> So you're basically having the bard waste an extra song slot
> (still need Chain in case something goes wrong with snare)
> because the ranger/druid is too lazy to wait for you to give
> the "Chain off" message?
>
> 100% deferral to snare is not the optimal solution.
Yes, in your fantastic analysis of my song line up, I suppose that is
exactly what I am doing, wasting a spot.
> But don't you see, that very same argument works against snare
> just as well as chain. If all it takes to deal with a runner
> is a nuke and a DoT, then it doesn't matter if you overwrite
> snare with chain.
You are out of context here. The nuke-DOT comment has nothing to do with
the snare/chain.
> On the one hand, you claim you almost never use chain,
> deferring to druid/ranger snarers and shaman/enchanter speed
> debuffers. On the other hand, you speak as if with expertise
> about how reliable chain is against high level mobs. Do you
> see the credibility problem here?
Credibility MY ASS! You really think I always have a druid or ranger in the
party? I can't tell you how many times I've been relegated to the role of
stopping runners. The only person who has any credibility in this
discussion is the one who has had to use chains as the parties ONLY means of
stopping runners AND has seen the other side with a druid or ranger doing
their job. If there is a credibility question perhaps it is you since you
always party with a druid... Try without one sometime. It gives you a whole
new perspective on chains. Sorry, I take huge offense when someone
questions my credibility. Are you trying to say that I make this stuff up?
Hmmm, perhaps because I'm 5 levels lower then you are I'm just stupid.
> And I've had it wear off immediately from a L2 beetle. It
> happens from time to time. 95% of the time in my experience,
> it works fine.
I'd like to see a log analysis here. In my experience its more liek 40% to
50%...
> Try the live side. Most people avoid the maze and noble/king
> area for some reason (probably so set into the camp mentality
> that having to run around confusing corridors is terrifying
> for them).
Live side on Prexus is just as camped as the dead side... Got about as much
chance getting to see the evil eye or crusader as you do getting in a lord
group.