> I hate to say this but Invis to undead is pointless. Sonorious

Clouding -IS- invisibility to live or Undead with modification to level. I
have at level 22 walked completely unmolested though Unrest mansion with it
active. As soon as I dropped it I was attacked. I have walked through
befallen with the same results. I have no doubt that our clouding is a
universal invisability and was intended as one, there for we do not need
invis vs undead. I think the problem is that many of you who have had
troubles with this either had bad parties that broke the invis (wandered out
of range, attacked, cast looted) at which point you also become visiable, or
are trying to hide from undead levels much higher then you where it I guess
resisted the song. I personally would like to see a true mem blur song..
except GZ and crew are more worried about enchanters and balancing us to be
lesser the ever present curse of jack of all trades master of none motief,
then the actual usefulness of bards.

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> Adon Draigcanwyr 23 chorus of Povar
> Child of Cathar.
>

I don't buy into the theory that mobs get a saving throw to detect
invisibility. If they can see invis, they see invis. If they can't, and
you're wearing it, you're invis. I've walked unmolested thru the toes of
Ice Giants in Permafrost to recover a friends corpse at level 27. I've also
been seen (unknowingly) and drew a train of undead to the Blood Pool in
Unrest around the same level (can't think of any mob in the path that was
major red to me). I was the ONLY one in my group, and I assure you that I
did nothing to break invis. There may be some invis to undead aspect to our
songs, but it's not because the mob gets a saving throw.

Darkfox Reven'tsol
Xegony