song walkout or whatever (long,
>possibly rant ish)
>
>
>> From: SteelWolf <steelwolf@...>
>>
>> I find this uninformed. We are perhaps the most versatile class in the
>> game. People that can find nothing but faults in their class make me
>> think one thought - you are playing the wrong class. We have so many
>> ways at our disposal to do almost anything, it's truely terrifying.
>>
>> Dodge is capped at 125 for a reason - a bard is not a tank. This is also
>> why we don't get bash, parry, or double attack. When dodge caps at L24
>> you already should have begun occupying roles in your party other than
>> tank. Just look at how a bard solo's in the 40+ range to see how true
>> this is. Do you tank a blue or higher monster to kill it? of course not.
>> You use charm or chains and fear as two possible options.
>
>Of course, even if you are not the tank, songs move you up on the agro list
>*every* time they pulse.
>So, not a tank, just a punching bag. With no way of defending ourselves.
>BTW, I'm only 20th, but i've observed this quite a bit.
>>
>> If you aren't able to effective employ Lullaby, or it seems ineffectual,
>> ask constructively how others use it in this forum. Personally when I
>> solo, if there is any chance I'll fight a caster, Lullaby is memm'd. It
>> may very well be mem'd while I am grouped as well. There is nothing like
>> repeatedly interrupting a jin frogluk shaman attempting to cast heal to
>> make your group immediately value your presence.
>umm...how about :
>mob nods, mob smacks the crap out of you.
>mob nods, mob stuns you.
>start lullaby
>mob nods, mob smacks the crap out of you.
>
>While fighting, solo, either melee or caster, in the Karanas and Lake Rathe
>area, at level 19th, and 20th, I NEVER saw a mob interrupted in the least
>this song. How can I ask a constructive question about how I might bettersong,
>use it when it does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except make me superagro to the mob?
>This song is so completely useless at 20th, that I have unmemmed it. It
>only get's me killed, does not interrupt either melee or casters. The
>IMO, is COMPLETELY BROKEN now.uselessness.
>
>> Pixie chase not useful?
>> i've watched a bard hold a bok ghoul knight in place for 2 minutes while
>> the other 5 in the group fought and killed a second bok and the ghoul
>> lord. Many of our songs at the level we get them are very weak, but
>> unlike most classes, whose spells have damage caps, our songs continue
>> to increase in power without limit. A L50 Bard is truely one of the most
>> formidable and broad-spectrumed options to play.
>
>Wouldn't know - been playing since day two of release, and am still only
>20th level. I guess I'm sorry I didn't try to powerlevel up, so I could
>have actually used some of the songs before they nerfed them to
>Of course, they seem to have fixed others, so maybe I still have somethingwith the subject submissions.
>to look forward to.
>
>>
>> Ariell Thunderwolf, Karana
>>
>> P.S. The ill-effect on bards produced by levitation was reported as a
>> bug, it will be corrected next patch.
>>
>>
>> <big snip>
>>
>
>MacGrough
>20th Song Bard
>Solusek Ro Wanderers
>
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