But you could make the argument the other way as well. If you can walk
unmolested through Unrest with clouding, then it is invis vs. undead.

Of course there are exceptions to both (GIBS vs. cleric invis, barbed and
lvl 5 skellies vs. bard invis)

Bien

> From: jhenders@...
>
> On Tue, Mar 21/00, firehawk@... wrote:
> > From: firehawk@...
> >
> > Actually I could go back and get my e-mail from the last great clouding
> debate where I did exactly that test the con and the result with invis on
> and invis off. What I tend to think people forget is the possibilty of
> see invis being part of some of these creatures.
> >
>
> It really seems to be semantics at this point. Ultimately, if you can
> run to the ghoul lord room unmolested with the cleric/enchanter invis to
> undead, but not with the bard song, then clouding is not really invis to
> undead.
>
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