On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 jhenders@... wrote:

>
> It really seems to be semantics at this point. Ultimately, if you can
> run to the ghoul lord room unmolested with the cleric/enchanter invis to
> undead, but not with the bard song, then clouding is not really invis to
> undead.

That's ignoring the level limitations on invis. If you try to
run to the ghoul lord room with a L20 cleric/enchanter's invis
to undead, you *will* be molested. Likewise, when a L22
enchanter friend tried to invis some folks for a trip out of
the shin lord room, the frogs outside immediately saw through
it. Does that make his invis not an invis? Don't think so.

--
John H. Kim
kim@...