Just a few comments on the message from SteelWolf. See below.
----- Original Message -----
From: "SteelWolf" <steelwolf@...>
To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Bard sit in or Mana Song walkout or whatever (long,
possibly rant ish)
> From: SteelWolf <steelwolf@...>
>
> I find this uninformed. We are perhaps the most versatile class in the
> game. People that can find nothing but faults in their class make me
> think one thought - you are playing the wrong class. We have so many
> ways at our disposal to do almost anything, it's truely terrifying.
I find using deliberatly flame invoking commentary followed by strongly held
and uncompromising opinion to be more uninformed then the flame invoking
comment uninformed. In other words a polite hint to the art of flameless
debate don't call someone who disagrees with you uninformed.
Speaking of one who has ONLY one active character since day one of release
who happens to be a bard and who has taught many bards how to be bards, I
find our class to have several CRITICAL problems that make it less the fun
to play at times. Does that mean I find nothing but faults in my class? No
does it mean you are letting your opinion close you off to what others are
trying to say? Yes. The fact that using bard song in any area that has and
upper or lower level can result in instant death by huge uperpowered train
alone is woth the cost of complaint, now does this warrent the action our
estimied brother suggests is a matter to discuss. You apparently disagree
with him fair enough.
> Dodge is capped at 125 for a reason - a bard is not a tank. This is also
> why we don't get bash, parry, or double attack. When dodge caps at L24
> you already should have begun occupying roles in your party other than
> tank. Just look at how a bard solo's in the 40+ range to see how true
> this is. Do you tank a blue or higher monster to kill it? of course not.
> You use charm or chains and fear as two possible options.
>
> If you aren't able to effective employ Lullaby, or it seems ineffectual,
> ask constructively how others use it in this forum. Personally when I
> solo, if there is any chance I'll fight a caster, Lullaby is memm'd. It
> may very well be mem'd while I am grouped as well. There is nothing like
> repeatedly interrupting a jin frogluk shaman attempting to cast heal to
> make your group immediately value your presence. Pixie chase not useful?
> i've watched a bard hold a bok ghoul knight in place for 2 minutes while
> the other 5 in the group fought and killed a second bok and the ghoul
> lord. Many of our songs at the level we get them are very weak, but
> unlike most classes, whose spells have damage caps, our songs continue
> to increase in power without limit. A L50 Bard is truely one of the most
> formidable and broad-spectrumed options to play.
>
> Ariell Thunderwolf, Karana
Well that's fine and good. At level 21 however that doesn't cut it, and I
have watched some of the best bards on the povar server curse the failure
rate of the self same songs lately and etc etc etc. This has worked for you
I appreciate that.. but it seems a growing number of bards do not agree with
you perhaps you might want to listen to what the bards who disagree have to
say before deciding none of them deserve to sing?
Adon Povar
> P.S. The ill-effect on bards produced by levitation was reported as a
> bug, it will be corrected next patch.
>
>
> > Is there any interest among those on this list in an organized protest
of
> > our class' mistreatment by Verant? How many songs must become bugged,
how
> > many times must we be nerfed, how much longer must we stand under the
> > oppressive weight of the man... Ooops, sorry got carried away there.
But
> > seriously, we have several unimplemented songs (you all know the
numbers),
> > several songs which suffer from bugs that render them of limited value
> > (Lullaby, Pixie Strike), and several other abilities which are either
capped
> > too low (Dodge at least) or outright have no value (Find Traps at the
least)
> > that we deserve attention.
> <big snip>
>
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