Lol your kidding right? Overcrowding isn't a problem? It's not a problem
with 3 planes are being done and both dragons yet we still have 80+ in guk
and sol b? all quests are basiclaly messed up but it's not causing huge
problems like overcrowing. Lol heh check again I thin kyour thinking of guk
not lower guk because on E'ci it's camped 24/7. As for quest at high levels
it's the same thing as camping only you camp two diffrent spawns. I've got a
21 shaman who has been doing quite fine in East Karana a under populated
zone. Sol A is quite doable at 21-24 and is actually a good zone to hunt in.
Upper Guk is often empty on E'ci so check there. Lower guk is another story
and arey ou use you didn't zone in and do a who on guk instead of going
through guk into lower guk? Fact of the matter is I've found places that
are baren where I can hunt in even during prime time on mid level chars. Try
doing that as a high level.
Naeeldar
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimes, Dean W. <
Dean_Kimes@...>
To: '
eqbards@onelist.com' <
eqbards@onelist.com>
Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>
>Ok, that's not a problem. First, they haven't successfully implemented any
>new quests a 21st level bard can do in a very long time. I've tried a
>couple they did add to see if they might be viable, but both were broken so
>I couldn't even find out if they were of an appropriate level for me. I've
>done every other quest, or gotten as far as I could in them, that I might
be
>able to do.
>On the area of zones. Yes, I can hunt on reaver hill. Mistmoore is too
>deadly for me as higher levels train things out of the castle too
frequently
>to make the entry area safe. Unrest is packed, last three times I was
there
>there were 50+ people in them. Sol A and Sol B are obviously beyond my
>groups ability at 21-24. Haven't tried Paw since they lowered the
>difficulty but there was no way before. Befallen is also fairly crowded
and
>most everything there is too low to give me much xp anyhow. Tried hunting
>skeletons in rathe but there were too many groups there as well. Went to S
>Karana but there were 75+ people there mostly hunting aviaks. Maybe there
>are some other places I have not found yet, but since I play mostly in mst
>prime-time I unfortunately have to play at the most crowded time. Guess
>what? So does everyone else who is a 2-3 hr a day, 3-4 day a week player
>like me. Also most of them are between 18-33 level or so. That means that
>the times I can play are most crowded for the level I am. A lot of times
>when I am on there is no one in Kithicor and I have seen as few as 12 in
>Lower Guk. I guess a lot of the higher level players on E'ci play later
>than I do maybe. I went into L Guk a month ago and there were 6 players at
>7pm, but at midnite when I logged off there were 35. I don't think
crowding
>is limited to level 46+, but since so much xp is required at that level
>range, any overcrowding is painful. Also it would be easier if I was
>playing a class with downtime. When I play y enchanter or druid the
>crowding seldom bothers me as I spend enough time medding that its not as
>big a deal. The group my bard plays with though has so little downtime
that
>we waste a lot of time when we are fully capable of knocking something off,
>only there isn't anything available. That frustration has cost me more
>guildmates than I care to think about.
>Its really frustrating hearing about all the new quests on the plane of sky
>when quests are my favorite part of the game. Lame as many of them are
they
>are still more fun than camping.
>
>Just my 2cp,
>
> Kit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Naeeldar [mailto:jackal@...]
>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:37 AM
>To: eqbards@onelist.com
>Subject: Re: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>
>
>From: "Naeeldar" <jackal@...>
>
>I know but believe me what do you low levels need a change of pace? You
have
>multiple dungeons. I don't care for a change of pace all I want is to be
>less crowded and they can change that with more zones. You guys have so
many
>options of zone that it's not even funny but lets say for 46+ we have the 3
>planes now and sol b and guk. But wait there are people 30+ in guk and sol
>b. So all we really have is 3 zones. Now for 30ish people you have a
variety
>of outdoor zones, for dungeons you have permafrost, CT, Unrest, MM, Sol A,
>Guk, Lower Guk, Sol B. See the problem? I play a mid level char a 50 char
>and a low level char and there are no problems with the low or mid levle
>chars. High level chars there is a problem though. It's not like were
>complaining we need a change of pace we want something new for the hell of
>it we don't but you are. Seriously what problems do you have at mid or low
>levels? Not many high levels are plagued with overcrowded. Hell I love the
>lower guk zone and I'd be happy if they just duplicated the zone a bunch of
>times. Seriously though how about you list me a couple of problems you low
>mid levels have.
>
>Naeeldar
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kimes, Dean W. <Dean_Kimes@...>
>To: 'eqbards@onelist.com' <eqbards@onelist.com>
>Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 12:13 PM
>Subject: RE: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>
>
>>From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>>
>>Actually I think Verant is missing the point there. They will never be
>able
>>to do enough to keep up with the level 50 players unless they totally
>ignore
>>the lower level players. The majority of the level 50 players play the
>game
>>far too much for Verant to be able to keep up wit providing them new
stuff.
