> From: "Tim Burke" <tjohnburke@...>
> Subject: Re: Welp... it was me :)
>
> I dunno...
>
> Maybe the rest of youare just more MUCH more patient than me. I know
> your much better testers....
>
> As far as bards being ignored...
>
> one song per lvl, 50 lvls... if the songs there aren't 50 songs - then
> we aren't complete. And they have had 8 months to get them in. The
> priority should be to complete a class before offering more spells and
> weapons to others classes - and yes that means even the FA to paladins.
Everyone has their own priorities. Why should your priorities be any more
important than someone else's priorities?
Paladins are supposed to be able to wield the mightiest holy swords in the
game, including the Fiery Avenger. Brad loved to show off the FA in the
Beta, telling everyone how it was the "most powerful sword in the game" and
it was Paladin only. Imagine if you were a Paladin. You chose to be a
Paladin because you wanted to quest for the FA. Wouldn't you feel your
class was incomplete if the FA didn't exist?
Mages can summon a weapon every level. But Verant hasn't put the level 49
summon in the game yet. Only recently was the lvl 44 Summon Weapon spell
put into the game. Still no word on the 49th spell. Mages are also
incomplete, according to your own definition.
> The little things, like the enhancements that were implemented in the
> last patch, didn't get mentioned the patch message? What was up
> with the whole - it's in this patch, the next patch, coming soon,
> responses? Then the patch
> with the enhancements atcually happens, but they don't bother to mention
> anything - other than a change to solidarity of vision! What about the
> three weeks with no explanation given to bards? When other classes were
> addressed specifically. Again, it's a little thing, but it's about
> getting the same attention paid to us as the other classes.
Mages had pet healing spells added. or so the patch said. Some duplicate
Enchanter spell appeared on the vendor instead. "Database entry error" we
were told. Three patches and four weeks later, the spell is finally there.
Shaman had Alchemy bugged for 8 months before Verant could be convinced it
was broken.
Bards get about the same attention as every other class. There is no
hatred of Bards at Verant, just as there is no special Bard Hate coded in
the game.
Your problem is that you are only looking at it from your tiny little Bard
portal. There are hundreds of things broken or missing in EQ. Verant
tries to fix them, but they do a very poor job. You seem to not care about
anything but fixing your Bard. Verant has to fix problems with every
class. They can't stop everything just to fix Bards.
>
> As far as the enhancements that went in on the last patch. The see invis
> to clouding makes the song much more useful, and increased range on
> selo's is great. But did they do anything earth-shattering... no. Did
> they fix lullaby, increase dodge, implement parry, implement any mid-lvl
> instruments - no. They increased the range of 4 songs. Now maybe some
> of you can clue me in, but I have never actually used levitation for a
> group, or actually used tarews as the way to keep the group breathing
> under water. So unless I am missing something * a very likely
> possibility :) *- those two "enhancements" aren't much of anything.
Most bards complained that levitate and water breathing were useless in a
group partly because of the range problem. Many Bards asked that the range
be increased. I believe there was a bard petition to increase the range.
So they increased the range, and your not happy?
I think this guy said it best...
> > Abashi is absolutely right... They do get less rants when they nerf!
It seems to me that Verant has very little resource maintaining EQ. Most
everyone is working on the expansion or new projects. Only so much is
going to get done on each patch. This sucks for us, and we can either
complain loudly or find another game to play. But to insist that Verant
stops everything until you get your three missing songs (which Verant
promised would be in the expansion) is just selfish.
Wayne