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Message ID: 18577
Date: Mon May 15 01:52:21 BST 2000
Author: Rosha Unca
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Race to 60 (OT)


No apology needed Kenross :) I was always of the opinion that this
game should be fun. I always, always tell my guildmembers if they
aren't having fun in the guild, they should move on. If their idea
of fun meant being able to do a plane or a dragon, then Legends was
not the guild for them since we could not muster the resources
required to do such an event. Yes, this places the guild into a
vicious cycle and makes it tough to ever get powerful enough to do
things as a guild, but I have always believed in a guild as a means
to an end. The end being more fun for each individual member. As
long as the guild provides the fun for a person on an individual
basis, great! However, if the guild is not satisfying an individual,
then it's great they can find a way to have fun with someone else.
One way of looking at it is to not think of it as losing a
guildmember, rather think of it as gaining an ambassador within
another guild. I have found the people who have left Legends on good
terms are still Legends at heart and usually continue to benefit
Legends in some way at some point.

Rosha Cristi, Bard
Guild Leader, Legends
Innoruuk

--- In eqbards@egroups.com, "Kenneth E. Bachman" <kbachman@e...>
wrote:
> Yeah, I have to agree. When you steal something, it's not like the
object being stolen has to make a specific choice and /storeremove
itself. My first guild on Innoruuk (The Talquinn) had this problem
for a few months. Every other high level who got to 50 left,
generally because we weren't big enough to do the dragons/planes
stuff. So we ended up merging with two and a half other guilds
(Crimson Sigil, Order of the Black Staff, and about half of Legends -
sorry, Rosha). I'd say that, in our ability to get stuff done, we're
in the top four now. We asked
> someone to remove himself from the guild last night, though,
because he was clearly courting the #1 guild. It is kind of annoying
to be a training ground for higher level guilds, particularly when
they do not show any courtesy or respect when dealing with you
normally.
>
> Kenross Cantoforjado, 49.45 songs, Innoruuk, Order of the Black
Staff
>
>
>
> Paul Kline wrote:
>
> > Hi Papa,
> >
> > Agreed. Its the individual choice if they want to switch
guilds. No one forces them to do a /guildremove! I was one of the
orginal members of a guild on Innoruuk called "Higher Arts of Arcane"
(sp) I left that guild in a heart beat when it came time to group
and "guild members" come first! though I played with the party more
than 3 weeks straight and got bumped because of guild rules! Now,
instead of bitching about the guild rules, I dropped the guild I was
in and joined all my friends guild. Immediately I got things that I
have been struggling to get.
> >
> > My point. YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PLAYER
STEALING. It is a choice. Yes, My x-guildmaster had a problem. It
was quickly solved after I took anonymous off and he was nearly 20
lvls below me.
> >
> > Paul
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Papa Legba
> > Ahhh we have gotten to another peev of mine...
>
> > Guilds stealing players.
> >
> > This term makes no sense to me. How do they steal a player?
DO they
> > sneak into your guildhall in the middle of night, creep into
DuckFoo's
> > room, hold a nocked Ashenwood bow to his head and tell him to
leave?
> >
> >