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Message ID: 16677
Date: Thu Mar 23 00:20:20 GMT 2000
Author: Bill Mann
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Subject: Re: UPDATE 2 - we're getting there!


Well, they've restricted Levitate in PoS only, what's one more? ;o)

-=B=-
Stuck at 27
The Rathe
-----Original Message-----
From: Jada <JadaKost@...>
To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 8:56 AM
Subject: [eqbards] Subject: Re: UPDATE 2 - we're getting there!


>From: Jada <JadaKost@...>
>
>Ok changing around the TP song to non-zone members has
>a lot of merit. It would remove any "train" issues,
>but it does not remove PoS issues. Where does the
>group get teleported in? Next to the bard? What if I
>am on the third island? If the pop in at zoneline,
>then what zoneline? ie. SolB there are 4 or 5
>zonelines in there.
>
>You could basically restrict it from non-Plane zones,
>but I was really trying to go for a song that made us
>wanted during plane raids, almost needed in fact.
>Planes "can" be done without enchanters, but its A LOT
>tougher. I was looking for the same type of thing for
>bards. I dont want to be invided only to provide
>casters with mana. I want to be NEEDED. I want ohhs
>and ahhs when I do something no other class can do.
>
>The reason I came up with the removing hate list part
>was to stop trains, but I guess its no different than
>a binder aggroing a mob and gating back to bind point
>in the same zone. I never played a binding class so
>don't know how this works. Is the mob still very
>aggro to the caster? If so then we could have the "in
>zone" part of the song, but have the same problems
>when casters do the same type of thing. We would just
>have to make sure noone was aggro to anything and deal
>with the consequences if they are.
>
>I tend to look at specific instances, and if you bring
>in members from any zone in the game, you can bypass
>buying the stones for Plane of Hate and such. If its
>only "in zone" members a wizard still has to gate
>everyone in, but the bard can be sitting in Maestro's
>room and bring the party there without the party
>having to run around the zone and die a few times.
>Does this make a bard "needed" for raids? nope, but
>players wouldn't think twice about having you on
>raids.
>
>Again we could restrict the song from certain zones,
>but this is a real cheezy way of doing things and I
>want to be needed in EVERY zone. The only problem I
>see now is PoS, if it were just restricted in this ONE
>zone that is not a problem. I see no reason why Hate,
>Fear would need to be restricted. If they were I then
>Perma and SolB would be next.
>
>Jada of Povar
>0.1 bubbles from 50
>
>_____________________________________________________
>
>Ack! I got this in just as I mailed out my idea on a
>tp song (gathers group from anywhere in the game,
>EXCEPT the zone you're in)... lemme see if I can
>pretty it up.
>
>Bardo's Symphonic Gathering
>Instrument needed: Flute (especially so you don't sing
>it accidentally o)~ )
>Range: All zones but the one the singer is in.
>While not being a FULL teleport song, it would clearly
>add to a bard's usefulness without unbalanceing the
>class or a group. A member drop from your group? No
>big deal, send out your group leader to invite someone
>
>else to the group, then bring them back with this
>song. With the same-zone limitation, there is no
>chance of PoS abuse or threat of creating a train.
>Included would be a message box with yes or no answers
>similar to the
>ones that pop up on a rez.
>
>-=B=-
>
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