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Message ID: 16679
Date: Thu Mar 23 10:01:04 GMT 2000
Author: John_Senior@mandg.co.uk
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Subject: Re: UPDATE 2 - we're getting there!


The reason I decided to make the song not stack with other haste
items/spells is to purely make it more appealing to Verant. We all know
that they hate us winning so I didn't want to overpower the song too much.
I think it would be good to stack with haste items however. The idea of my
song was to make the melee'ers fight at twice there normal speed (this
should include haste items I suppose).

So a warrior dual wielding Yaks with a haste sash would normally fight 15%
faster (Yak delay from 24 down to 20.4). Once the song is fired up it
would allow the melee'ers to fight at twice normal speed (yak delay with
sash = 20.4 / 2 = 10.2). Now thats a pretty awesome delay, imagine hitting
at twice the dmg also this would make a massive difference to the melee
side of a fight.

Ok, so we have Bob the warrior, with a delay of 10.2 for each Yak. He is
now also hitting at double normal dmg (my bard does 28-32 dmg max with his
Yak. So I would imagine Bob the warrior would do 30-40 dmg. Double this
allows Bob to hit for 60-80 dmg.

Now we have the overview, we can see the pure destructive power of this
song.

Bob now hits for 60-80 dmg with a delay on each weapon of 10.2 for the next
18 seconds. Sounds rather nasty, thats just 1 warrior, add a few more
melee'ers such as a ranger/paladin or monk <grin> and the bard of course
you are gonna get some serious dmg dealt. The fact it lasts 18 seconds is
because if it lasted any longer Verant would consider this too powerfull.
The fact that it can't be used for 5-10 minutes also means that a bard
can't use it in the same fight twice.

This is a song I felt really defined the bard class as what they are there
to do, it inspires fellow comrades to fight with almighty rage and courage.
Another thing that could be added to this song is a mana based element to
benefit casters also. Such as spells can be cast at 1/2 mana cost (think
this would be too powerful). Or prehaps half casting time for spells. Or if
not for this song use it as another song slot.

Madagan Songweaver, Bard of 41 Songs <Guardians of Light>
Veeshan Server




kim@... on 22/03/2000 22:33:24

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Subject: RE: [eqbards] Subject: Re: UPDATE 2 - we're getting there!




From: kim@...

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Kimes, Dean W. wrote:
>
> You're still using the song at that level for Haste effect? I was under
the
> impression Alacrity was a 40% speedup and that's available long before
that.
> I'm a little confused now. Aren't there already speedups that are nearly
> that good, just not bard speedups, that last for far longer than 18 secs?

IIRC, enchanter Alacrity was a 25% reduction in delay.
Enchanter Celerity was a 30% reduction in delay. Bard
Celerity was about a 15% reduction in delay, Beserkers was
about 17% at 48.

The speedups tend to be rather expensive for enchanters to
cast, and last about 5-10 minutes. Buffing four tanks with
SLTW wipes out a bit more than half a typical enchanter's mana
(takes about 2-3 minutes to get it back with their own
Clarity). Usually, most of them just stick with Augmentation
(15% reduction in delay) unless there's a big fight brewing.

And like I explained, the double damage portion of the
proposed song more than made up for the short duration IMHO.

--
John H. Kim
kim@...



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