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Message ID: 18959
Date: Wed May 24 17:20:42 BST 2000
Author: Perhaps a Princess...
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Song Damage


Note: Forest giants CAN be mezzed. :) So I was entirely surprised when
the mountain giants couldn't (And I didn't realize until later that
was the problem. The message it gives you makes you think its a level
problem)

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 8:50 AM
>To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
>Subject: RE: [eqbards] Song Damage
>
>
>Maybe its just the groups I'm in. We have both an enchanter and a shaman
>I'd say 90% of the time.
>
>On a side note, thank Marr giants can't be mesmerized! They love having me
>group with them to fight Mountain giants since the enchanter can't
>mez I get
>to use my full arsenal in several different ways.
>
> Kitasi
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin L. Crawford [mailto:Lyrnia@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:51 AM
>To: eqbards@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [eqbards] Song Damage
>
>
>hehe you guys that analyze everything to death make my head spin :)
>
>At 40th I have the following songs memmed usually:
>
>1) Hymn (Face it, you always will)
>2) Celerity
>3) Clarity
>4) Fear
>5) Accelerando/Jig/Lament/Psalm of Warmth/Psalm of Cooling/(insert useful
>song here)
>6) Pixie Strike
>7) Charm/Bravura
>8) Chains/Largo's
>
>When soloing I change out 6 and 5 for either: Fufil's and Tuyens
>(targetted
>DoT's for kiting/charm kiting)
>or: CoD and DDD
>
>I'd say that I rarely use my level 1 to 10 songs except for Jig (which will
>always have its uses) Selo's and Hymn
>
>Other than that once you get the next haste song upgrade you dump your
>anthem (36th)
>
>Song makeup, for me anyway, depends highly upon the group I'm working with.
>If we have a shaman I mem my enchanter songs (pixie, charm, lullaby, fear,
>chains)
>
>If we're with an enchanter I go with my ranger set (chains, chant, Psalm,
>Heal)
>
>etc...
>
>I'd hardly say that I use my 1-10th songs more than my others. It just
>depends on the situation I'm in.
>
>Lyrnia Jongleur
>Bard of Norrath
><Travelers of Norrath>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kimes, Dean W." <dean_kimes@...>
>To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 10:26 AM
>Subject: RE: [eqbards] Song Damage
>
>
>> That's good to hear. I saw the damage figures and the potential double
>> resist and thought my lvl 30 song might turn out to be as unexciting as
>the
>> level 29 one I just got. It still seems peculiar that our level 2 song
>> outdamages it though. At what level will my songs start moving up the
>> scale? I noticed last night something that has been bugging me a bit for
>a
>> couple of weeks.
>>
>> Here I am 29th level and except for special situations I still
>pretty much
>> use mostly the same songs I did at 10th. I'm using Anthem (or Chant of
>> Battle depending on enchanter), Jig, Hymn, Accelerando, and Chords. Of
>the
>> other 3 slots only Largo's and Psalm of Warmth see extensive
>usage. Charm
>I
>> keep for mega taunting off our casters. So basically 5 of my 8 spell
>slots
>> are still 10th level or below. I tried using Denon's instead of Chords
>for
>> a while, but the double resists on Denon's definitely lower its
>performance
>> significantly. I found it to be resisted by whites and up 14.7%
>more than
>> Chords. That lowered its damage potential to below Chords.
>>
>> Even in all instrument I've found that in my combo of Largo's, Chords,
>Hymn,
>> and Denon's, its Chords and Hymn that have the most effect. Denon's gets
>> resisted too often, and Largo's isn't far behind. These
>experiences leave
>> me wondering how songs with 3 or 4 effects will ever stick. What sort of
>> resists are you higher levels seeing? Maybe I've just had a bad run of
>> randoms lately but from what I've seen, songs with more than one effect
>just
>> get resisted way too much. A grouping class ends up fighting
>mostly stuff
>> that cons above them which just magnifies the problem at least in my
>> experience the last month or two.
>>
>> Kitasi
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Reece, Tom CPT- 25IDL G4
>> [mailto:g4mntofcr@...]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 6:31 PM
>> To: eqbards@egroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Song Damage
>>
>>
>> I've found FCC to be pretty reliable against yellow and below mobs. The
>> double
>> resist rate problems you have with Lullaby don't appear to work the same
>way
>> with this song. In fact, I'm inclined to believe the mob only gets one
>> chance
>> to resist. And if it sticks, then it helps getting your other songs to
>> stick.
>> I've had this song memmed every since I got it.
>>
>> Galtin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 5:38 AM
>> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
>> Subject: [eqbards] Song Damage
>>
>>
>> So FCC never outdamages our level 2 song???
>>
>> With double the resist rate (due to two effects) and less damage is this
>> really worthwhile for the -MR?
>>
>> Kitasi
>> "an unseeable amount of xp from 29th"
>>
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