>>Although those players play the game more they don't pay any more than the
>>lower level players. I have lost close to 20 guild members just in my
>guild
>>because they were tired of Verant only doing things for level 46+ players.
>>Eventually at this rate Verant will only have those level 46+ players
left.
>>
>> Kit
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dark [mailto:jackal@...]
>>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 9:58 PM
>>To: eqbards@onelist.com
>>Subject: Re: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>>
>>
>>From: "Dark" <jackal@...>
>>
>>Actually you get to play a new class so not boring. They have to fix
>>overcrowding with high levels first and their is no reason they should
>>bother with anything else until that happens otherwise Verant will lose a
>>good percentage of their customers.
>>
>>Naeeldar
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
>>To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
>>Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 5:48 PM
>>Subject: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>>
>>
>>>From: "Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4" <g4mntofcr@...>
>>>
>>>I think I stated pretty clearly in my original post that I'm glad Verant
>is
>>>giving the high level characters something to do. This might keep you
>guys
>>>busy until expansion.
>>>
>>>My points about neglecting 46- level characters is still valid however.
>>>Since this game has been out, players have consistently begged Verant to
>>add
>>>more quality quests to the game. With the exception of the class armor
>>>quests, most of the other quests for low and medium level characters flat
>>>out suck and aren't worth the time and effort. Is it too much to expect
>>>that as the game evolves over time, Verant will make improvements to all
>>>aspects of the game? You yourself stated the 50 level players are bored
>so
>>>thats why they start twink characters. It sure would be nice if those
>>>twinks had something different to look forward to (new items and quests).
>>>As it stands now, all they get to do is the stuff their 50th level
>>character
>>>has probably already done countless times over. How boring.
>>>
>>>Galtin of E'ci
>>>
>>>> One thing what do you think us 46+ players had to play with? Guess what
>>>> you
>>>> low levels are having a ton more fun then us high levles why do you
>think
>>>> so
>>>> many of us twink? They have to do something about high levels because
>>they
>>>> are the most unhappy there are only two zones excluding planes that
>>people
>>>> do sol b and guk. DO you have any clue how crowded it is? We were doing
>>>> bothg planes and both dragons at the same time on E'ci and guess what
>>>> there
>>>> is still 80+ people in guk and sol b. This is a major problem and they
>>>> need
>>>> to fix the problem not add stuff for low levels who are just
complaining
>>>> that they don't get anything new added. Perosnally I could care less if
>>>> they
>>>> didn't add anything new for me but I do care that it's crowded as hell
>>>> for
>>>> high levels.
>>>>
>>>> Naeeldar
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
>>>> To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
>>>> Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 4:48 PM
>>>> Subject: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From: "Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4" <g4mntofcr@...>
>>>> >
>>>> >Someone posted a link on the new Concert Hall message board of the new
>>>> bard
>>>> >quests on the PoA. There are six bard quests and each quest requires
>>you
>>>> to
>>>> >obtain three items to get the reward.
>>>> >
>>>> >Abashi posted earlier that 200+ class specific items were included in
>>the
>>>> >new patch. It appears that most, if not all, of these 200+ items are
>>>> >related to the PoA quests. Each class gets six quests. Thats 84 new
>>>> items.
>>>> >I only looked at the bard quests, but assuming all class quests
require
>>>> >three components, thats 252 quests components (84 x3). Some of the
>>quest
>>>> >used the same components so this number is probably a lot lower. Most
>>of
>>>> >the quest components were items I had never heard of so I don't know
if
>>>> they
>>>> >are dropped only in PoA or in other zones. I assume the 200+ class
>>>> specific
>>>> >items Abashi referred to were the 84 quest reward items and the 252+/-
>>>> quest
>>>> >components.
>>>> >
>>>> >Rant on:
>>>> >I have no problems with Verant adding more stuff for the 46+ players
to
>>>> do.
>>>> >That gets them out of the zone where I'm at. What I do have a concern
>>>> with
>>>> >is the apparent lack of attention given to players less than 46th
>level.
>>>> >With the exception of the class armor quests added a few months back
>and
>>>> new
>>>> >loot found in Paw, almost every new item/quest that has been recently
>>>> (past
>>>> >few months) added to the game is geared toward the 46+ player. I am
>not
>>>> >aware of any new items/quests added to the game geared toward medium
>>>> level
>>>> >characters. Perhaps my observation is subjective, but it seems to me
>>>> that
>>>> >Verant is focusing on keeping the 46+ characters happy at the expense
>of
>>>> the
>>>> >45- characters. Am I out of line thinking this way?
>>>> >
>>>> >Caveat: Its quite possible that the new PoA quest component items are
>>>> >usuable until they are traded in and obtainable in zones outside of
>PoA.
>>>> >Its also possible that these items are ideally suited for use by
medium
>>>> to
>>>> >high level characters. If this turns out to be true I'll eat my
words.
>>>> >
>>>> >Rant off
>>>> >
>>>> >Galtin of E'ci
>>>> >32 bard
>>>> >
>>>> >
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