On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Jeff Illian wrote:

>
> Now turn this same scenario into a dungeon crawl. You end up with mabye 5
> to 10 level 50's crawling through a place like Sol A killing everything that
> moves and all playing solo so that they can get their shot at the named
> spawn. Suddenly the overcrowding situation has just gotten 10 times worse.
> As for loot, there is a heck of a lot of level 30 loot that level 50's still
> wear (especially druids) and let's not even bring into this Item Farming for
> e-bay, Item Farming for platinum and Twinking...

Ok, now you're on a slightly different topic - reducing item
farming, rather than encouraging dungeon crawling. The ideas
we came up with to encourage dungeon crawling still work in
the above scenario - the L50s have to crawl rather than camp.
So I would say that these are orthogonal problems that can be
solved separately.

> > You do have to share the mobs with other groups. It's just
> > not obvious because it gets mixed into the time it takes your
> > puller to find something. If there are 20 people in a dungeon
> > with 100 mobs that respawn every 30 minutes, then that's 5
> > mobs per person per 30 minutes. Doesn't matter if you're
> > camping one spot or sweeping through.
>
> Where do you pull to? If the spawns are random, then suddenly there aren't
> any safe rooms to fight in or pull to. Also, have you ever pulled Kobolds

The special mob spawn locations are random, not necessarily
the other spawns. And what's the problem with not having "any
safe rooms to fight in or pull to" if you're trying to
discourage camping and encourage crawling? :)

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John H. Kim
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