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Message ID: 13887
Date: Thu Jan 27 21:53:39 GMT 2000
Author: Naeeldar
Subject: Re: PoA bard quests plus a rant


Heh once you level up a bit more you will find there pets becoming more and
more uselss. Level 20 is still a nice pet level 24 ok level 29 pretty good
only because of duel wield 34 sucks and 39 sucks to. 44 is decent and 49
becomes very good again. It's just a natural course and some classes have
weak spots in their life but the rewards are greater in the end. It sounds
like you want everybody to be able to do the same thing why not just have
one class and save yourself the trouble? Seriously necros get pretty weak in
the 33-43 period of their life. Most necros go through mid life crisis and
simply put that's a damn long time for a weak period added onto kos and
other crap like that and you have a long hard life with great rewards in the
end.

Naeeldar

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimes, Dean W. <Dean_Kimes@...>
To: 'eqbards@onelist.com' <eqbards@onelist.com>
Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant


>From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>
>Unfortunately I want ot role play a lot. Since I don't have much interest
>in rp'ing a necro or druid I picked according to what I wanted to rp, a
>bard. After 4 months I realized how little rp there is in this rpg.
>Evercamp is definitely a much truer name than Everquest. By the way,
>strangely we always liked the necro when he made it into our group. is
pets
>was way more useful than the enchanter's and his spells made it easier for
>us to concentrate and not chase stuff around than the wizard's. He worked
>pretty well in our group, not directly via buffs, but indirectly via the
>extra tank (pet) and the nice slow down doT's like Clinging darkness.
>
> Kit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Naeeldar [mailto:jackal@...]
>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 2:41 PM
>To: eqbards@onelist.com
>Subject: Re: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>
>
>From: "Naeeldar" <jackal@...>
>
>Fact of the matter is you should of picked a solo class then. It is a group
>orientated game and for the most part most classes can't get around that
>whenever they want. Hell most items I want at this level I still need
groups
>to do. Simply put the game is balanced for the way it was designed.
>
>Naeeldar
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kimes, Dean W. <Dean_Kimes@...>
>To: 'eqbards@onelist.com' <eqbards@onelist.com>
>Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:27 PM
>Subject: RE: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>
>
>>From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>>
>>Except that most of us have to have groups to survive. That means we have
>>to depend on others to be available, competent, and agreeable. This isn't
>>always feasible. Any class which can avoid this requirement has an
>enormous
>>advantage in that they can always fight on their terms. They are not
>>subject to the vagaries and whims of the other players out there. Believe
>>me all it takes is one stupid group member and the bard in the group is
>>likely toast. This may not be true from 25-35 or so from what John has
>>said, but it certainly has been my experience up to 22, and even John
>admits
>>he's starting to see the bard taunt factor again after 40 as being way out
>>of line. Of course probably when you're 40+ you don't have many pickup
>>groups. Playing 2-4 days a week and 2-4 hours each time, pickup groups
are
>>the mainstay of life. Or death as the case may be.
>>
>> Kit
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Naeeldar [mailto:jackal@...]
>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 2:20 PM
>>To: eqbards@onelist.com
>>Subject: Re: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>>
>>
>>From: "Naeeldar" <jackal@...>
>>
>>I guess that all depends what you considered balance. As it is most of you
>>powergamers avoided necros in groups until very high levels why because we
>>just don't have any good group spells until later on. Even the pets suck
>>during our mid level life. A melee class does it's job they are there to
>>keep mobs off the wizards and enchanters so they can cast there all
>powerful
>>spells. A cleric is there to keep eveyrbody healed and buff and so and so
>>on. This is a group oerientated game for the most part except for maybe
>>necros who are pretty bad in groups until late levels ( ie 44+ ). So in a
>>group oerientated game yes the game is pretty well balanced.
>>
>>Naeeldar
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kimes, Dean W. <Dean_Kimes@...>
>>To: 'eqbards@onelist.com' <eqbards@onelist.com>
>>Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 4:16 PM
>>Subject: RE: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>>
>>
>>>From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>>>
>>>Anyone else notice no one is mentioning anyone even remotely melee
>oriented
>>>in this? And they think the classes are balanced?
>>>
>>> Kit
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Naeeldar [mailto:jackal@...]
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 2:12 PM
>>>To: eqbards@onelist.com
>>>Subject: Re: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>>>
>>>
>>>From: "Naeeldar" <jackal@...>
>>>
>>>Necros are supposed to be overpowered :). Verant stated this before that
>>>necros would be a extremly powerful class in the end. BTW shamans can do
>>the
>>>same thing and they don't even have faction cuts or horribley hard to
find
>>>research spells. Even a enchanter who is smart can have little to no down
>>>time.
>>>
>>>Naeeldar
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Ken Bachman <kbachman@...>
>>>To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
>>>Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 2:09 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Ken Bachman <kbachman@...>
>>>>
>>>>Naeeldar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Naeeldar" <jackal@...>
>>>>>
>>>>> Again why ? I don't care about exp anymore. FYI if it supposts 3 full
>>>groups
>>>>> of 50's on your server then they are doing something wrong. I can pull
>>>and
>>>>> solo 1 sea fury non stop...
>>>>>
>>>>> Naeeldar
>>>>
>>>>Three groups of six 50s is too much, certainly, but it does support
three
>>>high
>>>>level groups. The fact that YOU can solo them non-stop simply suggests
>to
>>>me
>>>>(yet again, for the umpteenth time) that Necros are tremendously
>>unbalanced
>>>and
>>>>vastly overpowered.
>>>>
>>>>Kenross Cantorforjado, 40 songs, Innoruuk
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