Hehe,

if you are going to compare bard vs ench to sha vs ench, compare all the
others too:

bard vs wiz in nuke
clr vs wiz in nuke
ranger vs wiz in nuke
war vs wiz in nuke

If you think that bards should be 67% as effective, should not everyone also
be 67% effective?

"Jack of all - master of none" does not equate to "almost as good" or
acceptable substitute or second best at or "67% as good as." Bards can do a
variety of things. Some better than others. Some lots worse. There are
examples of that in all classes.

"It makes me nauseated because a level 14 cleric can cast invis to undead
and bards can't" (well we can hope for level 39 song can't we?). That's
just me showing class envy. For whatever reason (design by Verant,
oversight by Verant), we cant do it.

I guess Verant gave us a taste of speed buff with our songs and that makes
us lust for more. At some point, we just need to accept what we are and go
out and kill stuff. It is good to know what is an effective technique but I
have liitle hope that Verant is gonna make dramatic improvements for us.

Sylly

> From: <kim@...>
>
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Sylly Songsynger wrote:
> > > From: <kim@...>
> > >
> > > The reason I find it nauseating is because a group with a L49
> > > bard can improve their performance by getting a L16 enchanter
> > > to buff them.