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Message ID: 16113
Date: Wed Mar 15 02:22:54 GMT 2000
Author: Dave Karpman
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Kunark Expansion


Not to flame you or your guild, but they could not be more wrong about this.

Since they gave both dragons AE debuffs, no dragon raid on Brell will be
attempted without at least 2 bards. Several tanks won't raid a dragon
unless they are grouped with a bard.

You talk about nerfs, but they have not touched the songs used when raiding
dragons. A raid may still be successful without bards, but I guarantee you
there would be a lot of unnecessary deaths because some nimrod raid leader
decided to exclude bards.


At 05:57 PM 3/14/00 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "Kenneth E. Bachman" <kbachman@...>
>
>Yeah, as I said in my last message, this is just what some members of my
>guild are arguing for Dragon
>raids. No Bards. And even with six bards in the guild level 45 and up,
>we're having a hard time arguing
>the point. We're *supposed* to be the most powerful *grouping* class in
>the game, but our songs have been
>nerfed to the point where, even in a *full* group, someone else does it
>better. Have you seen the
>discussions on other boards where people are asked to list their ideal
>parties, or the player type they
>would choose to group with first? If we're the best grouping class, we
>should be way up on those lists,
>shouldn't we? Instead, most people out there don't even put bards down as
>an alternate for the sixth
>slot! I'm getting a complex.
>
>Kenross Cantoforjado, 45.8 songs, Innoruuk
>
>
>Ryan Honeyman wrote:
>
> > I don't feel we are keeping balanced with other classes, but
> > until we claim that - Verant will not see a problem. Everquest is
> > turning toward a cleric + warrior game, strategies/abilities/spells or
> > songs are really not meaningful in that scenario. When a group of
> > people hunting gods, dragons, etc can say 'We really don't need a bard
> > for this.', 'We need better tanks, and better healing, bards will just
> > lag us.', 'I would rather have a warrior with decent gear instead of a
> > bard.' - something is seriously wrong balance-wise.
>
>
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Dave Karpman davek@...
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