We had this discussion a few months ago about our invis song working against
undead. At the time, I was around 24th level. I remember it well because I
was in Unrest at the time we had the discussion. At 24th level, I could
walk around the outside and first floor of Unrest fairly safely. About the
only thing that could see thru the invis was a carrion ghoul or higher. I
left Unrest and didn't go back until I was 30th level. Last week I went all
the way to the ghost room without getting attacked. Along the way I passed
a dark terror, werebat, barbed bone skele and festering hag. Don't think
the first two are considered undead but the last two are for certain. I
know for certain the barbed and festering hag conned indifferent to me,
indicating they didn't see thru the invis song. Of particular note is that
the barbed conned blue to me while the hag was even. When I was 24th level,
these two were both higher level than me and definately saw thru invis. IMO,
I think bard invis working against undead, at least the ones in Unrest, is a
factor of both your level and randomness.
If Verant decided to give us universal invis to undead somewhere down the
road, to me the solution is simple. Make it where the invis song, when
equipping a magical flute, works against undead. Of course this would
require them to add a magical flute into the game other than those dropped
by gods.
Galtin of E'ci
> > I hate to say this but Invis to undead is pointless. Sonorious
> Clouding -IS- invisibility to live or Undead with modification to level.
> I
> have at level 22 walked completely unmolested though Unrest mansion with
> it
> active. As soon as I dropped it I was attacked. I have walked through
> befallen with the same results. I have no doubt that our clouding is a
> universal invisability and was intended as one, there for we do not need
> invis vs undead. I think the problem is that many of you who have had
> troubles with this either had bad parties that broke the invis (wandered
> out
> of range, attacked, cast looted) at which point you also become visiable,
> or
> are trying to hide from undead levels much higher then you where it I
> guess
> resisted the song. I personally would like to see a true mem blur song..
> except GZ and crew are more worried about enchanters and balancing us to
> be
> lesser the ever present curse of jack of all trades master of none motief,
> then the actual usefulness of bards.
> >
> > Adon Draigcanwyr 23 chorus of Povar
> > Child of Cathar.
> >
>
> I don't buy into the theory that mobs get a saving throw to detect
> invisibility. If they can see invis, they see invis. If they can't, and
> you're wearing it, you're invis. I've walked unmolested thru the toes of
> Ice Giants in Permafrost to recover a friends corpse at level 27. I've
> also
> been seen (unknowingly) and drew a train of undead to the Blood Pool in
> Unrest around the same level (can't think of any mob in the path that was
> major red to me). I was the ONLY one in my group, and I assure you that I
> did nothing to break invis. There may be some invis to undead aspect to
> our
> songs, but it's not because the mob gets a saving throw.
>
>